Thread 63747658

Haven't really seen anyone bringing this up so just wanted to put it out there. Normally I wouldn't expect anything to actually come of this, but apparently they promised 8 planes by end of year. So presumedly Russia actually plans to deliver in short order and not just endlessly kick the can down the road. Of course, nothing is set in stone but the rather soon deadline makes me think this won't be the usual. We'll see soon enough.
Assuming it actually goes forward this would be a really interesting development for a few reasons. First, if Russia actually provides the goods and has a satisfied customer that would suddenly make the Felon a lot more attractive prospect for other nations, especially considering the blackeye Dassault took recently. Secondly, Algeria's only real rival is Morocco who is I think the oldest ally of the USA. If some sort of conflict were to ever kick off between them, the chances that the burgers would get some pretty good intel would be almost certain.
Disclaimer I shouldn't need to make and I fucking hate you that I have to: I'm not Chinese, I'm not Russian, I'm not Indian, I'm not Pakistan. There isn't some hidden motive to the thread. I just actually wanted to discuss arms sales and how that might shape a possible WW3. Fuck you faggots.

https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/russias-su-57-felon-stealth-fighter-is-on-life-support/

>>63747658 (OP)
>So presumedly Russia actually plans to deliver in short order and not just endlessly kick the can down the road

>>63747658 (OP)
Algeria ordered the SU57 something like 4 or 5 years ago, it is the intended replacement for their MiG25 jets.
>Su57 on life support
It was never on life support, this is a high priority program. Anyone saying otherwise is retarded, starting with the author of the linked article.
The reason the Algerian contract are going into the production phase now after 4 (?) years is because the initial production run with interim engines is done or almost done. The Su57M model is what the design specifications actually called for, the ~12 prototypes and ~14-20 serial aircraft delivered so far are the pre production versions, sortof. It's hard to say how many of what was made because some of the prototypes were pulled apart, put back together in the standard configuration and delivered for service. Once the new model is ready they will start switching some of the Su35 production lines to the Su57, along with the new facility that went online recently.
The Russians are supposed to acquire 78 (which includes the interim models) for their own air force before considering further orders, Algeria ordered years ago (12 or 24 units I think) and then there's the whole story with India which is fucking retarded. The Indians pulled out of the program which caused funding issues that delayed the whole thing by a year or two (potentially, maybe those retards would cause delays just by being there even though they're handing over the cash) and they decided to instead focus on their own stealth jet. Except they're fucking retarded and their stealth jet is like 10-15 years away and they are rapidly coming to the realization that they have no choice but to come crawling back to Russia and buy those planes anyway.
And there's a handful of places that might get them too like Vietnam, but that could go either way. And Belarus has the issue where they want them but it's a small country and these things are expensive so they don't know what they're going to do yet.

>>63748247
Belarus should just buy Chinese jets at this point. Thoughts on that?

>>63747658 (OP)
Su57 has no export variant or anything right? Just the standard model? Definitely one will end up getting trapped and analysed if it goes to North Africa

>>63748274
Belarus and Russia are part of something called the unitary state. I'm not quite sure as to how that works, but from what I understand Belarus buying from China makes about as much sense as Russia buying from China. Belarus doesn't differentiate much between Russian production and domestic production because they're integrated on a military level.
So no. That said, the J10 would fit their requirements better than the Su57. Modern Russian jets favor long range because Russia has a lot of ground to cover, while Belarus doesn't actually care about having such long range because it is a compact land locked country. They'd be fine with MiG35s, but that program actually is on life support and has been for something like a decade.

>>63748279
It's the same method as the Su30. Every country gets their own customized export model. So you'll have Su57 and Su57M for Russia, Su57A for Algeria, Su57I for India etc.
>trapped
In what way?
>analyzed
The Russians don't care, they are already planning on selling to India which will sell any relevant information to Israel under the table.

