The American existence is fucking miserable. If I want to get groceries I have to get in my car and drive to the store, then drive back home. When it's time to go to work I have to get in my car and drive to the office in rush hour traffic, and then when it's time to go home I have to sit in rush hour traffic again. Even if I want to go for a walk in the park I have to drive to the park, walk, then get back in my car and drive home. It's pointless.

When I was in college I did a semester abroad in Hungary and the difference in quality of life just from being able to walk around freely was the best part. I could step outside and walk aimlessly through the streets in any direction for hours. No destination, just walking for as long as I felt like it. You can hardly do that in America. The only reason to walk is to go from point A to point B, usually on a sidewalk directly next to 2-6 lanes of traffic. 99% of the time you're walking in a straight line where you can see for a quarter mile or more in front of you, and simply crossing the street can take upwards of 5 minutes depending on the level of traffic. Dozens of cars drive by and you have to stop yourself from thinking about how they all must think you're a freak because you're the only one on the sidewalk since no one goes for walks in the US. This place fucking sucks.

>>213175908 (OP)
I like having the option to do either, so Germany would be a good compromise for me. Inceldrives are one of my favorite activities, but I do want to incelwalk to the supermarket.

Don't recall asking

>>213175908 (OP)
Drive a sports car or an option out truck . I love getting stuck in traffic and cracking a 40 ounce and smoking a bowl while the ac blast and music at full volume.

quit crying dweeb

>>213175965
The worst part about driving in america are all the retards that camp the passing lane. Driving in europe is so much better

>>213176079
A nicotine lozenge while driving is fun too

>>213175908 (OP)
I would hate to live in America.

>>213176141
The worst part about driving in America is that somehow the concept of a walkable city has been turned into a culture war talking point with the right and left each taking their own stances and never conceding anything to the opposition because we're all brainwashed little goyim instructed to fight each other by our Israeli masters.

>>213176178
Def feels good after catching a buzz

>>213176273
Anyone who doesn't see the pure comfiness in being able to bike around a city like that doesn't have a soul. And I'm including all fat and disabled people in that statement. None of them have souls.

>>213175908 (OP)
There are entire areas of central Manchester closed off from cars, the only vehicle traffic there being trams, its really nice.

>>213175908 (OP)
There are entire areas of central manchester closed off to cars, the only vehicle traffic being trams, it's really nice.

>>213176567
Yeah because god for bid you speed past a rapefugee tryna car jack you

>>213176389
Unless we bring back segregation and put homeless people into concentration camps, no one is going to want a walkable city near them

>>213176627
Manchester has non-White people and its a pretty walkable and low-crime city.

>>213176390
You catching a prostate nut on my longass BWC

>>213176773
Lool stealing

>>213176627
My point is that it's a meaningless argument that shouldn't even be a part of the American culture war to begin with. It's not going to fix anything. All American infrastructure is built around cars and now there's no going back.
Pro-walkable city people can't accept that you would have to practically demolish the core of any American city to make it truly walkable, and anti-Walkable city people refuse to admit that the car centric landscape America has created has a negative impact on the human psyche and quality of living. It's the textbook American brain disease of treating whichever side of the argument you agree with as the de facto truth.
If you're an American and you wish to live in a walkable city, the best and only solution is to leave America and move to one of the thousands of European cities that have existed since before cars were invented. That's significantly easier than petitioning your local government to put in a single bike 400 foot long bike lane on one street downtown that will ultimately be used for parking.

>>213175908 (OP)
watabawt public transport?

>>213176986
>All American infrastructure is built around cars and now there's no going back.
Pro-walkable city people can't accept that you would have to practically demolish the core of any American city to make it truly walkable,
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time to plant a tree is now.

>>213176986
>All American infrastructure is built around cars and now there's no going back.
>Pro-walkable city people can't accept that you would have to practically demolish the core of any American city to make it truly walkable,
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time to plant a tree is now.

>>213176986
Just buy a e scooter

>>213176273
as someone who hasn't biked once in his adult life, are these bike lanes not huge breeding grounds for accidents? they seem very narrow and I imagine more lawless than regular roads. I am shit scared of trying to bike on these.

>>213176986
Most americans live in a major city where everything you need is 10 minutes walking . This tired trope just fat fucks complaining they get tired after 2 minutes of walking>>213176986

>>213177184
Except what was once a lush meadow 20 years ago is now a parking lot paved over with 3 feet of cement and tar. You could try to dig through all of that just to plant a single tree, or you could walk a mile away to where the land is still meadow and plant as many trees as you want over there.

>>213177326
>didn't read the post award
Walking on your designated pedestriancuck sidewalk as cars fly past you is not the same as pedestrian only streets opening up into parks or streets where pedestrians outnumber cars.

>>213177279
I guess if you don't have nafris going 50kmh+ on electric bikes (not the pedal assist ones) and scooter it's doable. I'm pretty sure dutchoids have these subhumans though

>>213175908 (OP)
You forgot the part where you get shot for jaywalking

>>213177446
we have those in Israel. fucking awful. the only thing worse than e bikes are e scooters.

