How wll Israel handle this conundrum?

Do orthodox people generally stay in those communities? They seem kinda oppressive

>>213163894
20% modernize over the years, The goal is to bring that number close to 50%, Haredi are right to say that mandatory service is a tool to secularize them under the disguise of national security, The military doesn't really need hordes of uncivilized people who don't want to be there, It's a pain in the ass to educate and organize them, But in other ways, demographically speaking, It's indeed a matter of national security.

>>213164773
What Pissraelis should do, is forcibly relocate pinguins who refuse military service to settlements on the border with Gaza or in Judea and Samaria, and deny them any protection from the police or IDF. That or you can put Merkavas on the streets of Mea Shearim or just treat them like Palestinians generally

>>213163841 (OP)
This chinkette is a propagandist for winnie the pooh's regime, most of the haredim will modernize in the next few years and there will most likely be a large exodus from ultra orthodoxy to regular orthodoxy / secularism
>>213166223
This

>>213163841 (OP)
>under 10 year old
>only role is to breed
Goddamn I've always absolutely hated israel but now I absolutely want to move there. I'd even consider snipping my tip off to get some jew cunny.

>>213164773
Do they have their own schools? The education system is usually enough to homogenize societies

>>213163841 (OP)
>they rarely bathe
what
are they jeets?

>>213164773
Why are you allowed to have an Ethno-Nationalist state and we aren't?

>>213166885
>Do they have their own schools?
Yes, the thing is that their school system persists until the greedy penguin subhuman turns 26, instead of 18. Oh, and all of it is financed by tax payer money
Did you also know that they have the lowest male unemployment in addition to money laundering billions of shekels annually, and this is all sanctioned by their local rabbis and chief rabbis.
The reason they want to keep themselves segregated from us is that they know that once their young get a taste of secularism (that's why they don't want them to work and go to the army) they will leave this cancer cult in massive numbers
>>213166929
Yes, they only bathe in mikves, and most of them don't go there every day. they don't use deodorant, just like jeets

>>213166973
You can do what ever you want iyc, no one is stopping you
perhaps if you don't vote labour / conservative and seek new political leadership you will see change

>Ultra-Orthodox Jews turn normal Jews into their goyimcattle that exist to serve and protect them while they NEET
based

>>213167044
>lowest male unemployment
lowest male employment*

THD

>>213163841 (OP)
They should import millions of African gentlemen to counteract this

>>213167077
Powerful jews start kvetching and call us Nazis doeverbit

Religion is ultra powerful for breeding innit.
We have one municipality that actually has a positive birth rate because there's a lot of lestadians living there. They're nepotistic but otherwise good citzens.
In 50 years we might have a civil war between "new" finns (brown) and lestadians.

>>213163841 (OP)
this is unironically one of the biggest and most spoken about problems in the country. the secular majority are fighting to get these people to conscript like everyone else, and generally force them to work/study. they are a big reason why Netanyahu was elected in the fist place. he just gathered every extremist demographic under his wing and promised to protect them. now the goverment is not doing shit against them. right now the orthodox parliament (Knesset) members quit because Netanyahu didn't make an official law allowing them to continue being leeches, so we have a minority government leading the country. the big hope here is that the leadership collapses as quickly as possible so we can have another election, and elect a normal party.

>>213168782
also, the "secular jews can't say anything about them because they are more jewish" part of the picture is bullshit. there are constant protests in the streets against these people. the only reason they aren't integrated in society yet is because of the government.

>>213163841 (OP)
>they rarely bathe
what a pile of bullshit is that, they are literally obliged to visit the mikveh before every religious ritual

>>213163841 (OP)
If Israel doesn't want my people, they can always go back to Poland. Yes, all 3 million

>>213163841 (OP)
Real Jews turn secular "jews" into goyim cattle while they laze about and fuck their wives through a hole in a bedsheet. Pottery!

>>213168835
What is going on with the Arabs who live in Israel? Especially since so many are radicalizing worldwide because of gaza?

>>213167077
>no one is stopping you

>>213169021
wdym what is going on?

>>213164773
>Even jews hate jews
Lmao

>>213169127
Noja. You might think that they are also becoming radicalized. But I haven't heard of any more attacks happening.
Maybe even less than usual.
Otherwise you hear relatively often about knife attacks etc.
Do Arabs identify themselves as Israelis and with the nation?

