Guide: learnjapanese.moe

Why are you learning Japanese?

Previous thread:>>49792093

first for japanese

second for english

>>49802542 (OP)
who says im learning japanese?

because オランダ語 は クリンジ です

>>49802627
amerilard

so I say I hate my mother tongue and the response is to call me an amerilard
(あなた)はバカです

havent been here in a year
is it still dogshit?

>>49802707
forgive me for not giving a shit
>>49802766
>havent
stop lying

whats the dekinai to dekiru ratio on djt?

>>49802782
everyone else/me

>>49802766
yh

>>49802782
me / everyone else

>>49802782
less than the vocaroo ratio which is very low

smiling through it all

whats your daisuki na book (not manga)

>>49802924
テニスボーイの憂鬱 is a good one

アニメタコピー不朽のアニメ殿堂入りかな

１０年はこすられそう

>>49802766
no

is there a japanese movie like fight club?

>>49803102
no by theres a ripoff version called scrap heaven

>>49803152
川島教授いつまでポリポリしてるんや :-[

>>49803040
wife

>>49803152
chubby lil finger

>>49803183
親指というんよ
第一指でも

thumb thumb :3

>親指
parent finger?

>>49803221
fatherless finger more like lmao

Has HiNative ever made its way into the conversation here?

It’s a bit like Quora but for language learning. They have an option to have native speakers correct your writing but it’s only for paid members.

You can still ask for corrections if you use a “blank” template. Lots of people do this.

Getting native feedback on your writing is very useful for learning.
It’s probably good to clarify whether you are aiming for colloquial/casual, formal, or neutral, especially when having your Japanese looked at. It can determine the way people steer you when they give corrections/advice.

>>49803322
buy an ad faggot

添削は心を鬼にせねばならぬ( ｰ`дｰ´)ｷﾘｯ

>>49803385
>english subs
kek

脱スマホしたいな

>>49803392
ゲボの味(;´д｀)ﾄﾎﾎ…

On anki is there a way to preview new cards but only have to answer them right once to "finish" them?

>>49803375
I don’t even use it anymore. I just thought it was a legit good way to supplement your learning/acquisition.

If I purely wanted to advertise it and get paid members, I probably wouldn’t have mentioned the workaround that lets you get “paid” functionality for free.

>>49803482
vocaroo

>>49803528
in order to request a vocaroo you must first make one

>>49803537
i have made several

>>49803541
there's no way to verify that what you're saying is true
and i don't get it, if you have made several why is recording one now such a no-go for you?

>>49803397
>>49800917
>>49802283
this is helping me learn Japanese

>>49803553
im with my wife

>>49803553
because hes pretending to be me

>>49803306
unko this is fat and ugly...

豪快な肉汁！ ;O

>>49803754
low test
>>49803760
いっぱい食べて太ってほしいな

Da Godfather
@TheMadd86crew
Keep confusing my main account with my hentai account,

>>49803528
Just got back to this thread. What do you want me to say on Vocaroo? I’ll gladly record something for you if it’s just for the purpose of showing that I’m a real person with no particular agenda.

Ngl, at first I thought your comment was just saying Vocaroo was a good site for learning with. I’m not a very frequent 4chan user, which is also why I asked if people had ever talked about HiNative here in the first place.

>>49803839
explain how hinative is helpful in japanese on vocaroo

>>49803843
stop interrupting the daily english thread

>>49803839
say something in japanese like

初めまして、アノン様です

ごきげんようアンドありがとうございました

どうぞよろしくお願いいたします

>>49803843
https://voca.ro/1mh4OuzAbmOo

>>49803870
he said in japanese you retard

>>49803477
Click 'uninstall'

>>49803843
Whoops, I missed the part about you wanting it in Japanese.
I made the last part Japanese anyhow, without realizing that’s what you had said to do for the whole clip.

>>49803870
you sound gay but your japanese is pretty good

Or rather my brain parsed it as “helpful in Japanese” rather than “explain in Japanese”.

or rather ydkj mr. ちょっとまあなんかちょっとまあ

>>49803887
I’m sitting in an open area with strangers, so I was trying to talk in a moderately hushed fashion. Also was fishing in my head for shit to say and trying to make the clip sound fluid as well. Probably why I sounded gay.

>>49803893
I plead the same reasons for that too, lel

ayo bros how do i rizz up a qt skinny poland milf.

daily immersion:

おばけなんて ないさ
おばけなんて うそさ
ねぼけたひとが
みまちがえたのさ
だけどちょっと
だけどちょっと
ぼくだって こわいな
おばけなんて ないさ
おばけなんて うそさ

real immersion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCk6sNTILc

real emersion: https://youtu.be/HXSJXePhwo4?si=TQbQOld7Jf3RS6Ef

>>49803934
>>49803939
Watching a variety show would be more useful immersion than both of those things imo.
May be harder to figure out what is being said, but that’s what subs are for at first.

Anyone who laughs at others for needing subs is like a kid laughing at a 3-year-old for still needing training wheels. Yeah, they lack your skill, but everyone starts somewhere.

>>49804033
variety shows suck sorry

stfu

>群青色
>湯桶読み
i seriously hope you guys don't do this

タコピーのキーホルダーほしい

夏コミいったら誰か自作してるかなあ

daily reminder i am cucked

>>49804217
soon we will all be
enjoy free internet while it lasts

>>49804217
just upload your id card when they implement that stuff

>>49804232
dropped it after the tranny episode(s)

>anime about cosplay
>includes cross dressing
who would have thunk

>anime about hot female wearing slutty dresses for horny teenager boys
>suddenly a fucking troon out of nowhere
bikkurishita

they have a ochinchin (*ﾉｪﾉ)ｷｬｰ

tiny ass cig

>>49804261
you (as an american) don't know what normal sized portions look like in food and in vices like smoking

>>>/a/

remember when matt tried convincing people to watch terrace house

lol lmao even!

