Thread 214749523

did your country ever have a civil war?

>>214749523 (OP)
Depends who you ask

>>214749523 (OP)
your civil war was literally german and swedish nobility ordering finnish serfs to fight their own people

>>214749523 (OP)
no

>>214749976
Tell him more about his country chudcel

>>214749523 (OP)
not really self fighting is kinda dumb

>>214750017
back to bangladesh saar

>>214749523 (OP)
Yes.

>>214749976
>>214750017
>>214750090
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Legion_in_Finland

>>214749523 (OP)
Sorta? War for independence was a bit of a weird one

>>214750192
>>214750090
B-baaaased

>>214750204
We won it for you

>>214750204
>>214750328
we won it for you

>>214749523 (OP)
no lol civil wars are by definition shithole thirdie-coded

>>214750396
You caused Stalin to give us the ultimatum in 1939

>>214749523 (OP)
England? Yes, and it was kino but the government censored anything about it for so long no one cares now
Somaliland? No, instead we overthrew Stalinist tyrants https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_National_Movement, literal heroes that make federal-somalis seethe to this day

>>214750763
that's on you for being nazi chuds, chud

>>214750801
Forgot image, only wish I was born earlier to have fought with these heroes, instead I've gotta wait 5 years to leave this rainy shithole

>>214750050
you country literally has more riots than any other 1st world nation, shut your silly ass up

>>214750871
we dont have any riots, last time ive seen the road blocked on a drive to/from work was years ago because of a football match.
you people have riots every day

>>214749523 (OP)
we didn't have an event explicitly named "civil war" but there were quite a lot of events that actually were civil wars, just for some reasons we don't call them like that, probably to make an impression that we have always been united as a nation

>>214751100
>we dont have any riots
brother your "country" was the largest kettle prior to oct7 happening, general strikes, prison riots and riots on the streets over some court reform or some shit

>>214750763
so you mean it would have been better if we hadn't saved you in 1920 and you had been part of the USSR already since early 20s? then surely you wouldn't have gotten a 1939 ultimatum

>>214751100
Literally only had 1 major riot and it was last year caused by retardation, last major before that was 2011 for shiz and giggles and cause austerity blows, and before that it was 1988 Pol tax (good times)

>>214749523 (OP)
Yes. The bad guys won, unfortunately.

>>214750090
Grim

>>214751176
We annihilated russians by mid-1919 already, the war was over by early 1920, 2 february the peace treaty was signed. Didnt have much to do with Pola

>Estonian colonel Hans Kalm shot at least 218 women in early May.
>The number may be considerably higher; the Labour Archives of Finland's Terror List includes the names of 600 women, but their fate cannot be verified.
>The largest single execution in Lahti was carried out on 9 May, when at least 100 Red women were shot.[18] According to the diary of German officer Hans Tröbst, they were shot with a machine gun in the woods near the Hennala Garrison; according to Tröbst, the surrounding trees were spattered with brain tissue.
>Women wearing men's clothing, such as trousers or a military outfit, were commonly considered armed fighters and summarily shot. Women tried to get rid of their trousers, and sometimes wore nothing but underpants

>>214751619
>We annihilated russians by mid-1919 already, the war was over by early 1920, 2 february the peace treaty was signed.
dude, that was only because they were in the middle of civil war
assuming that Poland would have fallen to the USSR in 1920 and bolsheviks would occupy all of it, do you think they would have simply ignored little Baltic republics and let you live? No, actually dealing with you was the first thing they did after conquering Poland in 1939, so we can safely assume they'd have done the same in 1920.

>>214749976
This is true, sadly finns lost that day and we still learn swedish in school >.<

Yes, we spent the entire 1800s fighting ourselves, it was a shitshow

>>214749523 (OP)
Technically, the Malayan Emergency was a civil war between Malays and Chinese, the latter being Communists. During WWII, the British funded the Malayan Communist Party to fight the Japanese. After the war, the Communists decided to continue fighting against the British and Malays. 99% of the Communists were Chinese because Malays are Muslim and Indians are Hindus who are against the atheist Communism. The Emergency only truly ended in the early 80s. I remember my father driving us in his car in escorted armed convoys when travelling through "Black" Communist infested areas.

No.
We did fight the kalmar union which we were technically a part of several times however.

>>214749523 (OP)
>Sweden
>Yes
But it was either Dackefejden or Scanians chimping out, or mabye when we broke away from the Kalmar Union. Long ass time ago anyways

No

>>214751493
Sounds pretty reasonable when you think about it logically. Femoids really be the gatekeepers damaging behavior

That whole period just makes me sad. Finn against finn, reprisals, mass executions. Some of that stuff is hard to read man.

