A degree from here gives you royalty treatment in Europe.

>>213672205 (OP)
No degree gives you anything in this wretched continent. Only nepotism, stealing and dumb luck at whatever casino you like (crypto, stocks, horse races...) will allow you to become someone.

Never heard of them. Probably jeetfilled bs.

>>213672205 (OP)
I don't even read the education section of CVs of candidates

>>213672205 (OP)
what about pic rel or CNRS?

>>213672205 (OP)
Nobody who gets a degree from ETHZ is wasting it Poorope, lol.

>>213672205 (OP)
no it doesnt. do they learn 2+2=4 to a more precise degree? no, so why should anyone care?

>>213672205 (OP)
continental education system is different than american one, there is not that much crippling status anxiety as over there

>>213672354
this is funny coming from a french because your system is the closest to the ivy league system in the usa as it was purposefully built up to copy that

I don't even know where my colleagues studied

>>213672533
no they can stay in switzerland
but a lot of people who graduate from the grandes ecoles in france end up in america or somewhere that pays better

>>213672627
its industry dependent how much employers care

>>213672205 (OP)
>ETH

I still prefer BTC

>>213672654
Switzerland is kinda small and gets the left overs for the most part. US and UK are the top destinations.

>>213672496
EPFL? you get a free baguette over the head.

Most of my coworkers don't have degrees

>>213672862
london at best gives you 50% the salary you would get in new york or the bay area in finance and tech, surely switzerland does better than that

>>213672654
>a lot of people who graduate from the grandes ecoles in france end up in america or somewhere that pays better
Most of those poor saps get suckered back in the mediocrity of France and end up working in middle management at a CAC40 firm with a thin chance at becoming successful in their late 60s. I would know, I'm one. Most of those who make it out (and that's less than 5% of a whole class) of this dump come back buck broken less than a decade after. The X/ENA dream is through, done, killed, it died the moment the elites realised they could just reproduce themselves in Swiss boarding schools and hire their own after paying for a M.S. at HEC.

>>213672954
I only know about tech jobs. For the most part people prefer London as an office location so that's where most of the jobs are.
Zurich is way over hyped as a city, imho.
Everyone I know who lives in Zurich complains that it's a total sausage party, lol.

>>213672960
Have you tried going to the US or are you just assuming without ever trying?

>>213673039
but the real career path from eth zürich is not tech as tech do not care that much about degrees and schools but jobs like proprietary trader, quant, risk analyst, data science, market risk bullshit, etc. these are the jobs are actively looking for math/physics msc/phd students and it gives you a bonus if you are from a famous school. tech jobs are much more easier to get, pointless to grind these hard schools to get a job as a software engineer

>>213673228
>risk analyst, data science, market risk bullshit
Regular office jobs that pay like regular office jobs

>>213672383
it's literally the only American-tier uni in Europe. about equal to MIT in some fields.
>>213672476
you're not getting candidates from ETH. if I got one I'd immediately throw the application out for smurfing.
>>213673148
you're probably some richfag born with a silver spoon up his ass. to get into the tip top unis you either gotta be a 160IQ prodigy or have a solid 130+IQ AND your parents must know all the sleazy tips and tricks that richfags keep to themselves, to optimize your path into admission starting from early childhood. and if you didn't graduate from a top50 uni worldwide you're never getting into the US

>>213673148
I'm too mediocre for that. I worked at Equinor as an intern and junior, now I'm vegetating at Total hoping for an opening in Qatar so I can get the fuck out of France. But on the other hand i feel completely sapped and lifeless... I don't want to wake up tomorrow...

>>213673228
>tech do not care that much about degrees
FAANG only holds career events at Oxbridge and ETHZ.
And to get an interview or internship, you need some connection on the inside.
And guess where the Profs with alumni who work at FAANG are located?

>proprietary trader, quant,
Very small market and you need much more than an ETHZ degree to get such a job.

>risk analyst, data science,
LLMs can do you job in 10s.

>market risk
Not nearly as prestigious and sought after. 75k starting in Munich.

