Oh my Fukuyama! Is that… individually wrapped cheese product slices, precooked bacon in a plastic tray, and shelf stable pancake syrup with artificial butter flavor??
Yes! YES! This is what I defected for! Such innovation! Just what the motherland was missing!
I can't wait to SLAM this hungryman into the microwave and wash it down with a gallon of diet mr.pibb!!
https://countercurrents.org/2020/06/how-we-sold-soviet-union-and-czechoslovakia-for-plastic-shopping-bags/
>We were told, and we repeated: everything in the Soviet Union or Czechoslovakia was bad. Everything in the West was great. Yes, it was like some fundamentalist religion or mass-madness. Hardly anyone was immune. Actually, we were infected, we were sick, turned into idiots.
>We were using public, socialist facilities, from libraries to theatres, subsidized cafes, to glorify West and smear our own nations. This is how we were indoctrinated, by Western radio and television stations, and by publications smuggled into the countries.
>In those days, plastic shopping bags from the West became the status symbols! You know, those bags that you get in some cheap supermarkets or department stores.
>When I think about it at a distance of several decades, I can hardly believe it: young educated boys and girls, proudly walking down the streets, exhibiting cheap plastic shopping bags, for which they paid a serious amount of money. Because they came from the West. Because they were symbolizing consumerism! Because we were told that consumerism is good.
>We were told that we should desire freedom. Western-style freedom.
>We were instructed to “fight for freedom.”
>In many ways, we were much freer than the West. I realized it when I first arrived in New York and saw how badly educated were local kids of my age, how shallow was their knowledge of the world. How little culture there was, in regular mid-sized North American cities.
>We wanted, we demanded designer jeans. We were longing for Western music labels in the center of our LPs. It was not about the essence or the message. It was form over substance.
>Our food was tastier, ecologically produced. But we wanted colorful Western packaging. We demanded chemicals.
Generally speaking, there cant exist scarcity in a capitalist economy.
Capitalist are compeled to produce for the market. If they dont produce, they go out of business. Each individual capital squeezes every worker like a lemon in order to produce as much as possible.
Herein precisely lies the issue with capitalism.
It produces without considering the limitation of the market. The market doesnt grow at the same rhytm of capitalist production.
This situation eventually leads to the capitalists' being unable to realize the surplus value (profits) and then the crisis unleashes. Millons are put out of work, machinery and industries are liquidated, etc, until the capitalist cycle regenerates and start again.
>>213554972Commies trying not to blame America for their retarded shortcomings
>>213554972Czech Republic is actually the country that got the most advantages from the collapse of the Eastern bloc. I can see how a Bulgarian or an Ukrainian miss those times but Czech Republic is wealthy and has good quality of life nowadays.
>Blyat!
>Ice cream AND fresh onions????
>Time to obliterate communism!
>>213555094>If they dont produce, they go out of businessIf you don't produce in communism you get sent to a labor camp or shot
>>213555564>If you don't produce in communism you get sent to a labor camp or shotStalinism does not equal socialism.
Stalinist apparatus was indeed repressive, but it acted as a repressive apparatus inspite its "socialist" characteristics (planned economy, nationalized means of production) not because of them.
Production under a socialist non-stalinist economy (i.e. worker's councils) would be planned in fully democratic manner so there would be no need for repression.
>>213555541>>213555669They had ice cream and onions in the USSR.
Ice cream in particular is disgusting cheap slop anyone can churn out.
>>213554245 (OP)>>213554972>>213555541I'm not in favor of the Soviet system, but their cargo cult worship of the West makes me feel contempt for them. You were really impressed by that spiritually empty, vapid, and shallow consumerism? Americanism is just as much a grotesque virus plaguing the planet as Marxism-Leninism was if not more so. Communism inundated them from the worst most corrosive aspects of liberalism.
>>213555743It was the final one-two punch of fresh peppers and watermelons next to vacuum packed fresh mushrooms.
>>213555874>but their cargo cult worship of the West makes me feel contempt for themIt was more about the fact that the average American gas station manager had a better material standard of living than most lower level Communist Party functionaries by that period in time despite the USSR being more or less equivalent to the USA in terms of natural resources and arable land.
I do wonder if westoid vegan-nutrionist-natue worshiper-whatever new age bullshit would enjoy living in a commie utopia. It's basically what they want.
>>213555910Better hand over all the old state assets to criminal Zionist Jews then. I'm sure that will spring forth a society of prosperity and virtue!
>>213555927>>It's not socialist unless it results in the utopian standards I personally demand that conform to my beliefsIt's not utopian. Worker councils actually achieved power in Russia in 1917. Meaning, worker's democracy has existed as a historical regime & also as an inconclusive or failed one (Paris commune).
Stalinist deformation came about due to the failure of western nations to carry out their own proletariat revolution. The Soviet workers' state got entangled in geopolitical struggles against capitalist empires. Under these conditions, the proletaria revolution ossified & the bureaucratic caste (nomenklatura) elevated itself above society.
>>213555890Just realised that Tucker Carlson did this same political stunt not a while ago in Moscow.
>>213556031russians paid him to replicate it
>>213556031Tucker is a rich silver spoon baby so he of course didn't realize that the quarter deposit to rent a cart is something that every lower caste American is very familiar with shopping at Aldi.
