Fallout/Metro/STALKER thread:

>>63813246 (OP)
All mid
Get a new franchise already

>>63813246 (OP)
Last thread was fun, it’s been awhile

>>63813300
Fag. It’s the essence of /k

>>63813246 (OP)
Been doing a re play of fallout 3 lately. Haven’t touched it in years. I gotta say, there is a TON of content buried in this game. So many places I hadn’t explored before. Other than the story ending and some limited combat features, it gives New Vegas a run for its money.

Can I create a setting that's basically STALKER but in a forested part of America in the early 80s or would that be too faggy and/or similar to Fallout? Early 80s specifically because of the A2 style handguard and more gear variety, otherwise 50s-60s would be dope.

>>63813367
Not really, the setting is just spookier and that’s it, there’s way less variety of choice and all of them are black or white, no shades of grey like New Vegas.

>>63813367
3 has always been more adventure driven while NV is narrative driven. With NV relating more to the classic fallouts, I thought it was cool seeing how Bethesda designs their open world RPG vs how Interplay would.

>>63813404
Vegas has a bit more color sure, but the setting of 3 is supposed to be dark and gloomy. So it’s hard to compare colors. But yeah NV has more intricate decision making and consequences. Another reason why 3 needs a good remaster. I’d take a remaster of 3 before NV any day

>>63813407
New Vegas may have better story/player interaction. But I’ve always felt 3 captures the goofy spirit of fallout

>>63813424
It's cool that they offer two different experiences from two different developers. Both are great, they just appeals to different people. The real question is why did 4 fail so hard to capture the magic of 3? It sucks has to explore, it's narrative is forgettable, and base building is so bare bones it makes you wonder by they forced it so hard in the first place.

>>63813453
Yeah it basically goes
>3 for atmosphere and interesting story to experience
>New Vegas for interactive experience and theme
>4 for game mechanics, somewhat fun settlement building, and some flashy graphics
All have their strengths and weaknesses. But the most important thing is each game is responsible for the next. None would exist without the other.

Is there any more of these for any of these games?

>>63813352
>being a broke homeless slav is the essence of /k/
sounds gay

>>63813611
I'd argue that NV has some phenomenal atmosphere as well desu. It's the primary reason why I still return to it after so many hundreds of hours.

>>63813367
1&2 are the only fallout games
you're playing skyout fallgay

>>63813735
Everything sounds gay to a faggot tourist.
>>>/lgbt/

>>63813736
I want to say it has good atmosphere, but it’s just too desert. The interactive story and gun mods/ammo are the strength. But the map really isn’t that great to eclipse, it’s just too flat. 3 had a good variety of rolling hills and sprawling cities. If you polished up 3’s story and added the same gun mods, 3 would stand high above NV. But don’t get me wrong, they both have great replay value.

>>63813404
like clockwork. ANY time someone says something nice about fallout 3 some faggot like you has to b-b-b-but new vegas!!! Absolute annoying cunts

>>63813739
why are you linking your home board instead of begging for bread?

>>63813404
>>63813423
Wow I’m retarded. I thought you literally meant to color scheme of the game. Yeah 3 is much more linear.

>>63813735

>>63813735

Where are my Duty brothers?

>>63813749
I was gonna mention it, but I had faith in you, anon.

>>63813773
Appreciate your faith. Yes the famous difference between NV and 3 is the range of cause and effect via story decisions. But it should be seen in a good way, it means games took the good stuff, cut out the bad stuff, and added more good stuff. Doesn’t happen very often anymore.

>>63813392

Yes Roadside Picnic has influenced different media and its okay to write a story of your own version of The Zone.

>>63813829
>Roadside Picnic
Holy shit I forgot all about that even though I read it. Might have been over a decade ago though

>>63813367
Been playing this with mods on and off for years and I'm still finding new stuff. Always loved the subway tunnels element to it, the DC Interiors project mod adds even more locations and content. Could never get into NV though.

>>63813780
>>63813869
What FO3 and 4 have over NV is "just fucking around" gameplay. When you're wandering around seeing what you come across without any goal or plan in mind. NV has too much of the map that is completely empty of anything that is even visually interesting

>>63813772
reporting in!

>>63813745
It's impossible for them to like both or to acknowledge the strengths and weakness of either. Anytime 3 is brought in a positive light, some mouth breathing retard needs to bring up NV and defend it.

