What are some parts of touhou lore you like or find interesting?

>>49675631 (OP)
Ran being ex yakuza. It's really weird and zun probably just did it on a whim. Or he did it just to tie Ran into the beasthu game. Either way, it somehow works. An AI kitsune who probably cracked skulls for money.
Ran being a former criminal is badass. Who knows what she was like before she started living with Yukari. Was she the strong silent type? Was she honourable? A slutty femme fatale? A maniac? A money making genius? A grand theft auto protagonist, but fluffier? Did she do 20 years in t̶h̶e̶ c̶a̶n̶ jail?

>>49675631 (OP)
I wanna see Reimu’s bloodline elaborated on more than anything else, that’s always interested me. I wanna see more of gensokyo prior to spell card rules. It’s why I like parts of CDS.

>>49675631 (OP)
It will always amaze me how The Dragon God was explicitly stated to be THE central figure of the creation of the Hakurei Barrier, was stated to be worshipped by everyone in Gensokyo, but we have heard zero additional information on him for nearly two decades.

>>49675631 (OP)
Canon lesbians in 19.

>>49675631 (OP)
Miko is a transwoman.

>>49675974
Said nobody ever. Even the silliest clown on Opposite Day after funny bone surgery.

>>49676123
*Crown Prince*

>>49675631 (OP)
I think my favorite part about Touhou Lore is how people who try to force their politics into it are sent to a secret layer of animal hell where they're fed shit for all eternity.

>>49676242
This, Touhou is just about cute lesbians doing cute things, there's no need to make it political.

>>49675631 (OP)
gensokyo is in a space station

>>49675897
Even though ZUN will never do it, I would love to see an official Hakurei family tree.

>>49675958
I'm pretty sure ZUN just straight up forgot about it.

>>49675808
>It's really weird and zun probably just did it on a whim.
Yeah, it's literally out of nowhere lol
Zuntata rarely, if ever, revisit old ass character to give them actual depth, let alone adding new significant backstory to them

>>49676533
It's so frustrating seeing all the things ZUN has hinted at and just never bring up again.

>>49675631 (OP)
All of it is fun to dig around especially things that aren't explained outright leaving things to imagination. I think DiPP is a good example with it being part of early Gensokyo where it's basically a old story about people who spirited away into Gensokyo and perished.
Otherwise I really enjoy the characters with a decent amount of backstory such as Yukari, Yuyuko, Byakuren, Satori, and Mokou to name a couple.

>>49676251
Touhou has bisexuals, not lesbians.

>>49676209
"genderless title"

>>49680425
"""prince shotoku"""

>>49675974
Not really. Miko is a biological woman, even if she was a man in her past life she wouldn't be a tranny.
The thing that makes a tranny a tranny is them identifying as the opposite sex. They're literally defined by the fact they don't identify as the sex they are.

>>49683304
The amount of secondaries not understanding that Miko is supposed to be a representation of the Crown Prince's supernatural feats and not a representation of the man himself (the historical figure) is very disappointing, I always thought it was a very creative way of writing a character.

the crown prince is NOT a tranny

>>49675958
>The Dragon God was explicitly stated to be THE central figure of the creation of the Hakurei Barrier, was stated to be worshipped by everyone in Gensokyo, but we have heard zero additional information on him for nearly two decades.
He blew up the fairies in the fairy manga once
https://mangadex.org/chapter/e2865a1f-5223-4b24-92e2-3563a7bd622d/1
and blew up a tree that became the fairies' new house
https://mangadex.org/chapter/942a318c-268a-4787-8fd3-f7dcfe37e329/1

>>49683304
Technically no, by the definition of the word anything would be trans-sex if they performed the trans-, crossing from one to the other.

>>49684311
By that definition, trannies aren't trannies tho. Trannies literally can't cross from one sex to another, that's kind of what makes them trannies.
They want to be a member of the opposite sex, but aren't. Otherwise they would a member of the opposite sex.

>>49684441
You're pretty close to grasping why the term transsexual was retired for transgender.