>bunpro
>ai generated voices
why do people keep using it

>>49804292
never watched it but i like YOUs voice
dream would be playing pachinko and smoking cigarettes with her all day and then fucking in a 公園トイレ

*sniff*

uooooooooooooooh

>>49804299
because it MASSIVELY accelerates your japanese gains

just realized yesterday was バニーの日

*started

might be time to spend the 5k yen and take the real computer based kanken 2

>take the real
>computer based
loser

>>49804446
it counts as the same certificate

is matt beyond native level in terms of reading ability?

>>49804461
havent seem him read something since the qm stream which was years ago where he did badly

how do you guys prepare listening material for commute and such? and what kind of material do you use? i don't have a phone contract so there's usually no internet for me when I'm out and about, so I need to start preparing audio in advance and put it on my phone as mp3 or something.

make a free audible account
scrape everything

>>49804483
i use yt-dlp to download some youtube playlist, some radio or podcast playlist usually, and then put it on my phone via syncthing or a usb connection.

>>49804414
oh no..

>>49804483
podcast app and i just download podcasts for natives like
天才ピアニストのむぎゅっとぷくっと
大久保佳代子とラブブララブ
紅生姜は好き好き
三四郎のオールナイトニッポン
etc

i watch 1h daily of jp subbed bleach, how long until i'll become fluent?

>subbed bleach
souless

bleach had some good openings

>>49804505
depends on your current level and definition of fluency

claim to watch the video! >:3

>>49804547
>fluency
i wanna talk like ichigo does

62
anon strawberries cant talk

>>49804467
calling misreading a particle bad is like dogpiling you for saying tougimiti

haha 63 so funny xdddd upvoted

>>49804505
With only one hour a day, and if that is your only learning source, then a fast learner might graduate subs after about two years.

Without any other input, your Japanese will forever be missing some key vocabulary for formal speech that just isn’t going to come up in Bleach but that you would use with some frequency in the real world.
On the same trajectory, you would possibly be fluent after like 15 years, but would still be severely challenged if required to do things like pass a job interview.
You wouldn’t fit into society because you aren’t able to speak with the class of a normal grown adult. Anime alone will never equip you for that.

>>49804562
nan... dato...? :O

>>49804571
i don't care about normies, i wanna larp as ichigo while talking to my japanese tulpas

just immerse more than an hour

>>49804564
he didnt just read a particle wrong he was struggling all the way through reading a moege

>>49804576
At no more than one hour a day, still would take like 8 years before you sound convincing.

With no grammar instruction tools, it would also be one hell of a time trying to figure out how/why things even mean what they do.

>>49804597
forgot to mention i already know japanese like at n2/3 level when it comes to reading/listening, i just wanna learn to talk at that level too

who the fuck does queef think he is deciding how matt can or cannot do business? and he plastered false/distorted defamatory bullshit about him on his server for a long time. queef literally broke EU libel laws and matt should sue the shit out of him. he'd win.

queef/quizmaster/qm i'm triggering your telegram bot, there's an anon talking shit about you

>>49804603
even n1 is nothing especially when it comes to output
just input more and output more thats all you can do

>>49804603
Speaking ability requires speaking practice.
It’s VERY true that your output will never be natural without a lot of input, but it will also not reach its full potential without actual speaking practice.

>>49804603
your speaking ability can never be more than a tiny fraction of your comprehension ability because you can only output a subset of your input ability and the first step would be to increase your input ability, you should be AT LEAST n1 level and comfortably read light novels before trying to output but yeah after that it's practice, you obviously won't get good at speaking if you never do it (like me) but setting up the foundation is also important

>>49804613
>>49804616
i mean i shadow ichigo when he talks pretending it's me for 1h daily

>>49804627
would be more effective to do that for 5 minutes and talk to natives for 55

>AT LEAST n1
yeah, all japanese kids are n1 lmao. sasuga copemaster

>>49804634
yeah lol by the time kids are speaking at the level you are aiming for they've input 10x to 100x the amount of japanese you have lmfao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bPdZtm7m4g
fireworks bruh

>>49804640
so you don't need to be AT LEAST n1?

concession accepted lil q

comparing to kids isnt fair they are extremely fluent after only a few years of learning

>>49804644
they're literally light years ahead of what n1 level is dude

>>49804643
肉汁のナイアガラ大瀑布！ ヮ(ﾟдﾟ)ォ!

>>49804650
nta but for output yeah
watching 初めてのお使い is blackpilling af theres 4 yos who cant read kanji at all speaking japanese like its nothing
meanwhile you can pass the n1 easily without being able to speak any real japanese

>>49804399
sugoi

>>49804650
no, they wouldn't even pass n4 since the can't read kanji

>>49804650
To clarify, N2 is grammatically on par with what a native-speaking kid can do.
The vocab required to take you to N1 is vocab that most native Japanese speakers learn in high school and above.
Perfect comprehension at an N2 level would suffice in order to talk at something approximating the level of a kid.

You can complete a 4-year university program majoring in Japanese as a foreign language, and know all the grammar you need, and they say that prepares you for N3.

By no means is N1 the “base level”.

>>49804696
true
natives avoid learning n1 words until hs despite them being in almost all types of media for all ages

>>49804700
Eh, depends on the word.

And honestly, if you watch all kinds of media for all ages too, you’ll also pick up vocab that technically counts as N1 at a fairly early stage, if you aren’t shying away from committing new words to memory that aren’t relevant for the next JLPT you’re going to take.

>>49804584
my foot struggles through your ass

Also, remember how you learned your own native language.

It’s very unlikely that you learned very many words from hearing them just once, even at the age of immense neuroplasticity that was your first couple of years.
You heard all of them multiple times… *in multiple contexts*. That is the main key. The words you hear in Bleach will stick with you better if you also hear them in another series, or better yet, in a drama or a news segment.

yeah theres no way a syougakusei knows all n1 words unko retarded as usual

>>49804714
my point is tons of kids younger than highschoolers can easily pass the n1
sure retards and people who dont read at all will have lower pass rates but id imagine a majority of kids can pass the n1 much earlier than starting hs

>>49804739
hes talking about just passing it though

>>49804739
>syougakusei
Kunrei-shiki romaji is a fucking joke.
(Sorry, I’m allergic.)

