what do Germans think about their cultural shift to the west and cultural impoverishment it entailed? was getting aligned with the west the greatest tragedy that happened to Germany after 1945?

western alignment would've been possible without the ethnic cleansing of 1/3 of our territory too
it undeniably was a huge loss, yes
not an AfD supporter btw
and most people nowadays don't care

>>213597269
so you'd rather be seen as an eastern European nation just to have 1/3 territory more, even though this territory was dominated by feudal-like relations between the aristocracy and peasants until 1945 and created little to no economic or intellectual value, being just a black hole the rest of Germany had to pump money into to keep afloat?

getting buck broken by the russians probably was. they have partially themselves to blame for that, but yeah >>213597269 ethnic cleansing is not ok. poles also got moved to the west by the benevolence of stalin, but at least they got prussia out of it

>>213597360
not what I said
but you don't want to hear my opinion, you just want me to say the expulsion and loss of territory was a good thing, which it wasn't.

>>213597179 (OP)
Deutsch and dutch must disappear.
GERMANIA DELENDA EST.

>>213597179 (OP)
>he says this in English

>>213597360
Germany would not be seen as an eastern european nation retard.

The border of the german language area is what defines the border of eastern europe. Eastern europe is to the east of it, central/western europe to the west

>>213597768
it has been 400 years, piss off grandpa

I hereby repeat poles are spiritually for all intents anti-white turdie shitskins with turdie mentality seething and moaning about their colonizers and some imagined genocide like indians with britain, nafris with the french, etc.

Down to the unreasonable sense of self importance, petty pronvicialism, revanchism, victimism and self reference

>>213597410
>you just want me to say the expulsion and loss of territory was a good thing,
it's up to you to determine whether becoming an undoubtedly "western" nation is a good thing or not
>>213597844
>translated from German by Grok
>>213598250
except we are discussing a German post

>>213597894
what defines eastern Europe is the economic and social situation of this area and eastern Germany was peak eastern European in this sense, because it had literal feudalism, serfdom, agrarian economy, lack of intellectual output and the little industrial production it had was solely thanks to coal deposits accidentally found there, not by the virtue of eastern Germans' own capabilities and skills. If Germany east of the Oder was a country on its own, it would be no different from at least Hungary, if not Poland or simply Russia in essence. Even if it had slightly better economic indicators, it would be still just like a difference between east Germany and the USSR - difference in numbers, but not in the system or mentality.

>>213597360
oh so you mean exactly like the former GDR?

>>213598507
it was much more pronounced in the Ostgebiete, actually the former GDR was quite industrialized and not that agrarian (no shit, it had the capital of Germany inside)
meanwhile especially East Prussia was literally a medieval-tier country in terms of social and economic relations, even around WW2 they had serfdom-like institutions

>>213597768
Based

>>213598613
Silesia which was a heavly industrialised urban region made up around half of the population in former east Germany

>>213597360
If we kicked out every region that needs to have money pumped into it we'd have nothing left but both Silesias, Greater Poland and Warsaw itself.

>>213598654
>Silesia which was a heavly industrialised urban region
that's what I said about coal deposits, if they hadn't been found, it would be as agrarian as everything else because no industry was born in this land solely due to its inhabitants' inner innovativeness and skills, it was just using natural resources, Saudi Arabia-tier development

>>213598250
Okay but enough about Russians, we're discussing Germany here

>>213598250
Why would anyone be pro-white? Whitoids are the biggest group of sociopathic subhumans on the planet, you can make a list of 50 greatest genocides in world's history and 90% of them would be perpetrated by whites

>>213597179 (OP)
your average latinx on VPN spam wouldn't be complete without posting a retarded ww2 thread ofc

>>213598250
you are literally argensimian lmao
go make a thread whining about the falklands brownie

>>213597179 (OP)
>aligned with the west
bruh the Russians did the ethnic cleansings

>>213599236
Argenchangos are brown turdies and i see the exact same behaviour in pooples.
You even live on welfare from your colonizers like african negroes while whining about them
In a very brazilian/argensimian fashion you also self reference when people refers something about europe (they are talking about germany italy and france king not about your slavic second hand soviet dump)

Such is the turdie mentality

>>213599559
the difference is that whites built Argentina while whites destroyed Poland
we are not the same

>>213597179 (OP)
Ossis will hate to admit it but they are more similar to Poles and Czechs than they are to west Germans in everything but language

>>213598301
>except we are discussing a German post
All coments in that post are pooles seething about dem evil german racists pushing glorious turdie poland down and stealing your gold and kangs n shieeet

Super thirdie ways
Haitians were right you are white negroes

>>213599586
Truth nuke. White people get zero sympathy from me, but if youre an argentsimian with a slave mentality you cant help but worship your white masters

>>213599638
>erm germany isnt evil despite the fact that they killed dozens of millions of people because of their sociopathic whitoid tendencies

Go back to the mines Pablo, your only worth is whatever you can provide for your white european overlord

>>213599559
Your opinions are irrelevant, you are barely able to make coherent thoughts about your dinner let alone culture or politics you dumb brown chimp

>>213599586
70% of your country and every other city if not all of them was built by germans.
After your communist turdie era (because as good turdies poles also seem fixated on third worldist socialism) it was german gibs that built your country..truly honorary latinx
>>213599643
Best thing a turdie brownoid can do is admit brown inferiority and do white worship.
Maybe even we should flood the favelas with hrt, put them on a skirt, and flash them with tranime. Best scenario for turdies is becoming trannies and cutting down the cycle of turdism

>>213599692
>your only worth is whatever you can provide for your white european overlord
Objective truth about the brownoid existence that makes them lash out btw.
Not even brownoids want to be brown (hence the constant thirsting after white women)

Brownoid existence is a self defeating cyclenof self hate they cover up with humblebragging and faux pride based upon how much they can possibly try to score a dunk on whatever whitoid defines their identity by colonial resentment.
Miserable animals really

>>213599765
>Best thing a turdie brownoid can do is admit brown inferiority and do white worship
You're a slave, dont talk to me or any other free spirited man here. The best thing any brown person can do is embrace third worldism and our shared struggle against the capitalist, germanic supremacist west. This is why latrinos will never receive even 1/10th the respect nafris/blacks get in europe. You're the perfect untermensch slave that lives to serve his white master

>>213599638
>All coments in that post are pooles
and who else could that be if he literally talks about the Polish land?

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>>213599884
>You're a slave
The only thing brown turdies are good for. Blacks and naftis still mentally raped and will forever remain branded as colonized beta losers btw
>>213600559
"California and arizona is Aztlan wey" tier turdie delusion btw

>>213597179 (OP)
what the fuck is this fat retarded traitor talking about?

>>213601123
hey, don't call my fellow OP like this!

Eastern Europe belongs to a revived National Socialist Germany. We need 250m blonde Germans.

>>213603088
This 100%