>>49684448
Whether the term transsexual and transgender are used they're describing the same thing, at the end of the day they're still both trannies.
Doesn't really matter what you call it, at the end of the day they're the same thing.

>>49684310
Even the dragon god realizes the threat fairies pose to man

>>49676242
I don't know what you mean, I'm sure Reimu would get along great with your local grand wizard

>>49675631 (OP)
Zanmu used to be a male Buddhist monk.

>>49684981
Now she got yurified!

>>49685057
Canon btw!

>>49685070
Cute and canon!

>>49676209
>>49680425
>>49682169
>>49684981
Touhou is a Japanese series so discussing the specific wording in English isn't the best idea.... A bunch of words in Japanese are less gendered than in English:
太子(grand + child) was also used for the future empress https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AD%9D%E8%AC%99%E5%A4%A9%E7%9A%87
僧侶(priest + follower) is even used by ZUN for the other Buddhist monk characters, and the term is usually also translated as monk in those cases.

>>49683329
The problem of implied canon is... well it being implied. Has a lot of fun things but I guess people usually go with the simplest answer.
Some people like the vagueness others might get frustrated... imo it's interesting

2hu used to be apolitical. Why does everything have to be politicized? We just want to play a good danmaku series...

>>49685837
>2hu
>good danmaku series

>>49675974
And she’s married to another woman.

I really really really like Makai
It feels like a place I visit when I dream

This thread is b*dhist propaganda

>>49686244
two yurihus

>>49686289
Go back to /v/

>>49686295
But this is my home board.

>>49686295
/v/ hates yuri, though.

>>49675958
What if the dragon god is just an tall and hot but cold and aloof long-haired dragon woman?

>>49686325
and a lesbian who made a sapphic paradise

>>49686325
yukari's hidden lover!

>>49686345
>>49686430
If you posted on /u/ half as much as you do on /jp/, maybe it wouldn't take an average of 10 years for a thread there to reach the bump limit.

>>49686325
Dragon god is just Miao Ying.

The fact that this cutie patootie is a hard working blacksmith by trade! She went through a whole arc of trying to be useful and finally did it!
Also, Japanese blacksmiths usually have small shinto shrines so that's why she even bothered to help Reimu with her needles for youkai extermination (leading to her pointy pichuun).
Funnily enough, despite numerous claims, Kogasa has never properly done babysitting and spooks babies for a cheap scare. The only proper reference to babysitting is the 4th wall break about Mary Poppins.
I also find the whole debate about who's her true self very retarded when we clearly see (and is a major plot point) in DDC's Extra Stage, that Raiko (a tsukumogami) is able to replace her own object and even teaches the Tsukumos (also tsukumogami) to do the same thing to avoid reverting back to regular objects. EVEN MORE SO, Kogasa (a tsukumogami) modifies her OWN umbrella to look more scary (akin to Ippon Datara). I rest my case, although I would still fuck the umbrella if it was the real Kogasa.

>>49686325
ZUN, hire this man. Right fucking now!

>>49686578
Also a lesbian in a situationship with Sanae!

>>49686592
>a lesbian in a situationship with Sanae!
yuricuck you at least need to do more research

>>49686578
the real kogasa is the umbrella btw.
>>49686608
lol

>>49686578
You forgot the part where she offered free scissoring services to every youkai woman!

>>49686559
YES! Just need a bigger chest then we good... I shoot love big breasts. Oh, and add a biker suit, that's sexy and baddass. (It's just over with me.)
>>49686583
If I am hired, I want full creative control. I aren't letting this man book shows anymore. I would probably do worse, because the only business I know well is wrestling, money or finnish shitposts, but hey! More sexy mature women. I aren't a asshole and I would share the big of the money with the guy, he have a family.

>>49686592
you fucking retard
she's in a RELATIONSHIP with Sekibanki and gets MOLESTED by Sanae

>>49686592
Just because Sanae keeps her in a torture dungeon and clones her in order to create mindless clones she can kill and rape doesn't mean they're in a relationship.
I'm pretty sure that's called imprisonment, torture, and rape.

>>49686325
Why this fit Touhou so goddamn well?