>>49804483
watch your favorite anime episodes/scenes dozens if not hundreds of times then put the condensed audio of those episodes onto your mobile device

immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1ffz3ADSNI

where the fuck is bonglard?

>>49804761
condensing audio is so ngmi

>>49804794
but if you've watched the non condensed version a bunch that makes it ok

matt said its also ok if you're born gmi

でも英語って単語知らんと想像では導けんよね(´・ω:;.:...

>>49804748
If we’re talking about the listening section of N1, then yes. You are correct. Most elementary school kids would probably get a passing score.
I feel like someone who aced the hell out of all sections of N2 would also be likely to pass the listening section of N1, though.
Especially given that we just said kids have enough vocab to pass the N1 listening section, I doubt that anyone with a super-solid N2 vocab would crash and burn on it.

Vocab recognition at N2 level, listening comprehension at N1 level. I think that’s what we can conclude would be on par with a native-speaking child.

Who cares about an arbitrary qualification?

>>49804822
それな
なんだかんだ言って、語彙力が勝負だよね
何語においても

>>49804763
yooooo

>>49804840
Employers in Japan.

>>49804827
i mean did you never read books for adults in your language before hs?
the pass criteria for n1 is so low dude

you can easily pass n1 in 6 months yeah but that just tells you just passing isnt the right way to look at it

>>49804851
And? Are the employers from Japan in this thread with us right now?
Just admit N1 isn't worth measuring in a setting like this. It's a mark that you're past the beginner stage, maybe, nothing more.

>>49804864
anti social disorder

>>49804864
pro social disorder

>>49804696
bro i don't even care to discuss with retarded takes like this
ofc n1 is base level, have you passed n1? i have so i speak from experience and i know that japanese kids know tens of thousands of more words than n1 passers

I cant even pass n5

>>49804859
i dont disagree i just highly doubt most natives would be unable to pass it before they start hs

I cant even pass my fat ass through the buffet ticket booth

>so i speak from experience
kachite

kachite

>>49804864
They're under my desk blowing me off.

kids know more words in count than n1 passers yet dont know many n1 words, both can be true at the same time. failing to spot the distinction is undeniable proof you are low iq

>>49804907
mouth pussy wtf??

actually no proof is undeniable if youre low IQ enough

depends on who is doing the denying

>>49804827
>Vocab recognition at N2 level, listening comprehension at N1 level
In terms of reading-qua-reading you're right (an elementary schooler would struggle with all the kanji) but in terms of vocabulary itself this claim is crazy, a native 10-year-old is way beyond N1
This sounds like the sort of horseshit from people who believe the average adult knows less than 10k lemmas in their native language (the actual figure is 30-50k)

>>49804877
I guess I thought that achievement was more impressive than it really is. It’s hard to compare my ability now to what it was 12 years ago when I got N1. There have been no milestones where I went “Ha! That’s not something I could have done in 2013!”… but I’m probably a bit conceited and tend to overestimate what I was capable of in the past.

I do hear about Chinese people passing N1 because of kanji being intuitive to them but then not actually being able to speak for shit. So I see your point.

Reconsidering my stance on this one for sure.

do they have full knowledge of n1 vocabulary? no, so they are not "way beyond n1." simple

>>49804954
The tripfag is right, I passed N1 2 years ago and the average shitty middle school brat probably knows anywhere from 10-20k words more than the average N1 passer, who I assume would know about 15k or so. I definitely didn't have more than 20k when I passed it.

>>49804964
still its kinda like when someone like quiz and matt ankis some words the average native cant read and thinks that alone makes them beyond native

>>49804971
yes it is exactly like that

>>49804954
You passed the N1 12 years ago but you're still in DJT? What went wrong?

when i say anything regarding comparing myself to natives i word myself pretty specifically but i guess you can't avoid malicious people from purposefully misunderstanding

but i'll rephrase what i usually say which is that i'm better at KANJI READING than the AVERAGE native speaker
which means i am not better to speaking or writing or really anything else than a native speaker and that in the pool of native speakers there exist thousands of people better than me at kanji readings

its kinda like when japanese kids know words not tested on the n1 and some people think that makes them beyond n1

>>49804987
lol

its kinda like when i have no idea what im talking about and that makes me think im beyond n1

you cant be beyond something you havent mastered

>>49804981
Who said I was here to gain anything? I just wanted to leave tips and wisdom.

Same reason why I was on HiNative for a while, haha.

Haven’t been on 4chan in a while, period, and wanted to rant in the JAV thread.
Thought I’d stop in here for a spell today while I was at it. Probably won’t be here this time tomorrow.

you should always just aim to be better

bunch of turbo dekinais are talking again

>>49805022
so you will be here tomorrow but not at this time? or will be here at this time but not tomorrow?

>>49805025
I believe you mean turbo munous.
（無能）
lel

>>49805022
I take it you're extremely fluent then?

>>49805025
I believe you mean turbo 劣等人 (subhumans)
lmao

if you aim to get better and you do the right things you will inevitably end up at least as good as you want to be

>>49805038
My last job was at a property management company for apartments, where I hardly used any English. On multiple occasions, I made phone calls to brokers or guarantor companies, and they would ask for my name at the end of the call. I told them my name and they would be like 「あ...安堵さん？」which is the closest-sounding thing that could be a Japanese name. Their brain could not conceive of me not being Japanese.

(This is also thanks to having a good ear for both music and foreign accents.)

That reminds me. How many people here didn’t know that the Japanese ん is not an English “n” but more like a French “n”, where you just nasalize the vowel?

Select all that apply

>>49805070
i mean you are clearly an esl and i can tell that just through your text

>>49805081
Perhaps just sorely out of practice.

What makes you say that, specifically?

>>49805070
nice to meet you, ando-san? :)

>>49805057
HOPIVM howeverthoughbeit im ngmi and am continuing in spite of that because I enjoy learning

>>49805072
*sweats profusely* GULP
k-keishikiteki gobyuu no r-ei

>>49805085
>and they would ask for my name at the end of the call. I told them my name and they would be like 「あ...安堵さん？」which is the closest-sounding thing that could be a Japanese name.
>Their brain could not conceive of me not being Japanese.
>Their brain
and a lot of other weird phrasing/grammar/punctuation/tone

grok says 04 is not valid

>>49805104
are you esl? what?

