Thread 216740922

Why do zoomers keep going to university if unemployment's inevitable? Also why is declining birth rates is perceived as bad in such high unemployment environment?

>>216740922 (OP)
Because the world measures success in activity not outcome, keep doing something

Ðej kíp gouing bikoz ðæts wat ðej wër tould wud get ðem intu ë gud kërír.
Diklajning bërþ rejts ar bæd rigardlis ëv implojmënt djú tu hau sësajití rikwajërz mor pípël entëring ðë wërkfors ðæn egziting evrí jír bikoz if jú hæv tú mení tejking bët nat këntribjúting it bikëmz ënsëstejnëbl wiþ nat inëf jëngër pípl tu bejsiklí hould evríþing tugeðër.
Sou jú wud ajðër níd mor pípl entëring ðë wërkfors þrú hajër bërþ rejts, mor imigrejšën, rejzing ðí ejdž ëv ritajërmënt; or jú wud níd mor otëmejšën tu afset ðë diklajn.

>>216741122
Unfortunately. That reality check turned me into a proper misanthrope

>>216740922 (OP)
Has AI affected the job market in other countries than USA? I have never heard of anyone getting fired because of AI or even heard any companies talk about reduced hiring because of AI.

>>216740922 (OP)
im in university for law and have a paid internship while my friend who didnt go to uni drives a truck for 60 hours a week
thanks i prefer posting on 4chan at work

I work in aquaculture, it's a horrendously overeducated field. A glut of seasonal workers with four-year degrees spending years scooping fish shit out of tanks fighting over a couple permanent positions. And because they spend years doing low-skill work to get to the top, their degrees are worthless by the time they get there, and they still compete with degree-less people who also put in the time at the bottom with them and are equally as qualified in reality.

>>216741774
It's almost like the higher education industry has become a giant glorified pay-to-play scam.

>>216741504
Yeah of course. Pretty much all english speaking countries are affected. Dinasour boomer countries from europe like Germany are affected the least due to slow technological adoption

>>216741607
Again, european countries are slow to adopt AI. Many of my friends whose graduated from law school have been unemployed for almost 2 years. One of them eventually became receptionist in a hotel and shared it on Linkedin like a flex material. Imagine the situation

>>216742152
>It's almost like the higher education industry has become a giant glorified pay-to-play scam.
Yup, it's been like that since Covid and became worse after January 2023. Nowadays, oxbridge accepts anyone (I'm not exaggerating, they literally accept everyone) as long as you can pay the fees. But again, once you graduate, you'll get unemployed anyways

>>216741504
Very few people are actually being replaced by a robot/machine/code. That's a convenient narrative that the CEOs are using to fire more people to increase revenue and keep le epic green line moving up.

>>216742377
>Very few people are actually being replaced by a robot/machine/code
Maybe in mexico where the only jobs are trading heroine and being a car mechanic

Because not having a college education is even worse

>>216742219
>european countries are slow to adopt AI
lol there simply are no use cases you idiot

Every corporate meeting for the last 3 years is about nothing but finding a way to use the openAI API and here we are

Nothing happened

Predicting the next most likely token != Actual work

It's an auto complete

It's impossible to get a job without a college degree here

>>216742315
It was like that long before Covid.

t. Milennial boomer

>>216742506
That's the worst part about the scam. You're basically forced to play their game.

>>216742506
Not really. You can literally study to become carpenter and get your 6 figure job overnight

>>216742438
They are firing people because they over-hired during pandemic due to low interest rate. Now that the interest rate is higher, it is more expensive to find money, hence the big tech who hired thousands during pandemic is not able to sustain them.

>>216742557
Really? In here, it's the other way around. UK is turned into a cafe economy after Thatcher and only existing jobs are elderly care and bartending. But these jobs will immediately reject you due to "overqualification" if they ever find out that you have a uni degree

>>216742506
Nothing wrong with not having a degree. The issue is midwits with your mentality have nothing else going for them in their worthless life. That’s why they go to these institutions promising them something at the end, that may or may not guaranteed by then.
All the tech craze is showing is that there’s a lot of useless ‘floating’ people in society.

>>216740922 (OP)
I understand, zoomers need to form gangs of Red Guards and rob, rape and kill boomers.

