Thread 216134800

We'll be the fourth in Asia
Please look forward to it

>>216134800 (OP)
you're welcome - america

First world country trait
Good for you!

>>216134806
nigga your cunt is gayer than ours

>>216134800 (OP)
based
gay love is purest love

>>216134800 (OP)
>collapsing birth rate
>fertility rate of 0.7
>decide to legalise fag marriage
What did South Korea mean by this?

>>216134800 (OP)
good for them. doesnt affect me in any way.

>>216134800 (OP)
(((American))) foreign policy is clearly succeeding

>>216134800 (OP)
Good for them.

>>216134800 (OP)
What's the problem?

>>216134875
do you think homosexual people will suddenly reproduce if they cant marry?

>>216134800 (OP)
>>216134951
>>216134878
>>216134992
Eh.. that's a bad idea. Not that it's my job to comment on your country, but I generally oppose any gay "rights" in general (aside from sodomy being legal) because you're better off not normalizing homosexuality. The only places where I support them are shitholes like India and certain West Asian countries since I want those places to be run into the ground.
>Inb4 christcuck
I haven't had a single religious bone in my body since I was 13.

>>216134996
chuds uncritically think so

>>216134996
I wish homosexuals wouldn't reproduce, but nowadays they take advantage of reproductive technology such as sperm donation and surrogate pregnancies to pass on their gay genes.

>>216134996
>>216135139
Exclusively homosexual people? No (They are extremely rare anyways, like less than 5% of the pop.) But it can encourage people who both ways to have sex with women instead.

If homosexuality is taboo, then bi-sexual leaning people would probably shove "those weird thoughts" to the back of their minds and have sex with women instead.

>>216134800 (OP)
How do Same sex marriages work? Does it force itself upon the religion? Or is it just a strong civil union

>>216135171
Homosexual men are less criminal and more intelligent than straight people on average. When they are parents of children the children statistically do better in school for instance.
I dont see how its bad giving on these traits be it through nature or nurture
>>216135120
Retard edgelord

>>216135171
Homosexuality isn't a passed on gene, it's passed on trauma from being molested at a young age that the homosexual then at some point inflicts on another young man.

>>216135270
>When they are parents of children the children statistically do better in school for instance.
Fags are also more likely to rape their children. i believe neither gays nor lesbians should be allowed to raise children.

>>216134800 (OP)
still, why would you get married? you need a piece of paper to say you like your dick covered in shit?

>>216135270
>When they are parents of children the children statistically do better in school for instance.
I honestly don't take studies like that seriously because any opposing study gets lambasted by the media and the people behind it get harrassed by activists.
>>216134878
>doesn't affect me in any way
A bisexual can get AIDS from male sexual activity and then spread it to the straight population by having sex with a woman.
>>216135294
Tb h it can be genetically or hormonally influenced, but that's not the same as being born gay. It's kind of like how having a "tall" gene will can have an influence on your pursuing a career in basketball. Or yeah, like you said, it can be instilled via sexual abuse as a child.

>>216135302
>i believe neither gays nor lesbians should be allowed to raise children.
They are better off statistically than the kids of straight people.
>>216135348
>I dont take science seriously because i dont feel like it
As always homophobia remains a low iq trait

>>216135387
Dude it's true. Throughout the 2000s and 2010s, pro gay studies (alot of which use small sample sizes) got loads of attention from the media, while the ones that don't paint a rosy picture of homosexuality received vitriolic hate. And ultimately psychiatrists are people too, so alot of them just decided to keep quiet about it.

Heck, homosexuality wasn't even de-listed from the DSM for legitimate reasons. It was done because a bunch of homosexual activists kept storming press conferences. Now admittedly, going by technical definitions, homosexuality isn't really a mental disorder. It's more of a paraphilia per say.
>They are better off statistically than the kids of straight people.
See this is what I'm talking about when I say this stuff makes no sense. Saying that a kid is better off being raised by two dads challenges our fundamental understanding of human nature as a whole.

>>216135270
>Homosexual men are less criminal
Ok fag kraut

>>216135498
I know that women statistic is purely because lesbians can't stop beating the shit out of each other

I think even moreso than trannies they're the most miserable sexuality

>>216135498
this graph is meaningless without specifying what offensces they were arrested for. I can be arrested for posting a mean tweet in my country.