>>49805070
>How many people here didn’t know that the Japanese ん is not an English “n” but more like a French “n”, where you just nasalize the vowel?
actually Japanese ん has several different realizations depending on the context i recommend reading the moraic nasal section on the japanese phonology wikipedia page

>actually Japanese ん has several different realizations
yeah like んgmi and majiんai

日本人そっちのけで日本人語っとるで…（ヽ´ん`）

>>49805123
wow who would have thought my haters don't even know basic japanese orthography fyi it's a な in majinai not a ん crazy the stuff people don't know here

>>49805130
お前ためになること一回も言ったことないくせに

135 んgmi

embarrassing...

>>49805165
oh nononono quiz bros not like this

posting here is an embarrassing waste of time
no exceptions

>>49805116
Yes, I know that.
The English “n” is also read differently depending on phonetic context. We don’t say it the “normal” way in words like “think”.

Granted, my statement was oversimplified, but my point was that at the end of an utterance or before a vowel, you hear it in its default form, which is that French-sounding nasalization.
Most English speakers never have that pointed out to them, and go for years without losing that part of their accent.

>B was playing chess (manipulating context and shared meaning), while A was playing checkers (insisting on the literal value of the pieces).

>>49805184
most jsls dont care about their accents and very few of make it far enough for it to be anything close to their biggest problem

>>49805165
bro not providing the full context making himself a clown lol
you really messed up bro

>>49805137
草

>>49804483
my phone remains within wifi range when i commute to the kitchen and the toilet

lil bro gave all his excuses to ai to save face

>>49805137
>>49805200
ひどい(´；ω；｀)ﾌﾞﾜｯ

can i conduct business in japanese? any day of the week

>bro blah blah
>blah blah bro
you know hes flustered

is suitsu kimasu the same verb as kuru, kimasu (coming)?

>>49805198
you didn't give it any context for djt, majinai or ngmi or how it relates to one of the speakers
nice self own bro

>>49805238
(・・、)ヾ(^^*) ヨシヨシ

I spent years thinking 崇める and 祟る used the same kanji and found it funny that they had opposite meanings

>>49805104
Do I sound esl to you on the Vocaroo recording? I can understand “slow-thinking” or “rusty as hell”, and I already got “gay” from someone else, but…

>>49805280
its still funny how close they are

>>49805284
yeah you do but you sound very good for an esl
that was me btw

>>49805284
>Vocaroo recording
which one

>>49805292

This one.
>>49803870

>>49805284
ai says hes gaslighting or esl himself

モザイク入りじゃ抜けねぇよ

thread is so bad im missing morbido rn

who?

bidos here

queef queefin
lard lardin
unko tardin
bido fartin

winner winning

winner out

lol

>>49805304
i see, i doubt natives mix you up for native though you have a clear acccent

https://vocaroo.com/1fXx85KPj2tO

>>49805401
tbf phone calls arent exactly high quality

>>49805408
painful

>>49805408
イケボしかおらんのかいなgaijins(;ﾟ∀ﾟ)=3ﾑｯﾊｰ

>>49805473
vocaroo

>>49805495
never happens >:3

my foot is about to happen upon your ass

>>49805506
it's neva neva sticky there desu! Xc

>>49805304
It was easier understanding you speaking Japanese than English.
I can get why somebody would confuse you for a native, though there's definitely a hint of gaijin there.

>>49805070
Nice LARP

鉱物沼ヤヴァい( ˘ω˘)ｳﾑｯ

>>49805184
>Most English speakers never have that pointed out to them, and go for years without losing that part of their accent.
this is absolute bullshit lmao, this is first day of learning kana information エアプ-san

>>49805546

>>49805561
jelly hater

>>49805566
けつねうろん一丁！ Σ:3

Literally nobody itt should be worrying about accent. When has an accent ever impeded your ability to understand English as a second language? Never. It's not an issue. Language is about understanding. If you can make yourself understood and understand others then no problem

counterpoint: queefs latest english vocaroos
pigdogese so thick no one has any idea wtf hes barking into the mic

>>49805408
what does be'meeh mean?

>>49805575
not caring about accent is fair but i do care

>>49805575
Some French ESLs are very hard to understand

>>49805590
If you're at a highly advanced level then sure, but learners shouldn't be worrying about it other than making sure the core pronounciation is comprehensible (which it naturally will be with enough practice and study so again it's not a problem).
>>49805595
Maybe, but I've never had to ask them to repeat something. The problem is just with the thick French vowels.

>>49805566
大きい にくですよ

>>49805588
means he wunna mehn

>>49804645
>become eroi after a few years of doing nothing

>>49805603
idk sounds to me like youre just coping about not having high standards

why are you learning japanese?

>>49805625
High standard is fluency. Every single fluent ESL I've ever met has retained part of their mother tongue's accent. Where's the cope?

>>49805646
who said im learning japanese? lol

>>49805646
because you guys are bucket crabs who will poke and bully and offer no help, and I want to prove you guys wrong out of spite

>>49805662
Based

:clown:

>>49805662
not true i help a lot of people on here

you called me an american lardass end quote

>>49805684
you are
>b-but already told yo-
vocaroo

Have there been any updates as far as the best places to read ongoing raw manga (of course volumes releases are on nyaa but I mean week to week)

>>49805646
absolutely would if she acted shy and cute but willing

>>49805700
i think there's weekly shounen jump dump on nyaa

>>49805700
nope

可哀想や

>>49805700
Purchase it locally. Don't support piracy.

