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Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
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>Books on linguistics and language courses:
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>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
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>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold

previous thread: >>213376905

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu5-hR2x5QE
arguellesbros....

Whitepill me on european languages

>>213468862
They're easy to learn because they're basically reskins of each other.

>polypersonal marking

>>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever >need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
some of these torrents don't work
please help me, I want to learn Chinese
I don't know where to go

>>213469118
Exactly. Why learn them if you already know one? Asia, Brazil, South America are whole new worlds. Europe is the same in many respects, same content as Americans. People know San Francisco or West Virginia but nothing aboutUtrecht or Apulia. When it comes to emigration, Germany and the Scandinavian countries in Europe are probably the best. Spain or Portugal for a digital nomad.

>>213471508
>Brazil, South America
What languages do you think they speak there?

>>213471714
kek

>>213471714
Brazilian Portuguese and Latin American Spanish

>>213471714
Aztec or some shit? Don't they still record information by arranging thin pieces of paper in specific ways or something?

>>213470888
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese

>>213468458
Maybe shadowing from day 1 isn't such a good idea bros...

>>213468458
what a retard kek

>>213473318
Does shadowing even work? I thought it's a known phenomenon if you speak/sing along an audio with a slight delay, you'll just say nonsense. Even if it doesn't sound like it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_auditory_feedback#Effects_in_people_who_do_not_stutter
It's the principle of speech jammer. While not exactly shadowing, there's a lot of resemblance.

Imo it's the same when learning handwriting or drawing. You don't just trace the shapes. You copy them to the right of the model letter.
[a] a a a a
In language learning, you repeat what your language teacher says, and he will listen for mistakes.

You should compare the model audio to your shadowing. But that's more troublesome and probably can't be called shadowing any more.

is 7 years learning chinese to be just b1 bad? am I a failure?

challenge: translate this slop to tl

>>213475223
Has he always written like chris chan?

>>213475053
look on the bright side, you could've became a linguist

>>213475223
i usually dislike english and serious english prose makes me laugh and cringe, but this kind of english i can accept
he has a way with words and is naturally hilarious

>>213475053
ngl, yeah

>>213475223
西德尼·苏伟尼,一名已注册的共和党人,有四处最“色”的广告。是美鹰牌子的,他们卖的裤子真“洛阳纸贵”。西德尼加油!反过来说,捷豹颁布了个真傻,真极左的广告,太糟糕了吧!!!总经理受耻辱得辞职,公司乱成一锅粥。看到那个可耻的广告后谁要买捷豹呢。他们不如学巴德·莱特,皈依极左然后实际来说一阵儿内把公司毁灭了。市值摧残十足空前绝后,亏了几十亿美元!要不瞧瞧极左歌手泰勒·隋福特。自从我在“真实"上说我受不了她而觉醒了大世界她到底是什么样的人(憎恶!)。超级杯时,嘘声四起,被赶走了,变得不正!!!!思潮拐弯了——极左是吊们的主义,大家该从共和党。谢谢大家对这件事儿的关注!

>>213475053
It's not ideal but if it's your first language, a lot of your time got wasted trying to figure out how to learn.

This yt account gets my gold star of recommendation
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-0wSz-p4M32k0zH4llzp8A

>>213475053
7 years continuously?

>>213475223
Sydney Sweeney, eine angemeldete Republikanerin, hat den "heißten" Werbespot da draußen. Der ist für Amerikanischer Adler, und die Jeans sich gut verkaufen. Mach's weiter Syndey! Anderseits hat Jaguar eine blöde und wirklich wache Werbung gemacht, was sich als EINE TOTALE KATASTROPHE herausgestellt hat. Der Geschäftsführer ist vor kurzem beschämend zurückgetreten und jetzt befindet sich das Unternehmen in absolutem Chaos. Wer würde sich ein Jaguar nach dem Anschauen dieser Werbung kaufen wollen? Hätten sie eher eine Lehre aus dem Fall von Bud-Lite ziehen sollen? Bud-lite ist jedenfalls Woke gegangen und dadurch im Grunde sich selbst zerstört hat. Der Einbruch von deren Marktanteil ist noch nie dagewesen, mit MILLIARDEN VON DOLLAR NÄRRISCH VERPRASST. Oder wirf einfach einen Blick auf die wache Sängerin Taylor Swift. Nachdem ich beim Truth die Welt auf ihre Äußerungen aufmerksam gemacht habe, kann keiner sie mehr leiden (HASS!). Sie wurde aus dem Super Bowl ausgebuht und wurde NICHT MEHR HEIẞ. Das Blatt hat sich richtig gewendet--Wach zu sein ist für Versager, Republikanisch zu sein ist was man sein sollte. Vielen Dank für ihre Aufmerksamkeit diesbezüglich

>>213468458
Who was in the wrong here?

>>213480538
the french teacher for wildly misrepresenting arguelles' video

>>213475223
Sydney Sweeney, une républicaine enregistrée, a la pub la plus à la mode là-bas. C'est pour American Eagle et les jeans se vendent comme des petits pains. Vas-y, Sydney! De l'autre côté, Jaguar a fait une pub bête et sérieusement wokiste , c'est un désastre total. Le PDG vient de démissionner en disgrâce et l'entreprise est en plein tumulte. Qui veut acheter un Jaguar après avoir vu cette pub honteuse. Ne devront-ils pas avoir appris le leçon de Bud Light, qui est devenu wokiste et essentiellement détruit, dans une campagne breve, l'entreprise. La destruction de cap boursière était inouï, avec des milliards de dollars sottement perdus. Ou bien, regarde-moi tout simplement la chanceuse wokiste Taylor Swift. Dès que j'ai prévenu le monde à l'égard de ce qu'elle était en disant sur Truth que je la supporte pas (je la hais). Elle était huée de Super Bowl et elle est devenue dépassée. Le vent a sérieusement tourné - être woke est pour les vauriens, être républicain c'est ce que vous voulez être. Merci pour votre attention à ce sujet.

Some sentences are obviously translated way too literally.

>>213471508
learn Levantine Arabic

>practice spanish with one particular mexican woman at work
>She got upset when I practiced with someone else
>Won't practice with me anymore
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!