>>213177228
>just get hid by a retard on his phone and get turned into ground beef

>>213177520
really in general bikes outside of sports kinda suck. we should just stick to trains and walking.

>>213177405
>sorry you live in fucking dump of a city .
My city
My city gets an arbor award every year. My suggeston fuck off and get a better job loser.

>>213177722
>arbor award
wtf is that?

>>213177538
Driving a High speed e scooter has the same application as driving a grom . You already dont know how to drive or hold class M you deserve to be mcdouble. You lazy fucks are pathetic

>>213176273
man that's fucking nice, which country and city is this video from?

>>213177745
Means its tree city with parks n shit .

>WHY isn't my medium population american city EXACTLY the same as a european major city downtown core

Same. People on 4chan act like “walkable cities” is a meme but they would actually be a huge improvement in our quality of life.
The problem is American zoning laws literally won’t allow walkability, it’s a huge infringement on property rights.

> Pro-walkable city people can't accept that you would have to practically demolish the core of any American city to make it truly walkable

That’s the dumbest thing I ever read. Making our cities walkable means doing the opposite. Just build over the parking lots, it’s super easy.

American cities were built normally then people in the 60s literally demolished the city to make room for cars. Now we’re in a massive housing shortage.

>>213177898
I think the majority of the resentment on this website comes from losers who never go outside anyways and therefor don't care how the world outside their bedroom is designed.

>>213177898
I live 5 minutes from a train staion groceries (4 of them) clothing stores , trolley , and the mall . How much closer can it be?

>hey bro! let's go take a drive to my cottage, it'll be fun to hang out with the bros, it's about a 3 hour drive.
>oh, you don't drive? oh that's too bad man, w-what was that? public transit? oh yeah idk if it goes out that far man haha
>yeah no problem bro, maybe we'll hit you up next summer, hopefully you've improved your living situation by then.

>>213177801
I think it's in the Netherlands
>>213177814
American misspelling strikes again

>>213177868
I, too, enjoy making massive logical fallacies.

>>213175965
I love incelcycling but the idea of incelcycling in the Netherlands scares me. If there are many other cyclists I'll be too cringe or something.

>>213177868
>t. knows nothing about American history
Literally every American city used to have its own rail line that connected the tiny villages on the outskirts to the downtown. Even the shitty village of 3k people I grew up in once had a rail line that ran through the town to metropolitan downtown that's 30 minutes away today by car. Then Mr. Goyberg and friends decided everyone needed to buy a new car every 10 years, ripped up all the rail lines and built highways and thruways instead.

>>213175908 (OP)
>When it's time to go to work I have to get in my car and drive to the office in rush hour traffic, and then when it's time to go home I have to sit in rush hour traffic again
It happens here too.

>>213175908 (OP)
>Even if I want to go for a walk in the park I have to drive to the park, walk, then get back in my car and drive home. It's pointless.
What's stopping you from walking to the park?

>>213178702
The 8 lane highway

>>213175908 (OP)
>If I want to get groceries I have to get in my car and drive to the store, then drive back home. When it's time to go to work I have to get in my car and drive to the office in rush hour traffic, and then when it's time to go home I have to sit in rush hour traffic again. Even if I want to go for a walk in the park I have to drive to the park, walk, then get back in my car and drive home. It's pointless.
same everywhere in Europe except in big cities
Stop your fucking whining and fantasizing. This is how everybody lives

>>213178632
Russia is a shithole though
>>213178819
If you're European and don't live in a city you're clearly a failure and will live and die a serf like all your ancestors before you

>>213178918
And still more walkable than your country.

>>213178951
True, America is a worse shithole than Russia

>>213178918
>If you're European and don't live in a city you're clearly a failure and will live and die a serf like all your ancestors before you
I live in the countryside with my family away from nafris and niggers in the quiet of my ancestral land tyvm but I'll pass

i am an software engineer and i picked my city based entirely on whether there seemed to be good opportunities to walk or ride my bicycle to a prospective work
it used to take 5 minutes but changed jobs so now it takes 12 minutes

i commuted for a while but it made me want to kill myself since it deducted a full hour of my free time

>"A-Actually I like living here!!" Mehmet Jean Phillipe Muhammad stammered, tears welling in his dark brown eyes.

Just ride a motorcycle

you must retvrn

>>213178998
Based, don't you have a little grocery store? Why go to the carrefour jew

>>213179200
umm this is bad or something because Mister Fordstein and Mister Chevyberg said so

>replying to your own post with "based"
yikes

>>213179331
No, there just isn't any money for it because if given the option people would rather drive. This was true decades ago, but these days I bet more people would be willing to take transit if it was available given how much cars cost now

>>213176141
don't you have a keep your lane rule?

>>213179319
too expensive, so I drive to town for groceries