>>49805727
holy based :3

>>49805727
holy cringe :skull:

>>49805699
いいえ, 骨太の オランダ人 です. 貴方 わ ばか です

>>49805741
amerilard confirmed KEK

how are you of all people fat shaming? you've been pretending to have a fat wife for like a year

>>49805198
>making himself a clown lol
esl moment

>>49805741
語尾だっちでオナシャスだっち！(*´Д`)ﾊｧﾊｧ

>>49805756
i wouldnt consider my wife that fat

hey guys look im toromi:

haha im going to pretend to be this random guy from 4chan for a year because he made fun of me one time or something なんだって(*´Д`)ﾊｧﾊｧ

この数ヶ月 日本語のインプットはほとんど少年ジャンプ漫画・アニメだった

>>49805763
馬の女 は とても きれい です ね

toromi amazes me

>>49805792
オグリキャップかわいい(*´ω｀*)

>>49805646
毎日毎日轢かれたカエルみてーなブス貼りやがってよこのカス
どっか別の場所でテメェのフェチを展示したらどうだ猿

lol

I have not touched my penis in over 3 weeks

you wanna man?

>>49805910

>>49805646
I saw samurai pizza cats as a kid and speedy was literally me

please no gore

>>49806003

what kinda mushroom is that

>>49805192
vegeta is so fucking based

Question cause I’m dumb: Does Mokuro only work with manga that have been processed by some team or can it scan any raw manga that has good enough scans

seethecel is to vegeta as quiz is to goku

no idea what that means kys

first reply decides it's name

>>49806458
nigero

>>49806458
Nigero

>quiz is to goku
oh yeah? then go super saiyan 3 mary. show me your power. pass kanken 1

a guy who doesnt have the discipline to lose and maintain weight definitely doesnt have the discipline to pass 1kyuu

ジャンプっぽい展開ではあるよね

タコピー消えるのって

お前も消えろ

flows with the wind and moves a rather fair distance. Where Parudia Hanekko came from isn't quite clear.

俺も消えたいけどいいかな？

>お前も消えろ

正

is that what your mom's thigh said?

デッドシットホール

東京湾に沈めてやるぞお前

Reading manga feels similar to watching easy anime
Yeah you’re not gaining anything but repetition of the simple shit until it’s second nature is also needed

Also it’s just fun

>>49806678
vocaroo

not to derail the japanese thread, but exactly how important are tones and pitch in chinese? i saw a video saying theres like 1200 pronunciation variations or some shit and i can't believe something with that much complexity and nuance would make or break somebody understanding you when you talk.

as an aside, the grammar though seems way more straightforward compared to japanese though when i was doing the comparisons in gpt.

>>49807016
Pretty important, but from what I heard you can just magically get used to distinguishing them if you just listen a lot, and people can mostly tell what you're saying through context even if you butcher them
The grammar is more straightforward, yes

>>49807016
i like china

nora here, thanks to whoever reccomended me Renshuu, the JLPT-style questions are preparing me for the real thing.

>nora here
who asked

thanks to whoever reccomended me the Nukige deck, the Ero-style questions are preparing me for the real thing.

it was me
you're welcome bro <3

>>49807065

>>49807062
stfu hater bitch

>>49802542 (OP)
Learn to make ChatGPT your Japanese tutor or be a dekinai forever.

>>49805408
>the first thing is... the bitch accent

>>49807148
>Learn to make ChatGPT your Japanese tutor

that's what i'm doing. My process is

>Step 1: Try to understand the sentence
>Step 2: use YomiNinja to capture the sentence
>Step 3: Paste it into chatgpt and check the grammar

it's a process that works for me. I would reccomend this process to others.

>>49807155
gotta ask chatgpt to optimize that process

just learned this grammar in Tobira, and now i see it in the wild!

>>49807162
yomininja supports extensions. we should make an extension that automatically queries chatgpt to check a sentence.

>>49807259
new stream when

>>49807270
if there's anyone else that wants a stream i'll do one. i fixed the voice situation so now my voice should be clear.

>>49807309
are you the guy that did that animal crossing stream a few months ago?

>>49807321
nope.

>>49807162
Dude, you literally only need to say "What does X mean" and if you need more details than what it gives you ask "Can we break down the grammar in X"

>>49807309
i demand a stream too

>it's another artificial fotm episode

>he asks the chatbot a question instead of giving orders

>>49806458
it's its
thought you were american
>>49806683
slop
>>49806813
i hate dykes

low test
if you had high test you would love dykes and even effeminate men

fascinating seeing how faggots cope with their existence

>>49807379
rokos basilisk o algo

@grok can i ask you a question

>>49807377
Stream is now live!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZD-fSin8WM

yooooooooooo

nora bros we are so back

another stream im not clickin

>>49807480
look ma we're on tv

I bet Nora's a pretty girl

i would totally marry her if that were the case

>>49807451
you're sharing only a corner of your screen

>>49807547
>>49807577
oh no...

it is a rule universally aknowledged that all djt streams must be done by dekinais

should we add you on the queue then?

niggamushi

>>49807577
she has assburgers tho

dekiniggai be quotin pride and prejudice but he aint got a pride of bitches

she also has a dick

quads confirm

based

you're all less than a o-deki on my left buttcheek

stfu

lil dekinai odeki

>>49807259
Is this a good game to play in jp if im just starting out

>>49807872
no, it sucks

>>49807872
anything with furigana will gimp you

and ignore every seething furiganacuck coping after reading this post

im him
im that guy
im that nigga

the /int/ thread has more posts in japanese than this shithole

>>49807881
:( it looks fun
>>49807912
ok but why though. im literally just starting out. i recognise all the words in that particular screenshot anyway but surely furigana helps with memory?

this is the dream team

time for anki, thanks for tuning into the stream

nora, are you a neet?

>>49807946
i have a job but i do also get neet bux.

>>49807872
>Is this a good game to play in jp if im just starting out

start with pokemon red.

>>49807980
thats a boomer game though, i dont want to play some game boy software, respectfully

>>49807954
etod
貧乏神に取り憑かれている
still got it

zoomers try to play something made before 2000 challenge (impossible)

>>49807998
youre going to make seethecel very proud

>>49808003
for me the cutoff is before 2015

>>49807998
play ocarina of time

>>49808003
shut up, i just wanted to ask about this specific pokemon, i want it to be modern 3d pokemon, ive seen clips it looks fun, stop the agenda
>>49808013
good game, dont want to replay though

backtalking, eh? looks like someone's feeling their oats today

wow my stream was ruined by a size mistake. i just fixed that for next time. rip.