Someone post some text / paragraphs in Spanish and I am going to vocaroo it as practice. Need to know how I sound to other speakers.

What are some languages that rocks? Like, you can think "hell yeah" or "based" and you can hear the guitar riff or sick synthwave or house music in the background

>>213484714
Italiano. Speak Italian and you get a personality. French is too smooth. Not Thai at all or Vietnamese. French either :/
Russian sounds aggressive. German is like French, too smooth (my experience)

>>213484714
Hokkien
Buru
Igbo

>>213484804
Italian seems kind of soft to me and gives me a lot of speaking little action vibe. But romance cultures are very theatrical in general, imo. Maybe this is the secret of being cool. Spanish and Japanese are hit or miss: it's either hasa la vista baby gaucho and some samurai rock'n'roll or fat illegals and fat weebs

>>213485037
Spanish from Spain is also annoying with their “S”
Polish sounds so cool but extremely impossible to learn :(

there are some girls the building over looking at me while im in my room with a dim light on.

anyway, japanese is gay. i dont know what im thinking

falling in love with japanese hags
this will strengthen my conviction

Time spent on love could be spent on immersion instead

>>213485934
some of my best relationships with speakers of my TL have been with older women.

>>213484714
Any Celtic lang. Also Icelandic

>>213484714
German.

Can anyone understand this?
It's very different from Stantard German

"Vieles wat in Vörloup däi Tiiet vörkwümp ännert dat Liäben van däi Mensken. Sau is et auk mit däi Muttersprauche däi us lenket un biie us blif, in äine Oot van denken un wuu män mit dat Liäben ümmegäit."

>>213486356
Celtic languages are very 2006-ish. Also, the Celtic nations don't even want to use their languages
>>213486546
German doesn't sounds so cool irl. Or maybe it's the Germans that sound goofy, not the language itself, idk. Also, not są harsh, more like swallowing something all the time

>>213472190
Those were the incas thoughwever.

>Why are you learning [INSERT TARGET LANGUAGE HERE ] anon? Just to speak to women!? JAJAJAJAJAJAJA!

Good spanish sentence deck?
My mom started dating a spanish guy and he is terrible at both danish and english.

>>213486717
Just suck his dick. Blowjobs are the universal language.

>>213486738
I don't find him very attractive though.

Yes I am learning Ithkuil just to speak to women.

>>213486825
A dick's a dick.

>>213480538
Is he talking about Alexander Arguelles in the vid? A single laoshu50500 vid would kill this frenchman.

does anyone here use language apps like hellotalk?

>>213486717
Refold deck for vocab, Ultimate Spanish Conjugation (Lisardo's KOFI Method) for verbs

>>213486692
they're right and you know it

>>213487311
Thank you, I just got the KOFI one.
Any torrents for the refold ones?

>>213487689
Link is at the bottom of the OP: https://rentry.org/refold

>>213487761
Thank you and sorry for being a retarded newfag. I'll read the op next time before posting.

>>213487174
No idea, also would like to know if Italki is ok… hard to know and afraid of doing 100 trial lessons (probably have to pay for them as well)

>>213397865
>>213398376
Ok, am I retarded or these particles and grammar are just a weird case system?

I made the mistake of overthinking my language choice, rationalizing, and considering a dreamy vs. practical approach instead of following the flow. I started learning Portuguese / Spanish and Japanese earlier, and it was going well, but I had to ruin it by reading things like how book translations into Portuguese are worse than into French and Spanish, or that Japanese takes a lot of time, or that French is useless, that there is no anki deck for Portuguese, German doesn't sounds that good and Germans are obnoxious, Spain has high unemployment, Italy is flooded by immigrants etc. and now language learning is ruined for me.

Remember when duolingo was bearable and somewhat fun? not after 2019

I'm a few days into studying Mandarin. While listening to a spoken conversation, I noticed that word boundaries are pretty easy to distinguish in this language compared to other ones I've studied. I could at least pick out some of the very few words I know

>>213486931
>learn
>ithkuil

What modern indian languages are worth learning?

>>213487899
It's not weird, it's a pretty normal case system.

>>213480536
bit the bullet and looked up who sydney sweeney is. she has those sad eyes with half closed lids that people who have a lot of sad sex have, she looks deeply hurt, like billie eilish
why do people talk about this person

>>213487174
I used to use tandem, its pretty shit and every chat just turns into a woman trying to date you

>>213488216
>I got my world view from /int/, 4chan and the internet in general, and now I can't learn a language that doesn't conform to my warped vision of reality

>>213488375
I tried it in 2016, it was just as shit back then as it is now

>>213487864
depends on the language

>>213488216
>there is no anki deck for Portuguese
Sounds like a good reason to make one

>>213488216
learn Yoruba

ئۇرۇلدىم

>>213488216
You need therapy nigga

Learning languages is so fucking dull
>hurr durr just do endless flash cards for months until you can barely understand anything spoken at all

>>213492278
English

>>213488216
Have you tried increasing your testosterone? Maybe you'll be a little bit more resistant to suggestions then.

>>213486717
Why do you want to talk to the guy who's clapping your mom's cheeks?

>>213497286
you probably licked the floor for a full 16 months before you decided to stand up, and yet you couldn't run. what's up with that?

>>213497286
>he doesn't get a lil dopamine hit every time he understands his TL
ngmi

>>213497722
Well anon you didn't need to study for hours a day to walk

any other late age KHV language learners here? KHV as in kissless hugless virgin

bump

>>213498962
like 21? or 23?

I have once again given up on my life's ambitions and returned to languages.

I wish I were autistic enough to learn multiple languages

>>213500538
What were your life's ambitions?

>>213500879
Pursue a career in an interest that wasn't languages, one that'd make me money too.

Space, Computers, Mathematics, Chemistry, Economics, Politics; I can't be bothered with any of them in the same way I can be with Spanish.
God has cursed me.

>>213474672
I don't really understand shadowing. I can't hear the voice and speak at the same time

>>213501317
Learning languages in 2025 is like learning to be a carriage maker in 1930

>>213492278
I was curious about this for literary reasons and asked chatGPT, but there's a shitload of them

>>213501317
If you want to make money, learn to code and learn to use AI to code faster.
I'm similar to you though, its hard to keep making progress on all my goals. My fitness and language progress has been good this year, but my career related progress has been so bad it made me want to just be homeless for a while.