>>63747658 (OP)
> So presumedly Russia actually plans to deliver in short order and not just endlessly kick the can down the road.
They will give them those prototype planes and make zero Su-57 this year

>>63748247
It was on life support since it's inception, this is a low priority program that took more than 20 years for some useless prototypes. Anyone saying otherwise is retarded, starting with the author of the linked post.
The reason the Algerian contract are going into the production phase now after 10 (?) years is because the initial production run with interim engines is not done or almost not started. The Su57M model is not what the design specifications actually called for, the ~12 prototypes and ~3-4 serial aircraft delivered so far are the pre production versions, sortof. It's hard to say how many of what was made because some of the prototypes were pulled apart, put back together in the standard configuration and delivered for service(Probably the ones that crashed too). Once the new model is ready (so never) they will start switching some of the Su35 production lines to the Su57, along with the "new" facility that went online recently, if it doesn't go up in flames the next few months.
The Russians are supposed to acquire 78 (which includes the interim models) for their own air force before considering further orders. So they will never produce export models. Algeria ordered years ago (12 or 24 units I think) and then there's the whole story with India which is fucking retarded. The Indians pulled out of the program after they figured out they wasted billions on a scam, which caused funding issues that delayed the whole thing by a decade or two (potentially, maybe the russian retards would cause delays just by being there even though they're being handed over cash for their worthless mic). Except the russians are fucking scummy morons and their stealth jet is like 10-15 years away and they are rapidly coming to the realization that they have no choice but to pretend their retard plane is a 5th gen when it's 4th gen at best.


Fixed your retarded zigger shilling. Go suck a dick for 10 kopek

>>63748375
Fuck off retard.

>>63748279
At least they won't get shot down lol.

>>63748247
>>63748279
Iran didn't buy 3?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igaXsfQlYy8

>>63748784
Not that I know of. Iran ordered a number of Su35s to replace their old F4s. Talk of Iran buying Su57 (or 75) pops up regularly, but I haven't seen anything come of it.

>>63748247
It's hard to take a jet seriously when even the Indians are getting out.

>>63748286
I don't think you're well versed on this subject at all.
1/ Belarus already buys rocket and missile systems from China and produces them under license (see Polonez and Polonez-M). Buying jets would make sense if they can't get adequate jets from Russia.

2/ In the immediate years before 2020, and even during much of that year, Belarus and Russia weren't on good terms at all. Belarus even accused Russia of meddling in their elections leading up to it. It's only after the elections when the West turned on Belarus that Lukashenko ran towards Putin's embrace.

>>63748973
>I don't think you're well versed on this subject at all.
Yes I am

>>63748973
>1/ Belarus already buys rocket and missile systems from China and produces them under license (see Polonez and Polonez-M). Buying jets would make sense if they can't get adequate jets from Russia.
And both Russia and Belarus and Ukraine buy drones from China. You have no idea what a difference it is from rockets to Jets.
Furthermore, I will remind you that Belarus also has systems that it developed in cooperation with Ukraine, where the political distance is even more obvious. And further emphasizes how that was then and this is now.

>2/ In the immediate years before 2020, and even during much of that year, Belarus and Russia weren't on good terms at all.
I know exactly what you are talking about and it's entirely irrelevant. Belarus has for a long time tried to play the game of quasi neutrality, using the threat of foreign cooperation to get money and favors from its local hegemon, which is exactly what every minor nation does, most infamously Turkey. That policy was since discarded. In Belarus, I mean, Turks are still being roaches about it.
>It's only after the elections when the West turned on Belarus that Lukashenko ran towards Putin's embrace.
That's a particularly queer way to put it, but not entirely incorrect.
Again, unitary state. The divide between Russia and Belarus was always blown way out of proportion, much as it is done with Russia and China now, but now their military is integrated to the point where Russia is holding nukes in Belarus. There is no situation in which Belarus buys Jets outside of Russia. There is a situation in which Belarus gives up on jets entirely and buys Chinese drones instead, for example, but not jets. That's not actually going to happen either, they'll get their planes from Russia eventually.

