Thread 215897663

wow, Scandinavia has some shitty soil

>>215897663 (OP)
Is this just for farming?

>>215897739
no, taste also

>>215897663 (OP)
Bullshit map

https://anba.com.br/en/brazil-to-be-worlds-largest-food-producer-by-2035-cna/

>>215897663 (OP)
we have some great soils, yet we need American bail outs financed with the money of Americans farmers, because we are a bunch of brown retards.

>>215897887
To be fair Brazil had to import most of its food prior to the 1950s-60s Green Revolution.

>>215897663 (OP)
There is no desert here, and also the largest amount of wheat in our country is grown here.

Damn, no wonder the ziggers want Ukraine and didn‘t give away Dagestan.

>>215898188
Ukraine was historically always Russia's breadbasket yes.

>>215898097
eh....

>>215898188
Danestan is rocky and arid, suitable only for grazing mountain goats and sheep

>>215898282
This is what autumn in the steppe looks like, but not spring/summer.

>>215897663 (OP)

they have fish

>>215897663 (OP)
Yes, it's why we were hunter gatherers for so long and when we did adopt farming it was slash and burn

>>215898244
The white area in the south of Ukraine has saline soil from the Black Sea so it's almost useless land.

>>215898300
Nevermind, guess that region is called Krasnodar or Circassia. I just thought of it as Dagestan/Chechnya or Caucasia.

>>215897663 (OP)
I live in the red area.

>>215898438
Kuban/Black Sea coast is the only region with a sub-tropical climate in Russia. In fact, these lands are used more for growing tea, grapes, tangerines, figs, and other southern crops than for wheat/cereals.
There is almost no winter/frost there because the Caucasus Mountains shield this region from the north-east wind.

>>215898097
there is, astrakhan oblast doesn't produce shit, most of the grain is grown around krasnadar
anecdotal photos don't mean anything

>>215897887
The map is correct, your 83 IQ is showing

>>215897663 (OP)
What's in the random white patched in south central Germany?

>>215898418
> when we did adopt farming it was slash and burn
You're Slavic.

>>215898097
Fertelizers do magic.

>>215898638
no it's the other way, you are Finnic. Only poles etc. are real slavs.

>>215898598
The circled area is mostly white but does have some green and purple indicating useable soil.

>>215898598
The Volga Delta runs through Astrakhan. It's the largest river delta in Europe. You don't know shit.

>>215897663 (OP)
New England's soil is mostly rocks, in the early XIX century lots of people migrated to the West as the region was overcrowded and had poor soil.

>>215897663 (OP)
now you know why no one lives here

>>215897663 (OP)
My state is mostly orange so it's just meh.

>>215898711
that's not how it works
do you think egypt doesn't have deserts because of the nile?

Make our food for us farmies

>>215897663 (OP)
Crazy how the São Francisco River valley is in the LOW-LOW cat. while being the one of the most impotant areas for agriculture in the NE.
I expected a green stain on the location of the great Serra Geral basaltic eruption

>>215899068
and that's all due to modern fertilizers. it was once useless land and Brazil used to grow nothing but cash crops rather than food staples.

>>215898952
There is a difference between the steppes and the deserts. Why is it so difficult for you to understand?
If this were a real desert, there wouldn't be this endless number of ancient burial mounds of our ancestors.

>>215898097
It’s most likely white because there’s no data available for the region. You cant expect complete and accurate data from an area with no electricity or paved roads.

>>215899197
The map kind of sucks because it doesn't differentiate between the 9 and 8, one of which is "desert" and the other "not quite desert"

>>215899197
Well, it's a stupid joke because the south of Russia is quite urbanized, but really, no one knows what's going on in the Siberian taiga right now.

>>215899195
Bad soil quality != desert.

>>215897663 (OP)
The tropics generally have pretty awful soil.

>>215897663 (OP)
The South kinda sucks because it's mostly clay soil and not very good for staple food crops.

>>215897663 (OP)
California is nice except in the north.

>>215897887
as he said, Brazil like most tropical regions does not naturally have good soil until modern farming techniques existed

>>215898097
This Russian bullshitting needs to stop

>>215897663 (OP)
Who the fuck cares about soil? Farming is subhuman third-world behavior.

>>215897663 (OP)
I don't know what "soil resilience" means and neither do you.

>>215897663 (OP)
Thats why their diets are based on fish and berries that grow all year. Kinda like bears.

