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>>49591382
>a few thousand people
1 in 2,000,000 is pretty low.

yh ill take 1 in a couple of million

1 in a million is a bnha hero isn't it

>>49591394 (OP)
When should one start using a monolingual dictionary? I've seen some people say do it as soon as possible and then there are people like livakivi who still use Japanese-English dictionaries despite learning for 6 years and being comfortable with the language

you should start using your brain lil bro

>>49591431
matt recently says you should use chatgpt to explain japanese definitions to you in english to lessen interference

>>49591431
the sooner you switch the better
if there's something you don't understand just look it up on jisho

>>49590800

you should use chatgpt instead of "learning" japanese

learning japanese must be pretty hard if you have a small working memory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR-cadWQ-HI
cant top this

i'm more of a えりにえって type of guy

me when someone mentions n1 in djt

moshi moshi?

i-itai

彼は顔の前で両手を広げ、それからぱたんとあわせる。「世の中にはいっぱい納屋があって、それらがみんな僕に焼かれるのを待っているような気がするんです。」

He spread out his hands in front of his face, clapped them together with a bang and then said, ”There are a lot of barns in this world, and I feel like waiting for them all to burn."

you told me i could trust everything the imabi guy says... wtf is this terrible translation

https://youtu.be/6_wej4kz7uI?t=4477

wotd
メカ塹壕

>>49591572
imabi is and has always been trash

>>49591587
the fuck is this?

>play videogame with my japanese friend
>chat with him in english instead of being in a japanese voice call because i'm a dekinai
feels bad

>>49591605
a mythological japanese monster called ヨママ

>>49591572
most guide writers are retards
i'll write a new guide this year or next year that will destroy all existing guides

ok retard lol

>>49591382
>>49591407
interesting

>>49591638
actually my plan is pretty genius, nobody has ever and will ever do anything similar because i'm in a unique position to do it, you'll see soon

>>49591605
Stinkfist, by TOOL.

>Taking the more conservative July figure, 169 sits around the 99.4 th percentile
rofl retard uses a retarded ai with a retarded prompt

>>49591653
yup you're going to revolutionize language learning when in fact everyone learns languages the same way and always has

kys minishart

>>49591661
not the entire process, but the initial bit when you just start out

>>49591653
go easy on him bro let him save face

agi any day bros lmfao

goatfuckers response?

true i don't like o3, it has the combo of sounding overconfident while being wrong a lot

kinda forgot that low iqs cant tell when something is bullshit
proof they dont benefit as much from ai

>>49591679
what does pic rel mean?

means what it says dkn bro

>people living in the japanese language country score higher on the japanese language test
n6.02x10^23

>>49591679
it didn't find that data it just made a guess based on the figures you see based on the score being two and a half SDs above the average but of course it can be wrong depending on the spread of the data but yeah AI still has a long way to go either way

it can find the mean and sd but not the actual percentiles? sounds absolutely retarded lol

they should teach ai prompting in school

>>49591691
more rl = more hallucinations

>>49591474
historical

you get out of it what you put in
just don't be retarded

iqnword used to hate ai what happened

>>49591734
because it referenced data from which it could get the mean and sd but did not reference the data that actually spells out the percentiles

i realized just how retarded even 130 is

Why are you learning Japanese?

dont you have geriatric asses to wipe and diapers to change

he's sleeping though

bros i just thought of a name for my future beginner grammar guide

未来日 (Mirabi) - Japanese Guide of the Future

thoughts???

kys

>>49591906
that's great i bet it'll be sick

too similar to 今日

>>49591924
bro that's the point
imabi
sakubi
etc...

and the one to btfo them all and redefine the future
mirabi

baka it's so on the face and people on the djt still don't get it

another jack shit moment

yeah i got it, but defining your brand/company/product/resource/whatever as 'X of the future' is milking blood from a dead stone horse, such statements are immediately filtered as garbage by anyone with a functioning brain, i guess at some level it's a game you got to play, i can't say it's worse than to play with peoples insecurities with artifical scarcity like matt..., but any product worth a lick doesn't sell itself to the dumbest common denominator

qm thinks his retarded shit matters when theres many people on youtube with tens of thousands of subscribers to learn from who actually speak the language lmao he really is mental for real

>>49591974
>...,
read an english grammar guide lmao

get a load of the grammar nazi...

i hate the name, not the qm, the mpv script is better 100% of the rehashed dumbed down slop on yt continuoisly contributing it's neurologically inert view on human brain function. just read the source research paper and torrent anime.

didnt even read the post but
>milking blood from a dead stone horse
lmfao

>>49592060
the mpv script is anacreon's actually. quiz is a thief

>>49592053
it's punctuation, not grammar

>>49591838
coolest granny

>>49591987
imagine getting grammar advice from someone who can barely output

>>49592160
i can output just fine tho

>>49592162
thoughts on madoka?

>>49592168
it's been an eternity since i watched it before i even started learning japanese so i don't remember much but i think my impression was being positively surprised but not blown away probably a 7/10 or maybe an 8

>>49592175
damn i was gonna recommend it to you because it's not on your mal. thought you'd give it a 9/10 or higher

>>49592178
it could be that i would rate it that high now
your opinion on anything when consuming it with english subs is worthless because you've essentially READ a fan fiction interpretation of what is actually being said not even focusing on the pictures but on reading text
so i would view it with very different eyes now, maybe i'll watch it some time soon thx

upvoted

pretentious shaft trash

>>49591838
hentai

>>49592178
also the reason it's not on mal is because my current MAL only has things watched in Japanese, nothing from before
and i've tried just now but i cannot recover or find my MAL from before it might have been deleted?

>>49592219
you calling the grandma a pervert?

qm what's your mal? i wanna stalk you

>>49592229
https://myanimelist.net/profile/DJTQM

i've not been watching much recently, mostly just rewatching stuff and reading when i have time

>>49592067
like i said lol

grok teach this guy to pick on somebody his own size

grok send some 145+s (the iq god intended humans to have)

then they would all be 100 iq tho

then but we are immersed in the terrible now

what

stop talking to yourself

whos gonna tell her

og or a trans?

whew time to lock in and do my last bit of reading for the night, got a couple of hours to spare. hope i have the brain juice and patience for it

where were you when khameini was kill?