>>213556031I think his point was that even a shithole like Russia is civil enough to not allow their drugged up homeless to sleep in the subway center and hide them away at the outskirts of their city like any decent society would do.
And to be totally frank, I wouldn't exactly be stupid enough to do the verbal equivalent of spitting on Putin's face like what euros and dumbass mutts were hoping for, that's how you get thrown in a Russian jail cell. Yes, even Tucker Carlson. Not sure if you guys have seen Russian prison before, but from what I can tell, it isn't exactly peaches and cream
>>213555969>Better hand over all the old state assets to criminal Zionist Jews thenThat already happened around the time of the Kennedy administration, when he was killed for asking too many questions about the Israeli Dimona nuclear facility.
>>213555989The most pure and most effective expressions of Marxist ideology that have ever existed was the Catalonian Revolution, and that wasn't extinguished by Franco, it was brutally suppressed by Russian Soviet interests.
>>213556236>The most pure and most effective expressions of Marxist ideology that have ever existed was the Catalonian Revolution, and that wasn't extinguished by Franco, it was brutally suppressed by Russian Soviet interests.So you're just proving my point (?), that stalinist regime was against the workers and their interest.
The Stalinist regime needed a planned economy in order to sustain itself and expand, just like Napoleon needed the bourgeoisie economy in order to establish its rule. In both cases, both were expressions of a counter-revolution, both wanted & indeed supressed the masses and stop the their revolution from reaching its deepest conclusions.
>>213556364>that stalinist regime was against the workers and their interest.Who says? Stalin would certainly disagree with you, so would the Spanish Communist Party circa late 1935.
>>213555625>R-REAL socialism has never been tried!are we really still doing this
>>213554972>>Our food was tastier, ecologically producedFamously ecologically mindful communists
>>213556853I don't even want to get started with the sovlful food cope
>>213556183I only watched half of the interview but I liked how Putin seemed to be messing with Tucker and wasting his time. Tucker tried to guide him into giving reasonable justifications for the war but Putin just went ahead and gave a lecture about how Ukraine was a fake country that shouldn't exist.
>>213554245 (OP)If that impressed him imagine how shit were things before
>>213554972>Our food was tastier, ecologically producedbullshit, commie times are the reason people don't trust ground meat to this day
can't stand nostalgiafagging boomers, it's all about their youth and nothing else
>>213554245 (OP)this guy was an American plant who the CIA rigged the '96 election for.
>>213555541Yes? You do understand groceries and basic goods were in regular shortages? Standing in breadlines for hours only to find out there is nothing but vinnegar left on shelves is not fun, you dumb tanktard fuck. Gulag yourself.
>>213554245 (OP)Someone turn him into a wojak
>>213555969>Better hand over all the old state assets to criminal Zionist Jews thenTons of jews were in high positions communist party, so your nazbol retard takes or whatever this thread is make 0 sense.
>>213554245 (OP)Why don't you defect to Russia? Free yourself from the curse of abundance!
>>213555094>>213555625>>213555989>>213556364Good job trying mexibro I wonder if it ever gets through to anyone
>your country is failing
>suddenly an extremely successful or powerful foreign force came, making you feel utterly inferior by comparison
This happened many times, like how Japanese failure to withstand the black ships led to their Meiji era where they replaced their own culture with western one, like how the failure and corruption of late Qing dynasty led to Mao's cultural purge, like how Germany become NatSoc because of Weimar's failure and then destroy everything related to that period after they lose the war.
>>213554245 (OP)A rather dysphemistic way to describe it.
Of course it will sound trivialized, but for the Søyviets whose peak cuisine was mayo salad with peas and potatoes it would look impressive.
>>213554972>In many ways, we were much freer than the WestHoly mother of Jesus.
You can just see how this crap was written for some college kids in the US would think "damn, that's just SOOO true", because no one older than 18 would fall for this shit
Czechoslovakia and the DDR were the "best places" in the Soviet bloc and still people would risk getting shot in the back or being imprisoned to flee from there. Imagine being born in some Soviet shithole like Moldova or in the Baltics, I'd like to hear their opinion
>>213558886>or in the BalticsThe Baltics were considered the best and the freest republics of the Soviet Union. Try Tajikistan or Armenia.
Shut the fuck up westoid, american cheese is a wonder of modernity and I will not have you badmouth the best slop a machine as spewed out in the history of the world.
>>213555874>You were really impressed by that spiritually empty, vapid, and shallow consumerism? Americanism is just as much a grotesque virus plaguing When your stomach is empty and your lifde expectancy is 59yo you give absolutely zero fucks about how shallow and vapid consumerism is, my friend. You never had to experience this and neither did I luckily, so we have the luxury of philosophizing about this, while the average Piotr in 1984 was in an endless queue from 8am to get some bread and a can of boiled carrots for dinner.
>>213554972It really do be like this
My mom tells me how she would think that we were backwards troglodytes because our coca cola came in glass bottles instead of plastic lined aluminium cans
Now the glass bottle is a prestigious status symbol and aluminium is for poor subhumans
>>213558984That's literally not true in any way, food was cheapest it has ever been in communist times, especially things like meat and milk
You just didn't have goyslop like Doritos or whatever
>>213556999>but I liked how Putin seemed to be messing with Tucker and wasting his timeThat would be because he's a nigger, but white, i.e. Russian