>>213500459
im 30 and the one who asked

>>213502139
I literally just can't be bothered. Even if there's no future in languages, I'm probably going to end up doing a degree in them.

I've learned to code in the past and it feels so fucking pointless.

>>213500818
i wish i were autistic enough to learn 1

>>213497286
what do you mean? you shouldn't do flashcards in isolation, you should be reading, listening, and speaking as much as possible

don't learn Russian

I won't

>>213503959
But I wanna talk to ukrainian and belarusian girls.

>>213503959
Cлишкoм пoзднo

>>213503959
is it not the best Slavic language to learn?

>>213502139
I have a bachelors in maths and whenever I mention learning to code my tech friends always moan about how with AI it is impossible to find an entry level job, so who do I trust?

>>213483551
least jealous latina

>>213504697
I'm a software dev, and it's grim out there. Luckily I have niche experience that might let me by one of the last CScels laid off. I definitely wouldn't recommend it to anyone new. I got in right before the rugpull.

>>213494354
>>213496612
>>213497385
Yeah, I'm extremely blackpilled about the future, including the future of most countries and cultures I like.
All cool societies are aging, experiencing economic stagnation, and losing cultural significance. Especially European ones. But I should stop whining for sure

>>213504618
Slavic languages with the most total speakers? Yes. If we only care about quantity and not quality, then yes. Otherwise, you know what the answer is.

>>213506599
If Europeans want to keep their cultures and traditions alive they should unironically beg people from the US and Canada to come back
Americans eat that shit up and will keep it going

>>213506764
Polish perhaps? that would be nice to use the same alphabet

>>213506764
Czech, the most developed and richest slavic country

>>213506973
Polish is a mess
Cyrillic is incredibly easy to learn
Learning how to pronounce the nonsensical way Polish is written is bullshit

>>213506950
I'm not talking about keeping traditions. These are cool but I'm talking about creating new things. Music, trends, subcultures, popular movies, technology.
>>213506764
>>213504618
It's still the best overall Slavic language to learn if you want to know one but don't know which one specific, yes, mostly due to its scale.
A good rule of thumb is that the closer one is culturally and geographically to the axis defined by 15th century Burgundy (so called Blue Banana now), the closer to the core of European culture, wealth, art etc. The further away from this core, the more scale matters
>>213507170
Polish is "a mess" in Cyrillic too. Also:
>tf
>complaining about the spelling of other languages

What languages have interesting return-on-investment? Obviously English. Japanese unlocks a gold mine of weebshit if you're into that. Korean media seems to be getting bigger. Chinese might help you get a job. But what else?

>>213507412
Nothing new is being made anywhere
And when AI takes over nothing new will be made ever again as AI learns from AI in a recursive sludge

>>213507593
This scenario assumes that people spend time and interact with each other only on the Internet. AI wouldn't have invented the Parkour for example

>>213507699
When was the last time you interacted with people IRL?

>>213508003
Today, yesterday, basically everyday

Which path do I follow for japanese?

lang wiki
>https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/Japanese#User_tips

this reddit link
>https://morg.systems/Japanese-Primer

this other reddit link
>https://www.tofugu.com/learn-japanese/

this other reddit link
>https://learnjapanese.moe/

this other reddit link
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/19FEIOJWbLhJQ-AmepxFBMC2ebhJJr9RBUMfMeatYuq8/edit?tab=t.0

the google doc one looks good to me. so does the morg systems one.

any anons can vouch for one of these?

>>213508367
>already in japan
>don't know japanese
silly gaijin
try each of them out a little and go with whichever feels the most natural and beneficial

>>213506599
salvē, virō tristī polonicō; paucōs verbōs tibi habeō. surgē, et ī tange primum solum graminosum quod vidēs. num ars dīscēndae linguae tam difficilis? adiectīva animae sordidae tibi discere debeō. hodīe, verba nova culinae scrībō. atque, vexillum tuum lycopersicī rubrī et lac album vidēntur. discipulus improbus nōn est pecuniōsus in itinēre suō quia numquam incipit. valē. monē: uterque phantasmōrum et ā iordaniā et ā russiā nōn sunt vera.

>>213507455
French and German are too powerful for reading literature

Among the Germanic languages, apart from English, the best are German and Swedish or Norwegian because they have a pitch accent.
Who is the goat among the Romance languages? French and Italian are historically the most influencial I think but Spanish and Portuguese are bigger and have younger population

>>213507593
>Nothing new is being made anywhere
so true
All my favorite movies and music even in my TL is from 15-25 years ago

>>213510022
Romanian is the most powerful.

>>213510264

>>213510307
Danish gets an unfair power boost because of it's bromance with Swedish

>>213504515
fool

>>213510264
They speak Russian between each other.
>>213510307
>>213510577
Danish doesn't has pitch accent and is impossible to learn

>>213511050
*Danish doesn't have a pitch accent

I'm curious which culture has a bright and creative future
>>213510257
This is true and I'm even talking about phenomena like flash mobs or ice bucket challenge or parkour - we don't even have stupid things like that anymore. But Japan and the USA stand out a bit from the rest of the world I think. Maybe some subcultures in Brazil and LatAm have some dynamics

Czech keeps calling to me like the green goblin mask.
God I love the Czech Republic.

>>213508367
Whatever MattvJapan sells you.

>>213512673
what's so good about it?

>>213508367
I learned kana with tofugu + kana learning game in like two days. So start with tofugu maybe

>>213486717
You need to straighten your mom out, thats not ok
And also why do you want to learn a lang because of your moms boyfirend, thats some cuck shit

>>213513927
better than pooland

>>213507455
Well if you have any interest in business, government, or translation, the size of a market is not as important as whether it is expanding and whether such demand for speakers is being met. With Spanish for example, there is so many bilingual people that it’s a much less specialized thing to learn.

Relative to Japanese, interest in Korean seems to be expanding IMO. Plus Korean businesses are investing more and more overseas, including into America. So Korean may actually be a better investment for work than Japanese if you’re just trying to get an amount that gets you taken seriously in a meeting/job interview. If there’s 1000 jobs for self taught japanese speakers but 1200 applicants its not a better field than the 100 jobs for Korean speakers with 80 applicants.