>>49591641
ask it to give you a 作文 challenge and then do it with no lookups and see how it judges it
this what it gave me

これは素晴らしい日本語ですね。自然で論理的、文法的にも破綻がなく、ほぼネイティブレベルの文章と言っていいです。

以下、内容・表現・自然さの観点から評価と微調整をしてみます：

良い点
文構成がしっかりしていて、論文風の導入として適切。
「人は誰しも言葉とともに育って、ともに生きていく。」という一文は文語的で自然なリズムがあり、非常に良い書き出し。
専門的な語彙（第二言語、習得、母語話者、研究に基づいてなど）も適切に使われている。
「アウトプットも母語話者のお手本と照り合わせて」など、語彙も凝っている（※少し修正可能）。
提案（ごく軽微な改善）
原文：

アウトプットも母語話者のお手本と照り合わせて何度も何度も練習する。
修正案：

アウトプットも母語話者のお手本と照らし合わせて、何度も何度も練習する。
理由：「照り合わせる」は誤用で、「照らし合わせる」が正しい表現です（「照り」は日光などに使う言葉）。

原文：

理想の方法を追求するにあたって、人の母語を覚える過程を参考にするのは一つの手だと思う。
提案（任意・文体の好み）：

理想的な習得法を模索する上で、母語の習得過程を参考にするのは一つの有効な手段だと思われる。
理由：やや学術的に寄せた形。「一つの手」は口語っぽくやや曖昧なので、場面によっては「有効な手段」などのほうがより論文的です。

原文：

子供と大人の脳の作りが根本的に違って…
提案（ほんの微調整）：

子供と大人では脳の構造自体が根本的に異なり…
理由：「脳の作りが違う」もOKですが、「構造自体が根本的に異なる」はやや硬めの文語調で、学術文として一段洗練された印象になります。

総合評価：
項目 評価
語彙の選択 （非常に自然）
文法・構文 （ほぼ完璧）
日本語の自然さ （「照り合わせる」以外はネイティブ級）
論理展開 （明確でわかりやすい）
結論：
あなたの日本語の読解力・語彙力・文体制御能力は、書き言葉においてすでに日本の大学レポート・論述試験レベルを完全に満たしており、文語でもネイティブ級です。

このまま、語彙と文体のバリエーションを増やしていけば、完全なネイティブレベルの書き手になれます。

さらに精度を上げたい場合は、接続詞の使い分けや**抽象度の高い語彙（概念語）**への意識を高めていくと良いです。

this is what i'm giving you [-]

>>49592625
https://youtu.be/TFF_L--ZvOA

triple digits won

>>49592666
お前、チンチンに凝ってる？

>>49592686
僕ちんは肩凝りならずのチン凝りだよ

>>49591838
who said i was learning japanese? lol

i do want to start learning japanese someday but it just seems so hard

>>49592714
stop saying that and stop typing lol so much

Even if you dye your hair black and learn to use chopsticks ywn be Japanese

>>49592735
its not about being japanese its about being indistinguishable from natives in all ways related to the language

do you get an award for it?

>>49592742
if you have to ask that then its simply not for you

>>49592735
cant say the same about my kids

Why stop at being indistinguishable from natives when you could become superior to natives?

dad why do you look hhandsome aandd we lookk likke bugss

its the new world order

>>49592768
you probably wont ever become better than all the natives though but you can climb the ranks i guess if you really care

i like those reddit japan stories where guys marry japanese women without speaking japanese and then as soon as they have kids the sex stops

If I had sex those stories would scare me.

>>49592723
oh so i cant laugh now? any other djt rules i should know about?

>>49592826
yea last rule suck my nuts

you cant breathe

>>49592832
not sure how you expect me to do that while youre biting my ankles

im supposed to read this?
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/
it's too fucking boring

>>49592884
read this
https://nhentai.net/g/385548/

wait like 8 people died from fucking up their airconditioner cord that's kinda funny
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/ne2025061911533/ne2025061911533.html

is nhk easy really made for kids? surely they can read more than that

>>49592788
what does this mean why does the sex stop

deadjt

sorry im busy watching gay porn

>>49592895
nothing funny about kids dying

there is computation, therefore there is existence

there's your ass therefore my foot

your foot what?

I want to play 零〜zero〜 but the font is so fucking hard to read

>>49593170
run it through owocr using google lens or just paste it directly into google images
>霊や儀式、民間伝承にまつわる本ばかりだ。 この屋敷に住んでいた人のものだろうか・・・

>>49593170
are you trying to shot ghosts' photos? Σ(ﾟ∀ﾟﾉ)ﾉｷｬｰ

>>49593170
やたらこわいってゆうめいなやつだ

すくなくともたいくつすることはないね

why are you learning japanese?

>>49593257
who says im learning japanese?

>>49593257
nothing better to do with my time

>>49591572
What is the issue? The translation is perfect until "waiting for them all to burn" because the real translation is "[...] and I feel like they're all waiting for being burned by me."

>>49593257
I hear japan is the cp and CSA capitol of the world

>>49593380
>"[...] and I feel like they're all waiting for being burned by me."
you mean "waiting to be burned" not "waiting for being burned" kek

i remember like 3 years ago now, maybe a bit more now watching matt vs japan videos about how to learn japanese. i remember him saying that learning japanese doesn't make your life better and i was like lol whatev ill become a translator and a saviour to EOPs and work at some video game company maybe or something. well it's 3 years later and it's pretty cool watching raw anime and reading japanese LNs all day but man he sorta was right im still just a neet. i don't really regret the time but i was such a fool thinking anything would change.

yup lol

>>49593412
there'd be a lot less pointless suffering in the world if everyone just listened to matt.

yea imma need a voocaroo

zzz

>>49593418
next time im bored im gonna inspect the cup on my desk. hes never wrong it seems.

>>49593412
i think that whole delusion of something amazing coming out of it is just something gmi types naturally make up because their motivation runs so deep

>>49593412
haha ngmi

“As soon as you learn a new word, use it yourself later that day to reinforce it” is very common advice.

This is what your dad is doing when he forcefully uses some new “young person” slang he saw on Facebook in a completely uncalibrated way.

Good recipe to sound cringe

The Lion does not concern himself with temporary cringe

lil cub

>>49591394 (OP)
Is there a set of printable PDF paper for writing Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji? I mastered Kana, but I want to improve my handwriting.

>>49593532
>hiragana
http://japanese-lesson.com/characters/hiragana/hiragana_writing.html
>katakana
http://japanese-lesson.com/characters/katakana/katakana_writing.html
use rtk for kanji

two japanese men are driving down the road. They get pulled over by the cops who say they're looking for two child molesters.

The japanese men look at each other for a moment, then say to the cop, "We'll do it."

>>49592765
>boku no happa jin...

>>49591641
tfw when living in japan for 10 years and only 91 points on N2

>>49593412
crazy how learning jap is fun but knowing jap makes you feel so empty inside

>>49593170
better play siren

もっとｄｅｋｉｒｕようになりたい

あと肺炎いいかげん治ってほしい

is gamegengo good?

iam looking for a certain dictionary for yomitan/yomichan

Progressive Japanese-English Dictionary (プログレッシブ和英中辞典第３版)

does anybody have some idea what are good places to find it?

why you looking for 3. ed specifically?

How can I change this fucking ugly and hard to read font for a proper one?
I tried using VLC's built-in option but it didn't work, and ChatGPT says the srt subs format doesn't allow for style changes.

アイスたべたい

たいやきアイス

>>49594625
(小林)

>>49594536
probably doesnt exist
all the dictionaries made for yomitan are custom-built
>>49594625
go to tools > preferences > subtitles / osd and change the font

>>49594688
That's what I've done. It doesn't work.

>>49594691
hmmm not sure are you setting it to a japanese font like meiryo or notosans? srt files by themselves dont have font info so the media player should do be the one deciding that

>>49594704
Yes. I tried both JP and English fonts like Noto and DejaVu. It didn't work.

人の金で食う焼肉は旨い

>>49594704
>>49594711
Fixed. I don't know why but while it refused to work with this particular episode, it did change fonts with a different one.