>>215901022
>Soil resilience is the capacity of soil to resist, adapt to, and recover from disturbances like drought, floods, or intensive farming practices. It is enhanced by maintaining healthy soil structure, which includes good aggregation and high organic matter, and by fostering a diverse biological community of microorganisms, fungi, and other organisms. Key threats to soil resilience include erosion from practices like over-plowing, deforestation, and overgrazing, which degrade soil quality over time.

>>215900971
You have to go back, Walid.

>>215897663 (OP)
What's going on in northern France with that white patch?

>>215898394
that's some nice soil you got there Ionescu

ok

>>215897663 (OP)
northern Europe and Canada are all post-glacial soil of course they suck

>>215900939
still not desert

>>215897663 (OP)
This is totally wrong, the highest agricultural output in the country is in the east.

Redder = Better.

>>215897663 (OP)
>New England's soil is generally poor due to rocky, glacial till and a short growing season, which made large-scale agriculture difficult in the region's history. Early farmers had to clear stones to make fields arable, limiting them to subsistence farming and forcing many to turn to other industries like fishing and trade. Today, while modern farming methods and specific crops have adapted, the region's soil is still characterized by its rocky, uneven, and shallow nature, often with underlying sand.

>Scandinavia has historically faced challenges with poor soil quality due to factors like glaciation, which stripped fertile topsoil, leaving behind acidic and thin soils, often with a high proportion of sand and clay. This makes agriculture difficult, and historically, populations have relied on a combination of more resilient crops, like barley and oats, hunting, and fishing. Modern threats to soil health, such as erosion, loss of organic matter, and compaction, continue to impact agricultural productivity.

tl;dr

>>215904570
>Posts a forest
The whole area is >5% forested, though. Quit bullshitting.

>>215905210
I guess if the map is accurate Bavaria has good farmland and the north of Germany near the coast is pretty shitty.

>>215904689
Sir, it's because it's flat there
Jæren has much better soil quality

>>215905210
Meant to say <5%

>>215905500
it looks like west Texas

>>215905270
The north actually has a lot of agriculture, especially Lower Saxony

>>215905270
>North Germany has poor soil primarily due to extensive sandy areas called Geest, which are formed from glacial deposits and are low in water retention and nutrients. Additionally, some regions have issues with soil compaction in the subsoil and are vulnerable to wind erosion, particularly in flatter, coastal areas. While some parts have fertile soil from glacial till, the sandy plains pose significant agricultural challenges.

>>215905765
yeh you can't farm in sand

Now you know why all of MENA wants to live here.

>>215897763
you pretty much suck too

>>215905997
A few good patches in the south center of Sweden but yeah mostly all red.

>>215897663 (OP)
the Midwest is sick, man

>>215897663 (OP)
Tropical soil sucks, it's thin and acidic.

>>215897663 (OP)
>Morocco
wow, nice

>>215905500
Is it from Kalmykia?
>>215905547
Kalmykia probably is kinda like Texas.

>>215907085
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elista#Climate

It is classed as a Dfa climate which means more like Illinois, Iowa etc than Texas.

>>215907211
Koppen climates are shit. Compare the precipitation.

>>215907349
it's more a measure of average temperatures than precipitation. i happen to life in a Dfa zone but closer to the coast so it doesn't get the continental effect of those two locations

>>215907464
ah, ok

blump

>>215897663 (OP)
No shit.. Most of our soil is very shallow and bedrock is just below the surface. The rest is nutrient lacking dirt packed with rocks.

>>215908663
is all post glacial soil outside the little blue patches on the map

>>215908997
yeah

>>215898623
sand dunes? i have no idea.

>>215897763
lol

>>215897663 (OP)
Why is Ukraine struggling with money if they have the best land on the planet?

>>215908663
Correct, same basically goes for Braapzil. It's about knowing how to take care of it.
Not that the trees and berries need anything more, but once you start farming it's different.

>>215913128

>>215898361
As see here. Native steppe plants grow just fine but that's not the same thing as using it for farmland.

>>215912932
You're half blue, you actually came out ok here.

>>215897663 (OP)
how did we breed with shitty soil lmao

>>215913128
>Correct, same basically goes for Braapzil
And yet...

>>215913521
Tropical soil always sucks even though there's some good patches in there.

>>215913688
volcanic alluvial soil
but still

>>215897663 (OP)
I live in Pennsylvania which as you see is mostly orange with some blue.

>>215902440
Arabs are farmers, you fucking retard. Where do you think it started? Nigger.

k

>>215897663 (OP)
Do they need a lot if the population is so small?

>>215900939
the barbarian invasions that destroyed the Roman Empire came about when the steppes shifted to a dry weather pattern in the 3rd-4th century that made grass more sparse.

>>215914868
Your soil is...average.