What is wrong with the English?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered

This is some fucking muslim tier shit

>imported sandnigger religion and adopted sandnigger ethics
>surprised that they started acting like sandniggers

>>213833788 (OP)
Meh, not especially bad. Pretty sure Germany still has a cage with some heretic's skeleton hanging off of a cathedral after he was left there to starve.
Whoever got this punishment had his suffering end with the 'hanged' part, the rest is just body desecration. An average cartel killing is much worse.
>hanged near to the point of death
Okay, nevermind...

>>213833788 (OP)
>Joan of Arc
>Jane Grey
Why do Angloids hate young women?

>>213834202
>doctor pavel? I'm CIA

>>213833867
Learn how to read.
>where he was then hanged (almost to the point of death)

>>213833788 (OP)
We tried to civilize them. We made their language more human-like but we couldn't make them behave, sadly.

>>213834169
And now I know how Joan of Arc felt
Now I know how Joan of Arc felt
As the flames rose to her Roman nose
And her Walkman started to melt

>>213834202
>>213834420
>Pain?

>>213833788 (OP)
Why not just do it on the ground? What even is the point of climbing all the way up there?

>>213834426
Very often the judges showed "mercy" and hung them to death, then quartered them post mortem. This would usually require the accused to fully state his guilt and repent before the execution. The same was done during the big Witch Trials in Early Modern Germany, where they were strangled before being burned as long as they admitted it.

>>213834547
For everyone to see what happens to those who betray the King, they didn't have TikTok an YouTube shorts at the time

>>213833788 (OP)
>giving traitors a horrific death is le bad
If we still had this we would still be a proper country. I would pay good money to watch it happen to Tony Blair and Boris Johnson

>>213834681
It's wrong, because there is always the chance it happens to someone innocent. Royal courts were like high schools. Just gossip and conspiracies fucking everywhere.

>>213834681
truke
has any traitors in the west been actually punished in the last 50 years?
in sweden you can sell out state secrets and get a slap on the wrist and then get rich off of selling books about it

>>213833788 (OP)
Well yea it is pretty cruel. For some reason all across Europe extreme punishments into being in the Later Middle Ages for horrible offenses
(or at least what they thought were). You have the Pole here >>213833867 talking about the Munster cages but how the Munster leaders were killed was actually by an hour long torture session where they ripped out their flesh with searing hot tongs, they had their tongues ripped out and finally killed by stabbing in the heart.

>>213834863
I would shoot through 10 innocent people to kill a traitor.
And by traitor I mean the brutal definition of the word, not some chud that retweets propaganda from an enemy country because no one wants to suck on his penis.

>>213834591
>they didn't have TikTok an YouTube shorts at the time
Now THAT'S truly horrific

>>213833788 (OP)
Since you couldn't reliably punish criminals because it was so easy to escape punishment, punishment had to be really harsh and brutal the worst the crime was. High treason being an act against the king (someone legitimised by God mind you) so had to be punished as such

>>213833788 (OP)
>>213834169
>>213833825
even when they're indulging in ritual blood sacrifice as a public spectacle, the anglos can't help but regulate the distribution of pornographic material and have strict "public decency" concerns
>The practical difference between the two offences was therefore in the consequence of being convicted; rather than being drawn and hanged, men were to be hanged, drawn, and quartered, while for reasons of public decency (their anatomy being considered inappropriate for the sentence), women were instead drawn and burned.[24][27]

>>213834863
>there is always the chance it happens to someone innocent.
no there isn't. What about when someone goes on a stabbing spree in public? What about when someone murders someone else and it's clearly caught on security camera?

You liberals will still say that it's wrong to execute murderers even when there's 0 chance that they're not guilty because you liberals love siding with and protecting evil doers from justice, especially when they're brown, because you liberals simply love evil.
this is why you'd rather the state spend hundreds of thousands or millions keeping a murderer locked up for 15 years before letting them out on the streets to murder another innocent person, rather than harvesting that certainly guilty murderer for organs and using the organs to save 3 or more innocent people's lives.
You liberals love evil more than you love innocent people.
This is one of the reasons why liberalism is one of the most evil , harmful ideology in the world today.