>>49808029
Good morning gentlesir, would you like some tea and crumpets with your daily salt from the mines?

who are you talking to

how to say come look at my bugger collections. it's my most prized possession?

bugger, i meant booger i meant

46 lmao

>>49808046
i watched this live

you didn't

>>49808147
its not exactly unbelievable that someone in djt would watch a major japanese tv channel

we're all gmi

>>49808147
>>49808151
>>49808157
all lies

wotd: bump who toe :3

boring low effort shitstir attempt

>>49808180
stir stir ;3

>>49808208
how is he shorter than the average japanese man

>>49808208
he looks like hes mad at his mom for picking him up while he was having fun at kindergarten

so how was evo

we can do better than this djt i believe in us

>>49808226
thanks for saving this thread bro

corruption accepted _(,'3」∠)_

gothic or mincho?

>>49808263
no

>>49808293
>うちの学食は大（雑）?????????????
dekinai i'll go with mincho

>>49808307
大雑把

>>49808311
>よろ
>しくなく、（結）黒
not even nice line breaks

>>49808342
結果

>>49808359
holy shit true

>>49808362
驚いて

>>49808362
このフォントかわいいけど

よみにくいね

それはそうとしてタコピーがまだ伸びてる

caught up with dr stone kinda sad

>>49808396
しずまり百合で静まり返るところを知らないッピ(´ε｀；)ｳｰﾝ…

>>49808396
気が乗ったら見るわ

>>49808414
sad about how shit it is?

>>49808489
sad that i need to find some new chug now

chug on deez

>>49808519
im straight but i appreciate the offer

>>49808449
６話は急に畳んだな感すごいね

あと１分エピローグあってもよかったなあとおもうよ

>>49808469
それ結局見ないやーつ

>>49808590
何年後になるかは分からんが俺は見る
多分

>>49808519
toromi would be slurping them up in a heartbeat

cant be arsed to learn all those 四字熟語s and the ことわざs its over

>>49808716
just learn them naturally

>>49808716
kotd: when pigs fly :3

moe debunked all the ことわざs doe

moe didnt do jack shit but be an unpleasant person he was like proto seethecel he might even be seethecel

yh but hes right doe

>>49808747
pretty much yea

>>49808747
not true at all

>>49808747
nope moe was negative but he wasn't trying to hurt other people

>>49808747
moe is toromi confirmed

はじめからで

ロシアンルーレット４回成功して

メガミノキマグレ

チャンスまで行ったのに

さいご５０％はずした

すこー

>>49808790
かなＣ(´；ω；｀)ｳｯ…

>>49808790
it is of cool :3

bored so im rewatching konosuba which i whitenoised when i just started learning

>>49808899
what is your fucking issue nigger

>>49808891
to steal the gyarus' pantsu! >:3

>>49808805
女神に見放された

文字通り

南無阿彌陀佛

just heard 洗濯 as せいたく

>恐竜, the word for dinosaur, literally means "fear dragon" when you take the two kanji its composed of at their face meaning.
That's cute. I like that word.

>>49808960
>>49808961
who asked

>>49808960
gmi
>>49808961
ngmi

>>49808964
gmi
>>49808965
ngmi

>>49808964
>>49808965
>>49808972
ngmi

>>49808961
>>>49808960
From Ancient Greek δεινός (deinós, “terrible, awesome, mighty, fearfully great”) + σαῦρος (saûros, “lizard, reptile”).
Really quite adorable

>>49808961
>>49808986
https://youtu.be/4Z78BRj0l2o

always judge a video by its thumbnail

（；³；）⊃<さよならっピ！
∪∪∪

i'll miss the anime

今週も頑張りましょう！

>>49809054

>>49809025
i will never understand the hype for dino crisis, dinos were only scary during the time when jurassic park I released but not scary enough to make a horror game with them in it
i cringe at the idea of combinding dinos and horror lol

>>49809075
Hey, the Jurassic Park lightgun game was pretty fucking good at least. With a mix of railshooter + scary dinosaurs. If you didn't experience it then you missed out.

>>49809075
it was before my time i just like the commercial has a fat bba
dont really like survival horror in general id rather just read a vinny

wish i still had the post number of jamals essential core list of vinnies

>>49808961
wow its almost like they translated literally our word for it

和語

>>49809025
i was like
>wtf why is he saying deeno crisis
then i looked at the japanese lel

can you call yourself an anime fan if you skip the ed or op?

no one on 4chan does that

>>49809144
yup! >:3

>>49809144
depends on the song

lmao wtf they're releasing a new panty & stocking?

>>49809151
dame you just gave away you dont read the thread

im a さるすけ in irl

anyone enjoyed the nora stream?

didnt watch it unfort

idk about this usagispoon kanji phonetics deck. lots of kanji elements I'd be able to read inside of a word/full kanji that I can't read in isolation. maybe that means I should learn to read them in isolation, or maybe it means that isolated study is once again not worth it. then again, a japanese person can look at an isolated kanji and tell you an onyomi. it's only a hundred or so cards so whatever.

>>49809227
hi, im a monke too >:3

@unko
how does it feels to be a nihongo master?

>>49809267
英語わかんないけど(＠_＠;)

>>49809282
i dont consider myself a master
been going for close to 8 years and just now feeling like im at a place where the rest is just happening naturally
was a big confidence boost taking a 資格 in japanese including handwritten assignments

>>49809267
like what's the point of memorising this element as し when you're gonna be wrong 40% of the time and in those cases it's not just 1 other possible reading but 4.

>>49809136
>Our
Dinosaur is not an English word either, you retard.

>>49809295
weird how your reading was more ryuuryo during the stream compared to your vocaroos

>>49809144
no, it's part of the experience

>>49809296
旨　指　脂 are much more common
i'd up the confidence to at least 80%

>>49809307
meh the vocaroos people want me to make are always things like mareni and people here arent even capable of judging vocaroos anyway
really there is nothing of value here for anyone and any time spent here could be better spent doing something else

>>49809267
you learn those naturally by just learning words and noticing patterns though

>>49809328
stfu you have no idea social interactions like those here on djt are needed if you don't want your brain to rot away

>>49809332
you're just repeating what I said in that post. is your reading comprehension that low?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLM2ZgMNfw4

>>49809338
you are clearly considering doing it and i am speaking from experience saying its not worth it
dont be sassy faggot now

>>49809339
unko would not agree

why are 長手袋s with a finger loop so sexy bros?