>>63813246 (OP)
What blew up now? Can we please stop spamming off topic threads? It's honestly quite a pathetic attempt to spam these threads in hopes we forget about how shit you ziggers are

63814390
weak b8

>is going to take GSC nearly a full year to add 2 goddamn guns
>still missing like a solid quarter-third of the guns from the original trilogy
>gun progression means that 80% of shit in the game is useless anyway
>still no night vision
>A-life still barely exists
Pains me how STALKER 2 is so close to being one of the best open world releases of the past 5 years but it's just horrendously half baked gameplay wise
>>63813367
honestly it's a shame that 3's writing and worldbuilding is puerile dogshit and that Bethesda didn't do enough to make exploration 'worthwhile' because it's the best art direction for the series and the most fun map to explore in terms of layout

mercenary best faction
gucci gear
pick of missions
money out the ass
can shoot indiscriminately because everyone shoots first

everyone else gay guidided by their moral or political viewpoints

https://youtu.be/GvJ91D-N29g?feature=shared

>>63815086
Mercs are guided by money.
>gucci gear
Drawback. Embrace true SOVLFUL equipment and only being reliant on yourself and your closest comrades + following your own goals in the Zone.

>>63815161
>trots through the zone with his soulful rustbucket AK and cuts off blind dog tails to make a living and some post-expire soviet medkits
>receives a 7.62 match open tip from a suppressed HK417 dude sitting comfortably several hundred yards/meters away because some merc dudebro went on with a dare that "you will never make this shot, fgt"

>>63815277
>spends 30k on gucci operator gear in whatever western country he came from
>probably got all his recommendations from guntoobers
>finally departs to the zone with his 2.7k radio headset, 10k Legion Patriot Urban Survival American Militia kevlar, and an entire section of his backpack full of toilet paper rolls (he is afraid to shit without full premium quality baby soft toilet paper)
>maybe kills a few blind dogs, even a bandit or two
>through sheer chance a loner spots him from behind (apparently the internet-shilled gucci headset doesn't increase your spatial awareness by 500%, making you into a killing machine as the influencers claimed)
>gets domed by a 9x18 through no fault of his own
>lonerbro just loots the liquor and doesn't even bother looking at the 50 kilos of useless gucci trash the merc was carrying on himself

>>63813743
>If you polished up 3’s story and added the same gun mods, 3 would stand high above NV
Except it wouldn't. Fallout 3 has way too many problems. A couple of mods couldn't fix nor polish the turd that is that game.

>>63815332
>loner is REEEEEEEEEEd from shooting his sawed off grandpappy shotgun indoor at some rats
>merc has high end noise cancellation and enhancement headset on
>your fantasy

I think not, hope you stocked up on bolts because too poor to afford a Bear detector, kek.

>>63815277

>>63815357
>merc is ACK'd in a minute after his Bear gets shut off by an anomaly or destroyed in combat, never learned to do anything besides blindly placing faith in the most modern technology
>loner is reliant on his intuition, knowledge of the Zone, and reliable technology, combining both the old and reliable and the new and easier ways of stalking
>as his detector shut off, he navigates his way through the anomaly field by the way of bolts and rugged veteran awareness, leaving it with no problem whatsoever

You probably forgot to buy the 16th battery this week for your 19th piece of gucci technology. Also, don't drop it on the way to the base, it might get a very unlucky crack and stop working altogether. I hope you have some box filled with mail grade styrofoam blocks already.

If they ever do make a new fallout, the best part of 4 was the verticality to the city combat, and the exploration of the city. Not enough games have gun battles like that.
>>63813453
>Why did 4 fail
Emil Pagliarulo is not a good writer, the main story's conflict wasn't compelling, the voiced protag, the change in designs for the weapons and monsters, every hostile NPC faction is just a re-skin raider with nothing interesting about them, and too much base building and not enough pre-existing NPC towns making the region more empty. If there was more to the gunners or the children of atom they could've been good.
>>63813914
NV has a lot of the map that's out of the way, has nothing there worthwhile exploring anyway or has enemies which are too numerous or difficult to fight so you can't go there you aren't as rewarded for trying to explore the map. Part of NVs problem is it being based off of a tabletop game so you're meant to follow the DM's path that he's made for the player to walk through and see all his set pieces, his towns and sidequests, and it harms the replayability because I know the lottery player is there, I know the Vipers are waiting for me, Lanius is hanging around for a month till I finally bother to send him on his way.
>Desert
I don't mind that being empty and lifeless, what I do is Freeside, the Strip, and inside every casino being devoid of life.

>>63815436
>the best part of 4 was the verticality to the city combat, and the exploration of the city.
Especially if you use of the jetpack. It's too bad the AI is too dumb to use or need any of that maneuvering.

>>63813367
Did the same last year with TTW and some JSawyer mod, which solved my main gripes with F3 like water being useless, no ironsights and lack of gun variety. Really enjoyed it, F3 is a very lonely game, much more than the others, very atmospheric and the soundtrack is pretty creepy when you are underground and abandoned buildings. Then again, I am really biased since it was my first RPG and first fallout.

>>63813829
>>63813392
Roadside Picnic even takes place in some commonwealth country so it fits nicely.