>>63747658 (OP)
What picture has the most su-57s in the same picture?
Are there any pictures with more than five su-57s all in one picture?
Google doesnt provide an answer

>>63749404
You won't find more than 4 in the same place except maybe in the factory. Even this line is only doing 4 at a time. I think this image is in the old plant.
They generally deliver them 2 at a time and some of the deliveries had an image of the pair published so you can go count tail numbers if you actually care.

>>63750194
I have this delivery saved from whenever. Numbers 53 and 54.

>>63749404
Not that they made 54 of them. Delivery numbers don't start with 1, I don't know the numbering system but there are definitely not 50 of them already.

>>63747658 (OP)
Selling the family jewels to have some cash and kick the can down the road. Chips and golfcarts are now more "useful" to them. What will they sell next?

Flying bougnoules lol.

>>63747658 (OP)
ill wait to see on on algerian soil before i believe that they actually bought one and didn't just pay tribute

>>63748247
They did a MoU back then, this was the actual official sale with (presumably) money actually changing hands. AFAIK that had literally never happened before. I’m not trying to guarantee it’s going to happen but this seems a pretty positive indicator. Like I said in the OP though: we’ll have to wait to see what really occurs.

>>63748279
The article specifically draws attention to the fact they are to receive the Su-57E, an export version

>>63747658 (OP)
no refunds

>>63750484
>Zey ouill enter our airspèce wizout visas

>>63747658 (OP)
Algeria has been quietly modernizing for a long time. There is an impending water war and refugee catastrophe right on their doorstep. All those people will try to move straight through Algeria. All of North Africa is fucked really. I could see Algeria invading its neighbors eventually.

>>63751260
There is nothing quiet about the Algerian modernization program, they've put more of their budget into the military in response to the destruction of Lybia, which was like a decade ago.
Algeria is probably the best army in Africa and certainly the best air force in Africa. The only contender being Egypt and they're crippled by being next to Israel so the west is both unwilling to sell them any of the good stuff and they are under constant threat of sanctions if they buy Russian. This might change when they get new planes from China.

>So presumedly Russia actually plans to deliver in short order
Nigga are your own Su-57s doing operations? You started the project in 1999, as Vladimir Vladimirovich was coming to power, so these birds should be flying on every op 26 years later.

>>63751308
Have you looked at Nigeria’s AF? I am not saying they beat Algeria (they don’t), but they beat Egypt I think

>>63751308
>Lybia

>>63748299
>will sell any relevant information to Israel under the table
Israel is pro Russian. The second most common nationality in Israel is Russian. Israel told Ukraine to surrender. Israel provided no aid to Ukraine. Putin is Jewish by blood. Etc. Israel wouldn't ruin that relationship.

>>63751564
1. those jews that fled from the (ex) Soviet Union don't like that shit hole
2. there are no more Russian troops next to Israel in Syria. Russia has nothing to offer to Israel anymore. Israel is now sending Patriots to Ukraine.

>>63751260
>There is an impending water war
algerian adults use more water per capita than the western european
algeria gets it water from the sea (desalination process)

>>63747658 (OP)
They gonna get the plane, kick the tires and the bodykit will fall off, revealing the Flanker underneath.

>>63752023
>2. there are no more Russian troops next to Israel in Syria
Yes there are, the Russians never left Syria and are still in their naval base north of Israel.

>>63747658 (OP)
>Disclaimer I shouldn't need to make
don't make it, just ignore the mouth breathers who won't stfu one way or the other

in any case, is this a "sale" where russia parks a couple squadrons in algeria as a forward airbase? if i were putin, i would be making a lot more "sales"

Could see some action against Algeria's western neighbor as part of the diplomacy surrounding the Polysario Front.

>>63753412
>the Russians never left Syria and are still in their naval base north of Israel.
They've been gone for months, where have you been?

