Prototype/testbed/limited issue gear

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>>63811911
>>63811889 (OP)
We could do this stuff so light nowadays, just a gopro on the 3 o clock rail + half a google glass or something.

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>>63811990
Todd Howard!?!

I actually really liked this helmet and thought it was the coolest thing Ive ever seen when i saw it in GRAW 2

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>>63812169
>all that gear
>all that weight
his smile and optimism: gone

>>63812162
>BMX helmet
Halo and its consequences were a disaster to real world military

>>63811897
Is it wrong that I have a boner?

>>63811943
Any context for this?

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>>63812118
>Buy my gun.

>>63812004
The funniest thing about these things is that a company that made bowling balls were actually involved in the manufacturing of the spherical body of these things.

Early versions of the MCCUU used a Tigerstripe-based pattern instead of MARPAT

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>>63811889 (OP)
Fuck your knees/spine! All my homies hate your knees/spine!

>>63812718
Ugly ass tigerstripe though, the ABU is actually based on the South Vietnamese originals unlike that one

>>63812012
Monolith exoskeleton back servos there

>>63812169
It's so retarded but I love it anyway.

>>63812012
definitely influenced by generic 90s scifi but that what makes it cozy

Experimental variations of the US Model 1903 rifle:
-At top is the more-or-less final version of the rifle as of 1918.
-Below is the M1903 as adopted in 1903, in caliber .30-'03, with integral spike bayonet, and tangent-leaf rear sight.
-Below that is one of the variations tested in 1905 when President Roosevelt ordered the Ordnance Department to replace the spike bayonet with a more traditional knife-type. This one used a similar bayonet mount & front sight guard to the British Short Magazine Lee-Enfield.
-Next is a rifle with very finely-adjustable sights for target shooting.
-Below that is an experimental receiver-mounted rear sight and winged front sight guards. Interestingly I have seen a rifle identical to this one in WW1 photographs of ammunition being quality tested at one of the many private contractors supplying .30-'06 cartridges to the US government. No mention in the photographic plate caption is made of the special modifications to the rifle, so it may have just been sent there because it was no longer useful to the Ordnance Department.
-The final two rifles are different variations of muzzle brake trialed on the M1903. While they were effective at reducing felt recoil the muzzle blast was uncomfortable for other shooters on the firing line and so the feature was never adopted.

>>63814817

what could have been

>>63812012
>Lopez
Well they accurately predicted one thing about the future.

>>63812169
>that Eotech in high orbit over the bore

Here is a Maxim Model 1910 silencer on the US M1903 rifle. In the 1910s the US Army did actually purchase several hundred Maxim Silencers for use on the M1903 rifle, first the Model 1910 shown here and then the Model 1915 "Government" pattern, and they may have seen combat use in WW1. Ordnance documents place a couple hundred of the rifles & silencers at AEF depots in France, the last stop before actually going to the front line. Whether or not they actually saw combat is unknown.

One of the most common complaints against the use of the Maxim silencer is that it could not easily mount a bayonet. The Model 1910 shown here had a special variant of the US M1905 bayonet which could fit underneath the silencer, but since it mounted to the standard rifle bayonet lug only about 4" of the blade actually projected beyond the muzzle of the silencer.

>>63814970
Shorten it and I'll buy your commie Mini-14. The bayonet makes it extra useful for home defense.

>>63814765
>Ergonomics?
>Sounds kinky, ignore it completely in your design.

>>63815205
>One of the most common complaints against the use of the Maxim silencer is that it could not easily mount a bayonet.

Isn't the whole point to be handing these out to scouts and marksmen who shouldn't be needing bayonets in the first place?

>>63815540
>who shouldn't be needing bayonets

>>63815540
Storming trenches involved a lot of close action. How useful a 16" bayonet on the end of a rifle was for that close quarters fighting is debatable, but it was ready when needed and still allowed you full use of your rifle.
>but scouts and marksmen aren't supposed to be in close combat
And the Germans weren't supposed to torpedo Lusitania, but there they were. Scouting and sniping requires you to be on, or forward of, the front line. Who knows what you'll run into out there or what counter action the Germans will take.

Going back a bit further in the story of the M1903 rifle we enter the period before the decision to adopt a universal short rifle pattern for infantry and cavalry. This is the 30"-barreled infantry version with the integral spike or "rod" bayonet in the forearm under the barrel. The cavalry version had a 22" barrel and a half-length forearm with no provision for a bayonet at all.

>>63815540
>Isn't the whole point to be handing these out to scouts and marksmen who shouldn't be needing bayonets in the first place?
Yeah. The idea was that only a couple men in each company would be issued a silenced rifle and they would act as specialists. But some people just can't break out of the mental image of how they view the infantry should operate. Pershing himself ordered that the silencers be sent back to the USA.

