Thread 216677929

>melts after half a mag
>fails to function and falls apart in your hand
why are yuro guns so bad?

>>216677929 (OP)
Europe isn't a country. An AK-74 is more reliable than an M4 and it's a European gun.

>>216678263
>Europe isn't a country.
it is
>An AK-74 is more reliable than an M4
false. seems like everyone is using an M4 and no one's trying to copy the ak-74

>>216677929 (OP)
>Gets sent to the jungle
>Refuses to work

>>216677929 (OP)
europoor guns are designed to look cool in movies/vidya not to be in war

We make love (with your women), not war

>>216678657
they fixed it and that was like a deliberate and intentional sabotage job because some retards wanted to retain the .30 cal and wood guns. Like they changed the powder to one that was dirtier and untested before shipping them out and then shipped them out with no cleaning kits or lube
>>216678725
more like you lost a war to ethiopia in the 20th century and then all your women had sex with the American GIs that occupied rome

>>216678557
Your greatest ally seems to like them Euro guns more than US ones.
>The first Galil rifle was manufactured using RK 62 receivers. Moreover, the Galil design is largely based on the Finnish rifle RK 62 (a derivative of the AK-47).

>>216678846
>i-i-it doesn’t count, they f-f-fixed it postfactum
It it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. If it needs fixin’, then it broke. Simple as.

used by over 90 countries btw

>>216678857
israel never really used tavors or galils in any significant numbers. they just used like enfields, mausers, fals and M16s they got for for free. like even now most jewish soldiers have M16s.
>>216678872
the g36 literally melts after half a mag and hk can't fix it

>>216678883
yeah like fucking argentina, bangladesh and niger.
the FAL is the thirdie gun just like the AKM is the thirdy gun

>>216678910
I’m referring your M4 cope, silly.

>>216677929 (OP)
kys

https://youtu.be/MfPHZFsw40M
https://youtu.be/iTbTyFloelc

>>216678676
Israelis are so full of themselves it's incredible
your weapons are designed to kill toddlers or bomb starving hajis, it has been 50 years since you fought a peer opponnent

>>216678938
the M4 works fine. We've literally been using it for 25 years. they keep trying to replace it every 5 years and the M4 just keeps M4ing

>>216678966
>shoots 2 bullets
>melts
I guess that's why germany hasn't won a war in 150 years and why there's been a foreign army occupying berlin for more years than not

>>216678969
>It works fine
>Yeah it was famously unreliable during the Vietnam war
>So we tinkered with it instead of designing a reliable gun from the first principles
Never happened to the AK platform.

>>216678985
that must be why the US marine corps is using a HK rifle as standard weapon

seems like someone is slightly upset they don't have a monopoly over gun design and manufacturing
>During the Cold War the FAL was adopted by many countries of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), with the notable exception of the United States. It is one of the most widely used rifles in history, having been used by more than 90 countries.[4] It received the title "the right arm of the free world" from its adoption by many countries that identified as part of the free world.[5] It is chambered in 7.62×51mm NATO, although originally designed for the intermediate .280 British.
>A license-built version of the FAL was produced and adopted by the United Kingdom and throughout the Commonwealth as the L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle.
cope and seethe, mutt

>>216679003
the m16 isn't the m4 and the first m16s hade issued due to deliberate army sabotage.
Also the AK had a fuck ton of issues. the russians were using the SKS for years because they couldn't make functioning AKs en masse until like 1960 with the AKM
>>216679020
marines are retarded. they put a bunch of retarded features on the A2
>>216679054
yeah, thirdy gun for thirdies

>>216677929 (OP)
The G36 is fine, the drama leading to it supposedly being phased out now got blown out of proportion due to corruption (von der Leyen acting on behalf of Caracal), and then Caracal didn't even get the contract lol.