>>49686632
Well, when you see the full crash and burn the recent printworks are, you just discard them from the official fluff. And if you have experience with wrestling, you can create something that would catch the attention. Or you just want a touhou Miao Ying with a biker suit?

>>49675631 (OP)
How there is a whole subset of people who dedicate their LIFE to researching Gensokyo's politics and how it affect aspects of average Gensokyo's human life
This single panel mindbroke THOUSANDS

>>49688187
Gensokyo even has dishwashers.

>>49688187
>touhou is now just your 1337th average hfy fantasy universe
Bravo Kojima! I salute you!
>>49688197
You still have to sold your mom for a dishwasher

>>49688201
>Bravo Kojima! I salute you!
That's every piece of media where fantasy retreats giving way to reality.
It's slop, common slop.
Stock even.

>>49688197
>>49688201
Well, also, I have seen people writing serious essays about how would the education system of Gensokyo work, their economy and societal problems
It's just funny to see, the fandom went from getting heated about powerlevel to getting heated about which people in position of power is pro-human and how to maintain human influences in Gensokyo

>>49688206
Aya being poltically anti-human and wanting open conflict, despite being a human larper will never not be funny. You know what they say, never ask the racist the race of their boyfriend.

>>49688205
Thanks Obama.
>>49688206
I bet you had more than one stroke.

>>49688212
Just because frontal lobe no longer work good doesn't mean I had more than one stroke.

>>49688215
Alright, you made me laugh. That was a funny post.

>>49675631 (OP)
This whole family tree
Somehow everyone is just related to each other one way or another
Touhou 20 is not out fully yet and this family tree already have addition

>>49688187
>Taking Reimu's word for granted.
It's evidence that she's incredibly spoiled, mostly. Basically Marie Antoinette saying "Let them eat cake".

Yes, I know Marie didn't actually say that.

>>49688197
Only for evil Youkai who don't deserved them.

>>49688238
Damn those Youkai!
Hoarding all the dishwashers!

>>49688250
Yeah.

The human villagers would be so much better off with no Youkai around.

>>49688187
The amount of shitflinging that chapter caused in the CDS thread will always be funny

>>49686669
Because it's the universe a drunk with too many fetishes who turn folkloric youkais into girls, so a big lizard turned into a woman doesn't feel out of place.
>>49688174
I don't read the printworks, I just shitpost the hell on them, because it is better to have fun on something than crying on it. When you read them, it's feel like ZUN is pulling a rib on you. "Oh, you like that character? Allow me to screwjob or bury her." "Oh, you like fantasy? Humanity's the best." You pray for ZUN doesn't do something with your favorite girl, else you're gonna rip your eyes off or ask Moe for a forget me drink. Expect if your girl is Super Cen- Reimu. And yes, I want a big-breasted, tall, sexy mature dragon girl with long hair and a biker suit. Y'know what? I'm gonna learn on how to draw, so I can make the sexiest dragon girl ever! (I will give up.)
>>49688187
Did Vince Russo/Matt Ward under 5 extra large rails of coke booked this shit or what? Oh well, every fanfiction is gonna discard that. I should write a song on this...
>>49688210
It's well know in the business than racists know much more people of different races than the other. Racism bring people together.
>>49688292
I can't wait for the next one... I missed the previous one.

>>49688292
That is how I know there are people who is THAT serious about Touhou's politics

>>49688299
Mostly serious about the writing quality.

>>49688212
It's okay he's just the illiterate /pw/fag from a while back, you can tell due to the esl-ness, his tendencies to write songs, and out of pocket stuff about stuff he hasn't read.
Honestly, the threads were livelier with Impaler and Nork around I hope they come back >>49688281 this guy can hardly compare to them.

>>49688397
You still can't really tell who's the /pw/guy, aren't you? Even if he still live rent free inside your head. Also these guys you spoke about, were entertaining because of him. Wait, aren't you the "purist" that got trolled by him? Are you still mad at him?

>>49688456
What are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with him, he's just an ESL with a funny and distinctive posting style.
And yeah the threads were fuunnier when him and the other guys could bounce off each other.