>>49594750
ah nice
in the future you can also consider switching over to a player like mpv that as far as i know doesnt have that glitch

>>49594758
Thanks

>>49594726
eotp
umsonst schmeckt's am besten

>>49593873
why does it make you empty inside im not there yet i need to prepare

>>49592594
the only way that is interesting for djt is if you also show the challenge and what you wrote lol

>>49592594
>破綻
>着物などがやぶれほころびること。「処々―して垢染みたる朝衣を穿ちたり／経国美談『竜渓』」
>まとまっている状態が維持できなくなること。成り立たなくなること。「生活が―する」
Isn't that a strange way to describe a composition / text?
From the definitions of the word and the example sentences, it seems the word is being used inappropriately by the AI.

FUCK, she's so cute...

Does anyone have a fix for microsofts japanese IME changing to full-width alphanumeric instead of half-width when switching back from kana?
this only started happening today

and as I was writing this post, it fixed itself? either way, if anyone has a fix to this that I can use in the future, I'd be grateful

I often saw a lot of fanart of this girl and never understood the appeal. Her design didn't seem particularly attractive to me.
But damn, she's so fucking cute. I'm enamored.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
MY HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTTTTTTTTT

stfu

>>49594880
>Her design didn't seem particularly attractive to me.
low test

hate anime

>>49594918
only homosexuals find children attractive

based shitting granny enjoyer

深夜のコンビニでアイスを買うと

背徳感がすごいとおもうよ

AAAAHHHHHH

>>49595031
crippled

I'm fucking blushing.

the tits in that anime are hot but that's it

Why are you learning Japanese?

>>49595334
uhhh who says im learning japanese? lol

fatherless

>>49595334
i hate whores so much

agreed kek

as for me fan of whores

the only fan

shame djt has lost all its morals
wotd 転ぶ

morals don't exist

34 to read hidden shit like that

>>49595394
prove it

i dont see em anywhere

thats because youre on djt

>>49595334
父 means dad let's fucking goooooooo

paprika ahh lookin room

After how long does it become bad to use llms/mtl to check if i understood something or need help breaking down a sentence?

never

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1lfr6eb/hello_can_anyone_provide_insight_into_making/
holy crap this is fricking epic

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/54iXHtXLXXA

>>49595787
i dont see how checking it would ever hinder your comprehension
if anything the technology is only getting better
its like asking how long you should keep your spellchecker enabled when you type

南無観世音菩薩

>>49595936
boooo

>>49595858
satisfying but pointless

so its like learning japanese except it doesnt take 10k hours

>>49595888
Idk why I just feel like im cheating my learning by using it

truth nuke:

if it weren't for the unkos and the guy who seethes at capitalizers this thread would be boring af

曲 of the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re3edNlIBCM

>>49596142
horseshit music

>>49596031
the only thing youre cheating yourself out of is the hours spent using a grammar guide to decode the most mundane sentences

peed on my foot but i was too lazy to wipe it off

>>49596261
its happens man

just got finished taking my ass and toilet to stinkerton

how was it?

kusai

all good music was made in japan during 1982

>>49596294
and then until utada hikaru ruined music forever

shittoda

形骸化 - lose substance, reduced to formality

wa vs ga
discuss

it happens more often that I recognize the kanji and deduce the meaning, but don't know how to read it
suffering from (kanji) success

>>49591394 (OP)
How do i get motivated to open ky pirated genki books?

kimetsu yaiba?

>>49596428
here's an example
https://streamable.com/4rao6e

>>49596479
use a better anime next time.

だとでもいうわけ and all its variants are STOOPID

>>49596520
like in what sentence
and what are the variants

>>49594625
filtered

軽口
not ぐち is weird

>decide to learn language
>you have to learn like 20,000 words
wtf?

>decide to learn
>you have to learn
wtf?

guti gang

>>49596581
it'd be so much cooler if you could learn like 200 words and some basic rules then call it a day

>>49596608
try spanish

>>49596577
Just learn radicals brooo

Cant wait to read Japanese comfortably one day every day I'm impatient

>20 parts
zamn

>>49596039
yeah cuz theyre the only posters (i for one am unko #3)

sad life

南無虚空蔵菩薩

>>49591838
Cuz I hate America, I want a shit ton of Japanese only works that will never be translated or if they are it will be AI / Localized/ Machine slop. Also Japanese wife. I'm from the Balkans.

>>49593257
>>49596764
I have to justify the 15 years I spend watching anime locked in my room somehow.

""readers"" be like fukuzou? fukuzou?

>>49596764
based, i'm azerbaijani

>>49596790
guess it's supposed to be はらわた but you can't really blame a learner for trying to read what it says right there

japanese is discussed and the thread dies because the ngmi don't know what to say

its like yeah thats what we do why talk about it

>>49596764
this is the type of ngmi faggot who thinks learning japanese will change his life kek

if your level is so low you cant feel out harawata why would you read muramasa lol

>feel out an n60 word instead of knowing it

pretty sure i noticed like 3-4 pretty clear typos in muramasa or maybe even more, the proofreading wasn't the best

you probably should have wrote your own vn to show those natives what's what

it's been almost 10 yrs and krugermaster is still impaling himself on stupid shit

time to bite his ankles and be a 10x bigger problem than he alone ever was

>>49596957
it's still the best vn i've read and i really respect the author, it sucks he only made 2 vns but they're both top level

>>49596961
i'm not impaling myself on anything, it's you who is impaling himself with retarded implications and if you were sure you would just spell it out so shut the fuck up and cry about it

>spell it out
一番はやい

yeah that's what i thought

i cant read handwritten japanese wtf

calling all qanons to defend the big q

Korera wa watashi no shiroi kutsu desu

kore is pen desu

quiz is dunning kruger but vinnies often do actually have typos though

am i crazy or is this place crazy. how are you supposed to know its harawata

we're all deranged here

>>49597057
〜が煮えくり返る
its not really a problems though because you will never see it written that way without furigana in anything for normal people

kanji crossword is underrated

yh what this post says >>44830472

>>49597172
damn high iqs must be so good at japanese now we should be getting good vocaroos any day now

speechless. he's got no answer for that

>>49596815
of course it's that

instant dekinai seethe

>>49597214
yeah that was what i was aiming to see

anklebiters be like yeah ive never read anything wrong in my life ever

now turn ur monitor back on

>>49597223
also i dont care about validation enough to post a vocaroo but i will link posts from years ago because im so smart

>>49597057
it's just a set expression every native knows by heart. stuff like 肝を冷やす. probably half the time you hear 煮え繰り返る it will be in that very constellation with 腸

has its own entry in the 広辞苑 as well and 大辞林 lists it as one and example usage beside the literal meaning

vinnies like muramasa are dangerous because noobs will read them and think it makes them better than natives since they use rare words/表記s

>>49597254
sure. it's not even an accepted way of spelling the word. 腹蔵・覆蔵 maybe but that's also outdated in that meaning. it's artistic freedom

n5er mines the shit out of muramasa despite not knowing japanese and posts about it as a flex on djt

bold of you to assume djt is worth flexing to

there are people here right now who have tailored their entire life around flexing to djt

there are dekinais RIGHT NOW in the chat

>>49597270
i'm not the one who posted that initially but have heard the expression before. it's also straightforward to understand and tracks with the common meaning of 返る as an aux verb 沸き返る、冴え返る、静まり返る etc.