>>214754112
C'mon, you can't say fighting against communism wasn't a worthwhile battle.

>>214751965
Argentine Confederation was based btw. They literally wanted to kill freemasons

>>214754112
It's a good thing the whites won. Imagine what kind of shithole Finland would have been under Soviet control. Imagine what kind of paradise planet we would have lived in if the Germans won WW2.

>>214754189
Sure. But I relate to the poor factory worker and peasant too. They got the worst of it.

>>214754255
Oh I agree

>>214754255
German fascism was super retarded, even compared to other fascist regimes. Even Mussolini couldn't take it seriously.

>>214749523 (OP)
Not really, the closest would be the brothers war but that doesn't really count, especially now that the Austrians decided they are special boys that were never ever ever German o algo

Yes

>>214754340

>thing that turns a country from a humiliated economically bankrupt joke to the preeminent superpower of the continent is a joke

you're a joke jokey

>>214754607
Yeah act 2 was pretty good. Best go home before act 3 starts.

>>214754703

Greedy over ambition doesn't mean the underlying system isn't working, as it clearly did. Germany conquered out of a position of internal strength built from fascism. It works. Hitler also declared war on too many people.

>>214750090
>not a single Finnish name on the nationalist side
wow

>>214750845
>I've gotta wait 5 years to leave this rainy shithole
Why can't you leave tomorrow? Genuine question, btw

>>214754735
The whole thing was greedy overambition. It's like Trajan's conquests; sure he beat the entire Persian empire and annexed all of mesopotamia, but you can't maintain an occupation like that indefinetely. As soon as control slips, you're fucked.

What concessions could Germany have gotten, a few border cities? A fascist government in France? See how long that lasts. No, they didn't think it through. Arguably they won too hard.

>>214749523 (OP)
Sort of

>>214754866

I don't think you realize how sympathetic most of his conquests and vassals were in 1941 anon. It was a strong position to consolidate. You have Germany + Netherlands + Austria (basically all of central Europe) happily a part of the coalition. Italy/Romania/Balts/Scandis are all allied or sympathetic as well. France was hit or miss but still fairly peaceful as long as he granted them semi autonomy. And Spain was effectively an ally. That only leaves the UK holding out on their island, which is obviously immaterial. He could have stopped and consolidated gains there, formed his European pole of power, would have been the strongest in the world. Instead he declared war on the top 2 manufacturing powers on earth.

ye

>>214751176
You could've just given Vilnus back to Lithuania and be done with it, but no you had to make it all awkward for no reason

>>214756406
>give lithuanians a city where no lithuanian lived
why?

>>214749523 (OP)
Plenty in ancient times, now we don't. People were agitating for one in 2023 though, then Oct 7 happened

>>214749523 (OP)
We had the great paulista chimpout of 1932.
To this day paulistas tell their children that they won and host yearly parades to celebrate their victory, but they actually lost

>>214749523 (OP)
yes in 1926 i think

>>214750090
>boguslawski
NONONONO even a pole had more influence than finnish

>>214756629
>USP was founded during the war to help with the effort
>several factories modernized for the war effort
>because of that the SP forces equipment were far superior than the govt's
>SP was building their own warplanes while Rio had to import from France
>in the end a new constitution was written anyways, which was SP's objective
>decades later São Paulo is the richest and more developed state of the whole union

Now cope and seethe.

>>214750090
>>214754739
let's fact check this
>Mannerheim
Swedish speaker, no question about it
>Ignatius
"Ignatius was the son of the Fennophile Senator, Karl Ferdinand Ignatius"
"Young Hannes wanted to be a soldier and was enrolled in the Hamina Cadet School. He graduated with high honors as a cornet, even though he was a Finnish speaker."
>Linder
Swedish speaker
>Löfström
Swedish speaker
>Wetzer
Swedish speaker
>Wilkman
"Karl Fredrik Wilkman was born in Helsinki on Monday, March 27, 1876. His parents were master mason Karl Wilkman and Eeva Posti. The Finnish-speaking family was Laestadian."

>>214758512
it's not looking good finnish sissies...

>>214757064
All of that just mental gymnastics just like americans talking about kill ratio in Vietnam.
Your objectives were not met, you lost.
>in the end a new constitution was written anyways, which was SP's objective
That was not your objective, that's retarded revisionist bullshit. The objective was forcing the government to step down and follow the rules written in the previous constitution, the government writting a new constitution ratifying their new laws was the complete opposite of what paulistoids wanted. It was about the content of the constitution not just having any constituion.

what did Fennoswedes mean by this?

>>214754787
Committments, education and shit. Might be shorter and longer than 5 but we'll see