>>49688238
>Marie
Why so familiar? Do you know her personally or something?

So, can we speak about Touhou lore and not shooting promos about boogeymen? I didn't came here to work an angle with someone that I worked into a shoot some months ago. Just speaking about Touhou lore and on how hot the Dragon God would be as a woman because I'm bored and need something to work my brain.

>>49675631 (OP)
That ZUN casually confirmed that Joon was indeed a real pestilence god in the past, so now she and Shion are likely older than most of the cast by virtue of being concepts existed since the dawn of history

>>49688763
Sorry, but this isn't a Touhou lore thread, if it was meant to be more effort should have been put into the op. You can't really blame people for yearning for the shitposting days of yore in a low quality shitpost thread.
The closest thing to that we have right now is the fanfiction thread. Aside from that, 'I'm horny lets talk about a female version of the dragon god' doesn't have much material, everything that could have been said about her has already been said without fanart or a writefag popping in for a delivery.
So if you want to talk about lore, either try to steer the thread in that direction by talking about lore, or go the fanfiction thread.

>>49675974
The whole "Miko is trans" thing buries a much more interesting thing under it for those willing to really dig.

Let's start with the fact that the historical Shoutoku Taishi was a strong advocate of Buddhism. There's an extremely beloved and popular Buddhist deity known in Japan as Kannon. She's commonly thought as being female, but is also portrayed in androgynous and male forms. In Buddhist doctrine, Kannon has no single gender because Kannon, like all the bodhisattvas, transcend limitations on the forms they manifest as.

Shoutoku Taishi established a temple known as Horyu-ji. Today, in this temple is a hexagonal structure known as the Hall of Dreams, built on the grounds of Shoutoku Taishi's personal palace. The Hall of Dreams is named so because a golden buddha one appeared to Shoutoku Taishi in his dreams. In this Hall of Dreams is the Kuze or Guze Kannon, a sculpture of Kannon that was created in the likeness of Shoutoku Taishi after his death, when a cult had developed around him. Some say this was made out of belief that Shoutoku Taishi was a manifestation of Kannon, others claim it was to pacify and bind his angry ghost, angered by the termination of his bloodline.

What of it? Well, before Kannon arrived to Japan, she was Guanyin in China, and before that, Avalokiteshvara in India. Avalokiteshvara was a decidedly male deity, yet while migrating eastward he became portrayed in increasingly feminine forms.

By creating the Kuze Kannon - who is referenced in Miko's spellcard "Halo of Kuze Kannon" - the historical Shoutoku Taishi became intermingled with a deity that historicaly acquired more feminine characteristics over time. In Touhou, it is pretty much said out straight that Miko is not the historical Shoutoku Taishi, but a manifestation of his legend, a legend that is also in real life tied with the feminine Kannon.

Miko is something much more interesting and smarter than a transition story of the MtF kind.

How ZUN came to make such a cynical depiction so tied with Taoism is something I haven't been able to decipher yet, but Shoutoku Taishi was very much into other Chinese strands of thought too, even if Buddhism was his primary driver.

>>49690946
ZUN seems to have a problem with Taoism specifically, the Taoists are the designated slandered faith every time they appear.

>>49690946
Thanks for clarifying, anon. Now, it's clear that Miko is a transwoman and no one can dispute that fact.

>>49691006
But Miko isn't a tranny. Male to female trannies aren't women but Miko is.

>>49690946
Taoism and Japan is a very tough topic to study. The main reason is that two extreme sides of the argument can be true: Either taoism has never reached Japan, and merely similar things developed independently, like onmyoudou written 陰陽道, or taoism is so deeply rooted in Japanese culture that it's melted in many subtle aspects of it.
Taoism is also a doctrine that stands against the principles behind Reimu's actions. Taoists aim for eternal life (metaphorically), and believe human action is almost always a detriment to nature, that we must observe it and not disturb the natural course of things. It's a doctrine of inaction. Whereas Reimu is an interventionist, who will act and exercise power to restore equilibrium when imbalances are observed.