>>213835530
holy TRVKE

>>213833788 (OP)
These sort of punishment was the norm across history all over the world. It's our current moment in which any punishment is seen as barbaric and cruel that is the anomaly. Besides, this particular method was reserved for high treason, which was seen as one of the worst crimes one could commit.

bring back garotting

>>213833788 (OP)
>pretending continentals were any better
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert-François_Damiens
>Fetched from his prison cell on the morning of 28 March 1757, Damiens allegedly said "La journée sera rude" ("The day will be hard"). He was first subjected to a torture in which his legs were painfully compressed by devices called "boots". He was then tortured with red-hot pincers; the hand with which he had held the knife during the attempted assassination was burned using sulphur; molten wax, molten lead, and boiling oil were poured into his wounds. He was then remanded to the royal executioner Charles Henri Sanson who, after emasculating Damiens, harnessed horses to his arms and legs to be dismembered. But Damiens's limbs did not separate easily: the officiants ordered Sanson to cut Damiens's tendons, and once that was done the horses were able to perform the dismemberment. Once Damiens was dismembered, to the applause of the crowd, his reportedly still-living torso was burnt at the stake. (Some accounts say he died when his last remaining arm was removed.)
All this because he literally (literally) scratched the king.

>>213835434
It wasn't actually that easy to escape punishment because society was much more restricted so there fewer opportunities and any time you broke routine would be more likely to arouse suspicion.

Want to murder someone you don't know so there's no motive and nothing linking you to a crime?
Everyone in the community noticed that you're a stranger in the area so they're more likely to keep an eye on you or not let themselves into vulnerable situations around you and if a crime does happen you'll be the first suspected and if you can;t convince them of your innocence you'll likely be declared the culprit. And if you try to commit a serious crime in your own community , if you're suspected due to having a motive, or if your movements are unusual or unaccounted for with no alibi then you're still likely to get punished

England and several other European countries became pretty successful at executing their violent criminals in the middle ages , which over the centuries meant Britain became less violent and people became more trusting because there were fewer criminals.

The backbone of having a society that's nice to live in is killing your violent criminals.
A death penalty for breaking into someone's house for example is a very effective form of eugenics.
So would be a 3 strike rule for all violent crimes, breaking and entering or theft. The first two times you just get corporal punishment or a prison sentence, the third time death penalty.
automatically executing all 3 time repeat violent offenders would reduce violent crime 80% .

>>213835530
I remember being 13 too, anon.

>>213835913
You wouldn't be comfortable sharing your home with someone that was released from prison after committing murder.

>>213835913
No argument for why the death penalty is wrong even when your flimsy excuse of "what if there is a chance they're innocent?" does not apply?

Sounds like you lost the argument and i'm right >>213835530 and you can't refute a single thing I said, kid cuckold.

I think here it was mainly getting your bones broken and then displayed on a wheel until you die.
The concept of lengthy prison sentences simply wasn't a thing anywhere until modernity (barring nobility or awaiting trial), it was corporeal punishment only.

Justice makes no sense. No one chooses their genetics or upbringing. It's really that it feels good to see bad people suffer, but people don't think that sounds noble. There's practical reasons for doing it in any case.

>>213833788 (OP)
lots of anglo hate threads recently for things that virtually every other country in europe has done or is doing

>>213836071
justice does make sense. Making evil doers suffer and destroying them is a good thing. It's actually evil and lacks nobility if you attempt to help evil doers evade justice.
It doesn't matter that they did not choose their genetics or their upbringing, they're still evil whatever the reason

>>213836179
historical general knowledge has been rolling down a hill for decades

>>213833825
fuck off Chris
pagan executions were just as bad if not worse

>>213836179
It's not hate, just banter.

