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How many planets in the universe do you think have life

>>214597159 (OP)
1 and I don't like it very much

already two threads up with the same picture so you took time to change the saves files name in order to do that

>>214597229
no idea what you are talking about. please focus on the thread topic

>>214597200
do you really think that is possible? given that the universe is practically infinite?

I think that every galaxy has at the very least one planet with life on it.
Imagine if that were the case.
The universe would be filled with life, since there are somewhere between 200 billion to 2 trillion estimated galaxies in the observable universe but at the same time life would be so far apart that we would never encounter aliens.
But we don't really know. We may have already detected planets with life we just don't know it yet. It's difficult to get in-depth information from planets lightyears away when they just appear as tiny specks.
It's hard to believe that we're alone in the universe given its size and how the conditions for life to form or planets with life to form are probably everywhere it's just a matter of probability and all the factors lining up.

>>214598409
But I do think most planets with life are probably just limited to microscopic bacteria. Any multicellular life is rare, macroscopic life is rarer, and intelligent life capable of creating civilization is extremely rare.

We are alone in this universe 100%

>>214597159 (OP)
life is probably way more common than we think, but most of it doesn't manage to become very advanced or last more than a few thousand years.
even if they are advanced, it's almost impossible to find them. we barely just developed the capability to find things in our own solar system.

For any given thing observed, that thing is most likely common. Hence life is likely a repeat occurrence in the universe.

>>214598736
Right, there could even be some hyper-advanced alien civilizations spanning multiple star systems and they'd still be impossible to detect due to the sheer distance involved.

>>214598736
>>214598836
>>214598409
why hasn't anyone replied to voyager 1 yet

>>214597159 (OP)
Just one. Impossible as it may sound. It makes it even more mysterious that our solar system is hypothetically surrounded by a barrier of asteroids that won't let anybody enter or leave unless FTL becomes a thing.

>>214599512
There are a lot of asteroids but the distance between them would still allow us to travel out. The real killer is time. Unless we made viable generation ships that were self-sustaining for tens of thousands of years then we won't be able to travel to any other star system.

>>214599684
Yes it's sparsely populated but the distance is just too fuck huge big that it's greater than the age of human life on earth itself.

Such break throughs in space travel will not happen in our lifetime or a thousand years after at all. Unless a superior cosmic civilization grants humans FTL tech, it's unlikely that humanity will achieve anything in space.

>>214600068
I hope we at least colonize the solar system and make asteroid-mining viable on a mass scale. Lots of untapped resources there.

>>214599512
What makes you think other solar systems don't have such cloud too?

>>214599089
It barely left our solar system, hasn't it?

>>214600131
>It barely left our solar system, hasn't it?
I thought it was pretty far out at this point?

>>214600103
Yes, I can't wait to set up a branch on Mars for a sca-uh, I mean customer service center for these mining companies haha.

With that being said, fuel is the biggest bottleneck. Solar sails is the most optimal method but that's still slow and allows only a small fraction of light speed.

The only other possible way is cracking nuclear fusion which can lead us to explore other stars.

>>214600266
I mean it left it years ago, but on an astronomical scale, it's really not that far. If I'm not mistaken it's still less than one light day away from us. Which is impressive but the nearest star is light years away. I don't think they even set it out on a course to Proxima Centauri

>>214600131
>>214600266
Voyager 1 isnt even 10% into the edge of the Oort's cloud. It'll take 10000 years to cross it at this rate.
>What makes you think other solar systems don't have such cloud too?
Yes they could exist and may be possibly stop other life forms from reaching out to us.

Or they could have already sent objects to scout our solar system. Like Oumuamua or maybe 10,000 years back or 100,000 or 1 million or billions of years ago when earth was just primordial soup.


The only realistic possibility is that our lives are just a simulation on someone else's computer. That makes more sense than space or gravity and light.

>>214597159 (OP)
Given the amount of galaxies, stars in those galaxies, and so on?
Trillions of planets.
How many are flying around in UFO's? A few thousand, maybe.
How many of those UFO civilizations reach Earth? At most one or two.

>>214600520
you are just blatantly speculating, there is absolutely zero rigor in your post whatsoever

Think about it. What makes more sense?
What is more believable to you?

Billions of stars, trillions of galaxies existing in this universe that's 13 billion years old and organic sentient life only exists in one planet inside one galaxy in one small isolated corner of said galaxy that is also the only known spot in the universe where trees also exist.

Or

Reality is an illusion simulated by some zoopy zoop zoidberg playing The Sims cosmic edition on his zoop mom's 5th dimensional iPhone. Us having to sleep or fucking die is the zoidberglet logging out of the game.


Which do you think makes sense?

>>214600817
>that is also the only known spot in the universe where trees also exist
is this supposed to be strange? no shit, trees are life and we are life. what's your point

>>214600817
So how do you imagine the "real" universe looks like?

>>214597159 (OP)
None of them.