>>213163841 (OP)
>the other jews can't say anything
>because the haredi jews are more jewish than them
Is that what the CCP actually teaches their shills? lmao

>>213168239
this is the aspect i pay the most attention to
imo the reason israel is the only first world country with a stable birth rate is because they basically still have a religious influence, plus they have tax-funded haredi breeding farms
if this "secularization" process goes the way the israeli anons itt say it will, their birth rate will almost certainly suffer a major downturn, so it seems like a dilemma

>>213169261
Nope, even discounting the haredis we have an above replacement birth rate, it doesn't have much to do with religion as much as the need to grow in numbers.

>>213168239
>In 50 years we might have a civil war between "new" finns (brown) and lestadians.
This is going to happen globally. The ones who 'religiously' breed vs. non-breeders/imports. Holy Wars coming to you locally!

>>213167077
>no one is stopping you

>>213169216
I'm just reading the news and they arrested some arab asshole that tried to run over some people. not "palestinian" - arab Israeli. I'm not really in regular contact with a lot of arabs. they are largely regular members of society (even if they are by far the worst demographic - read some Israeli crime statistics), but some of them live in arab only cities, where I think they are more exposed to radicalization. the terror attacks in Israel consist of mostly illegal pali immigrant workers, and sometimes arab Israelis. you can definitely find smarter answers elsewhere (NOT ON 4CHAN FFS).

>>213169261
nope. secular population also brings a lot of children. it's mainly because we are not as miserable as the rest of the world. it's in the culture.

>>213166973
What ethnicity would that be, the Pakistani raj?

>>213169331
>>213169475
really? i thought the strong emphasis on procreation in your religion was a big factor. i still think this fertility issue is almost entirely a cultural thing.

>>213166973
Hey Nigel
I allow you to have an Ethno-Nationalist state
Regards,
Shahar Mazuchinsky
CEO of Jews

>>213163841 (OP)
Why don't you mind your own business, Finnish mongol bastard

>>213169602
It's a big factor, but there's also the factor of "being a small group of people with tens of millions of enemies".

>>213163841 (OP)
I have an old friend in nyc and she owns her house but over the years the neighborhood has changed and the neighbors have changed. Now it's a huge jewy place. One of those families moved in nextdoor and I saw the little jewlings pkaying outside. Besides the awful clothing and haircut they were normal children, for now at least. The mother crazy seclusive, the father weird, those people won't even look at outsiders in the eyes, besides the children, who aren't brainwashed yet. My friend had this to say "They're inbred, and they can't drive." Seems about right.

>>213169602
second dude you refrenced here. uhhhhhhh idunno entirely. jewish and especially Israeli culture is a little more complicated than "we got here on boats and killed everybody hon hon hon" like most of europe. the zionist movement's vision of the ideal Israeli was pretty much the values of Judaism encompassed in a secular society, I think.

CAPTCHA: AHA2A

>>213169646
also to reference your post, that sentiment is a pretty big building block of Judaism in general. think of egypt and David and Goliath.

>>213163841 (OP)
Compared to Europe where the native populations are going extinct while working and paying more and more taxes to provide for growing foreign and actively hostile Muslim populations this seems more like a minor problem.

>>213163841 (OP)
oh damn

>>213163841 (OP)
hopefully when we take away their gibs and force them to conscript they will make good on their threats and leave our country. it would unironically fix 80% of all of our internal issues.

>>213163841 (OP)
>there's a class of people whose primary purpose in society is to breed
>they're so good at it that 25% of children under ten were born to this class
Wow yeah terrible problem
Imagine having a population pyramid that's thicker at the bottom than at the top, so glad that's not us

>>213169021
Arabs worldwide are already radical by default, vast majority hate the Jews and Israel to the absolute max, a minority at most would say “bla bla bla we had Jews at our country once and they were so kind bla bla bla” but they never admit that they were treated as second class citizens at the time

>>213166973
Israel is like 20% arab israeli. If britain were 20% muslim, you wouldn't call it a british ethnostate, you'd call it white genocide.

