Gio head edition

>What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

Read the wiki:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold

Previously thread : >>213635165

>>213689639 (OP)
Mongolóide não sabe criar fios

I've just read some Spanish and can't shake off the feeling that it's a very low-prestige language and that it resembles Russian in practical sense a lot: basically the only reason to learn it is sex tourism, its culture is very obscure etc. Maybe I should just stop at German? Or give a chance to France? Or just shut up and proceed with Spanish?
Okay, if you convince me that nafris are at least somewhat manageable, I'll start French. Spanish is just too poor and Russian-like for me, I'm not sure whether I'll be able to overcome that.

I am learning Japanese

>>213689661
Esqueci de premcher o campo de thread subject HAHAHAHAHA.

>>213689662
Like seriously anons. You know I don't dabble in languages. I need your help just this one time and I'll be free.

>gio head edition
i learn italian for she

>>213689759
Not this gio, other gio.

>>213689783
i prefer the pretty (italianx) gio

>>213689639 (OP)
She reminds me of Lovefoxxx

Okay, I guess I can rule Spanish out at last. So it's either French or nothing.
If I start French, what can I do with it? There are only like three books I want to read in it. Should I supplant most of my use of English with French or something? But why not with Russian or German then?
I also recall there was a Swiss French anon saying that French is handicapped and narrow-minding and that he uses only English since he'd learned it.

>>213689662
Dude, every language besides English (and Japanese for weebs) is a waste of time. Unless you have actual business in that language, the only reason to learn is personal interest. I think Spain and Latin American culture are very interesting, to me Spanish is very compelling. But if you aren't into it, you can't force yourself. Learn French instead? Why? Like you said, most of the speakers of French are Africans and/or muzzies now. Are you going to learn French to read Voltaire or something? Probably not. It's a waste of time, too. There is no prestige to learning any European language. You either need an actual need OR you need a deep real interest. Anyone that is interested in French enough would just ignore my shit talking and keep learning, though. That's what you need to find.

Keep in mind, even after learning the language, you have to maintain exposure. It's a life-long thing.

>>213691313
>even after learning the language, you have to maintain exposure
Yeah exactly, and if you don't have a defined and particular field where you'd use the language, you have to cut off a share of content from another language to find a use for the new one.
>and Japanese for weebs
Also German for all non-Germanic Europeans, also Latin and Greek for lovers of the classics etc. Most languages have their own niche, but I don't quite understand what the French's niche actually is. It's just like English but more restricted and smaller in scale. Is that it?

>no subject
YOU FUCKED UP!
YOU FUCKED UP!

How the FUCK do I stop anki from copying all sorts of text to my clipboard whenever I browse between cards?
I want to copy an image from one card to another, but this makes that impossible since the image I've copied is overwritten by the text of whatever card I then select afterwards. Wtf man.
>>213689639 (OP)
What a digusting looking sow, also fuck you for forgetting to put the subject in so my filter didn't catch it and highlight it.

>>213691313
Voltaire's a very rewarding read
Moreover, Voltaire's archive was bought out by our empress and it's still here

>>213693270
Do you know French? Should I learn it?

>>213691731
it's for fags who want to go to paris.

bmp

>>213690480
We are trying to psyop her to lose weight. It's not working

What's going on with French in Indochina? Wiki writes about how important and official it is there but then marks that only about 3% of the population can speak it there. Wtf?
Also, how actually cool are the French overseas territories?

Okay, seemingly it's really over this time, I barely have any actual use for French. I stick to Russian, English, and German. Perhaps maybe much later in life I'll learn Mandarin or Hebrew but definitely not now.
At least all of this made me appreciate my mother tongue, Russian. I'm not going to assimilate into inferior cultures just to beat a polyglot strike or whatever.

What's the point of keeping this thread up? Actual language learners moved on to other sites to keep studying, this is just a thread for dabblers and mentally stunted people.

>>213696199
It's a place for socially stunted people to get their dose of social interaction by insulting each other and bonding over their shared hobby.
Personally I visit to keep up my motivation for learning my TL (terrible language).

After finishing Pimsleur Korean 1 I found reading to be slow but easy enough even though I have never attempted reading before. I guess that’s the benefit of a mostly phonetic alphabet.

The only "sow" is your mother, idiot.

>>213694791
Losing weight in your middle age is a mission impossible.