>>49809350
because forearms are disgusting

"actually, you don't need to study Kanji, in fact it's gonna be a detriment" always sounds like it's coming from gigacoping people who just gave up because it's too hard. like yea, isolated kanji study is retarded, but you need to study kanji anyway. relying solely on pattern recognition will not get you all the way there. that's just the truth. people who don't make a conscious effort to understand kanji will probably never stop messing up 抑える and 迎える on occasion

>>49809328
shall I judge your vocaroos? (*´Д`)ﾊｧﾊｧ

osaeru mukaeru

>>49809339
>>49809360
the true answer is you need to do what natives do
and that is grinding them of paper over the years

>>49809360
>like yea, isolated kanji study is retarded, but you need to study kanji anyway. relying solely on pattern recognition will not get you all the way there. that's just the truth.
you are correct but the other anon is correct 2
you only need to study the kanji of the kyouiku kanji list (the 1k kanji taught to elementary school kids)
if you know these you will be able to passively learn all kanjis after that by simply reading more

>>49809365
>what natives do
I-I'm learning English now (ﾟＡﾟ;)ｺﾞｸﾘ

>>49809362
sure give me something to read
できれば数行分は欲しい

>>49809377
>数行
i take it this means some lines/few lines

but i have no idea what 数行 + 分 means

>>49809377
　私は、その男の写真を三葉、見たことがある。
　一葉は、その男の、幼年時代、とでも言うべきであろうか、十歳前後かと推定される頃の写真であって、その子供が大勢の女のひとに取りかこまれ、（それは、その子供の姉たち、妹たち、それから、従姉妹いとこたちかと想像される）庭園の池のほとりに、荒い縞の袴はかまをはいて立ち、首を三十度ほど左に傾け、醜く笑っている写真である。醜く？　けれども、鈍い人たち（つまり、美醜などに関心を持たぬ人たち）は、面白くも何とも無いような顔をして、
「可愛い坊ちゃんですね」

>>49809365
>the true answer is you need to do what natives do and that is grinding them of paper over the years
people like to leave out the fact that japanese people are already fluent by the time they start learning kanji

>>49809385
we're talking about kanji lmao

>>49809384
https://voca.ro/1mOpYdcLr1Uw

>>49809385
sure, but you can already start writing the elementary school kanji after you read yotsuba

>>49809390
yes, point is just that it's much easier to connect kanji to the language when the language has already been fully decoded in your brain, as opposed to having n5-n2 comprehension

>>49809389
>幼少時代
日本人と同じ間違いするのしゅごい :O

あとお題出したの誰や（；^ω^）

>>49809393
true, but 仕方がない
still think doing this approach is the most efficient
強いて言えば doing it at n2 comprehensions feels just right

>>49809389
sounds pretty good

it's been 100 years and I still have to trial and error こう/こ しょう/しょ etc. when typing words

>>49809405
nta but if you enjoy doing it then theres no problem
the real problem would be forcing yourself to learn how to write and then quitting because of it

>>49809381
so nobody knows either?

>>49809409
but would you say the same thing to someone who thinks they can just learn the language with romaji? in that instance, if they gave up because of learning kana, you'd just call them retarded.

>>49809411
not really a fair argument because you can easily learn how to read at a decent level without being able to write more than a few dozen of the easiest jouyou kanji from memory

japanese people become fluent without kana or kanji, so technically you can become fluent with just romaji too

>>49809422
trvthnvke few /djt/ers are willing to accept

>>49809075
horror is the only interesting way to make a live action dinosaur movie

>>49809384
You gave me ptsd quoting that awful self-pitying book. Mishima was right about Dazai in 不道徳教育講座:
>どんな強者と見える人にも、人間である以上弱点があって、そこをつっつけば、もろくぶっ倒れるものですが、私がここで「弱い者」というのは、むしろ弱さをすっかり表に出して、弱さを売り物にしている人間のことです。この代表的なのが太宰治という小説家でありまして、彼は弱さを最大の財産にして、弱い青年子女の同情共感を惹き、はてはその悪影響で、「強いほうが悪い」というようなまちがった劣等感まで人に与えて [...] これは弱者が強者をいじめ、ついの殺してしまった怖るべき実例です。

>>49809425
wrong, the only interesting way to make dinos work in movies is when they're used as military animals

>>49809426
mishima was literally a violent faggot who died for nothing tho

>>49809360
>people who don't make a conscious effort to understand kanji will probably never stop messing up 抑える and 迎える on occasion
you can easily tell them apart because of the line (or lack thereof) underneath the first character. would you call recognizing that obvious difference "conscious effort"?

>>49809435
i also dont like that example in particular but i do relate to the idea and agree with it
learning how to write helps a lot

>>49809435
>you can easily tell them apart because of the line (or lack thereof) underneath the first character
yes, an easy distinction to make when they're right next to each other, but not when they show up by themselves.

it's easy to make period if you read a lot and recognize a lot of characters.

迎え舌

>>49809453
i couldn't until I finally put them next to each other and took conscious note of the difference. just hoping that the brain interprets it correctly by intuitive pattern recognition alone did not work.

osaeshita

used to have a hard time with 網　綱

used to have a hard time with 人 and 入

>>49809060
下手くそ

>>49809467
you don't need to know either of those irl

^illiterate retard

博之ぃ一発やらせてくれよ
ちょっとだけでいいからさ、ケツ貸してよ

fag fag :O

how do i get around the dlsite ban? and why are only some products unavailable? are they blacklisting based on tags?