>>216135567
>I can be arrested for posting a mean tweet in my country.
that's only you and Saudi Arabia though, far from the majority.

>>216135580
still shows that context is important, being arrested by the police doesn't mean you're necessarily a bad person

>>216135483
>wasn't even de-listed from the DSM for legitimate reasons
No reason to list it there
>challenges our fundamental understanding of human nature as a whole.
It really doesnt. Kids have been risen by single moms, dads or family or whatever the situation needed just fine in history since people died very often.
If one dad/mom is fine why wouldnt two be?

>>216135634
>Kids have been risen by single moms, dads or family or whatever the situation needed just fine in history
No? I mean, setting aside the fact that having a single dad is different from the confusion that arises from having two dads, kids raised by single parents objectively do worse.

Besides, even though I oppose it on principle, single parents are more of a result of a tragic circumstance. That's not the same with gay parents.

Too bad people don't hang and lobotomize them anymore.

>>216135335
It establishes stuff like property rights amd inheritance. There are stories of say a gay guy dying, then his partner is left homeless and without property because the dead guy's homophobic family says that he deserves none of it.

>>216135784
Civil unions will cover that. I'm not even a fan of civil unions since I don't wanna normalize homosexuality, but maybe something to throw em a bone.

>>216134875
Well their men and women hate each other, and work-life balance is abyssmal so might as well at least make some groups happy.

>>216134800 (OP)
OP, let me kpop your cherry

I have no problem with that, we have had it for almost 20 years in my cvnt and it wasn't a big deal at the end. You shouldn't put in the same sack all these people, I don't think that a gay/lesbian couple wanting to get married would later get into a so called "sauna" to take parts in unprotected sex orgies.
Of they later want to enjoy divorces, child disputes, etc, it's up to them, I don't think we have s say on this topic.

>>216135830
>Well their men and women hate each other
Lesbians have a part to play in this, dykes stoke hatred between men and women to try and manipulate women to fuck them instead of men.

>>216135755
why are albanians like this

>>216135853
Spain is a Catholic country, the Catholic Church doesn't recognise fag marriage. The fact that Spain allows fag "marriage" is further proof of how much its deteriorated in terms of morality.

>>216135853
(Sorry for my ESL and typos, I shouldn't be posting from a phone)

>>216135883
we got a phoneposter here!

>>216134875
yeah, im those gay guys would have been having loads of kids if they couldn't get married to other guys

>>216135879
the protestant church doesn't recognize fag marriage either.

>>216135879
>>216135937
this is orthodox propaganda

SHAME

>>216135879
>nooo why isnt spain a paragon of virtue and stability like under Franco

>>216134996
truly exclusive homosexual people are quite rare.
traditional notion of marriage is wrapped up in a culture that values raising a family, considers it a given. so in the past those who have done homosexual acts, men and women, would in fact in most cases marry the opposite sex (and largely happily) because the cultural inertia was strong. remaining a bachelor was almost deviant and associated with being a manchild or mentally ill.

>>216135822
You have a point, I guess. I view marriage as more of a religious and symbolic thing at odds with secularism, these days, anyway.

>>216134800 (OP)
>Fourth

Who were the other three? I know Taiwan was one of them

>>216135294
Nah, I was never molested. I got my bisexuality from porn, which I guess one could argue is a kind of molestation.

>>216135858
I don't know if I believe that.

>>216135634
>No reason to list it there
As a mental illness, yeah since it technically isn't a mental illness. It should still be regarded as a paraphilia.

south korea will literally becoming a province of china one day

>>216135988
so gay marriage is more like parading social dysfunction as normal or symptomatic of the wider problem, rather than the root.

>>216136041
Why are "dysfunctional" countries usually successful first world countries valueing individuality while countries seething about fags are utter shitholes?

>>216136106
Lol using that logic I can make the argument that first would countries were at their peak (in terms of economy and cultural influence) when they discriminated against fags.

>>216135784
>then his partner is left homeless and without property because the dead guy's homophobic family says that he deserves none of it.
i'm pretty sure that, even if you don't kick him out, relatives are entitled to some of the inheritance
i'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that inheritance is weird. like if grandpa died, his home would be split 4 ways and my father would have to buy the parts from his brothers to have a whole home

>>216135935
Who'd have imagined that siding with this chap after the civil war would backfire?