>>213691195
>If I start French, what can I do with it?
Talk with doctors and engineers like this guy:
https://youtu.be/FkA_iKKonyw?si=UDmZj047BnZdXAHJ

Returning to the previous topic: beautiful women are a fair reason to learn a language, even if you have no chance to do anything with them, it's worth it to try and, just like with cars, it's nice to be in their company
>>213691313
this.
>>213691195
French Nature Method,
French Comprehensible Input on YouTube
>>213697564
France has been a flaming dumpster for most of its modern history, not only now

>>213689639 (OP)
Vejo essa creatura toda vez que abrir o fio bra mas ainda nao entender quem ela é
Pelo menos consigo ler as mensagems dela, em comparação com a salmão

Anyways, is discord the only way nowadays to find people that speak your TL to practice outputting? I guess Italki exists but I'm not too keen to open my wallet for an otherwise free hobby

>>213689662
have you considered learning MSA, Sanskrit or Classical Chinese?

十

How are the French and the French language so based that they consistently cause /lang/ to seethe for multiple threads in a row? They must be doing something right.

>>213696024
Russian + English + German is a great language stack, imo. If your German isn't as good as your English (you at least write well), I would just keep improving that.

>>213701940
They are like a smaller America but in Europe

Russian sucks cause padezhi means that every word is actually like 6 words in disguise

>>213702044
Lol, the only thing in common they have with america is the percentage of blacks in their population.

>>213701940
they're irrelevant

>>213701940
Franceshit deserves everything it gets. Every murder, every rape, every theft and assault, the list goes on and on. I hope it gets even worse.

>>213701940
It's basically just upside-down English, it's too close and easy and that's why the people here refuse to entertain the idea of learning it.

>>213702811
Besides being one of the easier languages for English speakers to learn, why bother? France is a dying country, they aren't doing anything noteworthy, most of the speakers are African now. German is better if you want to travel Europe.

>>213703576
>why bother? France is a dying country, they aren't doing anything noteworthy, most of the speakers are African now.
You do realize you can say this for pretty much every northern hemisphere language, right? There's obviously levels to it and how fucked the country/language is, but everybody is getting flushed down the toilet together. Just pick the language you want and fucking learn it instead of crying about the demographics of X city.

>>213696638
I don't get this argument. Hangul has so many similar sounds. Both consonants and vowels. Worse than Chinese imo.

>>213692568
Is this the power of rust?

Do Japanese learners ever branch out into actual Japanese literature / media, or do they only stick to anime and manga?

>>213696199
>moved on to other sites

Such as? >inb4 supa sekret gaycord

dead

>>213696199
>What's the point of keeping this thread up?
the idea behind the reason for having the lang thread is good
> this is just a thread for dabblers and mentally stunted people.
i wish it weren't

>>213696199
lol this thread has seen worse. Not sure if anyone here remembers sch*zov

>>213704386
>argument
What argument? I’m literally just relaying my personal experience.

>making flash cards to remind myself of the mnemonics
i'm in too deep

>The Great Void x
>The Big Empty

>>213711470
This fucking stupid website is ruining my funposting again.
">The Big Empty" is supposed to have a checkmark character next to it.

>>213689639 (OP)
For anyone learning korean, Kurzgesagt has a full korean channel. Most of the videos have manual korean subtitles in the selection so you can watch it with language reactor for a pop-up dictionary.

It's one of the only korean channels I've found that both has selectable human-made subtitles and has speech that isn't running at 999 mph

Blogpost:
I'm giving up French. I won't be going there anytime soon, either for work or vacation.
I am currently considering Italian, Spanish, Japanese, and German. I am wondering whether to continue my adventure with Romance languages or no. All the skills I would like to acquire are useless, so maybe I should at least choose a foreign language more strategically. Or learn a useless language and, idk, to code. But I'm afraid it's over already
>>213702397
>but in Europe
It's an important part of my sentence
>>213703735
This. Everything is shit nowadays
>>213705080
I'm also curious. Consuming only manga and anime seems like an easy way to drive yourself crazy

>>213713437
>I'm giving up French
How many days did you last?

>>213713571
idk to be honest. I've been learning languages for some time now, but I often abandon one language for another, forget half of it, then come back to it, abandon it again, and so on. I think I have been studying French for about a month, maybe two, but not every day, sometimes a few words, sometimes another language etc.
I guess I just need some kind of plan, like a Russian anon with emigration, or weebs with understanding an anime without subtitles or becoming a mangaka.

>>213713437
learn japanese with me

Isn't learning Japanese almost impossible?