>>213673345
You're never going to get into an elite American uni for undergrad, unless you're exceptional, true, but I meant applying for a job.
Once you have experience and can demonstrate that you're in the top 30%, let say, it's really not that hard to get a job in the US.

>>213673489
I interviewed with some Oil&Gas in Houston. That was a while back, but it wasn't that hard.
They were even boasting that all their employees get poached by FAANG, lol.

Banking, finance and consulting jobs and their shitty work-life balance are considered to be inferior to engineering industry jobs that are governed by union contracts here.

No thanks, I am going to enjoy my 35h/week IGM contract over slaving away at a BIG4, lmao.

>>213672205 (OP)
Wrong picture

>>213672383
Yup, I visited and there were jeets and chinks everywhere.

US Ivy Leaguers only have like a 3% salary bump throughout their career compared to state schools.

Names alone and 'reputation' don't meet shit. It's all about making the right connections at the right time but if you are an outsider from the very beginning and make it inside chances are you will still come out as a nobody at the other end, sorry.

>>213672205 (OP)
Fun fact: all 9 founding professors of this "university" were Germans

>>213673893
>union leech
This is why Germany is failing

>>213674037
>we wuz scientists and sheeeet

>>213673321
no, these are generally the best paying and hardest to get regular jobs. we barely have any of these as we are not exactly a financial powerhouse. im sure you can find a lot of these in frankfurt and there are tons of these in new york and london with much much higher pay than in continental europe

>>213673684
you dont get a faang job by going to career events lol. you get a job at a compatitiv company like a startup or a technical job at a large company and then transfer from there. i know a few people from hungary who work in faang usa and none of them went to oxbridge or eth

>Very small market and you need much more than an ETHZ degree to get such a job
yeah these jobs are much much harder to get than regular software engineering jobs that is why going to eth to become a software engineer is overkill

>>213673345
>it's literally the only American-tier uni in Europe
no. if anything the grandes ecoles in france is closer
but it is not comparable. its much easier to get into eth zürich than into american ivy or similar schools.

>and if you didn't graduate from a top50 uni worldwide you're never getting into the US
lol no this is false
getting into the usa is mostly about having money. you dont even need a degree

>>213673684
>Once you have experience and can demonstrate that you're in the top 30%, let say, it's really not that hard to get a job in the US.
ok, then, if it's not so hard, explain how it can be done. assuming you're, hypothetically, a scientist or codemonkey with a PhD in the EU

>>213674477
you work at an american company then transfer. i know multiple people with bscs with meme degrees working in meme fields who transferred to the usa office. you make it seem way harder than it is

>>213672205 (OP)
Degree from here gives you royalty treatment in the WORLD.

>>213674553
but if you have money you dont even need to have a job you just arrive in the usa then hire an immigration lawyer until you get a green card
i know someone who sold their house here and spent it on immigration lawyer lol but they got a green card and have been working and living there since then
maybe its harder nowadays with the current politics but you make it seem like you need to be some kind of rocket scientist or something

>>213674639
Saar pls hire, good degree and good school yes saar!

>>213672205 (OP)
Not true, we hate foreign universities here.

>>213673345
>it's literally the only American-tier uni in Europe
This is definitely not true, there's like 5 English universities in the top 10 alone.

>>213674678
Indians students who can't get into IIT go to MIT.

>>213674477
What have you tried?
It's mostly a matter of figuring out the most fitting in-demand skill, spending some time upskilling and then applying.
With a PhD is should be easy.

>>213672205 (OP)
I do not know about Europe, but it does in Switzerland.
Also, you do not actually have to have graduated there, if you worked for ETHZ you get the same perks.

My uni has a partnership with them, double degree I think.
Employers not care what uni you graduate from, it's useful for landing internships but if you have a solid network it will be worth more than a prestigious college degree.

Also entry-level research doesn't pay at all, and getting to become a professor has more to do with, you guessed it, networking.

