I would like to begin by acknowledging that the land on which I am on is the occupied/unceded/ seized territory of the Kaw and Kansa People.

>>213826506 (OP)
Dude, it is not "their territory" - they just went there and lived there for a while, same as you. No indian ever paid a cent to buy the land they lived on.

>>213826724
>ownership of the land is how much monetary value you put into it
okay

>>213827279
Even if it wouldn't be - the indians just took the land they settled on, just like the American settlers later. They absolutely have no more claim to the land than present day Americans have.

>>213827323
Most tribes gave up their land, willing or unwilling. Like the entire state of Illinois was completely cleansed of them after they chimped out in the 1830s

>>213827323
What's the *right* metric in your view then?
How long they've settled there, how much they've cultivated there, etc.?

>>213826506 (OP)
I was born on this land. How am I different than a native? Just because their great grandpappy was here longer? Who gives a shit.

>>213828262
>Me big pointy stick
>You small stick, no pointy
>Me win war, territory and women
It's how cavemen settled disputes and it's still how we do it, survival of the fittest.

>>213828300
In the so-called civilized world, we don't do that anymore
Else I could just come in with guns and take your wife and kids

That may be the fundamentals of it, but there's always more to it
There's always complexities in simplicity and simplicities in the complex

>>213828345
The modern European borders were shaped after countless wars
It is still how we do it, it's just becoming frowned upon but it still happens