>>213714010
Did I tell you to commit to Italian so you can go to Italy, make friends and fuck women?

>>213714507
>isn't japanese impossible?
its 2 dam hard

and then it's really hard to fit into japanese society. At least in korea you'll be accepted if you speak really good korean. hard to justify learning japanese unless you're a turbo-weeb

>>213714518
I am in conflict with my friends and Italians, and for various other reasons I couldn't go on holidays as I had planned.
I'm thinking about going back to Italian. I like how polite forms are important in languages, like in Italian, maybe French (I don't know if the French still use them, or if it's just an archaism for learners), or German or maybe Spanish, but they are also more chill.
Italian also seemed less important globally than Spanish and French and has less cultural impact than Japanese. I am also annoyed by Anglicisms in Italian, at least Spaniards pronounce them in their own way. But overall liked the language.
>>213714575
I'll be so old by the time I learn Japanese. If only I had started at least 5 years ago.

>>213714507
Yes. The trade off is it's one of the only languages with enough content to be maybe worth the time investment.

>>213698181
you put some verbs in infinitive when they should be 1st person singular.
interpals could work for you. im brown so i get no attention but you must be blonde so its all set

>>213715663
this was my thought process.

For How many languages have i gone out of my way to watch content, other than english? really just japanese.

i've watched series in PT as well but almost only as a means to help me learn.

>>213715663
But what about hanging with friends? If you're not someone's childhood friend, forget about establishing a relationship, plus they went right wing recently

>>213715704
abro & entendo I assume
If so, I wrote them that way the first time around but overcorrected
>but you must be blonde so its all set
I'm not but unless you need to video call, I can probably just use a more attractive man's picture

>>213716100
They are rightfully getting annoyed with immigration and want to remain Japanese. Can't fault them for that. Any it's impossible to make real-life relationships as an adult in most places.

>>213716128
exactly.
tip for sounding better: instead of saying comparação, say contraste since it gives the idea of two really different things. comparação could be used for things that are kind of the same but differ in something and needs further explanation to explicit what exactly is being compared. usually people wouldnt end the sentence there with comparação but with contraste its good.
ex: "em comparação com a salmão, que escreve como uma criança"

>>213716692
I hadn't heard of that distinction before, thank you

>>213716617
I agree. Just... I'm too late

>>213716617
that's just a zoomer/millenial problem everywhere. lots of people are lonely and have few friends or people they can talk to. Even a lot of total normies are like that now. the culture needs to change

>>213717561
Yeah. I started imitating boomers and characters from old animes, and now I have no problem making new friends. I chit-chat here and there, shout "hey" from the other end of the street every day to some people, help people carry things, tell construction workers how to do their jobs, play with girls' dogs.
The most important thing is to judge people by their appearance, then you minimize the risk of talking with some head fucked people.
But it still doesn't come naturally to me, and I have to think about not being a cunt

Fuck. On the one hand, I want to leave Japanese for later because it is the most difficult, but on the other hand, I want to start learning it now so that I can see results as soon as possible.
Italian would be the easiest because I know something already, has the easiest pronunciation, and Polish has many borrowings from Italian. But switching to Spanish doesn't seem difficult.
So it's Japanese / German + Italian / Spanish

bump

cute Irish girl teaching Irish. sounds like she has a strong accent though... unless Irish is supposed to sound like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQNxDXXGtf8

>>213713304
감사합니다

>>213718036
Yeah for Americans think of how much less annoying old fashioned sounding accents are vs some hijabi who can’t stop saying y’all with an exaggerated valley girl accent.

Learn from old textbooks and go play mahjong with old people.

>>213689639 (OP)
I need this person's full name, their true gender, and their QRD immediately

>>213696199
it's a community; it's that simple

>>213720605
>sounds like she has a strong accent though...
She does, I saw a video by a native speaker where he named channels he recommended against watching, and hers was one of them.

>>213724147
what video was it? but yeah it strongly sounds like she's speaking it the same way as English

>>213725028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0NhclA95y0

>>213724147
>by a native speaker where he named channels he recommended against watching, and hers was one of them.
I need the complete list. Any way for you to track the original video?

>>213725099
nice, thanks

>>213721395
i hate contemporary American tiktok garbage accents.

Has anyone here tried learning a polysynthetic language?