>>213836284
You didn't say why it's a good thing. It's because you think it feels good to see them suffer, putting aside practical stuff.

>>213833867
>hanged near to the point of death
>Okay, nevermind...
>>213834426
>Learn how to read.
>>where he was then hanged (almost to the point of death)
Learn how to read.

>>213836436
Why should people be allowed to commit crimes with no consequences?

>>213836439
Okay, nevermind

>>213836481
Not trying to snarky, but read again. I added "practical reasons" and "putting aside practical stuff" because it was 100% guaranteed to get a reply like that otherwise.

>>213833788 (OP)
>>213835771
Well have they tried not stabbing the king? Dumbasses

>>213835771
>>213836574
Why was his security so shit anyway that some random NEET can just attack him? Fucking bullshit.

Nobody would have been hurt if that cheap bastard just hired more guards.

>>213836490
Okay, nevermind

>>213836071
You should be killed.

>>213836620
>Why was his security so shit anyway that some random NEET can just attack him?
Even if you're a nobody with no skills or equipment if you really want to kill some guy and you have nothing to lose, it's not easy to stop you. It's a low HP high crit chance world.

>>213836736
If it's that bad to point out that people in general are a bit shit. Not saying I'm above enjoying bad people suffering. I just don't get high off my own farts and think it makes me a great person.

White people stopped being sovlful

>>213836788
>It's a low HP high crit chance world.
Indeed it is.

Swedish redditors when asked about bringing back the death penalty in Sweden

>The death penalty belongs only in dictatorships or societies in moral decay, not in a democratic state governed by the rule of law.

>Rather have real life sentences than the death penalty. There are far too many risks and irrevocable fates. Just look at how many legal scandals from the 80s and 90s are now starting to unravel...

>No, then one gets off too easily, and it primarily punishes the innocent (relatives). For serious crimes, one should rot in prison for life.

>The state should not have the right to kill people in its custody. We should not withdraw from a bunch of international treaties and organizations like the European Convention on Human Rights or the Council of Europe just because some people thirst for blood.

> Harsh punishments don't have the effect people think they do. The USA has very harsh punishments, and all it led to is more career criminals. Sweden, on the other hand, has our biggest criminals working ordinary jobs after life sentences, like Mattias Flink and Tony Olsson. Recidivism after 3 years in Sweden is 40%, but in the USA it's closer to 70%. Norway has the lowest recidivism rate, and their prisons are often compared to hotels. If you treat people like animals, you get animals. The death penalty doesn't deter because criminals don't expect to be caught.

What if I think that the people against and for the death penalty both make valid points?

lol!

>>213837073
death penalty but only for non ethnic swedes
problem solved

>>213837198
lmao

>>213833788 (OP)
Bring it back I say

>>213836436
Evil is bad , therefore an absence of evil is better than the presence of evil, therefore destroying evil is a good thing.

liberal ideology is so evil that it requires to lose the ability to do basic logic in order that they avoid noticing how evil it is.

>>213834169
> Why do Angloids hate young women?
They serve their god Satan and their masters the jews

>>213837073
>Recidivism after 3 years in Sweden is 40%
Almost a coin flip. Why even bother letting them out?

>>213837768
Evil is a judeo-christian concept. From a certain perspective a monarch who rules over people is evil. Why should he have the right to torture someone in such brutal ways for resisting him? Why do you have such a slave mentality?

>>213838157
Evil is a concept innate to all people as the antithesis of good. The system used to punish people is an entirely seperate manner.

>>213833788 (OP)
We stopped doing this centuries ago, meanwhile Germans were doing atrocities less than 100 years ago

>>213833788 (OP)
we all did that back in the days. the blod eagle being a nordic counterpart along with some others. it was mostly a deterence against crime but also a way to die respectable, if you endured the pain and suffering you where respected.