>>213674753
>figuring out the most fitting in-demand skill, spending some time upskilling and then applying
ok thanks I will just draw the rest of the fucking owl
>>213674731
in fields nobody here should realistically care about

>>213673684
>FAANG only holds career events at Oxbridge and ETHZ.
Anyone can send their resume to FAANG, most people get filtered by the interview process.
They're not hiring as much now but 2 years ago anyone with software dev experience could get interviewed there.

>>213674857
find a job at large american firm in latvia then ask for transfer after working there
probably the easiest way
the downside is that you have to work like pennsylvania or something in the beginning not in some tropical west coast paradise

>>213674686
Is NHH considered in Norway ?

>>213674553
if it's that easy why are you still in fucking Hungary of all places?

>>213674915
Handelshøyskolen? It's technically not a university, but it is well-regarded, yes.

>>213674908
>a job at large american firm in latvia
well for one, there really aren't any of them here. I guess there are some mid sized companies like microtik and ubiquiti, but they're both here specifically for the dirt cheap slave labor (microtik came here originally and ubiquiti came afterwards to steal their slaves), there's no way they will ever let one escape. I don't think there are any other US corps with codemonkey offices here. Couple global sweatshop firms like accenture I guess.

>>213674857
There are three (3) English schools in the top 10 of technology and engineering by QS ranking thoughbeit.

>>213674946
not saying it is the easiest thing ever but i know people with literal marketing and communication degrees who managed to transfer to the usa office, stop making it sound like its an impossible thing

there are perks in hungary like less competition. i know people who went to get a degree at lse and cambridge, a masters degree from there basically puts you at the top here and its a pretty comfy life with much less competition

>>213674857
What is your PhD in?
Here's an example. If you did Computer Engineering and touched FPGA programming, there's a few boutique firms in the US who need specialized FPGA programmers and since most Americans only do a BSc almost none of them get experience doing something like that, and although there are a lot of foreign MSc students, almost all of them are trying to get a job in SV or NYC, so if you are a bit flexible, you might land a job doing FPGA programming in North Carolina.
A PhD is typically enough to get you an interview.
Or you could just do a PostDoc and go from there.

>>213674959
Okay, thank you. Going there for 6 months starting January. Any tips to adapt to the Norwegian life ?

>>213675043
look into the finance companies. big4, blackrock, citi, these type of large companies that have offices all over

>>213675148
Bring an umbrella and be normal and respectful, don't intrude on other people's personal space unless in an appropriate social venue.

>>213675205
I'm a French pervert how am I supposed to get my kisses and grope asses if I can't invade people's space ? Just kidding. Thanks for the tips

People who get their science degrees at ETH end up working for Max-Planck and Helmholtz anyway.

>>213675148
Are you doing some grand école double degree thing or erasmus?

>>213675524
Erasmus coming from a grande école

>>213672205 (OP)
the Indian poster in /pol/ with swiss flag studies math here

>>213675912
He should have gone to IIT. Bloody bastard benchod leaving his country!

>>213672205 (OP)
>39%
fuck off you fat cunt and leave my country be.

>>213672205 (OP)
I know

>>213672205 (OP)
oxford and cambridge are better

>>213675792
Quelque chose de prestigieux, HEC/INSEAD ?
Moi, j'ai une licence en maths et je me demande s'il sera utile d'obtenir un master en finance ou peut-être faire un MBA plus tard, mais j'ai déjà presque 30 ans et parcours qui n'est pas très impressionnant

>>213672205 (OP)
Nit really, the only thing that does is social/political connections and only in some circles/sectors.

>>213672205 (OP)
There was a jeet/paki who studied there always shitting up pol larping as a swiss

>>213676415
Top 3 école de co. MiF ? Je sais pas si c'est encore possible à 30 ans, je crois que pour mon école la limite d'âge c'est 29 ans, mais bon, si t'as 60k€ à dépenser pourquoi pas, après tu fais comme tout le monde, tu sors ton Hull et tu bosses, c'est la base pour la finance de marché

At the graduate level you're supposed to go to a university because they're researching something close to your area of expertise. It's no different from searching for a job.
Getting an M.Eng and especially a PHD might make you less employable than someone with a bachelor's.