>>216742617
Do you even remotely know what you'll be dealing with?
I work in a warehouse doing data stuff and the people that actually work there are beyond retarded. Imagine having to sit next to one in some van all day long.
Not to mention your overseers, the planner and the HR cunt still out earn you after telling you to put in an extra shift in Friday afternoon (they clocked out the day before)

>>216743297
True

I'm usually a few years early with my observations, but this will happen

>>216742219
In Denmark everything is digitalized. We also have lots of IT companies and I know plenty of people who work with software design and development. None of these companies have replaced any workers with AI. The technology is not even ready for that to happen yet even if they wanted to. But most likely they don't want to because if AI increase productivity they will simply take on more work rather than let go of their workers.

>>216742506
>>216743228
I know people from highschool with below average intelligence who grinded a college degree by the time they were 30 which they consider both their most valuable possession, their greatest achievement and their #1 defining factor.

Now imagine them being in charge of hiring someone

>>216742377
They fire more people because you can do more in the same time while being capped on how much you can produce by raw materials and consumers' spending power being eaten by inflation

>>216743397
>both their 1, 2 and 3
>both

Are you one of them?

>>216743538
I've added the last one later on.

>>216743343
>doing data stuff
You're one lucky bastard to still having a desk job

>>216743377
I think because europe's more regulated and they value humans rather thsn profit of the company. Mercedes is also a giant union for example. Countries like UK and US is the exact opposite of what europe stands for

>>216742617
>>216743397
Compare a high school graduate average education to someone with a degree than come back to me

>>216743521
>They fire more people because you can do more
I think the UK and US is trying to implement asian style 996 work culture. I hope Europe will never follow the same path

>>216742219
Law is a meme degree here, probably a similar situation of too many lawyers, or your friend is a lazy cunt.
>>216742540
>It's an auto complete
Midwit soundbite but it sounds like you're looking for problem for your solution so midwit company unsurprisingly. your jobs are likely bullshit as it is, most of them are.

>>216743649
In Uni, they teach you some stuff and when you start to look for jobs after you graduate, you realize that the stuff that thry teach you in uni is already being done by various of software and simulation tools (e.g. LLMs, autocad, proteus, KiCad, etc.). Employers won't ask you to find the average voltage at the end of an RLC circuit. You will use a simulation tool to find it out and employer will just ask you to get the shit done

>>216743805
I think there are way too many lawyers here. My friends were constantly networking non-stop since the beginning of uni. None of them got any real job at the end becuase none of our families had any nepotism connections

>>216743805
>looking for problem for your solution
Really????! It's almost as if that is what I just fucking said you idiot

>>216743974
Yeah. I did a semester of law school here and the first thing one of the teachers told us was that most of us were going to be unemployed, at least they were honest. Too many degrees are useless and saturated, i don't think there's anything wrong with going to school because you simply want to but you should be realistic about the job prospects at least, and do it for yourself, not other people.

>>216744438
Well I mean, at least you can perform your job as self employed lawyer. In engineering, you're completely dependent on companies

>>216742540
>Predicting the next most likely token != Actual work
Because you outdated dinasour europeans are not looking into agentic stuff. LLMs are replacing people in technologically advanced countries like UK and the US

>>216745428
What jobs are AI proof in perpetuity? Lawyers, doctors, computer science maybe

>>216745621
Homecare and bartending

>>216746311
I think doctors will survive, any job with a state mandated professional certification will survive, lawyers as well, pilots etc.

because if you don't you are even less employable than those with degrees

>>216740922 (OP)
as if anyone is going to hire this

>>216743377
The amount of work they can take on depends on how much demand there is and if all IT companies use the AI-effectivization to take on more work there won't be nearly enough demand, layoffs are inevitable.

>>216742506
It really depends honestly. When you think of a college degree as a signal of intelligence and work ethic, you can work out that there may be other ways to signal such behaviors.

I think a lot of degrees actually signal the opposite of competence. Film degrees and English Literature degrees signal "lazy cunt that just wants to play with toys instead of having a job". I do think the reason you see these people flounder career wise is because of that.

>>216746894
>Gen Z stare
Thats just some dude looking at something
I cant keep up with these new retarded terms and slang

>>216740922 (OP)
>Why do zoomers keep going to university if unemployment's inevitable?
I got a comfy engineering job out of going to uni.
>Also why is declining birth rates is perceived as bad in such high unemployment environment?
Because without higher birthrate the goverment is going to put us into to gulags to work 100 hours a week to finance boomer pensions.
>>216741504
Outsourcing has a far bigger impact than AI even in the US.