>>216135171
>>216135223
>>216135988
>>216136041
I do think many cultures have a bit of an obsession with monogamy and one-true-love-type shit that infected the LGBT community a little bit but seems to be losing prominencr lately. Maybe that will sound like cuck behavior to some of you, but even growing up until now, I never understood the type of obsessive romance peddled in stories.

>>216135252
Religious marriage isn't always the same as as legal marriage. They aren't forcing churces to marry same-sex couples, they simply are giving same-sex couple the same rights given to straight couples. Tax benefits, counting household income as one, inheritance rights, adopting a child together, and so on

>>216136256
>they simply are giving same-sex couple the same rights given to straight couples
No? Homosexuals want extra rights to validate their deviance. We don't give "equal rights" to throuples or cousin fuckers do we?

>>216134800 (OP)
>the fourth in Asia
Who were the first three?

>>216134800 (OP)
Your politicians are being bribed as in the West.

>>216136304
>No?
That's exactly what "same-sex marriage" means tho, putting it on the same level with straight marriage. I don't see where you're getting the "wanting extra rights" thing

>>216135302
Come to canal street and say that cunt

>>216136592
Can't say that in public without the Bobbys locking me away.

>>216136356
Taiwan, Thailand and Nepal

>>216136569
Yeah and my point is I don't see homosexuality as something that warrants equal rights unlike say being black.
>>216136592
Pfffft fudgepacker trying to act tough.

>>216136710
Your point is moot to what I was saying tho, your opinion doesnt matter on the definition of what things are

>>216134800 (OP)
>Let's promote homoshit to make the birth rates even lower
Are you guys going for the "Ethnical extintion any%" speedrun?

>>216136569
>>216136710
>>216136740
And your opinion doesn't either
>homosexuality as something that warrants equal rights unlike say being black
And I haven't heard any real argument for why it should be seen that way that isn't just retarded emotivism.

>>216136776
Mine isn't an opinion, I was replying to the filipino anon asking about what same-sex marriage meant. We were discussing definitions, you were discussing your own PoV, which is irrelevant here

>>216135302
>>216136592
>>216136674
Eh, not all fags diddle kids. I'd wager the vast majority of them don't. That being said, the stuff that leads to homosexuality in someone probably has the potential of instilling pedophilia too, so I'd rather not take the chances and leave kids alone with one.

>>216134875
low birth rates are hetero people's fault. what do homos have to do with that?

>>216135270
Kill yourself faggot, I bet you're the bavarian dicksucker
Go get pozzed by Abdul

>>216136776
All your arguments are just emotivism. Look how you reply all angry

>>216136921
>That meme picture
>That seething text
Thanks from proving my point

>>216136934
My man pretty much every pro gay argument revolves around emotivism and empty slogans
>"Love is love!" (Not even true because we don't apply that logic to bestiality or pedophilia)
>"We just want to be happy!" (An illegal immigrant living in the country also "just wants to be happy", doesn't make illegal immigration right.

>>216136957
You already prove the point that faggots are as annoying as most women but even more repulsive by posting on this website everyday fishing for attention. It's impossible to have any thread about Germany because of you
Go get your hole dilated by a wrecking ball

>>216134800 (OP)
>>216134875
Can boys get pregnant?

>>216137039
I once read a book from the 80s where a counsellor says soemthing about how homosexuals are generally self centered. And while I hate assigning personality traits to people, this feels more and more true with each passing day. Wonder if there is a connection between finding the same gender attractive and emotional narcissism

>>216136981
But thats not the argument except in your head. The argument is that it doesnt conflict with western morality in anyway and contrary to what your retarded hick head says it also doesnt damage society
>>216137039
>seethe seethe seethe
>>216137108
More emotionality
Thanks for proving my point again kek

>>216137170
It's abnormal, seems to be more prone to STDs, drug abuse, anti monnogamy etc and seems to be disproprtionately found in people with terrible home lives.

