Do you revere Napoleon in your country?

>>213136540 (OP)
retard en par with Hitler

>>213136540 (OP)
Truly one of the main characters of history

>>213136540 (OP)
never trust shitalian

>>213136540 (OP)
The guy he sent as the governor-general of hr East Indies when he steamrolled the Dutch is one of if not the worse one, so probably not.

>>213136540 (OP)
greatest commander and ruler of the modern era

>>213136540 (OP)
Yes

No, the average person here probably thinks napoleon is a fancy way to say short.

>>213136540 (OP)
no because he was french

>>213136540 (OP)
Yes and no, had its props and cons.
It's always a love-hate sex relationship between Italy and France.

>>213136540 (OP)
Nah in fact I don't even know what his casus beli was or why the French loved and hated him so much.

>>213136540 (OP)
Yes, very much

Napoleon did nothing wrong. The only thing he was wrong was that he didn’t blow up Kremlin.

>>213136540 (OP)
He will never live down failing to conquer Acre.

>>213137116
It's funny and sad how were were told for centuries that he was a vile invader and literally proto-Hitler. And then you found out that he wasn't an aggressor in that war...

>>213136574
thats hitler though

yes i love reading about napoleon and napoleonic era, it's my historic hobby, along with classic greece

>>213137226
>Classic Greece and Macedon
>Hellenism
>Rome
>Medieval Italian republics
>French Revolution and Napolenic era

I think its kinda weird how lefties like him even tho he was le imperialist tyrant

>>213137202
Pavel I even was a good friend with Napoleon but Br*tish CIA murdered him because of this.

>>213137380
He dismantled the ancient regimes all over Europe

>>213137317
actually eastern romans are the true connective tissue between classic greece and revolutionary france

No. However brilliant he was, he was still an insecure megalomaniac sending ordinary people to their deaths to make himself feel bigger. Grow up.

>>213136540 (OP)
Never understood the hype

>>213137515
who isn't

>>213137702
I know, most of them are. That's why there's no reason to revere any of them. If you were alive in Revolutionary France, Napoleon would have no interest in you beyond using you to further his own agenda.

>>213137507
And… an imperialist is an imperialist

>>213137380
The justification is usually that he spread the "ideals of the french revolution" across the continent therefore furthering the progression of democracy/leftism in general

>>213138592
He was so brilliant even people disliking a dictator admit he deserved it

>>213137896
well yea he isn't a revolutionary, he reinstated slavery when it was banned
he had to continue the revolutionary project so his base wouldn't turn on him, he is a very astute politician, you got charisma, strategy, tactics and politics, missing a few points in progress is fine, it still puts him head above other leaders of his time

>>213136540 (OP)
Napoleon removed discrimination against the Jews, and for that I hate him.

>>213138779
>>213138637
Yeah reinstating slavery is one of his biggest criticisms from the left position

>>213138592
So what they also support the european union, an imperialism of the worse kind

>>213138927
He was an italian man. It was bound to happen

>>213136540 (OP)
I admire him. Revere is a big word.

>>213136540 (OP)
Ouais, il nous a vendu la Louisiane. Merci pour la terre :)

>>213140245
Louis XVI is le bad. Mort à l’ancien régime o algo
Napoleon is le good. Vive l’empereur. Let’s make his nephew emperor aussi o algo

Why are frogs like this?

>>213136540 (OP)
Unironically yes

>>213137380
That ship has sailed, at least here, no one defends him here anymore on the center or the left

>>213140483
>Ouais, il nous a vendu la Louisiane. Merci pour la terre :)
Il n'avait pas de choix je crois.. Les anglais l'auraient volé finalement

>>213136540 (OP)
Fun fact: napoleon is common name here.
But no one really knows anything about the real one.

>>213140483
The French Revolution had disastrous consequences for France

>>213140820
france had no food and no money in 1780s, it was as good as dead

>>213136540 (OP)
Definitely had aura, but he basically fucked up by losing to the brits.

>>213140788
>Fun fact: napoleon is common name here.
why, that's weird af

>>213140820
Est-ce une opinion des conservateurs d'habitude?

>>213140788
Ca ne fais rien. Mais vous pouvez l’avoir pour €3.50. Je vous inclurai les îles vierges américaines aussi

>>213140820
Robespierre had to have been on the spectrum. On the other hand, novels like Quatre-vingt treize was pretty kino

>>213140886
Seulement les royalistes

>>213141017
Ils sont quel pourcentage de la population?

>>213140820
Everyone talks about the revolution, but I really enjoyed the civil war against the Huguenots and the reign of Henri IV/Louis XIII

St Bartholomew was kino

>>213136540 (OP)
No bacause like every ruler of France he is natural enemy of Italy

Yes. I read about him every day. I watch documentaries about him.

>>213136540 (OP)
Yes, we revere Napoleon, we cite him in our national anthem. In our literature that we read in school called 'Lalka' (the Doll) there's a guy who believes in Napoleon's dynasty, that it returns to power in France. There are whole paragraphs about it; yet all of this reverence whilst being a Pole.

>>213141470
Napoleon was a god of war who made piss and shit themselves all the kings of Europe. It's hard to understand the impact he had on all Europeans
Manzoni wrote poetry for his death

>>213140839
idk
Why don't Frenchmen name their sons Napoléon?

>>213136540 (OP)
indifferent

>>213136540 (OP)
Napoleon is the reason froggies got -ACKed in Haiti so yeah

I read Zelenskyy recently passed a law weakening a department responsible for investigating corruption. How do Ukrainians feel about this?

>>213141470
He lost his empire trying to free you from Russia

>>213142850
hence the reverence for him

>>213142812
Most Ukrainians were unhappy but Ukraine has had 2 revolutions within the 21st century already and each one only made life worse. Zelenskyi was the reformist candidate promising crackdown on corruption and peace with Russia and you see how it ended.
t. Ukie

>>213142850
>He lost his empire trying to free you from Russia
If you're not trolling and I believe you do (that's silly of me, I know) you must know that Poland since the lose of its status as a state is irrelevant. Other counts (France, GB in WWII) don't fight for Poland but for their own gain, Poland is Napoleon-dominated Europe was a puppet state with French domination, even the constitution of Duchy of Warsaw was given to her by Napoleon.
Also, look at the name 'Duchy of Warsaw', not Poland but some Warsaw rump-state, that very much reminded of small mediaval Mazovian duchies. It was merely an ersatz and Poles for that very reason love Napoleon, because it was something and not a complete thrall to foreigns.

>Britishers are on the wrong side of history in this one
>but kino is so nice you still root for them