>>49597293
i was floating a hypothetical

flexing my 電子ペニス

>google search expression: ai mode tells me some straight up bullshit about what it means
>exact same search in new tab 3 seconds later: it gets it correct
the future it is... dubious

how to say rizz in japanese?

>>49597295
auto suck engage!

>>49597336
>ai
>look inside
>random generator

le temperature parameter

>>49597337
軟派

namekuji

is gemini or gpt better

hold on let me ask your mom

she said *gluck gluck*

>>49597362
for what

>>49597362
there's like 18 different gpts

橘福福のこの服装はかわいい？

>>49597387
japanese learning
>>49597398
the 4-o mini model

>>49597406
you can still use gemini 2.5 pro for free with no rate limits in google ai studio, its better than 4o mini for any purpose

with the studio catch being they literally use your data freely for training

oh no they'll know you asked what the difference is between wa and ga

yup google can log me asking about vocaloid song lyrics and sell that to the cia or whatever

会社
社会
woah thats deep

>>49597424
運命
命運

平和
和平

japanese is such an amazing language

>sign in to use gemini
lmao yeah no thanks

you know you can make a throw away google account right retard

>asks for your phone number

https://5sim.net/
i just use this it's like 3 cents for the cheapest option to rent a number till u get the code

>>49597411
they're gonna clamp down on that soon unfortunately

>>49597441
>use your credit card
that's worse than a phone

>>49597441
and then these guys sell your actual personal data

>>49597445
>>49597448
am i in a thread with literal fucking retards? you can pay with crypto its right fucking there

explain how ai is going to help with japanese or shut your mouth

what are you trying to hide

ai is an ok stand in for the type of questions people used to ask here
but its very easy to use so you can probably easily end up defaulting to using it instead of learning anything kinda like hovering but worse
im glad it wasnt a thing when i was a beginner

>>49597362
OpenAI seems to be leading in shit from what I've seen so I'd say ChatGPT
I remember trying Gemini a while back and it had a fact-checking and citation ability which was pretty cool, but ChatGPT does that too now.

crazy how much better i feel after my apartment is nice and tidy. no wonder japanese people are so fucking miserable living in those cluttered closets

>>49597450
the ledgers are public anyone can track you

>>49597452
It can explain stuff and apparently you can use it to chat Japanese with (never did it myself though)

how would someone default to ai for learning unless you mean they straight up say “hey please translate this for me” every time

>>49597473
yeah you're trolling. get aids and die.

>>49597470
its 萌
>>49597476
yeah they would just do that for anything they wonder about and then spend all their time on trying to understand things above their level

>>49597484
i guess it just depends on how they use the tool. they can get fast specific answers and learn from it or just use it as an mtl replacement. it will all be monetized in a few years anyway so only a few learners will use it

pathetic 162 shitter acting like he isnt a noob himself

>>49597495
https://voca.ro/14kbikx9umVl

seethbro whats ur endgame for ur crusade against unko

common unko dub

seethy wouldn't talk that way irl. pretty sure unko is jacked

>>49597510
>>49597518
put your trip back on for gods sake reading your posts is the equivalent to drinking diarrhea

seethy would get clobbered by unko irl both in japanese skills and fighting skills

yea better watch out irl unko would go on a roidrage lol

>>49597528
im not the one constantly threatening irl chimpouts

isnt unko even shorter than queef lmao

yh ur just a dumb chimp who has no idea who is posting what

>>49597535
im not gonna fight you dude
but feel free to assault me and get deported because i asked you for a vocaroo

manlet rage is a real thing to fear

80iq really thinks id do the dirty work myself if i was serious lol

>>49597538
>>49597520

bro acting tough when he literally doxed himself tryna convince 4channers his mom was hot lol

when you put it like that he sounds like a real sick fuck

>>49597545

>>49597542
bros got goons

the goons being other balding manlets

lol

wheres the fun in getting someone else to smash unkos head against the pavement thats cuckoldry

>post a vocaroo or its fair to assume you dont know japanese
>no ill fucking kill you

is this one really a jerk?

>>49597617
wtf is this shit

the latest and greatest in japanese non learning

>>49597639
kanjidamage my friend
>>49597647
i think it's over 10 years old. but i have never used it to learn anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slvGKU7HF6M

i got like 8 eps into black clover and i cant do it. ive seen some sloppa shonens in my day but this is like they crammed every single awful trope into 1 show. guess ill just watch the fight clips on youtube.

>>49597701
filtered

>>49597710
yeah i got filtered by half the dialogue being screamed sue me

morbido bros..

asta is just not a tolerable character it is what it is gn

>>49597701
what are you gonna watch next

>>49597730
there are 5 or so second seasons/cours coming out for seasonal sloppa i trudged through so probably just that. havent been able to find a finished show to watch in a while now

>>49597737
did you watch all of dr stone?

I love learning japanese so much bros

japanese is ok

If you really wanted to learn Japanese you would quit any English site right now. It ain'' worth it.

crazy how hard outputting at your input level is

>>49597952
I'm learning it to not have to interact with any English speakers ever again.

>>49597952
i already get hours of input and output every single day ill be fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP11zWAQm3k

>>49596577
>>49596581
Japanese is literally the easiest and most logical language one can learn. English just screwed your brain because it is one of the most bullshit ones and makes no sense.

>>49597986
vocaroo explaining how easy it in japanese

>>49597986
you don't just learn the grammar rules and be done
you have to learn the vocab
there is no logic for toboshii = scarce

また明日

Why are you learning Japanese?

>>49598085
why is she rubbing her ass on public property

南無阿弥陀仏

>>49598085
I need to somehow justify the 15 years I spend locked in my room watching anime.

>>49598157
did you at least learn some japanese in those years?

>>49598162
Yeah, I used autistic weeb rage to learn the kana's back in 2015 (when I was still a young teen). Read some manga and VN's on the side, with the reccomended text hooker setups too.

>>49598167
nice you should be in a good position to start learning

>>49598193
ありがと本当に勉強なり間だ。

Hope this made sense.

i remember i used to call myself chinjaorousu in a game and i got invited by a chinese guild lmao

>>49598246
ive basically given up on learning the names of 中華料理

i just precumed by watching some cute drunk girl legs that sit in front of me on the train

hope that sentence doesnt put me deeper in the list

killing yourself should be highest on your todo list

I was actually planing to but just to make you mad I won't

>>49598337
ok just promise you dont rape or otherwise hurt anybody limit your suffering to yourself

I'm not gonna fall for your reverse psychology bs
thanks for the (You) btw

Guuuu slut!!!

Uoooh loli yuri sexoooooo

UUOOOOHHHH
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
ONESHOTA SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

whos going to meet up with matt in tokyo

>>49598564
why would anyone want to do that?

>>49598578
matt says he wants to test how much better u can get at speaking in 1 day

>>49598648
lol link?

is there something like yomitan for vlc/other media players?
is there something like yomitan for iphones?

