Thread 216543620

>The oldest hero of my nation is not someone who brilliantly defeated his enemies in a fair fight, but someone who betrayed his superior’s trust by leading him into an ambush.

how do I cope with this?
and does this happen in your country?

Tbf the Romans thought Hannibal was a pussy at first, adopted his tactics, and then were very proud of beating such a clever opponent

>>216543620 (OP)
>but someone who betrayed his superior’s trust by leading him into an ambush.
How could he be his superior if he got led into an ambush and killed?
This post was made by the anti-romonkey clan.

>>216543620 (OP)
https://youtu.be/l2oHOxP-guw?si=FTLqwMZkYvKaoujL

>>216543620 (OP)
He also abandoned his wife and children btw

>>216543728
Superior as in, his chief

>>216543620 (OP)
Why can't you be treacherous towards an enemy who wants to genocide you?

>>216543872
did he go to Australia to buy cigarettes?

>>216543901
Because Varrus probably was a good administrator but not exactly a military genius like Germanicus
>>216543929
Never happened, many southern germans lived just fine as roman clients or friends

>>216543901
>Superior as in, his chief

>>216543620 (OP)
Wars aren't fair.
>>216543728
Based. Let the arrows always rain and the ressuply camals never tire.

>>216543964
1/5 Gauls were murdered or enslaved, Arminius saved his people from the same fate.

>>216544005
CRRAAASSSSSSSSSUUUUUUSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

>>216544109
Eat at a roman villa rustica tonight. Get the garum sauce. Have a cold cerevisia at 4 o’clock in a sacked city. Go somewhere you've been previously stationed at during your time as a roman auxiliary. Kill someone you know has nothing in common with you. Take the patricians women pussy rare. Eat a Dormice. Have an undiluted wine. Have two. Be open to a world where you may fight alongside different tribes within a confederation - but have a drink with them anyways. Rape slowly. Ram the tip of your Framea into the belly of a roman. Check in on your tribe. Check in on yourself. Enjoy the ride.

>>216543620 (OP)
Our first hero is a guy who led an uprising against the Franks and failed and got killed by a treacherous duke

>>216543620 (OP)
Romanticizing someone who stopped his people from being subsumed by the Romans is all well and good, the thing that kills me is that his name in German is fucking Hermann. Hermann the Germann. Negative aura, arminius is far better

Reminder that this giy was a loser and wasn't part of German identity before the 19th century.

Who is your favorite failed anti Roman revolutionary?

>>216545260
what about Hermanicus?
or Arminimann?

>>216545306
>Who is your favorite failed anti Roman revolutionary?
I like Boudica because she's a woman (hot).

>>216543620 (OP)
yes our oldest hero is very similar although he was never a roman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambiorix

>>216543620 (OP)
sounds like washington

>>216545306
zenobia and the palmyrene empire

>>216543620 (OP)
idk why Germans would celebrate Arminius, by the time everything settled down in Europe for good the people' have been shuffled around all over the place, I don't think modern Germans would even be related to him or his peoples
it's like Americans celebrating Columbus

>>216547874
he is literally my grandfather

>>216547995
I believe it.

>>216547874
>it's like Americans celebrating Columbus
they do that thoughbeit

also apparently archaeogenetic research shows that populations in what is now Germany have remained largely continuous since the Iron Age, despite migrations. (thought thanks to relatively recent events this is probably going to change)

>>216543620 (OP)
>greatest German hero
That's Hitler
>HURR DURR AUSTRIAN
Shut the fuck up retard

>>216547995
>tfw have a college professor who claims that Roman von Ungern-Sternberg is his great-granduncle

>>216543620 (OP)
Arminius was raised and trained by the Romans and went on campaign with them in Ilyria. He decided to turn against them because despite how "based" rome was they were brutal, cruel, and fond of rape and slavery and showed it in Ilyria. He felt that eventually they would do the same to the Germans.

Though conflict broke out and the Germans got the worse of it eventually, his actions basically ensured Rome would never have a permanent foothold across the rhine

>>216543620 (OP)
same reason why eastern romans became the byzantine empire, germans ruin historiography

>>216543620 (OP)
the biggest hero of my cunt besides big GUS. is the one that lost half of finland to the hivans

>>216548237
romans never wanted to be across the rhine
arminius just set back relations a little bit but romans already had fedorati tribes, the cherusci was just going to be another fedorati but after the rebellion romans just give up trying to make friends in that region, culminating later in the marcomani wars

>>216548302
>romans never wanted to be across the rhine
Yes they did
Intrusion into Germany was soft power projection

>>216548326
not in a colonization way, because it was too open, they had many chances

>>216548357
The reason Varus was so eager to help and so blind is because he took it as an opportunity to extend roman influence into germany.

>>216548357
the romans werent anyones buddies. Arminius did the right thing

>>216548382
yes and after the loss of the 3 legions they gave up immediately whereas elsewhere they would have continued expanding, the rhine was a natural frontier

Howdy, germanic servants! Check it out, I'm made of gold!
t. Charlemagne

>>216548414
germans eventually came to adopted roman culture, became dux bellorum and finally the power behind the western roman throne, it's a relative

>>216545306
Who cares what christcuck medievals thought? Hermann is the hero of Germans, not Ephrem the Syrian.

>>216543620 (OP)
the egyptians did the same thing the romans tried to do to harminius, the romans however were not only incompetent with it but harminius was cool for not falling for their bullshit and betraying his people because the romans gave him some pussy and gold

I think the romans were civilized and germans were filthy retarded barbarians at that time, but harminius was based and you should be proud of him for not being a cuck, very different from modern germans.

>>216548498
the hell they didnt what have you been smoking

>>216548528
they literally took the customs laws and titles, even language

>>216548528
every barbarian was a romaboo

>>216548597
Here's your latinx supremacy buddy

>>216548686
you'd be using runic letters friendo

>>216548686
>>216548528
I didn't know this factual information makes barbarian cucks seethe

wish dad was still alive so I could share this with him

>>216548415
>they gave up immediately
what about the Germanicus campaigns after the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest?

>>216548898
it was all reactive, the marcomanni was invading roman territory

>>216548898
it was to recover the eagles, just like the antony campaign into parthia

>>216543728
Why he purple

>>216549278
sassanian heavy cav wore purple

>>216543620 (OP)
Why are you such a self hating cuck? Hermann was a hero who loved his people and land he made a sacrifice to keep Germania free from medbug oppression.

>>216543872
He's a hero he did it all for the freedom and independence of the Germanic people's.

>>216543929
This exactly look what the romonkeys did to the Gauls and Britons.
>>216543964
Thousands of them were brutally enslaved not to mention the genocide of the Gauls being within living memory.

>>216545306
>failed
Dumbass he succeeded in keeping Germania independent and free for the coming centuries where was the failure?

>>216550841
>Why are you such a self hating cuck
it comes free with being a goiman in current year

>>216549374
those are parthians (arsacids)
>>216549278
creative assembly deemed it thus. but they're actually pink

Thats what you get for trusting wypipo

>>216543620 (OP)
Killing all three legions was still a lot of hard work.

>>216543620 (OP)
>Noooooooo you should be loyal to the foreigners who literally want to enslave and genocide your people
Christ dude. Germans are cucked beyond saving

>>216551456
That's what you get for trusting the people you are trying to kill.

>>216550898
When Rome came back and raped Germania. The reason Rome didn't annex it was because it was a worthless shithole. Germaninggers need to realize that they were Slav tier before Christianity.