>>213705080
>>213713437
Yes. I read 鼠の嫁入り(nezumi no yomeiri) for immersion, which I enjoyed, then peeked at 浦島太郎(urashima tarou). But since literature/mythology is more dense, I find that I'm quicker to grow frustrated with it then anime/manga. I'll probably go back to it after I reach a high enough level from weeb stuff that I don't need to look up a new word every sentence.

Page the tenth

I want to learn a language for the sake of having something to grind, use Anki for, and I guess look cultured, but I have no motivation for content of any language. I feel like I'm too spoiled with choice as a Spanish/English speaker... I somewhat wish I was a weeb, but I haven't cared about otaku culture/content for like 15 years.

>>213731147
Learn Norwegian

>>213731364
and do what, become an otaku for Knausgård's personal life and Scandinavian noir novels?

>>213731147
Just watch dubs and read translated books in your TL. The content is just a means to an end.

>>213689639 (OP)
forgot to write the title award

>>213731689
Yes. If you spend enough time searching for content, it hurts not to use it.
Alternatively Korean or Italian

>>213727891
I don't think any of them are widely spoken enough to have a lot of learners. Probably the most frequently studied ones would be Greenlandic, Nahuatl, and Navajo

>>213732042
I actually learnt Korean to decent fluency, but I straight up feel anxious thinking about studying it again. Probably have some stupid PTSD sort of thing after crashing and burning trying to get a work visa when I was there, idk. And broke up with Korean ex.
I thought of bridging Korean to learn Japanese but I don't like otaku stuff that much and if I try to work/live in Japan I'll probably get burnt the exact same way.
I feel an obligation to keep with Korean because it was part of my identity for such a long time but idk it really sickens me.
I probably have mental issues about all this stuff

challenge

Easy
I am going to the mountains tomorrow.
The train arrives at seven o’clock.
Where do we buy tickets for the bus?

Medium
If the weather is good, we will visit the old castle.
She doesn’t know how long the flight will take.
Why didn't they tell us that the road is closed because of snow?

Hard
The hotel, which was built over a century ago, is famous for its beautiful gardens.
Had we taken the earlier train, we would already be in the city by now.
While the guide explained the history of the region, I noticed that several CCTV cameras were installed in the square.

Good morning /lang/

>>213732191
I do like weebshit, but everything being anime-like is tiresome

>>213732457
やさしい
あたし、あした山に行くわ。
電車が7時に来るね。
バス票どこで買うことができるよ?

中級
天気がいいったら、古い城を訪れるつもりだよね。
彼女はフライトがどのぐらいかかるかわからないわ。
ええええ?!雪のため道路が閉鎖されていたのはなぜ教えてくれなかったの!キモーイィィィィ!

ハード
一世紀の前に建ったこのホテルは、美しい庭で有名に言われているよ。

kore made です

>>213704412
It is the power of bazillion languages but mostly rust

>>213734118
Damn, no wonder the AUR package always fails to build

>>213732457
bonum māne, vir brittanice! gratiās tibi agō prō tuā provocatiōne

ad montēs crāstinōs eō.
trāmen septimā horā advenit.
unde tesserās ad autoraedam longam emimus?

have a bump before i make breakfast

>>213689639 (OP)
what language exchange apps are good? hellotalk and tandem suck ass, women there only look for dating and chad thundercocks

Just started reading harry potter in spanish. First week of learning it and I am too lazy for anki gooning

>>213732457
οὔρεάδ' αὔριον ἐλεύσομαι
τῇ ἀρχομένῃ ὀγδοάτῃ ἥκεσκ' ἡ αὐτάμαξα
ποῦ' στὶ πρίασθαι σύμβολα τῆς παρακομιδῆς;

αἰθρίης εἴ κε τύχῃ ἐούσης ἐπισκεψόμεθα τὸν παλαιὸν φρούριον
οὐκ οἶδεν κόσον χρόνον πετήσεσθαι τὸ ἀερόπλανον
διὰ τί οὐκ ἐμένυσαν ἡμῖν τῆς χιόνος εἴνεκα ἀποπεπρᾶχθαι τὴν ὁδόν;

τὸ ἑκατὸν ἐτέων πρὸ τοῦδε τετύγμενον πανδόκειον τῶν καλλίστων πήκων εἴνεκα κλεινόν ἐστιν
εἴ τοι ἐμαρψάμεθα τὴν προτέρην αὐτάμαξαν, ἐν τῇ πόλει εἶμέν κ' ἤδη

>>213689639 (OP)
I miss gooning to shota with her. The orgasms were next level.