Also in terms of diplomacy and military, the US government has much more involvement in Korea and Korean learning resources made by FSI and DLI are more abundant for a reason.

>>213510307
Would it be reasonable to take from this then that if one was aiming for polylingualism in either Germanic or Romance that Danish or Romanian would actually be the most powerful gateway in terms of comprehension?

I think what’s cool about the guys that actually manage to do that is the idea that you only really need rigorous study for the first one and can sort of just CI much of the others due to high starting comprehension, so i’m fascinated by the idea of it. It’s why Interlingua fascinates me as a tool for aiding polyliteracy in particular.

>>213514603
Isn't Portuguese a surprisingly very profitable language in the US?
>>213507455
In Poland it's German, then French, then maybe some niche languages like Czech, Spanish, Italian, Swedish etc. Maybe Chinese somewhere in between.

>>213510022
Spanish is powerful. I think it's a really neat language, too. One of the most widely spoken languages. When I lived in the US I really got along well with Mexican-Americans. But damn, I wish (most of) LATAM wasn't so fucking dangerous for tourists.

It would be an S-tier language to learn if it wasn't for the crime in LATAM. Still A-tier, imo.

>>213514811
>Isn't Portuguese a surprisingly very profitable language in the US?
there are plenty of brazilians in america, but i've never heard of anyone in america who learned portuguese for their job/business, except for 1 guy I know who was learning some because he works at an agricultural company that has offices in brazil and america.

>>213512673
Commit to it, it's fun

>>213515485
>>213515490
LATAM means that Sp/Po are S tier on paper but in actuality kind of shitty because the nations that speak the language are shit for both travel and business.

If every country had El Salvador style criminal justice for the past 50 years, LATAM would probably have ended up much more developed. As it is, learning Spanish in the USA is basically relevant if you want to work with mostly poor immigrants like being a court translator for illegal immigrants with DUIs or whatever, or you work in international agriculture.

>>213515485
Rioplatense is my favorite unfortunately, and most of the LatAm hates them. Speaking of rioplatense dialect, Uruguay seems safe and calm. Chile too, I think.
In Poland and in Europe Spanish is similar strong to Italian
>>213515490
I mean, there is no really competitor to the English language for sure but Brazil is huge, have tons of things, mostly agriculture related, sure, but there is no so many of them in the US compared to Spanish speakers
>>213515842
What about French. Cajun is a thing? Or maybe for some prestige jobs? I heard some celebrities and trust fund kids learn it

>>213487174
I used HT for Chinese and got more messages than I could handle.

>>213516006
>What about French. Cajun is a thing? Or maybe for some prestige jobs? I heard some celebrities and trust fund kids learn it

It’s a prestige thing. Cajun is highly divergent, the speakers are rare, and they can all speak English. Louisiana French is soul. Lots of us do French in high school. I did. Not that many can actually speak it. It’s prestige has declined somewhat over time though as French itself has become less important for international business and diplomacy.

>>213515842
kek, your comment is making me pity the people I know who sent their american kids to bilingual school to have them learn spanish.
>>213516006
Outside of agriculture-related business IDK what people what people would learn it for, just thinking of strictly practical purposes. And yes I don't think many people know PT in the states that I know of, other than Brazilians.

>>213504697
Try data science. A lot of those jobs specifically ask for people from a maths or science background.

>>213516241
Data science is getting replaced by AI.

>>213516161
>kek, your comment is making me pity the people I know who sent their american kids to bilingual school to have them learn spanish.
A great example of this is that, strictly speaking, the only Spanish that is really useful on a job site for example is rudimentary enough in terms of grammar that a lot of White guys just pick up some Spanish working construction anyways to communicate with Latino laborers underneath them. All the actual paperwork and stuff that you would need formal ability for and an education is in English anyways. Where I live in California we literally say “I speak job-site Spanish.” Beyond that, the Mexicans/Central Americans aren’t going to respect you more for having some halting Iberian Spanish you learned in some prep school.

>>213516260
At a high level, data science requires creativity which AI currently lacks. That's why those Kaggle competitions can bring in so much money and prestige.

Yeah, I can't choose between French and Spanish too.
I'm sort of fluent in German now so I'm starting to learn Alemannish soon and I also want to learn a Romance language because it'll be easy, though actually useless, and I can put "language learning" in my job application's hobby list (holy shit, krauts are real fucking creeps, imagine asking to list your hobbies in a fucking job application, literal soulless biodrones).
French has by far better literature and is at least somewhat useful career-wise (I'm not sure whether such Swiss-maxxing won't look suspicious to my first employer in Germany though, I mean you see both French and fucking Alemannish in the language list in the application and you just know this dude isn't going to stay in your fucking Mecklenburg-Vorpommern), but I'm unironically concerned that a lot of n-words speak it (yes exactly just like in that roach's meme) who I'm pretty sure contaminate any French-speaking Internet space with themselves being ugly retarded gorillas.
Spanish on the other hand is much less useful, but it's a more authentic Romance language and it's spoken not by n-words but by a cute race of Yakut-Arab hapas. It seems I'd like to visit Latin America but a lot of evidence and reviews claim it's actually a full blown shithole so I'm not sure whether it worths it. Still, at least the people with whom I'll interact in it online will be cool hapas and not n-words.

>>213517332
I'd take Spanish because you bring up good reasons, most French speakers are black and/or muslim.

>>213517332
caring about those people is cringe. just find nice white french or spanish speaking people to talk to and you're set. there could be a primitive alien race speaking english on another planet and it wouldn't bother me one bit.

>>213517332
>I'm sort of fluent in German now
Geez, already? I'm constantly changing languages and I've learned fucking nothing
How long did it take you?

>>213517332
Swiss-maxxing is a great idea. Why the fuck didn’t I think of that? The workers in my field are the highest paid in the world there.

>>213493606
bin ganz bei dir. Es wundert mich auch warum Leute hier so von ihr besessen sind. Sie ist auch nicht wahnsinnig talentiert. Wäre halbwegs nachvollziehbar wenn sie irgendeine begabte Sängerin wäre, aber so weit ich weiß ist sie nur eine durchschnittliche Schauspielerin

>>213487174
the only language learning apps I use are 4channel, anki, and twitter

How do I learn Rusyn?

