Thread 49686514 - /jp/ [Archived: 287 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:19:36 PM No.49686514
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What went so wrong with Japanese electronics and technologies?

20 years ago, companies like Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, Hitachi, Sharp, Sanyo, Casio, Hitachi, Olympus, Seiko, Sharp, NEC etc dominated the electronics industry but today they are a mere shell of what they used to be like

>refrigerators, washmachines, vacuums, batteries, and air conditioners
>Laundry machines, including washer-dryers
>lithium-ion and flash memory your phone uses were created by Japanese
>Hitachi Building Systems is the second largest manufacturer of elevators in Japan
>DSLR cameras
>LCD
>LED blue light
>fiber optic communications
>the first bullet train (Shinkansen)
>CD was created by Sony based on PCM sound source
>Video Home System (VHS), which preceded the DVD, was invented by Victor Company of Japan
>DVD (1995 - Sony e Philips)
>Toshiba's HD-DVD
>Blu-Ray discs
>Flash memory - created by Japan
>J-SH04 – the world's first camera phone capable of sending picture messages
>Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, GameCube
>SEGA MEGA DRIVE, SEGA SATURN (2x Hitachi SH-2 @ 28.63636 MHz), SEGA DREAMCAST (Hitachi SH4 chips)
>Ken Kutaragi and PlayStation
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:26:20 PM No.49686536
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>>49686514 (OP)
China uber alles.
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:27:39 PM No.49686541
Japan reached the 2010s in the 90s and never actually moved forward
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Anonymous
7/8/2025, 1:52:39 PM No.49686627
>>49686514 (OP)
japanese companies are ultra conservative and kind of stifle innovation

bubble bursting & foreign competition did them in, i'd imagine, at least globally compared to korean & chinese stuff. yknow how the saying goes, japan was living in 2000 in the 80s and is still living in 2000
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:42:04 AM No.49689592
Economist here. Consider the following generalizable observations in any given market:

1) When something is a commodity product (economic meaning), economic profit (above average returns on investment compared to any other activity) goes to zero.

2) Firms will continue to enter a market until economic profits (rent) goes to zero.

Every single one of those manufacturers you listed used to make something that was new and rent making (above average returns to investment). As the technology got old, it became a commodity that anyone can make, often cheaply as disposable junk. Firms then naturally leave the market and stop producing and the only manufacturers left are those that specialize in producing at the lowest cost, usually at the poorest quality (Chinese).

Think of new and upcoming areas in technology today, aside from bullshit designed to swindle investors, those are the firms to watch. They are the Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, Hitachi, Sharp, Sanyo, Casio, Hitachi, Olympus, Seiko, Sharp, NECs of today and tomorrow
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 5:03:45 AM No.49689647
>>49686514 (OP)
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:07:18 AM No.49690163
>>49686514 (OP)
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:37:48 AM No.49690216
>>49686514 (OP)
Brain drain. God tier Japanese engineers just flee to the US where they will get paid much more and won't get fucked over by their employer. The inventor of the Blue LED is the most famous case, he created something worth BILLIONS and all he got from his boss was a $180 bonus.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:56:38 AM No.49694163
>>49690216
Tbh the number of Japanese engineers working for US companies seem pretty small esp given language barriers and compared to their Chinese or Korean counterparts. Unless its really creme de la creme here.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:24:50 PM No.49694863
>>49686514 (OP)
China crap being cheaper.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:06:24 PM No.49695577
>>49686541
>Japan reached the 2010s

lmao not even, they're barely touching the 2010s now with actual functional online banking, what a bunch of fucking retarded insects
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 12:05:03 AM No.49697081
>>49690216
Not to be a nerd, but that is just what happens when you are employed to develop stuff. If you want to file patents to profit off of, you need to develop them on your own money, or as the head of your own company.
If you are employed by a university to conduct research for example, anything you discover is the property of the university unless you use a company as a middleman, which is why startups exist.
None of this is unique to Japan or the US, it's just that the japs are usually too scared to take on the risk of pitching stuff to investors or university boards.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:07:18 AM No.49702912
>>49695577
They've adapted to social media etc pretty well
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Anonymous
7/13/2025, 4:57:55 PM No.49708705
>>49689592
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 5:13:17 PM No.49708806
The moment when a conservative culture can't move forward eternally because they have to spend too much time and effort preserving their millennial traditions. It's basically the same thing happening in France and the opposite of the culture in America
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 7:02:09 AM No.49711715
>>49702912
Which isn't a good thing, we need flip phones with no internet to become a thing again.
Anonymous
7/14/2025, 6:07:04 PM No.49714149
>>49686514 (OP)
Japanese electronics declined mainly due to the rapid rise of South Korean and Chinese competitors offering cheaper and better alternatives .
Anonymous
7/15/2025, 7:40:02 PM No.49719031
>>49686514 (OP)
wh*te w*man