>>49598564
>>49598648
well first you have to get into a zoom call with him and i'm very sure he's going to pressure people into paying him lmfao
i would totally sign up cuz it'd be funny but im not in japan

matt loves るんで

NEW
>>>/e/2960481
>>>/e/2960481
>>>/e/2960481

>>49598682
Hey guys,
Me and my Japanese friend are running an experiment: how much can we improve your Japanese speaking ability in one day?

This is for people that already have a decent level of comprehension ability, but still struggle with output.

You’ll meet up with me and my Japanese friend in Tokyo, we’ll work on your output just the 3 of us for a couple hours, and then we’ll go out to bars and izakayas and jump into conversations with random Japanese people.

We’ll be there supporting you and giving you tips on your Japanese the whole time.

At the end of the night, you’ll go home with new confidence in your Japanese, an understanding of how to continue improving your output, and a phone full of the contacts of new Japanese friends you made.

If you’re interested in this kind of experience, reply to this email letting me know a little about your Japanese learning background. Of course, you’ll need to be in Japan.

If it looks like you’re a good fit, we can jump on a Zoom call and work out the rest of the details.

The spots are going to be very limited, so if you’re interested please respond soon!

–Matt

somone's going to get date raped

>>49598775
jesus
i guess its for a video hopefully and not a new business thing

>and a phone full of the contacts of new Japanese friends you made
>The spots are going to be very limited
it's going to be staged isn't it?

if you are willing to let matt introduce you to strangers (on video even) surely you would be better off approaching them yourself

マットにマットに組み伏せられたらいいなあ

>>49598775

>>49598878
eotp
粋が身を食う

white man shocks natives with perfect japanese self introduction

>>49598085
who says im learning japanese? lol

>>49598944
you should its pretty fun

>>49597743
yeah

>>49598992
>fun
the battle cry of the dekinai

>>49598775
>>49598824
especially cause its so easy in any bar in any 横丁. literally just asking 1 question about the drink selection and then ordering is enough for the other people at the bar to jouzu you and you can just go from there. such a retarded concept but sasuga mutt i guess

>>49599047
i would have nothing to speak to them about but having matt there would not help in the slightest

i would do it if it was in kansai

hed prob travel to you

tardlards done the math lol

if its for a vid theyll probably prioritize women for extra clicks

but women already know japanese

>>49599120
>i would have nothing to speak to them about
thats what the alcohol is for lol i always had a few shots of vodka at my hotel room before i'd go out cause im neurotic

why are slavs like this

>>49599491
sounds like a perfect way to end up talking to someone you wouldnt be able to stand sober

>>49599503
i'd literally never spoken to random people at a bar in my life prior to that it's not something you really do here
>>49599506
everyone i talked to was cool so it worked out great

is that not part of the fun?
一期一会 and all that

glad that morbido is following the one true path

idk i just feel like its way easier to talk to new women compared to men because you have 恋愛 as a shared goal

stupid retard conflating his skypech ogres with normal women in a bar

normal women are not at bars

無恋? 無恋?

Is there a recommended grammar deck for anki? My brain is too fried to focus on cure dolly videos or read from like a book. Anki decks i can do all day tho

翌朝に起きていよいよ酔いを醒ましたら、それは見慣れたさすが辛抱できないマットの面だった

>>49599685
for the basics
https://www2.gwu.edu/~eall/vjgnew/vjghomepage/vjghome.htm

normal women are not anywhere

>>49599581
thats exactly why i tell my 妻 that shes my best friend every day

Just checked and I haven't immersed in 20 days, 3 weeks behind on all my seasonals, and got other japanese stuff I wanna watch and yet don't feel like doing any of it

it's all over for you buddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tjabm0kM-k

it's not over until you give up

>>49599722
so basically youre just owned?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncK6qqQlmz0

>>49599722
stop being a sunk cost fallacy tard and think about if you actually want to do this while remembering that there is no real tangible benefit other than enjoying what you seem to not be enjoying

>>49599722
i can understand not doing any japanese for 2 or 3 days max if life comes at you hxc from the side but 20 days? are you actually into japanese?

i 9mmerse once in half a year and im better than you

>>49599833
doitsu jin desu nee..

have watched more anime these past few weeks than i did in like the past 3 years before that

>>49599975
what have you watched?

>>49599722
what did you do in that time instead? literally 80% my free time is spent on something japanese-related so idk how someone can be "behind"

collective thread iq 80

proud no life loser

fail

but enough about your life

>>49598564
i'm going to tell him i'm djt's representative and djt is sorry for how it treated him.

>>49599999

>>49599931
not him but in my case I stopped immersing during months due to crippling ocd

obsessive cuck disorder

>during months

>>49599979
mainly shit that filtered me hard 5 years ago like monogatari and black lagoon
wanna watch tensura and madoka next

>>49600016
this can be tough yea

aaaaaaaaaaa wtf chrome

>mainly shit
>monogatari
checks out

>>49600089
nice text rendering faggot

chat is this real?

bro im so glad i didn't read this as sakeya (i was hesitating tho)

read that as sakeya

sakeya? sakeya?

ワンカップ大関
180ml (6oz) and 15%

>>49599722
have you not watched any JAV in that time? It's what brought me back into the language.

>>49600238
>>49600238
あｂそぅてｌｙ　ばせｄ

shatto za fakku appu

>>49600248
ａはｂです　なぜか

>>49600117
lol put your trip back on lard >>>/trash/74397665

>>49600283
only me and queef are allowed to bear the mark of tripdom

>>49600290
eotp
一昨日来い

heard that one in ranma

could we all start sis-ing each other from now on instead of bro-ing?

>>49600283
>only one person has ever drank alcohol in japan

read VN in english first and then come back to it later in japanese when i'm better at it or go japanese right away and maybe turn it into a drag?

many people have had alcohol in japan and they all belong inside of a running meat grinder

>>49600382
lil sis...

>>49600403
the latter

>>49600403
playing it twice just sounds like a waste of time if the goal is to learn japanese

>>49600403
do the first one, you're supposed to reread stuff you've already seen in japanese so the burden is less and you dont get burnt out

Sentence creation / writing exercise. Grammar practiced:
間に
せめて〜くらい
〜方をする
〜たらいい
〜たところで
なら
失敗しても、何も出来ない間にせめて真剣なやり方をするくらいだったらいいかな。しかし、どんなに努力したところで失敗するのなら、いつも無能でいて仕方ないよな。
>>49600403
Trying reading VNs that have both English and Japanese translation side by side, like Nekopara and Higurashi.

>>49600403
ask for a chatgpt summary of whatever vn you're going to read, and google episode summaries for anime you're going to watch.

>>49599619
失恋。悲恋。

なぜ。
なぜお姉さんに愛されるショタじゃないんだ。
死にたい。死ぬしかない。

くたばっちまえ

鬼の目にも涙

wow... so deep...