>>216740922 (OP)
That curve rise is just muh remote jobs that inevitably got slashed. We live in an absolutely retarded timeline where the economy got turned on its head because a bunch of geriatrics in power got afraid of getting the coof and tanked the economy out of cowardice. Memento mori.

>>216741122
What an idiotic take. So, you tell me the world respects plumbers more than trust fund babies? The Russian oligarchs did not work a single day, they bribed, killed and kidnapped their way to wealth, yet the Europoors and Americans lick their assholes once those oligarchs come to chill on their yachts and spend money in London, Paris, Monaco. In the end, what matters is whether you have the status and means, not what you did to achieve them. An unemployed son of a billionaire with 0 education will always command more respect than the most hard-working offshore oil field worker

>>216740922 (OP)
Looks like it had an unnatural spike during covid, you fucking retard.

>>216747781
Did I mention physical activity, activity here is implicit, if you're a gorillionaire who are obviously more "active" in the economics sense than a plumber, mega corporations employ foids for email jobs that draw six figures, that's activity, bureauscats invent regulations, then form committees to discuss those regulations, that's activity, GDP, the great economy metric, measures economic activity

zoomgroids are never going to work again

>>216747781
>An unemployed son of a billionaire with 0 education
They get private tutoring, then buy a degree or go to business school as mentioned previously. What you're describing doesn't really exist.

i didn’t get rehired after my internship ended
now i just go to uni 2 times a week and neet for the other 5

>>216740922 (OP)
Remember that the S&P 500 is VERY highly valued at the moment and a lot of people are saying that it has the characteristics of a serious bubble

>>216741504
For human translators, yes.
>In a new survey by the trade union DIK, 36 percent of translators now say that AI has made it more difficult to get jobs and assignments. Almost half, 46 percent, also say that salaries are being squeezed.
>The survey also shows that one in three has now changed, or is considering changing, their career path.
https://www.svt.se/kultur/ny-studie-en-av-tre-oversattare-tappar-jobb-till-ai

>>216748289
The translators have been getting squeezed for decades by now. In late 00s-early 10s there were Russians on 2ch that were working doing freelance translations but the thing died off by mid 10s, today you can't hope for much even with Chinese

>>216740922 (OP)
What other option is there? Start a shrimp farm?

>>216748874
Remember to do it in a backyard pool. I honestly worry about AI killing all jobs so bad that subsistence farming will be a thing again

>>216748846
True, but now they are declining very rapidly. Within just a couple of years they will at best only work with correcting AI translations.

>>216748255
It's simply the tech corporations flooding the market with the billions they stashed away to avoid paying taxes in the last decade. Drumpft recently let them bring the billions home and now they're using them to self fellate over their technofeudal wet dream

>>216746570
Not at all. They literally flag you as "overqualified" if you ever dare to get a degree

>>216740922 (OP)
Because the university wage premium, while has declined, still very much exists for young graduates.

20-24 year olds with degrees make more money than those without, and this is despite the 20-24 year olds spending 4 years in university rather than the workforce. This will probably continue to rise as they get older, unless you believe everything Sam Altman tells you and think AI is going to be good enough to eat the entire economy in the next few years.

>>216747680
>Because without higher birthrate the goverment is going to put us into to gulags to work 100 hours a week to finance boomer pensions.
But in order to being put into 100 hour work week, first therr shpuld be jobs right? But people literally cannot find a job even after applying 500 jobs IMO

>>216740922 (OP)
>Why do zoomers keep going to university if unemployment's inevitable?
because they think they'll be able to have sex there

>>216752010
But again, you need to land a job in order to benefit from such salaries, which most people can't nowadays,especially after 2023

>>216752423
I had 5 sexual partners through my entire life, apart from hookers and I literally found all of them outside of uni environment

>>216752423
Compared to workplaces, gyms, dance courses or public transport, it's actually way harder to get girls in uni for majority of males

>>216740922 (OP)
Because I want to go to a university. Learning is fun.

>>216748255
the sp500 is very highly valued 80% of the time, that's why people buy stocks because they go up