Why does shithole ------> religion?
Was Marx right?

>>213507900 (OP)
Low IQ population -----> religion + shithole

>Russia

>>213507940
>US more religious than Mexico

Europeans were kangs when they still believed in God
Now they're getting beheaded in the streets by people who aren't even strong enough to come to European countries without having their whole trip and stay there supported by various organizations

Religion is a cancer.
There's nothing good about religion except beautiful traditional architecture.

>>213507900 (OP)
we rich now

Well, imagine of shit Marxism is that nobody wanna live in North Korea, Venezuela or Cuba while many persons would live in Turkey, USA or Argentina.

If religion is the opium of people, Marxism is the HIV of people.

>>213508103
based.
even those Christian and Muslim traditional architectures are basically the combination of what pre-Christian greeks and romans had established.
the baseline of Chinese architecture had existed long before Buddhism and Taoism too.

>>213508256
>many persons would live in Turkey, USA or Argentina
>Turkey

>>213508256
>If religion is the opium of people, Marxism is the HIV of people.
Kek

>>213508256
>North Korea, Venezuela or Cuba

None of these are socialist.

> North Korean

Although they indeed have a planned economy and nationalized means of production, this is eclipsed by the fact that the economic planning is done, not by the north korean working class & masses, but by a parasitic caste of bureaucrats that is both opposed to the working class and to capitalism.

> Cuba

Same as North Korea. However, contrary to NK, they've in recent years started to introduce market-oriented reforms. This seems to be the historical conclusion of stalinist regime, i.e. the restorarion of commodity production.

> Venezuela

Unlike NK a& Cuba, Chavez never nationalized the industry, bank and land, nor did his regime abolished commodity production.

Venezuela is a state capitalism through & through. Its incompetence emanates from the fact that those who manage the economy are politicians & bureaucrats, that have managed to displace the bourgeoisie.

>>213508674
lmao
abrazos, no balazos

>>213508256
Religion is the opium that the poor use to endure life. That's why rich people don't give a damn about religion unless it's useful.

It's funny that despite being an atheist state the majority of Chinese people still hold supernatural beliefs.

>>213508256
Haiti is pretty capitalistic

Go live there, argie monkey

>>213507900 (OP)
Religion is associated with poverty but lack of religion long term leads to anomie which then leads those societies to be conquered by foreign religion
The association between wealth and secularism only existed due to a series of contingent circumstances in the early modern period where nationalism and secularism aligned

>>213508819
That must be why the Middle Ages fell. They lacked religion.

>>213507900 (OP)
That's not very believable.
South Korea and Japan are obsessed with superstitions and jinxes than any other country in the world.
There are quite a few idiots in South Korea and Japan who are obsessed with cults that aren't visible on the surface.
And that's different from religious dogma.

Religion is the only thing that keeps people from devolving into hedonistic animals. We’re living in the most faithless age in history and everything is soulless and empty that’s why so many people ack themselves despite living like kings.

>>213508738


For socialism to exist, these prerequisites need to be established:

1) The means of production need to be nationalized
2) Commodity production needs to be abolished in favour of a planned centralized economy
3) This economic planing needs to be carried out by the direct producers (aka workers) themselves


Reactionaries & conservatives only seem consider the first 2 as the important ones, while obviating the third.

However, between capitalist society & a socialist society, there' are intermediate forms. Stalinist regimes (in this I include Cuba, NK) were intermediate societies that couldn't develop to full fledged socialism due the isolation & economic backwardness contained in their pre-revolutionary societies


In all actuality and given the historical precedence, socialism would actually require a global revolution, one single country on its own would inevitable lead to inconclusive intermediate forms

>>213507900 (OP)
You're comparing it to how things are now. But back then even developed countries were way more religious. It was the conflict with changing lifestyles that made most people let go of those beliefs.

>>213508853
You're being sarcastic, but the backwardness of the middle ages had deeper roots than just religiosity
Arguably in a sense the people of the middle ages were less ideological, less genuinely religious than modern peoples since their religiosity was not actively chosen. It was simply something you were born into
modern nation states requires grander and more zealous ideology, public religion, in order to maintain uniformity amd cohesion

>>213507900 (OP)
Huh, Uzbekistan is that atheistic?