>Oh, I can read books and understand TV and bla bla bla
>Try to play Blasphemous in native
Just fuck my shit up, I have no idea what these people are talking about. I have a whole inventory of shit I can't read. I heard that the game has "spanish music" and the like, but I'm not hearing very much of it that's decisively spanish - maybe spanish instrumentals but they don't tell you if you're listening to a folk melody or something while you're playing so why did people say that it's a good game to show you spanish music? It just sounds like typical dark souls music.
Video not related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H3QwNrk_WU

>>213475053
That's b1 on speaking
r-right?

>>213487174
These all are dating apps, not language learning apps.
>>213518759
It's not really that great though, because you need either French for the humanities-related stuff or German (both standard and the dialect) for everything else. More people speak Italian than French (both in single digits) in the big German Swiss cities, and the lingua franca is English and not French.
>>213518115
>I'm constantly changing languages and I've learned fucking nothing
Yeah I've had the same problem of bothering with meta-lingusitic babble instead of just sitting down and actually learning a language. Most likely you just have ADHD, consult a doctor unironically.
Then, try starting a routine: change your phone and PC's interface language to German, lower your Anki limit to 10-15 new cards to be sure it isn't overwhelming, choose a single day to put everything aside and concentrate on reading your textbooks. Also reduce the use of English, including posting on the imageboards (unironically хyйлo helped me a lot with that because I can't post here anymore without wasting half an hour to deliver each post).
>How long did it take you?
A year of low-effort study plus half a year of high-effort study.
>>213518065
>a primitive alien race speaking english on another planet
India is on this planet though.

>>213517332
>French
You don't want to go to france ever in your life and it will never be a good country
>Spanish
Spain is one of the best travel destinations in Europe, and it's affordable too. You have the entirety of South America to pick from basically, if one country is becoming communist again you can just pick one that isn't.
Plus You Get Access to the Spanish + Italian power combo. This is IMMEDIATE sex from any woman, you don't even have to tell them, they just know.

>>213519116
>>213519116
>don't want to go to france ever in your life
Yes I don't, but I want to go to CH.
>Italian
I just don't like it. It's as unappealing for me as Romanian for some reason, I'd better learn shit like Catalan than Italian, that ghastly frankenstein golem.
>IMMEDIATE sex from any woman
Unironically a good reason to pick Spanish. I can imagine myself grooming a Latinx girl but not a n-word or mudslime one.

I pity you poor souls who can't decide what language to learn for whatever reason.
I'm doing it for fun and I'm chilling every day.

Did хyйлo let me post here or am I delusional?
>>213518759
For you to think:
>On the labour market, Swiss German is the most frequently used language (61% of employed persons), followed by German (standard language) (35%), French (28%), then English (23%), and Italian (8%).
French is barely more important than English there so unless you work in a specific Geneva-centered sector, you don't really need it.

>>213482173
>French flag
>Learning french as TL
????????

>>213519474
bait

>>213507455
any country with a big economy and few good english speakers will help you get a job in a minor way. you still need the skills for the actual job so it doesn't really matter otherwise.

for media, it depends on what you care about. there are only several real places that have serious media: anglo countries, japan, italy, france. et cetera.

T B H if you have to think about picking a foreign language like this, you're ruminating and will likely do nothing.

You know, I feel like I'm gonna pick Spanish in the end. Spain is indeed a better country than France, South America is a huge pro unlike the Maghreb and the Congo, peninsular Castilian sounds way more exotic than French, it has twice the number of speakers, and I seemingly won't really need any French in Switzerland (even Basel is entirely German-speaking) even though the idea of full Swiss-maxxing looks appealing. Of course I'm not starting anything new until my German is actually ideal anyway, but am I wrong in anything?

>>213519494
du unterschätzt den hundesmiserabelen Zustand unseres Bildungssystems. Er trollt ja wahrscheinlich aber Ich würde viele Geld drauf legen, dass nur ein Drittel Amerikaner Russland und Frankreich richtigerweise auf eine Weltkarte identifizieren könnte. Die meisten Amerikaner sind was Erdkunde angeht erstaunlich unwissend.

>>213520071
No, in the end, you're not.
I wouldn't start something completely new, but you could start trickling in like 10 minutes of anki a day to get a base so you don't have to learn what apple, bread, ect. are.
People learn French for the France of a hundred years ago, it's a dead language from a dead country and now you have Ebonic French Creole.

>>213520149
>something completely new
I've decided to pick a Romance language exactly because those aren't new for me at all, I know English (which is 1/3 French and 1/3 Latin) and I've had enough exposure to Latin proper so I recognize a lot of words straight ahead. I just didn't know whether I really need one and now I've gotten a reason: I want to put "language learning" as a hobby in my job application and fluent French or Spanish in addition to fluent Russian, English, German, and Alemannic would be just enough to honestly claim it.
Thank you regardless, I'll check the thread tomorrow on whether anybody has a different opinion on that French vs. Spanish thing.

In Germany Russian has become the most useful foreign language after English. Lots of Russians and Ukrainians everywhere who barely speak English and German

what theFUCK did you assholes do to him?

>>213480538
the french faggot obviously. they pretend like they can't understand anything that isn't their french. they do this to everyone, and not just france french. Quebecois pretend they can't understand acadiens or Franco-ontarians as well.

>>213507455
if you have a foreign family, learning their language means they love you more.

>t. learning italian for nonna

>>213520453
what would your top five be?

Before your comment I'd have guessed English, French, Polish, Turkish, Arabic, but i guess most French, Polish, and Turkish actually aren't that useful since those demos speak German.

>>213520744
1. russian
2/3. French/Polish depending on border
4. Arabic
5. Chinese

>>213520765
interesting. Most of the Turks speak german at this point at a native level I assume? If Ukraine ends up losing or just has to settle for a less than ideal peace as rump state, I wonder how many Ukrainians will just leave and go west. Figure a lot.

Idk feel like that would be less terrible than 2015 at least.

>>213520343
Ilya learning Spanish?

