Thread 214660572

>American individualism vs. European collectivism

Which one is better for a culture's well-being?

>>214660572 (OP)
Apu is a weak childish version of pepe doe

dead latino is better

>>214660572 (OP)
That's not "European frog", that's Apu you newfag

>>214660623
>>214660024
samefag

>>214660572 (OP)
Poland is Pepe posting nation and it shall remain so

>culture
obviously collectivism, culture only proliferates and develops through communal identity
now if you had mentioned
>immense wealth
then individualism obviously. if i can justify fucking over my own family members and still be considered a good person, my society will act like an evolutionary game of survival of the fittest and value success more than anything else.

>>214660677
Don't Switzerland and Norway prove you can't be a collectivist society AND filthy rich?

>>214660611
Europeans are weak, childish versions of Americans, so it fits.

>>214660712
>Norway
literally just got lucky just like every other oil producer
>Switzerland
an anomaly, i’ll grant you that. they, the United Kingdom, and Japan are the few countries who (for a long time at least) managed to be highly collectivist while also being fairly rich

>>214660572 (OP)
>curious about the world
honestly feels like that's been completely lost, everyone is a narrow-minded chud now

People get too confused by the individualist vs collectivist dichotomy and it's not all that useful here anyway. We're both a part of quasi socialist democratic-republic welfare states. This much is immaterial.

I would call the American vs European mentality as more ambition vs satisfaction. Americans want to workmaxx and consumemaxx, have all the opportunities open to them, while Europeans want their comforts and guarantees and are happy with high floor/low ceiling. This tracks perfectly since the only Euros that would ever up and move to an entirely different continent would be remarkably ambitious. The subtle but major effects of genetics aren't lost here.

>>214660811
Yes, sadly /int/ has changed a lot

>>214660811

Being curious about how other people are is how I became a chud, actually. I don't like you because I do understand you, and I have a strict statistical and empirical hierarchical ranking of world cultures and peoples.

>>214660879
I like him, he's my brudi. You're my brudi too

>>214660825
>have all the opportunities open to them, while Europeans want their comforts and guarantees and are happy with high floor/low ceiling. This tracks perfectly since the only Euros that would ever up and move to an entirely different continent would be remarkably ambitious
youre just saying whatever comes into your mind
in the 1800s and 1900s most of european immigrants were farmers and factory workers not businessmen and inventors

>>214660879
Did you ever leave the US?

>>214660572 (OP)
If you think Pepe is soulless then you're soulless. Those with the divine spark recognize it in Pepe.

>>214660951
thanks fren

>>214660960

Why do you think a farmer or laborer can't be ambitious? Do you not know what they were doing here? Showing up and being given 100 acres of pure nothing to build farms and cities out of. The fuck are you saying? lol

>>214661036
they mosly left because there were NO jobs or farmland left for them, not because the farmland was adequate but not enough for them
it was neccesity not ambition lol

>>214660974

It's always puzzling how angry you guys get when I say the same thing that you say and champion day in day out on here, or reddit, or anywhere. Schrodinger's European: simultaneously bragging about their 5 months of state mandated vacation and the need to barely work while receiving state benefits and free healthcare, mocking the American need to work 60 hour weeks and live in huge houses and cars.

BUT ALSO
WE ARE TOTALLY JUST AS AMBITIOUS AND CONSUMERISTIC AS YOU ARE
DON'T YOU EVER EVER EVER SAY WE'RE CONTENT

>>214661075

>there is 0 to no opportunity here
>there is endless opportunity (and risk) over there
>I'm leaving

This is called "ambition." Happy to teach you a little more English today. You guys are whiny faggots.

>>214661079
I didn't say anything like that. OPs image is a but provocative, sure, but it doesn't warrant an angry tirade like that.

>>214661079
>>214661104
Why do you hate us so much

>>214661104
>i have to leave or otherwise i will starve, im so ambitious
i guess it makes sense that youre acting like this since americans are told that they are special and are the best country in the world since theyre a kid

HELLO??????????

I hate 4chan so fucking much, why can you bring back Krautchan already?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqHwDBo21GQ

>>214662227
>Krautchan
I never posted there, was it good

>>214660668
But our general is shat with animu pics just like /sauna/
Whereas, for example, the German general is literally the apu-central.

>>214664459
The irony is that they never used to post apu until I started it and I never post in /deutsch/

This is my impact.

>>214660729
gas yourself

>>214664882
Can't, it's not allowed in Europe. Gas isn't child friendly.

>>214660572 (OP)
switzerland and singapore's existential fear denying their citizens the comfort of being able to live with any sense of self-righteous moral delusion