>>213731147
learn telugu

>>213732457

Easy
>明日、山に行く。
>電車が七時に到着します。
>バスのチケットはどこに買いますか?

Medium
>天気いいなら、古城を訪れる
>飛行がどのくらい時間がかかるか彼女は知らない。
>雪のせいで道路閉鎖ってなんで俺たちに言わなかったのかよ!?

>>213708364
>schizov
didn't he disappeared around in 2022? He might have gotten conscripted for the war

>>213743121
Take these corrections with a grain of salt.
> 電車が七時に到着します
は sounds better, I think it's because it's used with already known information. "The train" instead of "a train".
> バスのチケットはどこに買いますか?
The other word for ticket, 切符, is the usual choice when talking about public transport.
> 天気いいなら、古城を訪れる
天気がよかったら or 天気がよければ make sense in this context.
Your sentence sounds like you already know the weather is good, and you're making plans based on that knowledge. It's almost closer to "since" rather than "if".
天気がよかったら、古城を訪れるつもりだ
> 飛行がどのくらい時間がかかるか彼女は知らない。
飛行時間がどのくらいかかるか、彼女は知らない
This is less clunky.
> 雪のせいで道路閉鎖ってなんで俺たちに言わなかったのかよ!?
雪のせいで道路が閉鎖されているってことをなんで教えてくれなかったのかよ!?

what dialect of arabic is the best?

>>213746634
from what I've heard, most Arabic-language media is in Egyptian Arabic. other than that, just depends on where you want to go and who you want to talk to

>>213746634
maghreb if you're a coomer

>>213746634
Egyptian Arabic.
>Everyone understands it.
>98% of Arabic learning resources are oriented for Egyptian Arabic. Other dialects have shit resources.
>Ubiquitous, Egypt's like the Hollywood in the Middle East.

why meeeee

im being comfy in my own world
why meeeee
leave meeeeee

>>213743824
>電車は
Fair point, idk why I used が there
>切符
Can't チケット and 切符 both be used? I feel like I've heard チケット used more often, though it was in the context of concert tickets, but I assume its the same for bus tickets.
>天気よかったら
Isn't it the reverse? I thought なら can only mean "if" while たら can also be "since" or "therefore", similar to ので

The other advice is good too. ありがとう

Does learning two languages at once make sense? I would like to learn German or go back to Italian, then Spanish in one "normie" block, and in the second block, learn English at a higher level, then Japanese or some other fantasy language like ancient Greek, Sumerian, Russian - anything with strange writing system or grammar.

>>213748021
no it really doesn't, best to just dedicate your time to one and delve deep into it

>>213737721
>>213737721
>>213737721

i'm waiting

>>213747704
I think both are possible in theory, but チケット is more commonly used for movie or amusement park tickets. 切符 is the more traditional word, but it seems to be restricted to transport now.
I'm not sure about なら, it just seems wrong in that context.
Maybe this explanation could help:
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese-grammar/conditional-form-nara/

>>213747704
>>213749250
There is a very similar sentence that is marked as wrong in my Japanese syntax book. It does provide a sciencey explanation, but I don't know how to interpret it.

>>213689759
She looks like a soyjack

>>213748492
fuk

>>213749539
>明日雨が降らないなら、ハイキングに行く
>If it is the case that it won't rain tomorrow, I'll go hiking

That sentence seems correct to me, and that's how I meant to use なら in my sentence.

>天気いいなら、古城を訪れる
>If the weather is good, we will visit the old castle

I should have added 私たちは to the second part for "we" but that's besides the point.

>>213751018
It's correct if we already know for a fact that it won't rain. That's a completely different implication.

How the fuck do i train outputting without wanting to kill myself? My overall comprehension is at like shitty b1, but speaking/writing is fucking goo goo ga ga level. I need a way out of this hell
>inb4 what TL
shitalian

>>213752045
Scriptorium or similar
Anki from NL to TL

>>213752045
Why are you learning the gabagool language?

>>213752493
I guess i will have to torture myself then
>>213753020
It sounds nice and i like their country and history. Also im a huge DVCE enjoyer.

>>213752493
Native language to target language but in the form of phrases or sentences instead of individual words is ideal IMO. Pimsleur is literally 95% that.

>>213689662
> its culture is very obscure etc.

The biggest and successful singer on the whole planet is a guy from puerto. The biggest online streamer (globally) is a dude from Spain. Dude you sound like a cringe American who has never left their Anglo bubble.