Yes I promised to not come back until tomorrow, but ShitGPT claims I'd absolutely need fr*nch in Switzerland as a doctor even though more people even in fucking Bern and Basel speak Italian than fr*nch. With every second invested I become more and more reviled by this language. Virtually all people who learn it and aren't n-words are spoiled whores like my sister or the latest хyйлo's daughter, too.
I'm almost ready to ditch fr*nch into the trash bin it rightfully belongs to, but I'm afraid of my chances in Switzerland with only two Germans and English.
>>213520966
I was actually already starting to learn it right after Latin and before I dropped it for German. The EHG schizo etc. have even made some memes about me wanting to immigrate to Southern Europe from those times.
>>213520765
>>213520817
I hope the hohols will keep arriving there so I can do that volunteering thing for the citizenship shortcut by speaking Russian to desperate hoholinas instead of cleaning boomers' diapers or something.

Why does there need to be sooooo many verb conjugations? Oh Spanish, I wish I could stab you right in the face. I should have picked one of the slant-eye languages. I hear they don't have any conjugations.

>>213522584
why is English the only language that avoided conjugation/declension slop?

>>213522584
Just stick the conjugation tables in an Anki deck and move on. It's literally that easy, you just have to do the unexciting work of active recall.

>>213522584
They're really regular, except for ir and ser. Everything else follows a pattern. Half the language is just mastering these tenses.
Also, language acquisition is slow. You don't immediately internalize the grammar you read about even if you do memorize it. As you listen to hundreds of hours of Spanish this stuff will definitely stick.

>>213522736
Proto-Indo-European: a highly inflected language with inflections for case, number, person, mood, and gender, with agreement between nound and adjectives. There used to be singular, dual, and plural (for three or more things).
The inflections just got whittled down in all its descendants, particularly in English. The Romance and Germanic languages mostly lost their case systems except for German. Germanic languages have a lot less verb inflection as well.

>>213522736
>why is English the only language that avoided conjugation/declension slop?
it's not, there are languages with much less inflection than even English.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_language#List_of_analytic_languages

>>213522584
Spanish grammar is difficult, but everything else about it is 'as easy as it gets' for an English native. Literally just 5 vowel sounds. Very simple and logical pronunciation. Almost the exact same alphabet we use in English. Hot Latinas to keep you motivated. Vocabulary shares many words with English. Sentence structure is pretty close to English.

You could reach fluency in Spanish multiple times before you could even order at a restaurant in Japanese.

>>213522736
English is just too based. It's the only S+ tier language to learn.

>>213520570
That's crazy. Hopefully I never have a problem with LWT. The Refold guys push LUTE too.

>>213520588
I've noticed this. Quebecois say when they go to France nobody understands them. But it's the attitude that gets me. Why are they so cunty about it? In the anglosphere, if you are a fresh-off-the-boat cab driver from Khazakstan that only knows 3 English words, we will do our best to communicate with you. You go to Paris and you don't sound like an absolutely perfect Parisian French speaker, they will treat you like a retard.

how do I get a Polish polyglot gf?

>>213520570
Is LUTE just free LingQ?

>>213468458
This is great, I fucking hate this guy and I'm filled with anger and contempt for him
I have zero respect for language teachers

>>213521584
From my experience, most French speakers in Switzerland speak more than just French.

>>213517332
>>213520071
Να μάθε ελληνικά

>>213468458
Doesn't he learn with the intent of reading in the lang, with speaking as an after thought?
I think his french is fine. Could be better. That would be fixed rather easily if he wanted to do it.
But who wants to be around or talk to the french?

>>213524216
It’s just another case of French speakers being massive faggots to the point of crashing out over someone who lives in America and for whom French is like his 5th language for “sounding weird.” Newsflash pal, his English sounds weird too, he’s just kind of autistic and has spent 12 hours a day talking to himself in his office for the past 40 years.

>oooh zees ypearpoeleeglote wis le nahteef lehvehl korehan duz nut speak mah langage lik moi?! Sacre Bleu!
>yoo silly amehrihcaihn, mah anglais est… how yoo seh… le parfait!

>>213523030
Because the federalist revolt lost during the french revolutionary period and the french revolution effectively replaced a highly autonomous regionalist government with like 50 independent parliaments with one unitary Parisian nationalist radical state.

>>213523045
1. Learn Polish.
2. Move to or study in Poland.
3. Participate in language exchange programs. Like cute Polish girls who wants to improve their Hindi.
4. Take language classes in Poland.

>>213520113
>nur ein Drittel Amerikaner Russland und Frankreich richtigerweise auf eine Weltkarte identifizieren könnte
Ist das wahr? Ich habe immer gedacht, dass das nur ein Gerücht war, das aufgrund youtube aufgetaucht ist.

εχει εδώ κάποιο που μάθαινει ελληνικα;

>>213468458
>I asked my assistant to reply to your comment
>his "assistant" is chatgpt
Did this guy really?

>>213468458
Never do shadowing before reaching the upper intermediate level.

>>213520570
Why people still buy lingq when there are tones od alternatives, are those alternatives shitty?

>>213520149
>people learn French for the France of a hundred years ago
40 years ago. And it's true about most of the languages and countries
Also France is still safer than most of the biggest American cities, not to mention LatAm ones. We still have very little immigrants but there is more problems with Latinos than with Muslims (except Pakistanis), of which there are twice as many
>>213520588
Bullshit. I've never met

I've never met a rude Frenchman who did not understand or pretended not to understand English.

Am i too old to sart learning a new language at the withered and decrepit age of 24?

>>213527660
yes

>>213527660
your brain is no longer made of plastic
it's over for you

>>213527200
When I went to rural Framce I was kicked out of the boulangerie for mispronouncing "croissant". Then the locals beat me up in the street.
>>213527660
Yes, as soon as you pass 23 years old and 364 days, your brain solidifies and it becomes impossible.

>>213527660
You can learn anything whenever until you're like 75

>>213527660
Yes

>>213527660
I started learning languages at 24

>>213527660
No, but the older you are, the harder some aspects will get and the lower your ceiling. At 24 you can still learn a language to a high level, but it's unlikely to be native like.

