Are there any Japanese elf enjoyers that hate the way elves are depicted in Japanese media?

>>49529026 (OP)
Like what?

>>49529410
long eared humans that exist to either get raped or be waifubait/cocksleeves for human cock

>>49529421
I don't like that, but I don't dislike it either. Elf rape good, waifu elves good, seen some good elf/human romances in my time.
The problem arises when that's all there is, and when it exists at the expense of elves actually being competent and cool. Which is where we're at, unfortunately.

>>49529026 (OP)
This sounds like it would suit /tg/ better... But to answer shortly, the way term "elf" became amorphous in both eastern and western fantasy media makes me care little about any perceived slight to elves. Anything is called "elf" this days and you want to be purist against Japanese media in particular? At the same time, older works, like Record of Lodoss War, have fine depiction of elves for me.

I fucking hate elves!

for a long time it felt like elf just meant deedlit with the serial number filed off. she was almost rei level of being reused everywhere.

Around elves, neck yourselves

>>49529445
Elf rape good
Waifu elves good
Homare's waifu elves getting raped best

KNIFE-EARS!

>>49529492
>you want to be purist against Japanese media in particular?
I dont, but the last thing i read was a japanese fantasy setting so I just thought to post here and keeping it just /jp/ related.
i think most japanese elves are just deedlit expies, like >>49530797 said.
But i was just wondering since theres a lot of fantasy fans in japan maybe some elf enjoyers don't like how most of their settings dont really do them well other than them being long eared humans with magic and trees and shit.
i will admit this freely though, i am a tolkien fanboy but i dont try to proselyte everywhere and im not here to argue since im basically a tourist here

Space elf.

the absence of male elves interacting with female elves in anime and manga is an atrocity

Human female knights > elves

>>49533054
i agree, there's something super sexy about these women because they have confidence that other characters dont have.

>>49533039
Goblin Slayer had a pretty nice elf wedding.
Goblin Slayer is surprisingly good at elves in general, really. Not that it has very good competition, mind you.

>>49533054
As rapebait? That's the vibe I get from your picture.

>>49533075
She is about to be wifed.

>>49533054
Uooohhhh female almost-hag knight rape.
:cry: leave her pregnant now she has to beg on the street to survive
Uohhhhh no one's going to hire her and she dies while her kid grows up as a miscreant in an orphanage

>>49533054

YE KNIFEEARED CONSANGUINE RAPED TWATS HAVE NO HONOR! NO RESPECT! NO BEER!

>>49533192
https://youtu.be/P45BGYqfNDs

>>49533070
Helps that the author based the series on D&D. Love that the high elves in particular is almost a fae, like the archer in their group being able to "ask" a tree to supply her with arrows.

>>49533755
is tit true that dnd and tolkien was never popular in japan and they get most of their fantasy tropes from ultima and lodoss war?

>>49529026 (OP)
Did some shitty dive into some forums with my shitty Japanese:
Probably at least one. I've seen complaints about sexy lewd elves instead of more dignified one's like Deedlit, some dislike for the long Japanese elf ears. But they didn't seem hateful.
But most things I get are people talking about westerners reaction to "this is not a real elf" which they had with Frieren and Marcille, and most people being fine with nip elves and with elves having different interpretations.
Also some posts saying that elf protags tend to be loner oddballs of their species.
idk, might try searching again tomorrow, but I don't know really where a nip would rant about elves.

>>49533809
I think it's mostly it's Japan picking stuff from early D&D and some games. Lodoss War was a D&D campain turned into a story iirc. Some other games like Wizardry serve as inspirations.
Dog Kobolds are an example, in early D&D they had some dog features and in Wizardry they are basically canine humanoids.
Pig orcs is another of those early D&D things.

Dungeon Meshi for example has dogbolds and porks.
Zelda also has the evil pigs. But Zelda is funny since it has a male "elf" protag, but for some reason no one decided to follow it. But in Zelda Hylian are pretty much just human with pointy ears(they where magical but most lost it over time iirc) and the Kokiri would be more elf-like but small.