>>63753423
>don't make it
I've tried that but everyone shit all over the OP and when I tried to clarify the accusations were just reasserted and then the threads die.
>in any case, is this a "sale" where russia parks a couple squadrons in algeria as a forward airbase?
From all reporting I have seen (and I looked at a bunch before making the thread) this seems to be a full legitimate sale and has gone further in the process than any others pervious.
We know Russia hasn't been using them much in the war and thus (likely) not seeing much attrition with them. We also know they have been "mass" producing them this entire time. Given their need for money it seems entirely plausible they might actually hand over a few to someone like Algeria.

>>63753757
Interesting point. If only I would have had the forethought to bring up Morocco in the OP...
Oh wait, I did!

>>63747658 (OP)
Big issue is that most of the big-ticket parts the Su-57 required were made in western Europe. Unless Russia steals them out of the factories themselves, it isn't building shit.

>>63754083
>They've been gone for months, where have you been?
That is wrong and you are dumber than a sack of bricks. You're snorting in and living on the fakest news that ever faked.
The new Syrian government had to cut a deal with the Russians and let them stay, which is causing issues now because the Alawites are hanging out there, because it's relatively safe compared to the rest of Syria.
You actual illiterate retard.

>>63747658 (OP)
>Disclaimer I shouldn't need to make and I fucking hate you that I have to
It’s just something you have to acknowledge posting on /k/ these days. I wish there could be more neutral discussion on planes but instead threads devolve into shit flinging

>>63751308
Egypt's military will fold in any real war. The regime basically exists to suppress the Egyptian population, isolate Gaza, and protect Israel. That's why the 2011 democratic revolution was undone and the junta came back following the 2013 coup. At least Iraqi and Syrian soldiers had reason to fight, but Egyptian soldiers don't even have that.

>>63752023
You're deluded and out of the loop on so many levels. Russian bases are still in Syria's coast, and Israel won't be abandoning Russia because of the economic and demographic ties, and because Israel doesn't want Russia getting closer to Iran than they already have the past few years.

Israel doesn't make Patriots, nor are they offensive weapons. They're purely defensive, and the US asked for them back to send to Ukraine.

>>63758870
I don't give a shit about this whole Israel/Jews things. I just want evidence that Russians are still in Syria. I know the buildings are still there, but what about the people themselves? Do you have any pictures or satimages or articles to back this claim? Because everything I have seen and read has shown that they left.

>>63758897
This is a level of retardation seen only in flat earther cults.

>>63759016
What is retarded about me seeking information? I have told you the information I have and want to know what information you have. Surely there is a fundamental logic in that that you can acknowledge.

>>63753423
>>63754279
The fact that people can't be genuine and actually converse if the cancer killing this place. It was never civil but it was at least authentic.

>>63747658 (OP)
>Haven't really seen anyone bringing this up

i mean we already had videos of them landing in algeria for months now

>>63760380
Can you point to a thread in which that is posted or linked?

>>63747658 (OP)
F-15EX will mog the heck out of it

>>63747658 (OP)
For the new MRCA procurement plan, Malaysia may get SU-57 fighter jets from Russia and KF-21 from South Korea or even KAAN from Turkey because they have already offered it to Malaysia. Russia has already offered the SU57 package along with the S400 to Malaysia. The US gives too many conditions and no freedom to repair or upgrade the aircraft made in the United States. Most recently, Malaysia has held discussions with the Russian authorities to obtain the Mig-35 as well as the 5th generation Sukhoi Su-57 aircraft because Russia guarantees technology exchange and aircraft upgrades in the future.

An internal source to the famous Malaysian defense website, Malaysia Defense stated that there are discussions at the Malaysian Ministry of Defense level to accelerate the RMAF MRCA Multi-Role Combat Aircraft Program from the original in 2035 to 2040 to in the 13th Malaysia Plan RMK-13 from 2026-2030. This is so that Malaysia has a replacement for fighter jets after the Sukhoi SU-30 MKM and F-18 Hornet will be retired starting from 2035 to 2040. If the purchase process starts in RMK-13 then Malaysia will get the fighter jets no later than 2031-2035 or the 14th Malaysia Plan RMK-14

The RMAF MRCA program has actually been delayed for a long time with Malaysia wanting to buy new twin-engine fighter aircraft, namely the Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon and Super Hornet.