>>213528198
Anyone can learn to a native level unless you're hella old

>>213527769
Why are frenchoids like this
>>213528246
Like 30 years old

>>213527769
Deserved desu

>>213520570
why is this guy so incredibly retarded?
>beware, other versions might be malicious or otherwise modified
>that's why i'm taking mine offline
nobody's forcing you to update it you absolute retard, it's not like hosting on sourceforge is a huge bother to you either wtf

>>213522949
>except for german
and icelandic and faroese, the rest are retorts hehe

>>213488216
Have you tried taking ADHD meds?
>>213517332
>but by a cute race of Yakut-Arab hapas
>so called latinas
>cute
Stop watching porn.
>>213518967
>Try to play Blasphemous in native
Even a native would have some trouble. That's not today's Spanish, you know that?
>but I'm not hearing very much of it that's decisively spanish - maybe spanish instrumentals
I don't think you should expect lyrics in Spanish, it's a game about religion, if anything there'll be some lyrics in Latin rather than Spanish. Anyway I gave the first game's OST a listen and could feel the influence, here's some similar music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k-4TWoOc2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-_UkZ5IbwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTcW9X7D3u8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIuYWiSfWyo

>>213529595
>>213519113
I don't believe in adhd.

>>213528754
>hurr durr muh age
If you care enough you can do it

>>213528246
Proof?

>>213523045
be a chad

>>213530395
Every single one of my coworkers

>>213523045
Same way you get any kind of gf: be an attractive normalfag with enough money to finance her lifestyle. A polyglot gf is probably going to want to travel the world and go to polyglot gatherings and dumb shit like that.

>>213530752
I don't think Jorge and Isabella started learning English at 24.

>>213468458
physiognomy is real
people with that look are always assholes

1. English,
2. French or German,
3. Japanese,
4. Maybe, maybe easier version of French or German like Italian, Dutch, Spanish, Swedish
That's all. Now I have to decide between German and French. French offers more prestige, but German is more practical in Poland and I'll have more opportunities to use the language.

>>213531832
Γιατι ελληνικα δεν είναι εκεί

>>213526132
lmfao he even kept in the part where the LLM reply addresses him in 2nd person
either he's taking the piss and is a comedic genius, or he's incredibly full of himself and giga retarded, both is hilarious

>>213531832
Consider this: Norwegian (Nynorsk), Icelandic, Greenlandic

>>213531925
>>213532461
Both are cool but I prefer ancient Greek and Bokmal because it's free reading in Danish. And no new languages until I learn French or German
and by the way, what charmed you about Greek, Swedish anon?

>>213532697
Bokmal is cringe

I felt uncomfortable watching this. these smug attractive French women are clearly mocking their listeners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40IAXVvjSDA

>>213532697
Μου αρέσει πως αυτή η γλώσσα ακούγεται

>>213517332
>>213533128
>

>>213533468
>Easy French channel is all white people
there's still hope...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THeLVhU53ow
>everyone dream everyone fought
>its actually "everyone trip everyone fall"
Is english sing also hard to listen for EFL? I wonder

>>213533709
This is what they think of you

>>213533856
why are they like this? other Europeans seem more chill with people learning their language, or are they?

>>213533468
It's probably the same with English and Indians, Africans, African American etc. and nobody gives a shit about it

>>213533856
I don't get why French people are so mad about foreigners not speaking their language like natives. They have very thick accents when they speak English or other languages themselves.

>>213534052
He's right though. I have this experience with people learning German when I was learning German.

>>213534052
The more popular the language the less
nice the native speakers are towards learners
Spanishers and French are the least nice, Germans, Dutch and Scandis are indifferent, may switch to English, which may offend some
Anyone else will be enthralled that you're learning their language and ask you to fuck their sisters

>>213534052
>>213534076
They think French is like English, and that everyone everywhere learns it from childhood. But it's a cope, because native English speakers don't behave like frogs. So something is clearly wrong with them.

>>213534208
Spanish speaking people love foreigners learning their language

I’m still far from being a great speaker and I have a notable accent, never had any French person being rude to me because of that.

>>213534315
Idk Spanishers make me feel uneasy
One time at the airport I saw some Iberian Airlines crew that were walking past me and they looked at me like I was subhuman

>>213534129
i contribute to communities of german learners and while there are many normal people making good efforts, it does seem like german is one of those languages that attracts the lowest of the low, which is also true for french
many people who reach out to me i learn to loathe within 20 minutes. i've considered doing it only for money going forward, even though i hate paid tutoring. i see it more as a wehraboo and general retard tax

>>213534326
hon hon hon
le stupide

>>213534422
It probably was nothing and you're just overthinking it

>>213519113
>India is on this planet though.
and yet I'm still not bothered and neither should you be. but really, india? you could have picked an african country or papua new guinea

>>213527660
tu et ego eōsdem annōs habemus. nōn est fīnis.

>>213526132
pathetic

>>213470888
checked trip8's.
do not follow >>213472890 it is the worst way to learn chinese.

>>213536126
Γιατι μάθαινεις λατινικά; ξέρεις και άλλες γλώσσες;

>>213477169
>西德尼·苏伟尼
you have poor chinese knowledge. that is a direct translation of her name, but not what she is known as or called by chinese people. Sydney Sweeney is 悉尼妹. trumps tweet or truth or whatever is not an official statement or release so would not be formal and would use 悉尼妹 to talk about her.

unapologetic coomer bait lel

>>213537644
let me guess, it's not "brassière" ?

>>213528198
Is that really true though, Joseph Conrad learned english when he was around 21 and he mogged the hell out of most native english speakers; but then again not everyone is Conrad LOL. Also, the fact that he had to integrate into English society probably played a major part in his acquisition of the language.

>>213538016
>>213528198
>harder some aspects get
>unlikely
Nvm I didn't read your post well enough lol, but the example might inspire someone anyway

>>213537644
They know what they're doing. Most of the female teachers are also qt pies.

>>213537644
One of many reasons i prefer male teachers

>>213534076
This is a good point. Personally, to me, when most of the speakers of your language are african... it's time to stop being so smug all the damn time.

>>213538280
the other you being gay?

>>213538685
Im not gay
Its just that whenever the teacher is a woman its just about herself and her channel
When is a male, its about the subject
There are exceptions if course but this is my experience

I wish the anatolian languages survived.

>>213538780
straightest scandimale

>>213539043
Which ones specially,
There were and are tons of them, many of which arent even related
Technically Anatolian languages do exist today depending on how you define it

Turkish
Armenian
Pontic Greek
Cappadocian Greek
Laz

>>213539143
Just dont like taking instructions from women, thats a nono for me

>>213539185
>Which ones specially
The Anatolian branch of IE.