I guess even if elves appear as some normal race here and there in games, but outside of that not that much...
I also think that they might have a different view on elves since they are less familiar with fairy tales, tabletops and Tolkien and get most of their rpg inspiration from vidya.

>>49529492
Pointy ears + magic affinity is what it mostly is reduced to I guess.
But yeah practically any creature from European folklore has the fairy tale version and the D&D/Warhammer/modern fantary version with some other settings making their own versions here and there.

>>49534677
>idk, might try searching again tomorrow, but I don't know really where a nip would rant about elves.
check if there's any tolkien communities. Ill try looking too. but im using chatgpt to translate lol

>I also think that they might have a different view on elves since they are less familiar with fairy tales, tabletops and Tolkien and get most of their rpg inspiration from vidya.
hmmmm i see, well its interesting how their landscape was formed by such different influences than in the west.

>>49529026 (OP)
I really hate elves in general.

>>49538779
Could you tell me why? Is it because of porn or bad depictions of them in media or because you don't like the idea behind them/fae stuff in general?

>>49534677
>westerners reaction to "this is not a real elf" which they had with Frieren and Marcille
Can you elaborate on this any? Are the japs saying they aren't real elves?

>>49542583
I mean someone was praising races in Oblivion saying the world should learn from it.... But yeah when it comes to real(RPG) elves I guess you have the graceful Tolkien ones and the TRPG cheeckbone snobby elves... Those two already have some distinctions.

They don't really seem to mind much, some do say that with elf they think of Legolas or that they prefer tLoTR elves but most seem fine with it or not express anything negative about animu elves.
Some pointing out that elves joining the party tend to be weirdoes and "elf like elves" stay isolated in the woods (like in Goblin Slayer)
They say other things like:
-It's fiction / everyone can do what they want with their setting, elves are sometimes literally plant people in western stuff.
-Some post wanting more cool slit eye elves instead of roundeyed moeblobs.
-Legolas is this "dignified connected to nature" fella, but elves in the Silmarillion...
-Folklore elves are also different from WRPG elves, even some people talking about old writings of elf their connection to goblins, fairies and illness and so on
-Some "Where did elf pointy ears come from?" discussion + did japan invent the horizontal long ass ears
--Guess otaku/nerds exist all around the world...

Also some mocking in one post that said "elves are supposed to be dignified and gracious but they aren't" with things like Harry Potter and some other games where elf look less dignified with pics like the adoring fan from oblivion.
Some post also don't seem to like those less "dignified" WRPG elves as well as the dangerous and goblind/fae folk elves.

More mocking when it comes to the personality of the elves like:
-And all Chinese people make noodles and do kung-fu
-They talk about diversity in the west but they can't have elves behaving differently

Some mocking the concept of "real elf":
-Real for a fictional concept?
-Aren't "real elves" ugly magical creatures
-When are you gonna show me this "real elf" you're talking about
-Vulkan aliens are hard to find
-You have real elves in the West? How lucky

There where some:
-Why are they always women? (someone answering because you just consume porn)
-Why always blonde?
-Elves should be slim like in Lodoss (Some even saying that Pirotess having tits is weird)
-Someone insulting someone who said "Nah Japanese are fine, with big tits"
But they didn't seem like complains/hateful (Any nuance is probs lost to my shit-tier Japanese)


Also I guess I got called out while lurking as their equivalent of an ESL "People that aren't fluent with words seem to like this topic" maybe I spend too much time on this

>>49538732
>check if there's any tolkien communities
Not a bad idea. Might try this next time, but still have shitty Japanese so don't expect much from me.

>>49545065
>Also I guess I got called out while lurking as their equivalent of an ESL "People that aren't fluent with words seem to like this topic" maybe I spend too much time on this
lol did you make a thread on 2chor something?

>>49545065
>as their equivalent of an ESL
What's your native language, anyway?

>lol did you make a thread on 2chor something?
Nah not that just lurking in a thread and some post saying that, I found it funny since it felt like someone saying the thread was full of JSL.
>What's your native language, anyway?
Has my writing degraded that much?
Funny that the ESL I added as an afterthought gained more attention than anything else...