After being delayed. The RMAF changed this program to purchase Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft to ensure Malaysia's air combat formation continues to move forward. 18 aircraft will be purchased in the MRCA Program with candidates focused on the US-made F-35, Russian-made Sukhoi SU-57, South Korean-made KF-21 Boramae, Chinese-made Shenyang J-35 and Turkish-made KAAN

>>63762790
The biggest problem facing RMAF right now is the insufficient number of fighter aircraft in service. With only 8 F/A 18D, 18 Su 30MKM and 16 BAE Hawk, despite Malaysia having a large airspace. Malaysian main weakness is to fifth generation aircraft as Su-30MKM is superior to F-18F/F-15EX >>63762514

Eventhough the US bribing Malaysia not to join BRICS with sale of F-35, it wont be easy for them if the US Congress keep trying to meddle in and trying to approve it only with terms. Although both countries are friends, Malaysia is not that close with US, unlike Singapore , which the US gave much favour too. Also, Putrajaya (Malaysia) did not recognized Israel and dont have any Diplomatic relationship with Tel Aviv. Unlike Singapore which is the strongest supporters of Israel's war against the Palestinian people. So, you can do the math why Malaysian prefer to get 2nd hand F-18 from Kuwait as a temporary "stop-gap measure" only, as a temporary filling in the procurement of fifth or sixth generation fighter jets that will begin in the 14th Malaysia Plan (RM14 & RM15) 2030-2040. of course, it's dangerous if the weaponry leans more towards the west, especially America, the strangest policy is, the fighter jets have been purchased but their use requires permission from them. For F-18 Malaysia, the Malaysian technician was not given the source code for the settings when there was a mission, they had to report to America first. And again, Turkiye, just because they bought defense equipment from Russia was kicked out of the F-35 program, remember that before Indonesia was embargoed, the Air Force was paralyzed.

>>63747658 (OP)
>Disclaimer I shouldn't need to make and I fucking hate you that I have to: I'm not Chinese, I'm not Russian, I'm not Indian, I'm not Pakistan
so blame the bad faith chinks, vatnigs, poos, and pakis who only spam the catalog with threads to thump their chest and make it all but impossible to talk about, you retard

>>63762804
You're the one shitting up the place with your counter-signalling muttard screeching. So please, ferme ta gueule et va niquer cordialement ta mère la grosse pute

>>63762814
>muttard
says the french algerian lmao

>>63760606
https://x.com/AlgerianRelief/status/1757824359975043531/video/1

>>63763870
Shitter is not a thread, try again.

>>63762514
Morocco is supposed to get a few dozen f-35s (I assume A) soon. Even better than the Sexo

>>63762804
If they would identify as such, I would. In the meantime, all I have are people like you that own up to just blind screeching at anything that isn't what they already have in their head.

>>63763955
>a video of the delivery day is not a source try again

>>63764969
Do you have difficulty reading? I didn't say it wasn't "a source," I didn't ask for "a source." I asked for a thread in which it was discussed or linked. That was the contention with the post I replied to. Either you can provide that or you cannot.

>>63765106
it never was here obviously cause its pro russia

>>63765154
Then what was your issue here? >>63760380

>>63765236
i said we had videos
i provided link of videos
not sure whats your prob

>>63765701
You directly quoted me say
>Haven't really seen anyone bringing this up
You took issue with that claim which you now pretend you know nothing about. Why are you like this?
Don't even bother replying, its clear that you had nothing from the beginning and were just trying to start shit. I won't be replying further. Yes, that means you get to "win," hopefully it brings some fleeting joy into your sad life.

>>63765840
i stated the obvious
i provided evidence
you refuted saying
>hurr durr its not a thread
who gives a fuck
its evidence in the end

So, since Algeria is Russia's puppet, will they order them to chimp out like the order Hamas 2 years ago, to go against Morocco or make them try to grab a bit of Libya, since land is free grab these days. Gotta use your tools at hands to destabilize the world and by proxy, the west.