>>214600844
So why aren't there trees anywhere else in the known universe?
Assume that the universe is just THAT big and we have been dealt with horrible odds that we couldn't find organic life, even algae anywhere so far, the opposite could also be considered true.
Yet there are no heat signatures or even microbial life confirmed.
That's one in a trillion galaxies x Billions of stars x even more Billions of planets chance.
But on a cosmic scale, this is still considered a great probability because so far we are excluding the range where life doesn't exist which is why it's so crazy.


On the other hand, there's also a chance that we're just code running on some advanced civilization beings running trillions of calculations at the same time to study what their idea of the universe could be like.
This would mean such simulated universes outnumber the real base universe, infinity to 1.
At this point it's more of a thought problem than reality. I personally go with this being more realistic.

>>214600878
Some cosmic level entity playing The Sims on his phone. I'm being forced to post on this image board at 5 in the morning because Zoidberg wants me to.


All the stories of prophets in religions having visions and audiences with God are just memory leaks in the code.

>>214597200
Dubs checked.

1pBb

>>214601220
Just because we can't detect it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You can say that there are no trees elsewhere in the solar system, sure. But in the known universe? We will probably never have an image of a planet from the nearest solar system with a resolution high enough to tell that, what more of every place in the observable universe. Best we can do is analyze the atmosphere but even with the current telescopes it doesn't provide us with that much information.

And to phrase my previous questions differently - if this universe doesn't seem real enough to you, that it seems more like a simulation; What would it need to be like for you to think that it is
"Real" and not simulated?

>>214601570
Keep in mind that you're talking to a jeet.

>>214601220
Planets in other solar systems are extremely difficult to detect, only show up when eclipsed against their star, and even then only show up when big enough and appear as tiny specks. We don't know if we've seen different solar systems with life or trees or not since we don't have enough information about them.

>>214597159 (OP)
glorp

>>214597159 (OP)
if the universe is infinite and isotropic doesn't that mean there must be infinite earths?

>>214599684
i think you are forgetting that we have no viable technology or materials that could prevent radiation damage even on a molecular level of human DNA. the more generations you have on a generation ship, the more likely that serious genetic diseases form and make life impossible to sustain over interstellar distances

>>214601875
well its clearly not infinite in the mathematical sense. there is no way there is another earth just like ours with identical copies to all of us in this universe.

in others, maybe. but not here, in our world.

>>214601956
With a sizeable enough population and genetic engineering that wouldn't be a concern I think. Either with a single generation ship or a fleet of them.
Of course we haven't even set up shop throughout most of our own solar system yet so we're still probably hundreds or thousands of years away from actually attempting to travel to other systems.
It would cost a shit ton of money/resources though and have a payoff that's extremely long-term.
Maybe we could send out probes that could seed other planets with life or replicate humans or something. All this depends on how far technology can develop. I'm just speculating here.

>>214602121
>probes
this is our best bet right now, particularly the microscopic solar sails probe proposition.
we could probably do proxima and maybe alpha centauri but i doubt we’ll find much there and i assume humanity will call it a day when we find that interstellar travel is kinda pointless, especially if by that point we’ve found alien microbes which would kinda answer the question of life beyond earth

>>214601956
honestly I think people would just evolve hardening against radiation after like 10 generations or something

>>214604379
that’s a very risky gamble very unlikely to go your way. more than likely even minor gamma ray exposure either completely sterilizes the population or makes serious genetic diseases/radiation poisoning/freak cancers more likely due to long term genetic damage

>>214604419
it's a good thing that this is a very easily testable hypothesis so humans will know the exact effects and potential for evolving defenses against it FAR before sending any potential mission

>>214604467
you can’t really do much to prepare for nonstop gamma, alpha, and beta radiation bombardment over tens of generations with any feasible modern or even near-future tech/materials that we know of

>>214601956
>>214599684
can't you just freeze eggs to have extra uncontaminated genes? store them behind as much shielding as you can

>>214604504
bullshit
this is the easiest problem I've ever heard, the human species is working on far harder problems than this lmao, you think we can't figure this shit out?

>>214604514
if even 1% of the potential radiation load is exposed to fertilized eggs/embryos, 8/10 of them will be unviable within 100 years. not only that but you would need to employ a not only trustworthy, but usedul and resourceful AI system which could effectively child rear and raise normal human beings who, not only should be able to complete the extremely difficult tasks of their mission, but also will have a serious ethical debate of signing people up for something like that without their consent
>>214604522
yeah? why is skin cancer still one of the most common diseases in the world

>>214597159 (OP)
It may be very few
Even fewer that have intelligent life.
I don't think earth is the only one, but it's probably extremely rare

>>214597371
Yeah. And if it exists so far away we can't travel there then it's useless

>>214604419
Just stay away from the windows and don't go on spacewalks I guess

>>214597159 (OP)
no idea

>>214597229
It's an adorable picture thoughever so it getting reused is a good thing

prolly bout tree fiddy

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