I still have to seek for Tolkien but I might have found some posts like what OP seeks... I think:
-Japanese elves have been sullied by the ero industry and twisted them into something else.
-In the first place elves have barely any emotions and great mental strength. They do not cry nor yell. Nor do they have massive tits
-People mistake Japanese elves for original elves. But they lost their nobility and got stupid and donkey eared
-If pointy ears make you an elf then Mr. Spock is an elf
-What is a real elf? Tolkien's vision <<answer: Yes that's right
-The original setting is important. Did you never get disappointed a secondary work being completely different to the original
-Japanese people that alter the western culture as they please aren't qualified to complain about Assasins Creed(the thread got a bit into samurai/ninja portrayal in the West and such)

Also a dwarf post:
-Dwaves are completely knock-offs, especially females that are beardless and just lolis

Not really as much complaining as we have here, but it kind of exist in some anonymous posts written in Japanese.

And some people saying nips made the beautiful elves (or at least absurdly long horizontal eared elves) and that most elves in WRPG/TRPG looked ugly as heck.
Someone responding that LoTR already had the beautiful elves.
But yeah, people asking why Bethesda makes them so ugly as well as early D&D
And also people saying that it's funny that people say that with the different elves in settings like Runequest (someone was sad about Runequest vidya not getting translated) so some say that anime elves seem closer to those "Gracious/Elegant elves" that those.

Some people saying that Berserk is technically closer to the original "folkclore elves" as well as the dark elf from FF4.
Someone saying that Nip elves don't tend to be as arrogant, noble and isolationists in Anime, but it felt more like a post trying to explain why gaijin didn't like the erufu.
Also The Dark Crystal might had influenced Lodoss for the long ass(heh) ears.
And some talk about there being an era of elf and fairy being very similar in Japanese media, Link being called sometimes fairy in the past and such.

>>49549812
>But yeah, people asking why Bethesda makes them so ugly as well as early D&D
I can answer this from a TES lore perspective, the reason is just because of artstyle. ESO has some good looking elves, its just the character creators bethesda uses are very hit or miss. Skyrim's only looked good because it fit the grim setting.

>but it felt more like a post trying to explain why gaijin didn't like the erufu.
to attempt to put into words my complex feelings:
me personally, i just feel sometimes very put off when people that are very clearly inspired not by real history and folklore, or even books games and other fantasy settings, but ero doujin and porn of all things write a setting, it's like they start with a horrendous bastardization and take it even further, so the tropes their playing with aren't even coming from something of substance, just porn and other media inspired by porn.
(Im only going to use tolkien and TES as my examples because im most familiar with them) When you look at elves from LOTR or TES, you see a people with a history, a cosmology, a place in the world, they represent something so they have a reason to not just be humans.
If you have japanese examples that do the same, PLEASE TELL ME, because I will eat it up and I will probably love it just as much as I love those two settings, but as of now, i literally haven't even seen any. When i think of Japanese elves, I think of the doujins i've read where elves are getting raped by goblins or humans or orcs. TES and LOTR play with these themes here and there but if it's brought up its either not important as in LOTR, or is something related to the past and how elves didnt and still kind of dont see men as worthy of moral consideration in TES. There's a purpose behind it and it's to benefit the narrative.
And you know what? That's me automatically giving the benefit of the doubt to those two. Because the porn stigma isnt there. When I read that Frieren knockoff manga with the male high elf guy, there's a part early on where a bunch of female elves get raped and, despite that manga's setting being pretty well done and not having the same horrid depiction of elves (namely the main character being an elf himself is a plus), it still made me extremely irritated because it reminded me of a similar scene from the Drifters anime the historical isekai where a bunch of elves are led by some IRL historical figures to save a bunch of elf women and it shows them getting raped too, and my disdain for that bled into the other manga despite them being NOTHING alike and the former's manga having a lot less problems that a lot of these japanese fantasy settings with waifu porn elves have.