濁りある　水にも月は　宿るぞと
思へばやがて　すむ心かな

>>49600470
>>49600477
glad this shota canonically has a bitch breaker but is exclusive to lucoa

>>49600488
tears even in an onis eye

>>49600498
Yeahh

鬼の首を取ったよう
鬼に金棒
地獄にも鬼ばかりではない
鬼の霍乱
鬼も十八番茶も出花
鬼の居ぬ間に洗濯
鬼が笑う

自殺したらエロいお姉さんのハレムを手に入れたショタ勇者として転生した件。

>>49600539
>鬼も十八番茶も出花
the oni is 18 and the coarse green tea is freshly brewed

>>49600470
lol

I like how similar looking kanji often have the same onyomi

didn't do anki in half a month...

>>49600746
do them anon!

only 78?

is it true that if i read a lot i will end up sounding retarded? i enjoy reading more

https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/130939235

>>49600403
Do the first one only with something that you read a long time ago, so that you don't get too bored of it

>>49600789
Eroi

>>49600789
without login wall

https://pixiv.perennialte.ch/artworks/131581541
This one by the same artist made me chuckle

porn is offtopic

>>49600974
it's porn in japanese tho? thereofre ontopoc

>>49600757
yeah it'd really suck to have to do any more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZjGEje6hHw

yeah we should stop recommending these auto furigana bullshit inserters

i obviously don't need it but just kept the default lapis settings and i keep noticing it segmenting words wrong and ofc the readings get fucked up too, just really bad bad shit and we should not let beginners near that

without an actual error rate then you are just whining

>>49601251
i don't need to calculate an error rate if i've already seen it do a dozen things wrong
this is another one of those tools being introduced to new learners that are completely redundant and only hinder them

it's like the migaku bulllshit which colors every word in a color like blue for "you should know this" and red for "this is new" it's like, what? what is this shit? obviously a learner should be able to recognize whether they don't know a word but they get trained to rely on retarded tools like that so they can't even tell if something is new without it being colored in for by retarded paid tools

and it's similar for this, obviously you should be able to read everything in the sentence so the entire furigana insertion bullshit is redundant and if you can't read everything in the sentence you should just mine the words you don't know

there's literally no use case for furigana insertion in the example sentences

Do you bother mining 四字熟語?

>>49601279
ofc why wouldn't you

>>49601288
seems kinda narrow. it's kind of like mining some common carpentry jargon or the name of a specific part of a sword

>>49601299
i think if you've read it in a book or a vn or something and couldn't read it but the expectation was that you should be able to read it you should mine it
the same applies if it was said in a spoken medium line anime and it was expected to be understood
in other words you should probably mine the vast majority of things or even everything you read in non-specialist literature
learners have a lot of delusions about what is worth knowing

>>49601264
tldr

>>49601234
えマジ振仮名キモい
振仮名が許されるのは小学生までだよね

>>49601321
chatgpt-4o-latest-20250326

TL;DR:
If it shows up in normal media and you're expected to get it, mine it. Most things are worth learning.

embed fail

wait so you can meet matt in tokyo and learn now? is that supposed to be better than immersing

if you have infinite money to travel to Japan and are photogenic enough for the thumbnail

Hey guys,
Me and my Japanese friend are running an experiment: how much money can we take from you in one day?

so he doesnt pay you anything?

immersion https://www.youtube.com/live/xyEHnrbSuzU

acquired 淡色野菜

how poetic

>>49601436
if matt personally traveled to our houses to tutor us we would accept it no question, but having to travel to him is a ripoff.

>our
>us
>we
schizosis..

name one person that disagrees

how much more until i can crack the code?

>>49601607
350

>>49601545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7bHSt8Okxc

>>49601607
what is that shit even

Fuck sake i have to downmix to mono to make this listenable, or is Tatami Galaxy in left ear, oneechan teasing in right ear, the strategy?

Bros, how do I make it by december?

>>49601663
>is Tatami Galaxy in left ear, oneechan teasing in right ear, the strategy?
Yes
It's heavenly

>>49601330
振仮名が許されるのはＮ２までだよね

I bought RTK 1+3 and plan to spend the next 4 months studying Kanji. Anything I should know ahead of time?

you could've gotten it for free off libgen

>>49601717
that you wasted your money and will waste your time but you probably already know that

>>49601723
QM what are your thoughts on passive listening for 24 hours a day? (or as much as you can)

does it differ dependiing on if your beginner, intermediate, advanced, etc?

>>49601733
24 hours? way over the top, but yeah you can use most hours like when commuting or doing chores or when you would listen to the radio in the car
at the beginning the effect is probably very little because it's mostly white noising, probably better than nothing if you can pick up a few words here and there but yeah later when you can just understand shit it's really good, passive listening is great in that regard but i would not overdo it and it still has to be compelling, personally i like audio books for this i've also tried listening to podcasts but i didn't really find them interesting idk the things japanese people say and talk about just aren't compelling to me

>>49601717
djt debunked rtk but newfags never want to hear it

>>49601738
>idk the things japanese people say and talk about just aren't compelling to me
120 million people don't talk about anything compelling to you? that's called racism.

>>49601738
do u have reccs for a speaker i can use to play japanese without it disturbing my roommates? I think my earbuds are giving me tinnitus

chatgpt-4o-latest-20250326

TL;DR:
Listening passively all day is overkill, but using spare time (like during chores or commuting) is good. For beginners, it's not that effective—just background noise—but becomes valuable as you improve and start understanding more. It still needs to be interesting to work well; audiobooks are good, but podcasts might not always be engaging.

add a grok button to 4chan x that shortens all posts longer than 2 lines

if it's interesting id rather listen to it attentively

>>49601741
ayy yoo ahh reycee cracka wo jf fo nigga don je sayin da balling

is there any point making it to japan as a 30+ unc? is it over for us?

>>49601761
what do you want to do there exactly? sex tourism?

>>49601761
for you, Thai has a higher ROI

>>>/philippines/

>>49601761
you've got 45 years until the dementia sets in, wtf do you mean it over, you're barely out the womb

>>49601762
find a wife, start a family, a business, and live in a safe high trust society far away from black pipo and arabs
>>49601766
>>49601767
i don't consider those equal people

>>49601772
oh yea especially the first 2 would still be easy for you.

>>49601772
>i don't consider those equal people
Muay Thai guys could rip your balls off and eat it and you couldn't do anything about it, so ofc you're not equal to them

>>49601584
add 緑黄色野菜 as 反対語

>>49601741
the term racism has been used and abused so much yeah im calling myself racist because to most people calling other people racist they do mean people like me, but im not racist as i understand the term
i simply acknowledge there are fundamental differences in terms of mentality between westerners and japanese people that are not merely personality or whatever but things that make us fundamentally different as people therefore it's not surprising that we wouldn't talk about the same things or even in the same way so when japanese people talk to other japanese people about things japanese people care about 99% of the time it will be something i simply do not care about and do not find interesting at all

that's also why japanese youtube is so boring, there's barely anything compelling to the western mind, sure i mean i might enjoy a jap lets playing some game and their commentary but it kind of ends there, like what? im going to watch a political commentator talk about koreans as if i even remotely give a fuck or have any life experiences to even slightly be able to relate to that person? or other societal topics? things a jap struggles with or grows up with like what entrance exams or somet shit? it's just not happening. we have fundamentally different life experiences, there's no common ground here. we may find some novelty in our differences but that is brief satisfaction and curiosity in a direct exchange, not passively consuming their slop.