>>63753423
Algeria wont accept a foreign base

>>63765905
Its just a weapon sell
We have nothing to do with them
We aint the puppet of anyone

>>63765905
Algeria is pretty independent of Russian influence. That said, yeah, they might go after Morocco and its why those two are having an arms race that unfortunately no one is paying attention to.

>>63765978
There will never be a war between these two
Most of the retarded populations have no idea what is a modern war
Its just BS by nationalists in internet

>>63765978
Shame moroccans have such hostility towards their neighbours when they are literally genetically, religiously, linguistically, culturally the same
Guess they would rather side with israel/jews

>>63766054
If we take what you say as true, why do you think the respective governments are investing so much into defense spending then?
>>63766066
>teh j00s!!1!
What's it like to be so retarded? Is it possible there is more to geopolitics than what you reduce it to?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/25/kykr-a25.html

>>63765978
>Algeria is pretty independent of Russian influence.
"*pssst* hey, if you do that for us, it will directly and indirectly weaken frogland and israel because [reasons]"
"WHY, WHAT, YES I WILL DO WHAT YOU SAY. TENFOLD, EVEN. SOUNDS GREAT. I'LL ALSO SLURP YOUR GOOD RUSSIAN SPERM"
That's all they need to do to order Algeria around. They'll do it for free, even.

>>63766140
>What's it like to be so retarded? Is it possible there is more to geopolitics than what you reduce it to?

>>63766140
Why do you project retarded faggot ?
Algeria doesnt care about russia
They will never accept foreign influence wheter russian or western

>>63766129
Because everybody does
You dont need reasons to arm yourself
Also its literally true for the jew thing
Morocco hosted some israeli soldiers and allowed some israeli warships to go their ports
Its all due to their huge jewish population that didnt all go after the independance
I know there is the sand war thing/polisario but jews play a lot of part

The reason Algeria is buying so much from Russia in the first place is because the Russians don't ask questions and just hand over what you paid for.
Point being, no, they are nobody's puppet.

>63766258
>j0000000000000000000000000s

Crawl back in your hole

>>63766269
Exactly

>>63766348
Retarded faggot
I didnt say it was all jews
I said it was in part of jews
There is a reason morocco normalized his reliations with israel
I know there is real moroccans who are against their gov making this shit

>>63766140
We are literally capturing wagners in the desert and feeding them fermented milk with our proxies. We have diplomats going to washington. How do you think we can buy 5th gens without U.S sanctions ? unlike egypt. They want to buy those new chinese tanks instead of t-90s because they are so slow on the order. We returned those rotting mig 29s and made them pay back the money. You think a client state would dare ask for a refund?

>>63747658 (OP)
>Algeria buys a non-stealth Gen 4 plane disguised as Gen 5
And Algeria being an African shithole won't be able to maintain the RAM coatings and the whole thing will rust.
But then again Russia is also an African nation and can't do that either.
Only God can save this plane now, but there is no God and there were no RAM coatings to begin with so we ballin

>>63766797
Exactly

>>63767217
We can maintain our fleet of 70 Su-30 just fine thank you we are not Egypt.

>>63768161
It doesn't matter what you say, you have been lumped in with Russia and that means you can do literally nothing right. This blind mimcry in an attempt to fit in and be accepted is not only subhumanly pathetic, its these sorts that are destroying the board; no genuine discussion can be had for it scares them to not know where to stand.

>>63768283
Fuck off retard

>>63768283
>its these sorts that are destroying the board; no genuine discussion can be had for it scares them to not know where to stand.
>>>It doesn't matter what you say,
holy tone-deaf hypocrisy

>>63768283
Come back when you stop getting styled on by sand dwellers in Yemen and maybe you'll find someone who will listen to what you have to say instead of laugh you off.