Anyway, I dont even know why i posted all this, i have a lot of really complicated feelings that for some reason i feel very strongly about. I dont even know why this elf irks me so much that I made a thread about it, it's just fantasy media its all fake anyway and I barely even know how to put all these feelings into words so if whatever I wrote sounds completely incoherent or whiny or stupid, i understand. I dont quite know how to really turn this into an argument anyway, it's still just a feeling i have and im still wrapping my head around it.

thanks for doing all this sleuthing. it's interesting how these guys managed to help me get at least some sort of coherent complaint of my own, especially these guys:
>-Japanese elves have been sullied by the ero industry and twisted them into something else.
>-In the first place elves have barely any emotions and great mental strength. They do not cry nor yell. Nor do they have massive tits
>-The original setting is important. Did you never get disappointed a secondary work being completely different to the original

do let us know if you see any tolkien or even elder scrolls forums or anything, that might inch us closer to what we might be looking for.

>>49550178
Also, i just want to make clear: I don't dabble a lot in western fantasy, that probably renders a lot of what I said here completely moot because there's probably just as much dumb porny bullshit in the totality of the western fantasy market too with regards to elves, so I dont know. Actually, this is why i was hesitant to actually click the submit button after I wrote that giant word wall. because I could just not be noticing all the western settings that are just as bad, but whatever man.

Maybe I should be the change I want to see but I still suck at writing.

>>49549812
>(the thread got a bit into samurai/ninja portrayal in the West
I always laugh whenever Japanese say anything about ninja in the west. West didn't invent Naruto or Taimanin. Ninja just means guy in pajamas with throwing stars or martial artist samurai.

>>49553365
not really, it's a bit more than that. think of it like magic performing alchemists in our own history that wrote books upon books of magic that basically was just them fleecing the kings that were paying them (roger bacon for example). It's a myth about spies saboteurs and assassins that sort of got amalgamated but also sort of really did exist, and there really were ninja schools in japanese history.

>>49550178
>>49550186
>Anyway, I dont even know why i posted all this, i have a lot of really complicated feelings that for some reason i feel very strongly about.
Well actually I'm glad you posted your rant, maybe I'm exaggerating but I feel a bit moved. I feel like you don't usually seem this sort of honest dislike towards a topic. No my opinion is objectively right, no blatant hipocrisy, no baiting. Not hate for hate's sake and what feels like some honest feelings.
I sadly think that "memes" and porn have somehow fused in a nasty way in media and it also crawls into almost anything.

>If you have japanese examples that do the same, PLEASE TELL ME
Sadly I'm not very familiar with any, I've started Dungeon Meshi and it doesn't seem wrong(idk maybe I get my expectations crushed afterwards, but the author made a pic of WRPG at least so they might be less echi).
The first two elves you see are oddballs, but things might start going more into how elf society is, which I think is a big problem with these "Japanese elves" that mostly they seem to be "this character is an elf" and that's it. They don't explore the society at all.
Them making elves in modern settings also might remove that part of a fantasy world. I haven't watched Edomae Elf but it looks like just moeblob.
Dungeon Meshi having Japanese stuff like a samurai and such might feel a bit out of place just like some people feel the Kung-Fu monk of D&D to be an out of place class. And it also seems to be more comedic(at leas the beggining) so maybe it isn't what your looking for.

Someone also said in the comments that Goblin Slayer feels like older media so elves are different... So maybe the answer is in older media is key, but I'll have to add that to my ever growing list of stuff to read and watch..
>>-Japanese elves have been sullied by the ero industry and twisted them into something else.
That sentence also had something that might translate into "...but kids these days don't know", which I left out due to not being sure... So maybe old ones might be better idk I'll have to actually check Lodoss and see older stuff, although some eroge are pretty old and there seems to be a lot of bikini armor in old Japanese Western fantasy stuff.