>>216136981
You dont need a pro gay argument if you believe in fundametal rights of the individual and generally in the principles of a liberal democracy, it is implicit. It is people who are "against the gays" (whatever that means) who are supposed to justify why same sex consenting adults cannot be in a relationship, yet this ""emotivism"" always come from these people who never bring up rational thoughts and try to justify their gut feeling in every way possible because god forbid accepting that you have the possibility to live your life like you want just as much as someone else.

>>216137316
>same sex consenting adults cannot be in a relationship
Barely anyone is arguing this, I don't care if fags fuck in private, the problem is that they want their relationships to have the legitimacy and benefits of a marriage, and they want to raise innocent children in their unnatural households.

>>216137316
The thing is, these arguments are always only made for gays and nobody else. Using your logic, what's the argument against
>Bigamy
>Polyandry
>Certains types of incest
>Relationships between employer and employee
All of these also happen within the realm of consenting adults. Heck, if you really wanna stretch it thin, cannibalism can also fall under the "consenting adults" umbrella.

>>216135302
>i believe neither gays nor lesbians should be allowed to raise children.
Agree and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking retard
A kid needs a paternal and a maternal figure and that's the end of it

>>216136592
You gonna suck him off? lmao

>>216135270
Intelligent people reproduce less and are more miserable. I don't know why you want the world to be worse. Actually I do know why, anyway...

>>216137233
>It's abnormal
Not an argument.
>more prone to STD
They have sex, unlike you
You could use the argument "its abnormal and more likely to cause health harm to yourself" for a shitton of things like extreme sports, eating fast food sometimes, playing video games etc. yet people like you never do. Because you already have decided, before saying anything, that you dont like this.
Your arguments are like that of a child not wanting to eat broccoli.
>>216137316
Truth

>>216137484
>>Bigamy
>>Polyandry
>>Certains types of incest
>>Relationships between employer and employee
>All of these also happen within the realm of consenting adults. Heck, if you really wanna stretch it thin, cannibalism can also fall under the "consenting adults" umbrella.
Call me an idiot, but I also don't see why these things should be illegal, honestly.

>>216137595
>extreme sports, eating fast food sometimes, playing video games
Most people don't do this out of a visceral sense of disgust. It's just fear or a lack of interest.

A better example would be a guy eating sand or rat meat. That's more comparable to homosexuality.

>being straight sucks so much people have to be forced by law to do it otherwise they would all go homo
makes u think

>>216137638
Consent ethics is incomprehensible. If two people agree to do something together, that doesn't make it acceptable to do because society does not consist of two people.

>>216137638
I mean, if all of that stuff was considered acceptable(ish), then sure I'd concede that there wouldn't be a reason to oppose homosexuality. But they aren't.

>>216137725
Yes, you have a point, but what is okay with one society can be not okay to a different society. If a society as a whole says gay is okay, then what is wrong with that?

>>216137691
>disgust
It always boils down to that and thanks for proving my point.
You are, once again, like a kid disgusted by vegetables.
Disgust and emotion is what drives your arguments, nothing else.

>>216137872
funny how you're ignoring my argument>>216137378

>>216137872
Yeah? Because that's the kind of society we live in. My point is, I grew up in a society where if 90 plus something percentage of people can't
stomach engaging in an action, then that action is considered immoral. Like I said about eating sand or eating rodents. As I said here,
>>216137729
>>216137484
if we lived in a society where personal disgust truly wasn't a factor in deciding the morality of certain actions, then alright, homosexuality probably wouldn't be that big of a deal. But we do not, which is why gay acceptance feels hypocritical to me.

As for your argument about kids and vegetables, if broccoli was something the vast, vast majority of people couldn't stomach eating and seemed to give you weird diseases, then I'm sure eating broccoli would be seen as deviant behavior too.

>>216137976
>I dont care what fags do in private
>Said in 99 percent by people who seethe about fags no matter what they do
There also is no argument in your post. Just statements

>>216137870
If the whole society says that all minorities need to be taxed twice as much, what's wrong with that? Just because everyone agrees something is okay does not make it okay.

>>216137989
>disgust and emotion are morality
Kek

>>216137316
Most people don't care if two men remove the crust off of eachother in their bedroom. The problem is when some try to equate homosexuality to heterosexuality and pretend that one should be seen as valid as the other
You need reproduction and a healthy society where that is incentivized, same as forming a family. You can't have that with homosexuality

All of this recent constant promotion of homosexuality and gender identity and that shit is just the culmination of the LGBT movements from the previous century where they just keep asking for more and more and a lot of people aren't having it anymore.