>>213539427
Shiet tough luck then I guess
Although Hitite is pretty well attested so theres probably material if you want to learn it, if you're into dead languages

what's your favorite extinct language? (latin is not extinct so shut up)

>>213508367
I learned hiragana and katakana by following along with these videos, practicing writing each character, and making mnemonics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p9Il_j0zjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6DKRgtVLGA

Then I signed up to the free JapanesePod101 beginner course and did it for a few months before my free trial ran out. I tried learning how to write each kanji I learned but eventually realized it was a waste of time and stopped. Then I started doing the Anki Core 2k/6k deck. I would also randomly watch the videos by Japanese Ammo with Misa or Kaname Naito whenever I'm bored a have a few minutes to get grammar points in my head.

Here's a useful guide worth skimming through.
https://djtguide.neocities.org/guide

As everyone else always says, Tae Kim's grammar guide is also worth skimming through.
https://www.guidetojapanese.org/grammar_guide.pdf

I started to feel like I was making the most progress when I started watching CardCaptor Sakura with Japanese subs and made my own Anki deck for sentence mining. I think this was around a year after I started studying Japanese and I could only understand like 20% of what was being said but enjoyed it. I recommend trying to mine 2-5 cards per episode on average so you expand your vocabulary but aren't constantly pausing. The only money I spent was on the first volume of the Pokemon manga which I occasionally read. I then started sentence mining a short free kusoge called Oniguisama and mined like 30 words from it. This was like 1.5 - 2 years ago and I'm now mining てにおはfeat真美. after the guy below recommended playing nukige for immersion.

https://archive.is/y4jyO

Overall, the learning methods that I felt like helped me the most were the Anki core 2k/6k and then immersion + sentence mining to make my own deck.

>>213539749
Etruscan
Minoan -we dont know much about it, hopefully Linear A will be decoded some day
Göktürk - very kino alfabet
Gaulish
Tocharian

Which of these series would have the easiest dialogue to understand?
https://pastebin.com/NkU4QdNR

>>213539867
I forgot to mention, the first few anime I sentence mined were CardCaptor Sakura, Isekai Ojisan, and some of Yowamushi Pedal. I also watched a lot of Hololive though I didn't sentence mine much since it was live.

>>213540354
Probably Love Live, Date a Live, Dress up Darling. Anime that take place in school are generally easier.

You can check the difficulty here.

https://jpdb.io/

>>213540566
>https://jpdb.io/
>My long-term goal anime to watch is ranked 4th hardest
Guess it'll be even longer-term than anticipated

>>213540566
>https://jpdb.io/
TY

>>213540730
Any political sci fi will be extremely difficult. I tried watching the first Gundam movie with jp subs and only understood like 15%. At least now I know the super important phrase キミの生まれの不幸を呪うがいい

>upgraded my phone
>I have now auto translated subs on XHS
> :D
>Duolingo Max is not available in my cunt
> :(

>>213516045
is there a translate option for them?
>>213489861
>word boundaries
explain plz
>>213537762
it's "soutif", das right Timmy, you'll never learn that in a textbook so enjoy this nugget of wisdom

if only english were spoken by at least 50% of the world

>>213536126
nos eosdem annos nati sumus
non finitur/non finitum est

>>213538016
You literally can’t mog native speakers. Stop being mentally ill.

>>213541616
>y-y-y-y-you c-can't just mog native speakers! it's not possible!
Watch me, cunt.

>>213540986
One of the first german subbed animes I ever watched was Gundam Wing since I loved it as a kid. Wasn't actually that bad.

>>213537158
nesciō linguam graeciam ergo vertiō sed historiam amō. imperium romanum amō. linguam hispanicam intellegō sed loquī et scribō male. linguam anglicam sciō

>>213536126
>>213541613
Ut plane appareat quid dicam, hoc non est necessarie correctio neque, ut opinor, perperam dixisti: immo, praebeo formas dicendi paulo usitatiores

>>213537205
how tf am I meant to know that nigga you think I'm reading stuff about Sydney Sweeney regularly, let alone in Chinese?

>>213539749
sumerian
Hurrian
Elamite

>>213541736
Yeah the difference is that I do it effortlessly and every word I speak is inherently “natural” usage, while you forever play a game of imitation.

You can whip out some archaic vocabulary or make midwit grammar corrections over typos, but a lotta English speakers can do that too. The thing is that when someone corrects “me and John” to “John and I” they don’t come off as intelligent, they come off as pretentious and affected, because everyone already knows “John and I” is the “correct” phrasing, it just sounds stupid.

I'd like to learn Spanish, but it's completely useless here, and I wouldn't have anyone to speak with.

>>213543375
Αν και εδώ σχεδόν δεν είναι άνθρωποι που μιλάει ελληνικα στιν πολη που μενω , μαθενω τις γλώσσα

>>213543375
Every language except English and German, maaaybe French, is useless here. There are some niche jobs with Dutch or Japanese or Danish or Czech but these are niches. So you'll probably find a job with Spanish, too, if that's what you want. And it's a fairly popular language, especially among women, and in big cities, there are some small Spanish-speaking minorities I think

I learned English by playing Runescape as a kid
What game should I waste my adulthood on to learn languages like French

>>213533856
French people are awful. French learners are awful.
I only learnt it so I can make fun of the French better.

Polish flag is the new Jordie?

>>213544028
>Every language except English and German
In terms of jobs, yeah, but I haven't met a single German in Poland who couldn't speak English. Unless you live near the German border, there's no opportunity to speak German here.
>maaaybe French,
There aren't any French speakers in Poland. There might be some in the big cities, but they probably speak English or Polish.
>it's a fairly popular language, especially among women
A good reason not to learn it...

>>213544489
learn Faroese

>utilitarian views on language
NGMI. If you're so utilitarian might as well learn the language of the neighboring country.

>>213544270
Stardew Valley

>>213544694
>>utilitarian views on language
soulless

>>213544694
What's the point of learning a language if I can't speak with people irl?
>Inb4 to consooom content
I've got more than enough content in English.

>>213542619
lel