> Drifters anime the historical isekai where a bunch of elves are led by some IRL historical figures to save a bunch of elf women and it shows them getting raped too
That's a wild line I didn't expect to read, but also wants me to say sasuga Kouta Hirano, sonsidering his pre-Hellsing stuff...
At least in the rape scenario elves aren't inherently lewd, but a consequence of having le pretty race and might somehow serve as a way to express the defilement of nature/holy things and such.... Still probably just porn meme in most cases tho. If rape is a no-no for you guess Goblin Slayer won't do, even if they don't just go for elves.

> Frieren knockoff manga with the male high elf guy,
A bit curious about the name... But on the other hand I haven't even read Frieren. Also, does Frieren have a good representation on elves in your opinion?

>When i think of Japanese elves, I think of the doujins i've read where elves....
Yeah, people love spamming thatstuff. I'm sure a lot of anons in /tg/ are pissed of elf discussion derailing into that or waifuing.
Hope you somehow manage to separate those ideas a bit tho... Or read less rape doujins like that (if you haven't stopped already) if the ideas bleed into non-porn.

>Maybe I should be the change I want to see but I still suck at writing.
You can always try, but start small I would say, Can't really give much advice on that though.
Even Tolkien started with the Hobbit being a book for kids.

>thanks for doing all this sleuthing.
Your welcome, I haven't found much time to keep looking up things, but hopefully I'll have more time this weekend.
I fear that most of the time the message of what "real elves" are in the west gets a bit lost sadly with stuff like them talking about political correctness, looks and such, so I the message might not reach them properly when they see "West angry about Japanese elves"

>>49553365
Hard to tell how hypocritical they were being but there seemed to be complains about when they claim to be historical/realistic ones but I didn't dabble to much into it. Some say it's fine since they also portray Japanese stuff wrong, others say that both complain about each other and that's just how things are and so on... But most seem to think that fantasy should be whatever the author wants.
Hystorical stuff is also complicated and a lot of things get mystified so it's hard. But yeah, there's probs some absurd opinions about X only being bad when the west does it.
Still ninjas afaik followed more the merging with the crowd approach most of the times just like real life spies and rogues and also have a martial arts movie/game vs the historical counterpart. Just like fantasy stuff have their own traits that differs from (recreations of) historical stuff.

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>>49560971
Yeah, thanks I guess. I don't actually seek out the elf porn, so it helps. Ive been reading lotr again so thats also changing my mind.
Ill check out some of the reccs you dropped here.
>A bit curious about the name... But on the other hand I haven't even read Frieren. Also, does Frieren have a good representation on elves in your opinion?
Tensei Shite High Elf ni Narimashitaga, Slow Life wa 120-nen de Akimashita
I would say Frieren is relatively good in that regard, given that the passage of time is actually important and the long life = honed skills is also a big bonus. Not much porny bullshit, also a plus. the Good vs Evil with the Demons being ontologicaly evil is something most japanese settings dont really do much and it's very tolkieneque.
ill give goblin slayer a go though. seems okay despite the goblin rape.

>>49529026 (OP)
I hate elves altogether. I hate Humans, But Better elves. I hate pompous, racist elves. I hate live-a-million-years-but-don't-reproduce-elves. I hate magic god elves. I hate forest psycho archer elves. I don't like elves-are-essentially-female-orcs elves in porn either, but overtly horny elves are kinda funny.(pic related) The only positive thing I have felt about them is that they shouldn't be considered monstergirls, but after reading this thread I am glad they are monstergirls and associated with that degeneracy now. I also like that transitory period where people mocked the elf beauty idea with androgynous elves and saying there's no difference between male and female ones appearance wise(sort of like the more extreme depictions of dwarfs). That kinda decayed when elves became huge titted in general.

I don't feel strongly about long pointy horizontal ears and don't really get why people are mad about them. All pointy ears are dumb. The only good "pointed" ears are the small rounded tip ones like the Disgaea characters have. I think going to the side looks marginally better than being pointy and upright though. People with big ears stick out to the side like in op. I like when they have lewd clothing, either overtly showing off the body or just being perceived as lewd because of cultural differences of the viewer. I feel if anything they should be more wild nature spirit like and not inclined to wear clothes and uninhibited their sexuality.(without being nymphos)

There's not much reason to have elves interact with non-elves except to show how much better they are or to show how much they think they are better. Naturally, this makes them seem like a race of assholes and so their comeuppance comes naturally to creators. Also, fuck Tolkien.