>>49690847
Wait, there is a fanfic thread? Let's drag that horny dragon banter in there! That should be funny!

>>49688299
I remember the thread we once had about how the human village could be using processed humans to help with their production of salt and sugar.
When the real answer is like the Kappa, they probably make some and supplemented with stuff bought from the outside world. Ignoring the fact the Kappas kept killing humans to harvest their ass salt since they probably stopped after Kasen pointed out they could just use the salt they bought for their salt water lake.

>>49691742
You have eyes but cannot see Mt. Tai.

>>49675631 (OP)
I want to know more about Youki

>>49675631 (OP)
Kasen's ability is pretty interesting and ita new description by ZUN in the fortunes sounds pretty bonkers
She can basically do a "potential unlock" on you if you follow her instructions, and based on the manga (particularly the fairies one) she appears in it even works on animal youkai, the only exception being fish (from her own words, so it's at least not as effective for them assuming it's not just oni instincts to be afraid of fish heads)
More interestingly, humans are animals in the animal realm, primates specifically. This means Kasen could tell a person exactly how to become their ideal self, but only if they listened. It completely recontextualizes her nagging to just be a poor way of communicating what are usually her best intentions. Conversly it's not impossible that this ability let her accrue enough wisdom to become a hermit, assuming she didn't somehow get it by being a hermit.

>>49690946
I am pretty sure that the taoism part comes from Honchou Shinsen-den. Also touhou doesn’t have much to say about taoism. It focuses narrowly on xianhood.

https://shrinemaiden.com/index.php?topic=728.0

Good writeup about Reimu.

>>49675631 (OP)
Most of 2hus stink, especially Yukari.

>>49693336
Imagine the reek of being the one to pull her out of bed after winter... Ran must have plumber grade nose plugs...

>>49693336
>Most of 2hus stink
Still has to be the funniest ZUN lore drop

>>49694091
I don't think he said all of them, just Orin and Yukari specifically.

>>49694191
I could be misremembering but didn't he say most of the people in old hell stunk?

So, what happened to the occult balls after the events of ULiL?
Could they perhaps be used to destroy the hakurei barrier, considering their ability to bypass it?
Actually, whats the most reliable way to destroy gensokyo's yokai as a human? I always thought it would be cool if someone made a doujin of an outsider going to gensokyo and killing all 2hus but in ways that make sense. Im tired of grimsokyo slop where "ohhhh le ebil yokai eats humans" I want to BE the eldritch horror.

>>49694238
why do you want to breast expand an eldritch horror

>>49694240
so funny lolmafo jajajajajaj XD

>>49694191
Suika and Yuugi also stink
I don't think Kasen does though, not only does she have a garden but she seems like someone that'd care about it for the sake of appearances

>>49690946
>>49690946
Also
> cynical
ZUN's favourite manga is Tezuka's "Phoenix" and it didn't shy from criticizing state-mandated buddhism. So maybe that's where he got the idea from.

>>49694194
he more specifically said that if you look at them, you can tell which ones stink, which might actually be more deranged than if he'd just said they stink

>>49694381
Aroma so potent even photons avoid them.

>>49694351
Doesn't Yuugi run the onsen in Old Hell? She obviously can't smell too bad, other than the perpetual booze stink.

>>49694616
You ever smelled volcanic springs? Not all of them, but a lot are extremely sulphurous.

>>49688505
She's often called Marie in Fate Grand Order.

>>49693270
>Story tries to pretend Reimu isn't a raging sociopath complicit in mass murder.
1/10.

>>49694629
>schizo tries to pretend the gospel of dishwashers will save humankind
0/10 bait

>>49694629
>>49695093
better place for you >>49695075

>>49693336
>>49694091
>>49694191
>>49694194
>>49694351
Keep in mind they are not “stink” the way you think they are, they “stink” the same poisonous gas stink. Satori stink because she is managing literally dead people and corpses

>>49695254
Satori has a desk job and a weak body, I highly doubt she does much if any work themselves.

>>49675631 (OP)
Based on interactions with vengeful spirits in CDS, it is revealed that Koishit is not actually thoughtless and has a certain degree of common sense.

