Thread 216183182

>>216183182 (OP)
african immigration will fix this

>>216183182 (OP)
End stage of socialism and the destruction of the family.
Used to be you supported your elders, now elders want to be supported by the state.

>>216184235
They paid their share ehen they were working. They did their part

>>216184313
actually they didn't, they retired too early in a in a system that was not designed for a 85-year life expectancy

>>216184235
yeah bro damn socialism made bankers take over the money printer

>>216183182 (OP)
yeah
>>216184372
on top of that, some didnt work full time or were not "legally" employed, some worked but stopped for a few years all along their "career", so these dont have their full pensions

>>216184313
>I paid my share when 4 workers supported 1 pensioner, now you gotta pay my share when 1 worker supports 4 pensioners

Simple solution to the "aging population" aspect of this: if you don't raise kids then no pension for you.

>>216184389
Yes. Exaggerated debt burden leads to debt monetization (money printing). And this leads to inflation.

>>216183182 (OP)
Yes? That happens in literally all welfare states.

>>216184539
the problem lies in the way this system was created.
it's a ponzi scheme that will ruin one way or another

>>216184595
*excessive debt burden

>>216184599
we had a good run, norgaybro

>>216183182 (OP)
>eat the rich
pufft
>eat the old

>>216184618
>Love? Parenthood? Watching your child first laugh? Intergenerational community we've had since the dawn of humanity? DUDE... don't you know reproduction is LITERALLY a ponzi scheme? It's like selling sets of shitty kitchen knives or timeshares! It's the same thing!

>>216184313
fuck no they didn't, they retired way earlier than the current age of retirement, they paid less into the state's central retirement fund and they've frankly lived way longer than anyone has expected them, meaning they've took out a lot more than they've contributed.

>>216184539
I can see some form of this eventually being implemented in much of the world but I dont think its gonna be enough. Most of todays elderly lived in times during their working years where fertility rates were well above replacement and there is still a looming funding shortage.

using france as an example their life expectancy in 1960 was about 70 years. now its 83. for a retirement age of 65 you went from paying out 5 years of pension payments to almost 2 decades per person. People simply live way too long and there is no humane way to make this system sustainable

>boomers sucking the life out of a country
to the surprise of no one

>>216185467
You used to have things called poorhouses. Don't have kids to take care of you? Didn't save up enough money to pay your bills? Into the sardine box you go