Found some Elder Scrolls thread archive:
https://oblivion.z49.org
With a lot of mod talk and the usual discussions of "but nip elf is closer to Tolkien than TES", origins of elf, "are only Japanese elves like that?", "Japanese elves are just people with pointy ears" and so on.
But also this thread with some funny discussion:
https://oblivion.z49.org/logs/skyrim_main/1342402255.html.gz
In a nutshell in a crappy thing between transliteration and translation by a dekinai:
83: Lodoss Island was precious, Deedlit was so beautiful, but then the high elves in TES looking like aliens and being crazy... ID:9Ke3DCa8

87 ID:6zAz/dmV:
In the name of the Night Mother and Sithis, fools and madmen like >>83 should be killed. Hail Sithis!
No use for horizontal eared hentai elves! No use for perverted phony elves !

108: Sometimes LOTR fundamentalist don't allow anything that differs from that view so they won't accept Japanese elves. They won't listen to anything so it's best to ignore them. Each setting has their own rules for races D:TziJKGDR

110 ID:6zAz/dmV:
>>108 You're in a TES thread right only recognizing Japanese elves without knowing about TES and a fundamentalist that insists on TES elves being crazy
You're the scum that just covers it's ears and says "Aaah I can't hear you" whenever circumstances are bad for you.
You've played too many eroge with the preconception that an elf is just a hentai beauty

114 Even if you ignore this, TES isn't Japanese. If you prefer Japanese elves wouldn't you enjoy it more if you just play those JRPG with nothing but Japanese elves?ID:QCSixiLX
119: Japanese elves are closer to the original elves. In Christian countries elves were treated the same as demons so I get why they became like that. ID:qsctM30B
122: I have the impression that elves are beautiful, silent forest residents with bows, daggers and magic ID:NTbWY5yt
124: >>122 They aren't skilled in fighting but I also have a similar notion of them ID:qsctM30B

128: High elves are beautiful by high elf standards ID:dn22cjDd
132: Kill all Japanese elves! ID:8FhbIYZe
134: These guys might go mad if I bring up Runequest elves or dwarves... ID:PZx7pWux

142 ID:6zAz/dmV:
>>119 Japanese Elves are the forest loving Bosmer type, but for some reason treated as high elves.
But TES elves are TES elves. Other elves are unrelated
>>122
This is a TES thread, don't be mistaken. If you want to talk about Japanese elves go to a different thread or a Japanese elf mod thread.
There are a lot of Japanese elf loves that just make elf mods in the Oblivion thread, so go there.


So at least some hate for Japanese elves by Japanese in a 2012 thread I guess.
I think the raging stops after that and they keep talking on mods translation fix patches and so on
Maybe I'll try LOTR forums latter but I've only found a few Tolkien related threads here and there on different topics and my weekend got busy out of nowhere.

>>49529026 (OP)
You don't "love elves", you literally have an ear fetish

What is so great about LotR elves that people jack themselves off over them and say other elves aren't real elves?

>>49529026 (OP)
I have been chasing the high of how elves were depicted in The Silmarillion ever since I read that in high school.

>>49574539
>jack themselves off
Your choice of words is very telling, anon.

>>49574539
>>49574567
I just came by to say that without checking to see if LotR was mentioned. I like them because many of them are vengeful retards with some of their strongest people basically being shonen characters. Everything Legolas did in the movies seems completely within the realm of possibilities for an elf after seeing what they get up to in the Silmarillion. Aside from that, they are also really melodramatic which I think is fun.

I don't think less of elves from other media though. They are still usually my favorite fantasy race.

JP elves are just anime humans with pointy ears. They have exactly the same role as cock sluts. Basically "elf" in JP media is shorthand for coomer characters. This is completely standard and not debated by anyone.