Homosexuality should never be promoted. You can acknowledge it and accept the idea of someone being gay or even accept gay marriage depending on your point of view but that's it. It's should never be treated as equal to heterosexuality and that's where the movement will reach its logical conclusion once all of this LGBTQXXL+V2 shit ends

>>216138002
I think what the britanon means is, "Don't ask, don't tell" should be the unspoken rule when it comes to this kind of stuff.

I'm in the same boat as well. My opinion is that 1998-2002 had the right idea.

>>216138002
if two fags don't raise any children and don't try to firce others to recognise their relationship as a marriage, then I don' care about their relationship.

>>216138141
>blablabla dont force others
Once again, this never happens. You are just basing your argument on feeling like something is forced on you.

>>216138033
I see, but I am confused what your view is, then. If it is not two people that decide what is okay, and it is not a society that decides what is okay, then who decides what is okay?

>>216138214
why the fuck do you think you can read my mind and tell me what actually annoys me or not, when I am literally TELLING you what pisses me off about gays?

Your mindset of "they'll hate us anyway!" is just a lazy excuse to never comprimise and go full force with you attempting to get society to accept your degeneracy, it won't end well for you fags in the long run since you're such a small minority of society.

>>216134800 (OP)
good. i love watching chuds seethe and foam at the mouth

>>216134951
more like WEF global policy

>>216138427
I think you're foaming too but from your butthole

>>216134800 (OP)
the next step is dancing in the streets in leather barely covering clothes while children watch

>>216138214
I agree with the Bong here >>216138321
You are a fucking retard and to think that I post on the same imageboard with you is a such a disappointment. Kill yourself you fucking gay faggot moron

>>216134800 (OP)
I find it crazy it happened before japan

>>216134806
The US legalized gay marriage almost 10 years after Europe did, the feds literally had to force some states to accept it.

>>216135171
So let me understand this. Reproductive technology has advanced to the point where you can have surrogate parents through sperm banks and marriage somehow is an institution we should care about? What do parents even do anymore? Send their kids to school and let media raise them? Completely dead institution, if you try raising kids for labor you get CPS called on you in any country.

>>216134800 (OP)
benis in anus :DDDD

>>216139949
If marriage is dead then why do fags constantly campaign for fag marriage?

>>216137054
Not yet

>>216139999
I don't care about fag marriage, it's an irrelevant institution if surrogacy is that easy now. Population crisis is also fake because you can just pay women to have IVF done and select out elite sperm. Try marrying a woman while being dirt poor with no job, it's not you who prints the money it's state, they're married to state, the age of homesteading and family farms is over.

>>216134800 (OP)
Finally I can marry Korean man. Chuddies can cope

>>216134800 (OP)
Based Taiwan, Nepal and Thailand

>>216139778
Why? Japanese society is very conservative on average

>>216134800 (OP)
>nooo the east is collapsing because people who love each other can be legally married

>>216140394
marriage is a societal agreement, it isn't just between two people, it's two people asking sociey to legitimise their union, it is the government awarding that union with tax breaks and other benefits. Why do fags think they can force the rest of society to recognise their fag relationships as "marriages"?

>>216140512
There's married couples with no kids that also get tax breaks. Maybe they should just axe the tax break entirely and just pay out for kids. Like why is government even getting involved with people like this? It's creepy.

>>216140597
>There's married couples with no kids that also get tax breaks.
less than ideal, but their relationship still has the potential to produce children.
>Like why is government even getting involved with people like this?
Why is the government forcing bakers to bake fag cakes?

>>216140641
Are they forcing bakers to bake cakes? We still have freedom of association here, idk how it is in the UK. Maybe you should get a constitution that prevents government from interfering with things like that.

>>216139999
As I said here >>216135784 property rights and inheritance are a big part of why gay folk want their relationships legitimized.

>>216140722
>property rights and inheritance are a big part of why gay folk want their relationships legitimized.
How about they stop being lazy and just write wills?

>>216134800 (OP)
Grim

>>216135223
>mandated by the state to have to put up with women
bit cruel imo