>>213175150
>Israel is like 20% arab israeli
It was like 95% Arab 100 years ago lel and they're actively clearing out lebensraum for more lil schlomos

>>213175150
>If britain were 20% muslim
>If

>>213175150
>If britain were 20% muslim, you wouldn't call it a british ethnostate, you'd call it white genocide.
anon I...

>>213169261
You guys need to believe in christ more and BREED, HAVE SEX DAMNIT

>>213164773
Are they analogous to our amish and mennonite niggas or are they the jews of the jews

>>213176850
No they're not truly technophobes like the Amish.

>>213176933
Then whats the point of being ultraorthodox if youre not a total luddite
Lazy cunts

>>213175590
>>213176342
UK is 6,5% muslim. Israel is 18%

why do you care about jews and israel so much

>>213163841 (OP)
>don't work
>rarely bathe
Literally me.
>religious study
>breed
Not me.

Am I half Jew, /int/?

>>213169401
there's not place to find smartest answers than 4chan, admit it
plebbit? thread deleted by mods
twitter? only stans saying everything happens or nothing happens
news? is 50-50 saying one part is torturing the other group no exceptions
sometimes the best one can get is a half answer on imageboards

>>213164773

>>213177073
>why do you care about jews and israel so much
cuz we control ur money

I can say this because I'm jewish and if you respond to this message you are fucking racist

Kikes need to be slaughtered. I don't care anymore. You subverted my country for the past century and a half and I'm supposed to give a shit about you? Die. I hope they stab your babies and force you to watch. Kike.

>Kikes need to be slaughtered. I don't care anymore. You subverted my country for the past century and a half and I'm supposed to give a shit about you? Die. I hope they stab your babies and force you to watch. Kike.

>>213163841 (OP)
>male surplus
So they're going to keep the wars going then.
They also have the correct population distribution. You're supposed to have the least old people.

>>213179219
Wait until the FBI sees this. You fucking disgusting racist

>>213179549
Send your toilet Jeet faggot I don't give a shit anymore. Fuck you and anyone that shares your filthy blood

>>213179593
I hope you realize that your opinions match one to one to those of Hitler, one of the worst human beings that have ever existed in history. You really are a motherfucking racist piece of shit.

>>213179707
>he thinks this is going to insult him
Newfag bruh
Lurk moar

>>213169652
>those people won't even look at outsiders in the eyes
you're literally animal to them lmao

>>213179827
אתה הבן זונה הזה שקרא לי ניופאג פה?
>>213160042

>>213163841 (OP)
ain't all of them supposed to serve in the army?

>>213180711
אתה ניופאג
תפסיק להביך

>>213180797
The ultra-orthodox literally prefer dying than serving the army, they believe that if they study the Bible or some shit it will be more helpful. They have managed to get inside the government so even if there is a law that requires them to enlist the army, they don't give a fuck and won't go to jail.

>>213163841 (OP)
TKD

>>213181006
לפחות אני יותר צעיר ממך בומר, לא זרקתי את החיים שלי לפח בפאקינג 4צ'אן

>>213177030
I watched a video of a Hasidic rabbi reacting to the Amish lifestyle, and he said that while he admires their dedication to completely avoiding the evils of modern civilization, it's more intelligent to face the evils and choosing to say no to them, instead of trying to hide from them. Also some modern tools are too useful to avoid (obviously).

>>213181019
One of their main arguments is that they serve the nation's military by praying for them, so they don't need to be in the army.

>>213181119
cope

ACK
ANTI-SEMITISM O ALGO

>>213181334
That's right, but it's deeper than that. They are used as a political tool to keep Bibi and other Likud members in the government. It's pretty obvious that Bibi doesn't stop the war because he knows once that's over, he is fucked

>>213169620
he would never say this unless offered a chubby british woman

who cares

>>213164773
So they're basically cattle?
you say the state wants to keep them around even though they're kinda troublesome to deal with because they have way more kids than the average israeli couple due to their orthodox views or whatever, which is good to boost your defense forces

Is Israel going to become the 110?

>>213163841 (OP)
Kek
But aren’t they from Poland

>>213166973
Israel isn't mono ethnic at all though, it's literally a big blender smoothie of various ethnic groups which are only connected by being identified as "Jewish" but otherwise are quite different from each other. It's literally a Mega Mutt state.