>>63768291
I see I touched a nerve. kwab

>>63768305
Feel free to convince me otherwise, but don't hate me for identifying and calling out behavior.

>>63768328
Take your meds. I don't even know what you are on about.

>>63768520
How do you figure?

>>63768520
Nothing much would change, they're too similar

>>63768520
>Nigeria with sand

>>63768520
Fuck off
>>63768642
There is nothing similar

>>63768283
We arent with russia and we arent with america
Fuck both of you faggots

>>63768763
Work on your reading comp

>>63747658 (OP)
>>63767217
Aren't there only 12 flyable Su-57s?

>>63770621
~20
Unless you count the prototypes, then it's about 30, but the prototypes are T-50, not Su57. Sortof. The naming gets weird with prototypes because they're all different.

>>63770621
>>63770631
tbf those numbers are almost certainly out of date/inaccurate, but it probably isn't too far off one way or the other.

>>63771259
I'm pretty confident that we are still at 20 serial units in service because they are right now putting in the new engines, so the batch is taking longer than normal. And they didn't want to go all ahead with production until the new engines are ready.
Once that's done, the numbers will shoot up quickly but that's for late this or early next year.

>>63771273
>numbers will shoot up quickly but that's for late this or early next year.
lol

>>63771273
Where are you getting this information from? How current is it?

>>63771273
>excuses as to why the SU-57 still has yet to enter full production
Anon, Russia doesn't have the economic and industrial prowess to produce more than 1-2 of these planes every year. It's the same thing with the T-14

>>63747658 (OP)
>Assuming it actually goes forward
lol the SU-cks is science fiction, literally a prop used for propaganda

>>63747658 (OP)
>promised 8
Seems like a bold faced lie. Vranyo as they say. I expect nothing to be delivered

>>63748375
Giggled more than I should have at this

>>63775086
In the year 2023 they delivered to their own air force at least 8 Su57 jets and 10 Su35 jets, along with Su34 bomber, some Su30 for the navy and a few trainers.
That's what I had on hand because I did the numbers last year, I can't be fucked going over it for 2024 again. That's the Russian air force and navy, then there are also export deliveries that I can't be fucked timing, I think Myanmar got their planes sometimes in the last year or two as well.
And some were delivered to Iran, but I think those were trainers and reworked export Su35s originally built for Egypt.

>>63765905
>>63766140
Algeria isn't Russia's puppet, and they hardly even do anything, let alone try to weaken Israel or whoever.

>>63747658 (OP)
>due to contractual obligations, russia loses half it's su57 fleet to algeria

I just want more pictures of the Su-57.

>>63766129
>Is it possible there is more to geopolitics than what you reduce it to?
no, rabbi

>>63748247
Is "interim engines" the new code for "obsolete engines because Russia can't make better ones"?

>>63789274
Nice comeback. I can see why it took you 4 days to come up with it.

>>63750695
Fair play

>>63794862
>French 5th gen would also be flown by Algerian pilots
Owari da

>>63762790
>>63762794
Reminder that Malaysia is a fake country and has never won a war in their history

>>63809630
Jelly SG detected

>>63759110
>>63758897
>I don't give a shit about this whole Israel/Jews things. I just want evidence that Russians are still in Syria. I know the buildings are still there, but what about the people themselves?

https://www.reuters.com/world/israel-lobbies-us-keep-russian-bases-weak-syria-sources-say-2025-02-28/
https://kyivindependent.com/israel-wants-us-to-keep-syria-weak-by-allowing-russian-bases-sources-tell-reuters/

>>63747658 (OP)
>Normally I wouldn't expect anything to actually come of this, but apparently they promised 8 planes by end of year.

The ONLY way this is happening would be to ship them eight of the production models that are already in VVS service.
Which is not a terrible idea to be honest. They sure as hell need the money.

>>63820737
>February
Have you tried looking at any news in the 4 months since then?

>>63748247
The Norks are more likely to get their own Gen 5 fighter rolling than Russia is at this point.