>>49568787
you are the exact opposite of me bro
>>49570147
>132: Kill all Japanese elves! ID:8FhbIYZe
heh
like these reactions. LOTR fundamentalists is insane btw LMAO
The great thing about skyrim is you can mod all the elves to look like japanese elves if you so choose so yeh
>>49574539
Ill try to explain but basically Elves in LOTR just have a love for life in them. They're super unique and have a vast history and a purpose for existing that nothing else I've read or watched have (this is a small list though).
They're just super cool and their very gentle but super forbearing attitude they have in the books and movies are just so cool especially considering their extremely bloodthirsty past and their long memories, as well as all the skills they've accumulated.
Basically, this quora answer is why I love LOTR elves: https://qr.ae/pADKqn (This is just some random guy whose answer I liked, not me, obviously, lol). They're also insanely overpowered and can act as real boss battles, and like the other guy said, some of them are literal shounen action heroes like Fingolfin or Legolas.
>>49574615
i mean im not arguing with you but that is the overall impression i get despite major japanese works featuring elves not explicitly even doing this.

>>49574584
>many of them are vengeful retards with some of their strongest people basically being shonen characters
yeah especially in the sillmarillion. they're all bloodthirsty retards. Kind of puts into perspective why they were so quiet and introspective in LOTR.

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>>49582059
No life lesson like seeing your collective antics literally sink your once great kingdoms beneath the waves.

>>49529026 (OP)
>Are there any Japanese elf enjoyers that hate the way elves are depicted in Japanese media?
No. I like all elves equally.

>>49596451
Even the Warcraft ones?

Someone linked an artist on the jay once that did a lot of art showing female elves as desperate as fuck and unable to get laid no matter how hard they try.

>>49596635
Were they japanese or non japanese

>>49596792
I don't remember. It looked western but I think the text was in nip.

>>49596635
From the top of my head of artists that do the "pervert elf and innocent orc" schtick I can think of baalbuddy (western), tomokichi and mugenjin (japanese). The last two have whole manga series about the concept

>>49596956
I was assuming >>49596956 meant bb or mugenjin, which is why I asked about the nationality.

>>49596956
I was assuming >>49596919 meant bb or mugenjin, which is why I asked about the nationality. Of course the answer was unclear.

>>49596956
Tomokichi I think.

>>49596956
>>49596994

Now that I look it was definitely bb_(baalbuddy). Going through the art on the booru that is it. Now seeing them in English as opposed to what was linked before it all makes sense.

>>49596635

So are fantasy isekai protags always killed by trucks because of the Isuzu Elf?

>>49529421
Stop watching/reading garbage. It's that simple.

>>49613479
the problem is so many people read that garbage and the garbage's interpretation becomes the mainstream in a medium

>>49613610
>mainstream in a medium
Any non-garbage example from medium will use even such degraded representation of elves in non-garbage manner. At most you are risking that no good writer will use elves at all due to connotations.

>>49621753
i mean yeah i guess so i see your point but still the well's already been poisoned.

>>49529026 (OP)
Pretty much. The only time I like it is in porn.

>>49529026 (OP)
No, I think Japanese elves are great. A lot of my favorite elves are Japanese.
I'm also fond of Korean elves, but that's a story for another board.

>>49633451
Hylians are just long eared humans though

>>49532839
Space Elf.

>>49637078
is she supposed to look like that or is the art just weird?

>>49643178
That's how Eldar are described as looking like in the lore, although this is also a very old art piece which skews things a bit.

>>49643216
Im sorry are we referring to the Eldar from Middle Earth or 40k?
The term reusage gets confusing.

>>49643381
40k

>>49529026 (OP)
>[

>>49643381
Tolkien Elves are pretty, like Japaness elves
40k and Elder srolls have the weird eyes.
D&D is a sort of mix between both.
Then Warcraft has Lodoss elves with their long as ears but decided to also make those long eyebrows.

But that's just looks.

>>49633451
Are Korean elves even any different from Japanese elves?