>>63815709
I've read a few WW1 memoirs by British, Canadian, and American scouts and they rarely used bayonets during trench raids. Rifles/automatic rifles were carried by the security elements meant to provide covering fire when the raiders withdrew but otherwise were too unwieldy in the confines of a trench. It's usually handguns and/or clubs/knives and ALWAYS grenades grenades grenades. There were scouts that would only carry grenades on their patrols because if they did their job right they went undetected and the less they carried meant the easier it was to move across the battlefield, and if they were detected and weren't immediately killed then tossing a few grenades might discourage the enemy long enough to escape. Grenade spam is not a meme and most WW1 media does a terrible job representing their pervasive use on the battlefield.

This is both dopey as hell and cool as shit

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>>63814817
Take away the gun barrel on the bottom
Replace it with a bayonet

>>63816474
235 was so much sexier.

>>63815709
Lusitania was carrying illicit war material and deserved to be sunk.

>>63816318
>Take away the gun

SHALL NOT

>>63814829
The SMLE nose cap rifle gave me a woody

>>63817666
Get thee behind me!

>>63811889 (OP)
XM-248, contender in a program to develop a light machine gun in a 5.56 caliber to allow squads to share ammo. It was originally developed by Rodman labs, but the program was shifted to Ford Aerospace instead. The original design had a 6mm cartdridge, so Ford was tasked with tweaking the desing to fire 5.56. The design was deemed inferior to the FN Minimi (a reasonable, safer choice).

>>63812718
We need a tropical uniform with removable sleeves. Talk about a convienient addition, especially for an army which could be anywhere from the Baltics to the damn Amazon.
Having a highly configurable uniform is just based. I believe that uniforms should have built-in straps which can be tightened and loosened in the same manner as a belt. It could provide much more comfortable fitting uniforms, and everyone knows a happy troop is a good troop.

Field caps similar to (https://reenact.store/kepki-flora-rossijskaja-armija) should also be issued. They are good for keeping the sun off the neck and bugs away in the more tropical regions, but can be worn in temperate areas comfortably aswell.

>>63815496
>when the high-res textures dont load in when you get closer

>>63811990
It
Just
Works

>>63814765
Always liked how these were photographed like they were to be unit icons for a C&C game.

>>63811898
Golem get ye gone.

>>63814899
Too cool for this gay Earth.

>>63814817
I believe the logic of this was that the guy about to shoot a tank would have a rifle ready at the same time to defend himself against a soldier if he suddenly had to.

>>63812718
>minute camo pattern changes with random-ass acronyms
who the fuck cares

>>63816534
i agree

>>63814899
>military H&K rifle
>bullpupped
imagine the trigger

>>63811897
Colt Model 703, technically the first piston AR design.

>>63820874
Fucking NEATO

>>63820908
They call me Rumba Pete.

M1941 Johnson Light Machine Gun, approximately 600 total were used by American forces during WWII, 515 purchased off a Dutch contract for issue to Marine Raider and Parachute units, and another 125 for the American-Canadian Special Service Force.

>>63821069
>we failed to get the contract for the first trial we sent this gun to
>so let's just completely give up on this pistol in entirety and never bother trying further
FUCKING OLT

>>63821120
Is that not more or less what ended up being the Double Eagle?

Here (You) go gunner,
The /k/lassic

>>63821161
No, the Double Eagle is a 1911 slide and barrel with a double-action frame, in fact the way they did the double-action is straight imitated from a DA/SA conversion of the 1911 which Seecamp used to do.
The SSP was an all new pistol which they just gave up on after trying once.

>>63811943
Looks like some kind of very early thermal poncho.

>>63822956
>the fucking axe

>>63822988
>deploy the ravioli units

The Mauser Model 1892 in 7x57mm for the Spanish government trials of 1891-'93. This rifle had the large non-rotating claw extractor and a unified single-piece magazine box/triggerguard, but the magazine itself was still a single-stack design.

>>63823036
A very similar rifle in multiple calibers was tested by the United States in 1892, narrowly losing out to the Krag-Jorgensen design. Pic related, we could have had a rimless 7.62x53mm design 60 years before 7.62NATO became a thing.

>>63823024
The /gq/ dudes even made an infographic for these.

A South Korean prototype hybridizing the 1903 Springfield with the En Bloc feed of the Garand.

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>>63811889 (OP)
How about dem flechettes?

>>63822990
That poor buffer tube housing...

>>63822956
I'm sure the pry bar one (fig. 5) would be very popular with soldiers. Nothing like a sharp point digging into your shoulder with every shot.

Most of the other configs are either just 'fine' or sacrifice too much ergonomics for the weapon, e.g. the axe attachment.

>>63821200
>"Watch out, these goons have some kind of super armor!"

>>63812708
Not just the spherical body. The entire weapon was a product of a bowling ball company.

>>63823485
They also submitted a design to the Squad Automatic Weapon program back when it was supposed to be in 6mm.