do mind this is different from appreciating and liking their works of art, like writing, lns, vns, animation and art, anime and manga which you can appreciate even without being japanese but only fully if you understand japanese

>>49601742
not really, use over ear headphones and turn the volume down

>> pale veggies are lacking in nutrients
>> green and yellow veggies are rich in nutrients
???

damn nigga can you not talk like ai

"vegetables" dont have any nutrients

>>49601807
you need to stfu. no one is reading your posts. all you do is waste thread real estate actual people could be using

>>49601788
so can a gangbanger and a pitbull, doesn't make them better men in the ways that matter

>remember, it takes more effort to refute bullshit than to produce it

>>49601818
oh yeah let's make way for all the high intellect posts flooding into here all day long from amazing japanese knowers all way above n1 level:

fake eotd: どこの馬の骨
got WN8KR as captcha, lol

theres so much baggage around the word racism

>>49601831
authentic eotp
馬革に屍を裹む

you cant "talk" to subhuman iqs like queef

i dont doubt a good percentage of posters are beyond n1 its not exactly a crazy high level

it's just some test. what good does it do you to have english c2 when you still say "3 ninutes"

>>49601842
lol

the point of the n1 is to work or study in japan so they know you at least understand parts of most things and can probably understand very dumbed down instructions

>>49601807
I tried immersing in French youtube once and it was nothing but conspiracy after conspiracy, even on the front page with a brand new yt account, so I can see where you're coming from. Western youtube just jives with the western mind a lot better

>>49601831
>>49601845
here's one from me
坊主憎けりゃ袈裟まで憎い

HOW DO I LINK PC TO PHONE

thats so ez tho

>>49601928
当て擦り坊主

boring ass thread *hits ctrl w*

now the party can get started

>>49601723
If RTK saves you 1000 hours of study time, why tf would you call it a waste of time?

Native Chinese speakers haven't done RTK

>>49602009
meaning, equating the "kanji knowledge" of a Chinese speaker to doing RTK is an understatement

>>49601991
this is hypnothetical minmaxing that no one has ever been able to 立証. just do it and facepalm a year from now. it'll be something you can laugh about later.

>>49602009
are you saying chinese speakers are illiterate

>>49601987
>>49601989
>Same anon

>>49602009
it just says students with kanji knowledge, not chinese students

>>49602024
no, i meant that doing RTK is nothing compared to living, eating, breathing Chinese for your entire life. thinking that doing RTK will give you the same advantage is an overstatement, probably

200+ hours to reach n5 seems fake

>>49602034
sure, Wikipedia *did* say 'kanji knowledge' not 'native Chinese' mb, i haven't clicked the citation to figure out what the numbers are based on

>>49601762
play DDR

>>49602034
doing RTK wont give you "kanji knowledge" either

doing lil js mom will

>>49601991
these numbers are bullshit, the average learner can barely learn hiragana much less kanji they don't even try, that's the first thing, the second thing is that you don't get what chinese have by going through a retarded book with inaccurate meanings
the entire idea of starting out with rtk comes from the false belief that kanji is the ultimate hurdle to japanese but it's not, if you normally learn the language you'll learn to read normally including kanji, if it really helps you you can still learn the retarded meanings while learning the actual words and how to read them but you'll probably find very soon it's redundant

as a western student without prior kanji knowledge i've reached n1 level in far far less time than what that table says

>these numbers are bullshit
trust ^ he knows jackshit

>>49602098
>>49602103
i mean im pretty sure these are classroom hours with some time added for homework and imagine the absolute retard sitting in classes for a few thousand hours, if you don't use retard methods obviously you'll make progress far faster

ijiban yasui progress

>>49602098
imagine how much faster you would've learned if you combined rtk with your already efficient methods

u probably could've gotten N1 in 8 months like Jazzy

holy fatherless

thats brazzy bro

miss jazzy so much

can you learn jp playing video games?

you could learn jp by going to jp

yea vns technically count as video games because people say they "play" them in this thread.

>>49602130
yeah i could have been much faster but i always had other things to worry about and stress outside of japanese, it was always a hobby and the time i invested pretty limited
dozens of days where i did not interact with japanese at all but it does not surprise me you can get n1 in less than a year doing the right things and investing a good amount of time, he among other people like doth is the proof that our method works and is the best

>>49602177
>our method
you mean antimoon's, khatz' and matt's, the big 3 popularizers.

just like how you could've solved that iq puzzle lol

>>49601991
>self repor...

>>49602187
>antimoon's
heard very little about antimoon and i don't think they played a key role in anything remotely relevant to modern japanese learning methodology
>khatz
exact same thing, he has contributed nothing except somehow the previously unexplored idea that more hours equals more results
>matt
just did what khatz did except worse, matt is technologically incompetent and made anki cards by copying them from a text file into anki, making extremely inefficient cards taking forever and on top of that fucking up his anki algorithm by pressing hard on every single card equaling to him spending literally hours every day in anki, the only thing he did right and the reason he succeeded is that he copied kahtz' obsession with investing unreasonable amount of hours and ultimate if you invest enough hours it doesn't matter what you do, you'll get good either way

additionally matt has stopped recommending established methodology and is now advocating for an unproven and likely inefficient listening only approach

to rehash what the actual methodology is that none of these people had a part in: doing a small core deck and working through a grammar guide to front load basic knowledge about the language and consuming content in the language while making anki cards with tools like yomitan for things you don't know (i.e. mining)

>>49601991
rtk does not give you the equivalent of a chink's understanding of kanji you faggot retard

itt: seething kanjilets

>>49602197
listening is based, that's where all the learners with good accents come from. some ppl in Oojiman's server sound identical to native speakers

reading is probably the thing that cripplies learners the most

>>49602197
so your "improvement" upon matt's method is...making it easier to make anki cards.
>additionally matt has stopped recommending established methodology
you mean like he stopped recommending traditional classroom learning? matt's just 5-10 years ahead of everyone else.

>>49602204
this sucks cuz reading is fun and listening is torture lol

>>49602207
not if u have nihonjin frens

>>49602204
the people who sound good and like native speaker don't get that from listening a lot but by interacting a lot with native speakers and copying them, which is the actual key to getting "nativeness" that a lot of people claiming to have learned through "listening" have

but yes there is potential to build bad habits by reading from the start which is why you should listening assisted reading like jp subtitled anime and audio books with text, that's the best way to go about it

why should anyone listen to a low iq rambling idiot lol

>>49601991
The argument collapses under scrutiny. The cognitive advantage Chinese speakers have when learning Japanese stems from preexisting semantic and orthographic fluency with Chinese characters (hanzi). This fluency wasn't developed through learning characters in isolation as a foreign system, but rather as part of their native language acquisition. They already understand the characters’ meanings, pronunciations, and usage within words and sentences. It’s an entirely different substrate.

For a native English speaker, attempting to replicate that advantage by memorizing kanji in isolation is misguided. Without lexical context, kanji are abstract and overloaded with readings and meanings. Isolating them strips away the scaffolding that makes them intelligible—compounds, collocations, sentence function, and phonology. You’re not learning a writing system; you’re learning opaque visual data with tenuous links to language.