承認欲求に溺れてる女々しい奴だし女の子ってことでいいんじゃないですかね

vpn does it, though i've seen one or two products that also require you to have an account
i think they're blacklisting based on tags, but also occasionally go out of their way to hide a few products that have "safe" tags

how do I parse 「なんとなく、だけれどね」

四方山話

and why does my phone not take naturally upright pictures anymore that aren't only upright cause of exif data

>>49809715
just crop the image slightly before you upload it and that wont happen

no clue, if you ever find out how to fix it then please tell me too

>>49809705
do you know what なんとなく means

>>49809731
yea. but "for some reason or other, although..." doesn't make any sense to me

>>49809745
thats not really what it means
「なんとなく」は、明確な理由や根拠はないけれど、漠然とした感覚や直感的にそう思うことを表す副詞です。

im straight so i prefer real women
ノンケでよかったー

豚ァ！

>>49809705
>>49809745
ok my nihongonese friend said
>この人物Aはかすかな少年の声が聞こえた気がしたんでしょ？
>それは自分の気のせいかも知れない、けどそんな気がするって意味
but I think he seems to think that the author describing the voice of the protagonist is the protagonist thinking he heard a voice.
what the fuck.

>>49809811
近親相姦モノは犯罪やろ（#^ω^）ﾋﾟｷﾋﾟｷ

>>49809818
post the lines before the screenshot

>>49809818
>めぐみんを回収することで全会一致した
desu no! :)

>>49809827
yea I just realised that the page starts with a lone 聞こえてくる, no wonder he got confused

https://litter.catbox.moe/71wnow.wav

>>49809818
without any context i would agree that it seems like our protagonist is in some ethereal realm hearing strange voices or maybe hes facing some kind of introspection idk
なんとなく here just means "somehow or other" like hes beginning a thought

>>49809860
thoughts on >>49809389

>>49809884
not clicking sorry lol

タコピー６話でよかったよね

スーパーカブっていうアニメあったんだけど

後半超失速したんだ

もし６話だったら走り抜けられたかもしれない

>>49809860
the sentence before that is 緩やかな風で森かざわめく音だけが、闇を飾るように聞こえてくる。
so that's just describing the setting of the scene. anyway it's キノの旅 so I think キノ is just chilling in the forest talking to herself with a dim shonen like voice, when her partner responds "what do you mean by なんとなくだけれど, senpai？"

>>49809885
why not?

>>49809893
a gotcha
>>49809895
was it a wife vocaroo?

>>49809893
its less “what do you mean” and more “なんとなくだけれど what?”

>>49809905
nitpicking

>>49809905
you're just paraphrasing within the English language which is meaningless for this

>>49809906
not really
not understanding that is actually kinda the whole reason he was confused in the first place
>>49809904
maybe

>>49809891
まあまあだった
正直そーゆー皆くるちいよ皆かなちいよと必死に視聴者に訴えてくるアニメは好きじゃないけどタコピーの場合は製作者が意図もせず結構笑えるものを作っちまったんだよな、タコ野郎がぶん殴られながらいちいち「ぴぃぴぃ」と音を出したシーンとかは涙が出る程笑ったよ
テンポもよくて時間を浪費したりしなかったし百点満点の内60点ぐらいかな？少なくとも見ながら退屈しなかったよ

the final episode of Takopi was retarded and I give the show a 4/10 for good animation alone

>>49809910
nah he gets that the other voice is asking for more information just not how the adverb is going to feed into the next line
>maybe
you dont have a wife so i already know youre lying kek

>>49809891
イラストが明日ちゃんの人だったのビビる(ﾟＡﾟ;)ｺﾞｸﾘ

fotm slop that will be forgotten in a few years

メイク　ザット　マンツ

>>49809925
ロリコンは皆殺しでいいよね

make that mantz?

>>49809933
まだ死にたくない(´・ω:;.:...

>>49809944
匿名掲示板やめなきゃ
ここに俺の居場所はない

>>49809952
ぼくに英語教えてくれるって言ったじゃん！（言ってない）

gonna need jamals take on all of this

>>49809925
超絶に絵が上手いから

当時ざわざわしてた

>>49809968
何故後押ししてるんですかねぇ…

why are you all dekinai pedos

ファッキングファックアイアムノットデキナイユーステューピッドビッチ！

>>49810003
vocaroo

Dogura Magura reference spotted. It scares me to consider how often I come across literary and cultural references that just go over my head, that's the real N-∞ stuff

>>49810054
vocaroo

>>49810054
タガなんて漢字で書かにゃあで（；^ω^）

>>49810096
あれどんぐらい読めんの？

>>49810115
高校以降進んで漢字を覚えようなんてことないからN1相当かと( ･ิω･ิ)

>>49810136
満足に読めないってことでいいね？

are there any good android ebook readers with a popup dictionary? i tried moon reader, but whenever you tap something it selects the whole sentence instead of highlighting the proper word like yomitan

>>49810139
ふりがな振ってあるし読めるよ( ｰ`дｰ´)ｷﾘｯ
>t. クロちゃんカワイソス

>>49810054
i dont play cheap porn games so thankfully i never worry about this stuff

if the stuff in chuunige like mareni was relevant you wouldnt need to read chuunige to learn it

i do get the appeal of going all out and mining everything you possibly can but personally i want to perfect the basics first

>this KILLS /djt/

>>49810139
てか無駄に読みづらくね？倒置するなら読点入れてほしいね
言っていいのか知らんけど( ˘ω˘)

true, our days or crippling newfags are over

>>49810249
衒学的という表現が思い浮かぶな

god i love ai

>>49810149
https://reader.ttsu.app/ added to homescreen + yomitan

>goal for today
>learn 5 hiragana
based gpt using insidious stalling tactics

>>49810273
still better than d*olingo

>>49810267
that's what i already use, but i wanted to try something else. partially because ttsu has a few small but annoying bugs on mobile
i was kinda surprised i couldn't find anything
i bet the chinese have some app that didn't show up in my searches

>>49810266
not enough emojis

>>49810266
i love 愛 too

>>49810266
https://voca.ro/15L54Z5rn8wU

halfway through N4 grammar on Renshuu

our dream team is overpowered already

ai is hopefully gonna ruin the internet enough that all the cool people rebound to more irl socializing like before smartphones
wotd 希望的観測