>>49695473
Shit posted the wrong pic...

>>49695480
You accidentally posted the real thoughtless girl with no common sense.

>>49695378
She is around dead people all day, it’s her job

What did ZUN mean by this anyways
https://youtu.be/XTp4QX_rZ7E

Does this also have to do with the fact that Zanmu proclaimed Reimu to be Gensokyo's ruler?
The phrase "crowned with glory (and honour)" comes up a lot in the bible as well, so are we getting Amakusa Shiro?

>>49700485
>so are we getting Amakusa Shiro?
That would be pretty neat honestly

>>49675631 (OP)

>>49675631 (OP)
>What are some parts of touhou lore you like or find interesting?
The part where Kaguya, Tenshi, Sakuya, Alice, Yuuka, Reimu, Sanae and Aya are in love with me

>>49700485
>>49700636
I'm so glad the japanese killed those retarded christians. Reimu isn't christian, she's a pagan.

>>49708975
She's the equivalent of an ss officer enforcing the rule of an oppressive authoritarian state that exists solely for the sake of oppressing humans.

>>49708986
We ought to deport you to Albania.

>>49708975
Ronin and peasants backed up the Christians against Matsukura Katsuie and Matsukura Katsuie was stripping his title and beheaded for his abuse of power.

>>49691824
I find it strange how much Taoism has influenced Japan but very little of it is known in Japan.
Most Japanese magic rituals are based off Taoism like onmyōdō, shigandang, shugendō, even the widely practiced ritual of setsubun (節分) where chanters repeat "Demons out! Luck in!" has its base in Taoism.

Taoist fulu charms became ofuda in Shinto.

>>49708986
oy vey, the youkai SS are literally holocausting the poor humans with holocoasters (moriya ropeway) and death pools (hot springs). all their belongings were taken and hoarded by the youkai nazis (special markets overseen by a qt dork goddess). it's anudda shoah!!! we need to liberate them and teach them (((modern values))).
yeah you're just retarded.

>>49675631 (OP)
I wanna see Reimu’s bloodline elaborated on more than anything else, that’s always interested me. I wanna see more of gensokyo prior to spell card rules. It’s why I like parts of CDS.

>>49717477
Her mom got turned into a bed frame.

>>49717477
ZUN's not the writer for it but damn do I wish we got to know what Reimu's thoughts really are on getting to see her predecessor at work.
Considering she's the only living Hakurei it would've been interesting to see her have a proper visual confirmation of her family's history beyond old hags making cryptic statements at her.

>>49717622
>ZUN's not the writer for it
Anon...

>>49717622
>>49718166(me)
To clarify, ZUN IS the writer, meaning we'll get fuckall explained.

>>49718166
>>49718308
>>49717622 (me)
to clarify, I mean ZUN's not the kind of writer to explore that sort of thing and even if he did, he probably wouldn't do a great job at it

>>49718333
>>49718308
>>49718166
To clarify, all of this is me.

>>49718166
>>49718308
>>49718333
The phrase "ZUN's not the writer for it" here, I believe, meant that ZUN wasn't the correct writer if you want an exploration of the convept being explored. Not literally ZUN isn't the writer.

>>49718714
Masterful intuition and explanation, Anon.

well, I'm glad we got that one figured out. good job, boys

>>49695254
mizuchi probably smells the worst

Misumaru will reappear someday

>>49721121
Misumaru balls.

>>49717622
Actually looking back, the event in FS just keep making more sense as we saw what happened in the past. The Hakurei have always been soft on traitor, you can see how Mizuchi literally betray humanity even worse than Fortune Teller, but the Hakurei Shrine maiden still wanted to keep the door open for her
So it made sense that Yukari would want to test Reimu's stance on similar scenario in FS, she merely wanted to see if Reimu would forgive Kosuzu

>>49721121
It's interesting to think about if the previous Hakurei had a group of people she hang around similar to Reimu now

>>49724555
She probably lived when the Hakurei Shrine still had other Hakurei family members living there, along with the Miyadeguchi family.
Things were more brutal back in her day. She probably killed more youkai than she befriended.
Honestly, I kind of wonder if she and Reimu would even get on. I think Reimu's ability to befriend youkai and let them all live might get on her nerves.