The Czech HROM PDW.
Borrowing the claw cartridge mover from the PKM, the idea was to make the shortest possible PDW, while still maintaining basically usable barrel length.
Cartridges were pulled backwards out of the magazine and lifted upwards to the chamber behind where they started, so the barrel could be inset deeply into the receiver housing.

>>63823528
This looks like it's related to that 7.62x39mm super-short carbine the Czechs were tinkering with for a while.

>>63811889 (OP)
M1904 Maxim, initially chambered for .30-03 before the switch to .30-06. About 300 built. Saw some limited use during the Mexican intervention.

>>63823544
And the other American Maxim, the Colt-Vickers M1915

>>63823547
By that point it was no longer a Maxim. Vickers had made so many changes it was no longer compatible with its ancestor.
The Russians continued using the Vickers-Maxims though.

>>63811889 (OP)
Marmon–Herrington CTLS' used in the Aleutian campaign.

>>63823510
>rostocil
same guy also came up with this belt fed shotgun. I don't think this ever got built though

>>63822988
Quite possibly. Bongs in the late 90s were playing around with thermal ghillies with the TICS (Thermal Individual Camouflage Suit), but they were never widely issued because reducing thermal signature was basically an afterthought in the west until the last decade where thirdies started getting access to them. I could believe Spain was experimenting with them as well.

>>63813937
KEK

>>63822956
this reminds me of people using the M7 bayonet as a pry bar

whatever happened to this? i saw some western merc in ukraine using those backpack gimbal things they use to steady your camera for film with his m249

>>63823953
Somebody realized that going prone is a thing

Mannlicher's first automatic rifle.
The first of its kind, globally. Even before smokeless powder was invented.
Recoil operated. It used a floating locking 'fork' that moved forwards and back with the action to lock and unlock.

>>63824001
Aliens had an idea for that. Granted, they wore an eye-piece for targeting there.

>>63814970
If you like that you might like this:
https://www.hushholsters.com/blog/product/sks_folder/

>>63825063
Going supine helps, but it doesn't replace prone and crawling. It's a colossal trade off that will probably lead to a lot of smart-gunner corpses if the Colonial Marines ever had to go after actual peer-adversaries rather than bug hunts and liberating farmers daughters from their virginity.

>>63826347
>Of all the words of tongue and pen the worst are these
>"It might have been"

>>63824708
hehehe
>Mann-licker

>>63826429
haha like a FAG

>>63823953
>mercs
The only mercs in Ukraine are Wagner and other Russian organizations.

>>63822956
okay but imagine how many accidents this would cause. think about this for a second. how badly can a soldier with a shovel fuck up?

now literally attach a fully automatic weapon to it. you think pvt randall is gonna unload and check the safety before using his axe?

>>63820246
i would of assumed the 5.56 was tracer and you used it to sight the round. there was some other gun that did that, you fired tiny infantry rounds loaded to have the same ballistics as the big boi round, with the idea that yeah, sure, they might notice getting pinged with tiny boolit, but they wont be expecting big boolit to hit the exact same spot 3 seconds later.

>>63826765
>i would of assumed the 5.56 was tracer and you used it to sight the round.
Nope, the NIVA is select-fire and mean to function as an assault rifle, which is why it's pretty retarded.

>there was some other gun that did that
Lots of artillery pieces use spotting rifles for sighting like that. Pictured has one.


https://guns.fandom.com/wiki/NIVA_XM1970

The tl;dr is that it was 100% intended to combine the 5.56mm assault rifle and the recoilless 45mm rifle, and it did do that, functionally, but the problem is that this is not something which you want.
Soldiers would be mostly using 5.56mm, so they have this needlessly heavy 45mm recoilless launcher on their rifle which they aren't using much, and they are carrying 45mm shells for that thing instead of more 5.56mm ammo.

Not stated in that source, but which I believe probably is worth thinking about, is that 45mm is pretty small for a recoilless rifle, range and payload is definitely not going to be on the level of the 84mm Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle, so one would really wonder what the point would then be.
A much more practical solution to giving a soldier some additional explosive firepower would simply be a 40x46mm High/Low grenade launcher attachment, which may not have the same kind of long range or flat trajectory, but which is going to be MUCH less heavy and bulky, both for the weapon and the ammunition. Optionally, the soldier could carry something like a lightweight and single use 66mm M72 LAW, or a somewhat heavier but still pretty light and handy AT4 (aka M136) 84mm.

>>63825191
Are these actually being sold and delivered? I heard the guy who makes these is kind of a grifter. I desperately want it to be legit.

>>63823953
HE HUNG

>>63820668
I have an old sears craftsman router that has the same "ergonomic" grip as that rifle

>>63828870
no idea, I just have the page bookmarked. It shows as available. Apparently there's nylon and wood versions available, but the pics show different versions of the wood. If I had second SKS that I felt like bubba'ing I might try it, but desu if they just made an AKM stock like that I'd be more interested.