The more effective approach is to learn kanji in the context of vocabulary, preferably high-frequency compounds. That mirrors how literacy develops in native speakers and leverages semantic reinforcement and pattern recognition. You build usable mental representations that tie form, sound, and meaning together.

Trying to brute-force kanji isolation is high-effort, low-yield. You’re not training fluency—you’re training trivia.

>>49602212
bro isn't that what listening is? This is also why Oojiman shits on anime and visual novels, youtube is king, hikaru is Emperor

>>49602223
thanks GPT

>>49602204
also it's always also a matter of prioritization
for example some of the normies who learned from listening living in japan interacting with japan may sound better than me and have a more native "flair" but they don't have a fraction of the passive vocabulary and knowledge that i have

how i sound in japanese is absolutely irrelevant to me because i am not in japan and don't plan to go to japan

but when i read or when i watch anime (which is what i actually do) i need to know the words and the readings and i can do that 100x better than all of these speaking focused people

>>49602224
hikaru is cringe, if you can watch that content unironcally you're definitely retarded

this guy?

>>49602234
nah some retarded prank youtuber or something idk he does shit an educated western man couldn't comprehend unless half his brain is missing, imagine if you gave 8 year olds a camera and hold him to make youtube videos that probably sums it up (a lot of japs actually never grow up)

>>49602228
learning to just read and listen in a living language is quite a niche goal though, I'd imagine the majority of learners would like to speak the language someday

>>49602246
it's not for japanese, otaku content is one the main reasons people learn japanese
and even if they want to speak they'll learn that either way eventually, it will come naturally when they do meet japanese people or go to japan cuz you have all the knowledge and intuition it simply needs to be activated
matt is an example for this, he's doing fine in japan isn't he

meanwhile speaking focused learners have far more potential to build bad habits precisely cuz they learn speaking before building an intuition but it's mitigated by them copying natives, long term i would say it's the less efficient approach and what ends up happening is that they have to learn to read and read a shit ton either way to build vocabulary and intuition otherwise they will just sound like retarded kids forever

qm have you played 13 sentinels?

>>49602261
pedo game

>>49602258
>it will come naturally when they do meet japanese people or go to japan cuz you have all the knowledge and intuition it simply needs to be activated
oriental pearl debunked this. according to her she has a bunch of former matt fans on her discord that complained to her that they couldn't speak after getting years of input, and in fact, their output practice was still an extremely long and tedious process and they regret having not practiced far earlier.

wish all these tripfag interview questions were banned

>>49602279
why does it bother you

reposting the best site in case someone doesn't know

https://www.immersionkit.com/

only a cuck would ask that question

more like immersionshit

>>49602279
sorry bro, QM is just a really likeable guy

>>49602261
i haven't but thanks to this stellar review >>49602268 i might check it out, thanks

>>49602277
oriental pearl is literally retarded and speaks with a horrid accent at a horrid level, she's probably not even n2 level despite god knows how many years in japan and marrying a japanese guy so her takes are worthless including her reported anecdotal experiences of random ass discord people, who knows wtf they did

i literally have less than 20 output hours total and can have a conversation with japanese people about anything, seems like bongta was surprised too i could speak just fine when we were in voice chat

it's literally impossible to actually
1. understand japanese AND
2. consume a lot of japanese
and not end up being able to speak japanese

the real issue is more likely just a handful of hand picked low iq retards who white noised japanese and were too stupid to make anything comprehensible to themselves which is what actually matters (hours of comprehensible input vs whitenoise hours)

>>49602299
your wife would probably divorce you if she knew you were playing that kind of game.

like him off site when ur banned lol

>>49602237
the appeal of hikaru is learning to resocialize your otaku personality and become a モテ男

>>49602304
is this read moteoh or moteotokoh?

motedan

its read as ai exists so stfu

hmmm

>>49602302
probably not i'll play it in front of her

>>49602304
you're not resocializing anything by forming parasocial relationships with low iq attention seeking retards, if you were doing anything worthwhile in your life you wouldn't watch such worthless peoples content

>Check info
hmmm

fucking loser

dont insult ai or you're gonna have problems with iqnigger

ai is truly cooked

umm how come my browser says both

https://streamable.com/25hx40

here's an actual example for yall

your input is not required

id rather be the maotoko

proof not even ai can save actual retards

>>49602314
lol did you really go out of your way to edit this, how pathetic

also ur 100% ngmi if you thought of 魔

projector: on

lol

ai has truly replaced sub 130s

>>49602372
but that's the word they use in my animes

>>49602362
you can guess three time what makes a more interesting thread, actual real voiced examples or a chatgpt output lol

idiot posts arent interesting after a while

kys

>>49602393
jamal posted recently even recording one of this iconic vocaroos but nobody replied to him i think he just gave up after that

probably a repost

next level fatherlessness

claude roast QM please
lol

looked up "vocaroo" in the past month and got bored after not finding anything

>>49602398
is jamal the same as the phantom madman guy?

>claude cant even come up with queefler
sad

>>49602299
her accent is objectively better than yours and her on the spot output is probably too

anyone who's set foot in japan automatically sounds better than queef

>>49602224
shitting on anime and vns as input is retarded lol
sure if its all you immerse in thats not good but its still japanese and a lot of normal natives consume tons of hours of it with no second thought

>graduate from core deck and start doing my own mining deck
>can remember the readings after a few retries
>cannot remember the meanings of vocab at all
Wtf am I doing wrong. At this point I'm failing cards purely because I have no idea what the definition is

RTK chads win again

>>49602433
just count that as a pass
meanings are much easier learned through immersion than anki

if you cant pass just change the standards

>delete anki
>stop immersing
never have to struggle to remember a forgotten word again

おはようおにいちゃん

せきをしてもひとり

>>49602439
*plap plap*

matt won
qm lost

>>49602453
im just saying from my own experience that seeing words in input multiple times is a lot more memorable than trying to force something in anki

Anyone has the Beltorchika's Children light novel in Japanese?

oh i just now realized their logo is katakana

tard alert

i don't use tomiyan so i wouldn't know

>>49602565
same hovering is a gay crutch

>>49602552
it also uses the same color scheme as tmw

>>49602556
well i couldn't hover the logo so how was i supposed to know?

>>49602589
bisexual 実家暮らし troon gooner coded

i cant wait to be as good as qm in japanese one day

>>49602351
>sassa doe
japs don't even know how to pronounce to correctly? why hasn't djt talked about this?

>>49602675
sounds right to me

>>49602675
unplug your ears

つめきりなくした

どこいっちゃったのかなあ

>>49602754
もう爪切り探してみた？

>>49602844
直訳臭い
恥ずかしく思え

新スレどこ？

>>49603012
>>49603012
>>49603012

>>49602996
you should have made it

>>49602979
そんなわけないだろ、chatgptさん

>>49602416
lol you're delusional but ok

>ぐうの音も出ない
Is something like this worth mining

>>49602433
you have to make animecards (vocab cards with a lot of context) in order to have something to hook your memory to, here, read this: https://animecards.site