>>49721121
I would like to see more of her given her connection to the Hakurei Shrine and lineage.

>>49688187
Reimu is only correct in that a privileged 1% including her get to go on cool fantasy adventures (including her best friend who is probably already a youkai after one elixir too many if her fight with Flandre is any indication) while the remaining 99% have to toil as practical peasants.
Nepotism.

>>49721121
>>49724613
I need this like I need caffeine in my veins.

Jackalman lore

>>49725776
you mean the small fry youkai have to toil?

>>49725776
>while the remaining 99% have to toil as practical peasants.
Judging from the background characters/literal who's we see, most of them seem fine. Harvests blessed by gods, yokai doing business with humans, dirt cheap health care from the universes greatest doctor. But, I know you won't accept that. Grimsokyo and all that.

>>49725883
Gross tho

>>49724608
idk, could be that it was mostly humans hanging around, but she might also have been the one starting to befriend youkai. After all the no human attacking to preserve youkai rule was established on her time (according to Mizuchi).
What I wonder though is how the shrine looked in the past since iirc Aya said something along the lines of the shrine being tiny and faded in the past.
Not sure when in the past exactly, nor how which sizes ZUN really thinks of since the shrine changes depending on the artist.

>>49675631 (OP)

Who are the characters that ACTUALLY hunt and EAT humans? No ifs or butts.

>>49752442
Tengu, Kitsune and Oni hunt and eat humans with their vaginas, penis first.

>>49752442
Honestly, we don't know anymore since ZUN just retcons everything

>>49752442
I have a better question:
Which 2hus had sex canonically?
>Suwako
>Junko
>Yorihime
>Watatsuki
>Seiga
>Miko
>Futo
Those are some of the obvious ones, but I'd wager that the three onis also did their thing

>>49756820
me with all of them

>>49758149
Johnny Hearn?!

>>49756820
>>Suwako
Not necessarily, kami work in bizarre ways.
>Miko
>Futo
And, for that matter, >Tojiko
Their historical inspirations did all have children, but ZUN said in an interview that they aren't the same people, just have the same names, so...

>>49675808
>Ran being ex yakuza
Source? I've never heard her being that...

>>49760423
th19

>>49675631 (OP)
Hifuu has so much potential to be a sick as fuck SMT knockoff, ZUN should embrace his inner 17 year old again and be blatant and unapologetic with it

>>49760362
>Suwako
Both Suwa and Moriya clans claimed to descent from gods. But this doesn’t have to mean physical procreation. Here’s an example of the Suwa Myōjin/Takeminakata legend (with reservation that Suwako takes more after Moreya):
> At the beginning of the god's manifestation, he took off his robe, put them on an eight year old boy, and dubbed him 'great priest' (Ōhōri). The god declared, "I do not have a body and so make this priest (hōri) my body."
This [boy] is Arikazu (有員), the priest of the sacred robe (御衣祝 Misogihōri), the founding ancestor of the Miwa/Jin (神, i.e. Suwa) clan.
As you can see it’s more of a symbolic relationship.

>>49761621
Didn't know Suwako's husband was a shota.
I guess that's why she takes the form of a loli.

There is a small tree in Kaguya's house of the Udonge species. These trees grow in the lunar capital and are normally barren, but upon detecting impurity nearby, they sprout precious, gleaming jewels, which help detect beings other than the moon. Kaguya tries to make her small Udonge tree bloom after revoking the spell that stopped the passage of time on Eintei, as a way of accepting that she is now an inhabitant of a impure land. The tree could also be the reason why Eirin added "Udonge" to Reisen's full name.

>>49762619
Yeah, it’s a metaphor. She flourishes in contact with Gensokyo.

Supposedly Mamizou is terrified of the outside humans and id like to know why.

>>49765494
Considering she only moved to Gensokyo recently, she probably saw what happened to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and knows what humans are capable of when pushed too hard.