>>216678966
>your weapons
they don't even really use their own ones for that, mostly the stuff they get from the Americans for free

>>216679368
>melts in your path in your path

>>216679073
>Also the AK had a fuck ton of issues. the russians were using the SKS for years because they couldn't make functioning AKs en masse until like 1960 with the AKM
the fuck are you smoking lol

>>216678263
>>216678557
no one but the US military is using any M4
it's a US military designation for a specific line of AR-pattern rifles in US military service

it's like when retards call the Beretta 92FS an "M9" in non-US military contexts
even dumber now that it's no longer in US military use

also
the Armalite vs Avtomat Kalashnikova shitflinging is the most yawn-inducing faction war of small arms
both sides are ugly and boring

>>216679808
>if you use a rifle like a SAW, it melts
what a surprise

>>216679817
they literally made SKSs until 1958. everything you think is an AK-47 is probably a type 4 receiver, aka an AKM.
>>216679848
Canada and like denmark or one of those yuro places
>>216679868
if you shoot more than 2 rounds an hour out of a g36 it melts

>>216679879
>if you shoot more than 2 rounds an hour out of a g36 it melts
source?

>>216679879
actually the newest G36 version has a new feature
it melts in advance before even shooting

>>216679879
>they literally made SKSs until 1958
this doesn't mean anything

>everything you think is an AK-47 is probably a type 4 receiver, aka an AKM
this is however true 99.99% of the time with laymen
the 47 existed very briefly as an actual AK-47 anyway and basically no one actually had it in service as an issued rifle before the AKM came along

>>216679848
Beretta 92fs and M9 are separate guns anon.

>>216680024
M9 is the US military designation for the Beretta 92FS, and apparently I was wrong about it not being in use. I thought it had been replaced by now, but I misrembered.

>>216680102
Hasn't it been mostly replaced by nu-Sig pistols that may or may not shoot the people carrying them?

>>216680185
>The U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps are replacing the M9 with the SIG Sauer M17 and M18.
If this means "in the future" or "currently ongoing", we do not know, I guess.

>>216678935
Your neighbor Canada and your other neighbor Mexico operated it.
Australia, the UK and Israel (your greatest ally) too

>>216677929 (OP)
american guns are dogshit

>>216679911
those tests the nazis did on the gun
>>216679920
keke

>>216680235
those are all third world countries and the jews only used them because they were free
>>216680410
try winning a war for once, poland

>>216680822
>those are all third world countries and the jews only used them because they were free
You are a retrad, IMI manufactured them under license.

>>216681171
the jews literally bitched about the FAL and replaced it with the galil (really the m16) asap you gay poor retard

>>216681515
You are trying too hard.
Also goalpost moving
>They were free
>They were shit
>They thought it was so shit that instead of chosing something else they made a clone of it for some reason o algo until we forced them to use our you can tell it's Mattel stuff

>>216681640
fals are so shit argentina got btfo'd of the falklands

>>216677929 (OP)
Israeli guns are way, way worse. I mean the uzi is just retarded i'm going to be for real

>>216683235
Uzis are jewish? No wonder that porch monkeys are so infatuated with those things.

>>216683308
Blacks actually hate jews for some reason. Because they think they are the real jews of the bible and jews are wypipo imposters o algo

>>216677929 (OP)
The greatest EUropean innovation of the 21st century is a bottle cap.

I like guns

>>216683705
>lpvo behind a magnifier?
>elcan behind a eokek

>>216684466
Top is thermal, rh25
Bottom is to shitpost

>>216677929 (OP)
gotta love armchair generals on 4chud

>>216683705
>pic
it's like buying an SUV and saying you like cars

>>216679848
Dude, we literally bought stock M4A1s. stfu

>>216685502
>arm chair generals
Germany hasn't won a war since 1871

>>216683705
I don't really care about them anymore, but if I got a free pick of one, it would be a MP5 as those were fun as fuck to shoot, and would take care of 99.99% of undesirables around here.
>>216685981
Even if you disregard them stomping african rebellions, they were part of the victors in the Boxer "Rebellion".

>>216687830
ARs are weird in that they are cheaper than 9mm guns like the mp5 (even though 9mm is slightly cheaper) and since most 9mm guns (not the mp5) are direct blow back the AR has less felt recoil.

>>216687971
Yeah, but I liked the MP5 better than the 416, so that is what I would like.
How expensive are the non-dogshit conversion kits for 9mm ARs?

>>216677929 (OP)
the FN FAL was pretty good imo, my grandfather always spoke highly of it, same with the hipower but I suppose that pistol is half american

>>216683171
Usonia lost in corea, vietnan, cuba, iraq twice,afghanistan, ear drugs

>>216691760
1st Iraq war and Korea were a victory. We went in to defend nations and succeeded as they are still around. Argentina lost to penguins and to a dead empire with 50 troops right next to their border kek

>>216691879
>1st Iraq war were a victory
They literally just needed help from the whole world, even Russia was your ally.

>>216691929
Not my problem

This rifle gave thirdies generational trauma

>>216687971
>AR has less felt recoil.
DI is absolute garbage and has no redeeming qualities, burgers need to talk about their "feelings" of recoil to justify it.

>>216692111
if it's cheaper, lighter and gets the job done then I don't really see a problem

>>216683705
bad taste

>>216677929 (OP)
mine didnt melt. get you facts straight.

>>216678935
>NATO countries which are first world by definition are actually third world
ok, retard

>>216692191
>cheaper
Is that why your military is buying KAC SR-16s that cost three four times as much as any FN or HK?

>>216693490
might even be five times

>>216692030
The great grandfather would have used this in the first world war. Would be nice to own one

>>216693490
that's a different matter from the bog standard m4's I was talking about

armalites and all their derivatives are fidget rinky dink shaky pieces of shit. literally the mcdonalds of firearms. typical ameriSLOP

>>216693920
literally every western service rifle is an AR18 lol

>>216693959
the countries that matter in europe are using a german rifle and even before then, they used their own designs.
that same model is being used by some agencies here too. it's not a fidgety shaky worthless piece of shit because it's not ameriSLOPPA.
but there are some problems: this country is already fully latinx. the "white" latinx in the military here are chunky short and fat so theyre gonna have a hard time holding the damn thing. its height is half their body length

>>216693823
how? and what does it offer over a scar or 416 that justified the price tag?

>>216694151
The 5.56 scar is trash, anyway arms purchases are political, there's a lot countries consider outside the immediate capabilities of the weapons and seeing as how our country is buck broken by the US (and we'll need a shitload of US aid if Russia attacks) it makes sense

>>216694130
>they used their own designs
the 416 and G36 use an ar 18 gas system. If you wanted to be a hyper autists you could say the G3 ripped off the CETME but, they had guys from Mauser work on it so, I'll give them a pass on that

>You silly Amerimutts you can't possibly comprehend the superiority of the European firearms industry
>Look inside
>It's all just 9mm striker-fired handguns and AR15 derivatives

>>216693920
>>216694130
i always found it funny that us military cared so much about recoil and noob friendly designs since they had a more or less "professional" military and pride themself of being gun guys, while here we have/had conscription and we where just handed a g3 and told to deal with it. and most did. i seen smol blonde girls manhandle that german boomstick like val kilmer in heat not missing a beat.
if anything the g3 doesnt hit as hard as a hunting rifle in the same calible and many have hunted or been to a range shooting them so its not so much of a supprise? its infact a bit less than expected.

>>216694943
They had mass conscription in mind for when the cold war ever went hot, and noob friendly weapons are better to use in stressful combat situations. Anyway these are design criteria that every military uses

>>216694996
yeah i know, g3 is already quite noob friendly but heavy. the real thing is to filter out the lowest iq ones. our conscription didbt focus so hard on that back in the days, if it did at all. i think you do that part better. i have served with some true retards, one managed to fire a life round into the oven inside the tent
>b-b-b but i did as i was told?
>open chamber, check for rounds?
>its clear!
>close bolt, remove mag, click it off
>why did it fire? there was no round there? i just checked?
he was about to get sendt home but they decided he needed a few lessons with a shrink to understand that certain operations MUST be done in a certain order, its not enough to just do it at random. it worked but we then had to hear him speak it out loud every time he did it it since it was the only way he could do it without messing up.

>>216695196
you=i thought you were american