I like all of the modern fallout games

Mercs look the best in old school kit

obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PY01yQdxi4

>>63815457
The jet pack and being able to change levels quickly or get up to the vantage point you're being shot at from is fine. PA in 4 is nice in making you feel bigger and more imposing but the marine armour is the coolest.
>>63815472
>lonely game
Parts of 3 capture the magic of the first, like when going round bombed out ruins on the map in the first or if you revisit Necropolis and its all now dead. Travelling around by yourself on the overworld map is sort of similar but 3 does that better.
>>63815503
They all have their charms and drawbacks, but you even like 76? Shame that 76 isn't an offline game or I would play it for the map alone.

>>63815408
>gets a cut from running through the bushes too fast, or a Springboard anomaly (because he has no detector), or bitten by a wild animal
>verges on bleeding out
>sold his last few boxes of 9x18 and (1950s stock corrosive and rusted) 7.62x39 for an antirad/medkit/bandages/vodka, Sidor didnt want your broken-ass AKMS-74Us or crusty Makarovs you found along the way
>hopes to find some dilapidated ammo stock in some random boxes in Cordon

Living the high life.

Meanwhile, us degens enjoying SIG rifles and HK pistols, or the other way around, because we do not give a fuck, we got money like that, big sad.

Enjoy the trek and the kek, the journey, not the destination.

>>63815520
>you even like 76?
seriously forgot it existed. What I meant, I like Fallout 3, New Vegas and 4. Tried 76 like once, got it for free even, but not for me, no modding is a deal breaker for me, I refuse to use fallout 4s left handed guns. I agree about the map though, would be fun to explore but I am not paying fucking thirteen bucks a month to play offline.

Did anybody see that Shadow of the Zone fanmovie? I thought it was fine, a little too tacticool and the vfx ranged from mediocre to shit but I enjoyed it.

>>63815472
>Did the same last year with TTW and some JSawyer mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/79547

>>63815472
Is TTW easy to install and work with? My ability to install mods and mess with game files is a solid 1/10.

>>63816910
Not him but it's easy if you follow the guide and go down the MO2 route
>>63815610
Fuck, everytime I see a pre-mid '96 SMK parka it makes me wish I was less of a retard and bought the one I saw on ebay a couple years back

>>63816910
Yes, and there are plenty of tutorials

>>63816969
Both MO2 and Vortex support TTW, MO2 just gives you the ability to play the games without TTW

>>63816969
Yeah I know that feel, been looking for a Oreh jacket in my size and they always get snatched up immediately. Can't complain too much, finally got my korean woodland grail gear.

>>63813735
You shouldn't have come here Stalker

>>63815491
>Roadside Picnic even takes place in some commonwealth country

It takes place in canada, it explicitly names some bumfuck town in the maritimes.

Go figure that what the soviets found to be exotic was a western nation while we find their backwards ass outdated squalor to be exotic.

>>63813755
>>63813761
buy a good computer

>>63818105
slavs aren't cool

>>63818118

Arent there different exclusion zones too?

Why was STALKER 2 so fucking bad, bros

>>63819078
Better question, why is the Remaster of the first 3 games so fucking bad

>>63818105
>>63818126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CgC42GlsjA

>hurr durr STALKER is bad
>hurr durr Fallout 3/New Vegas is bad
Better than Fag Cry 2, aka "zoomer redditors want to feel unique by pretending a shit game is good because muh physics"
Fuck Ubisoft btw.

>>63819890
It's really only /v/ that thinks Far Cry 2 is good because they're terminal contrarians.

>>63813735
You must be new here.

>>63819909
I thought it was a racism thing desu

>>63819890
>>63819909
>catching beautiful vistas or moments of peaceful bliss randomly
>shooting motherfuckers indiscriminately in any way your soul desires, explosive barrage, rambo bullethosing, stealthy sneaky breaky
You can replay every given mission a few different ways, along with your player doing much the same on the daily.
Maybe you want to sneak in at night to each objective and quietpew sentries, plant an IED and scurry.
Maybe you want the noon sun to light your way on a guns blazing glory of 900 rounds spent, maybe you want to pick off enemies from afar and set alight explosive barrels/tanks and zip the homos trying to escape the ensuring dry brush inferno.
A number of "quirks/janks" have been fixed by simple binary code mods. Rest is graphics updates and weapon slot mods.
There are several major mods which do much of the same thing, but a different flavours. Little room to customize because of the .mod archives being a pain to edit and require complete compiles with no microadjustment like STALKER, for example, with its simple text and immediate response .cfg files

It is literally a make-your-own-adventure sandbox.

>>63819909
Far cry 2 is honestly the only one I ever played. I enjoyed it well enough

>>63820355
Guns are so bad though, all of them mirrored and the animations are shit, even if the gun selection itself is pretty kino

>>63813246 (OP)
how would exodus rank against the first
two games?

>>63821504
Exodus is rather different. Still a rail like the first two, but in this case literally. It's got far and away more character development and plot than the first two, but admittedly each region seems a little heavy-handed in terms of its 'uniqueness'. OTOH you can argue that in the conditions presented that sort of local cultural development actually makes sense in a post-communications world. It's certainly my favorite, for me the chain of local vignettes tied together by the traveling home of the train is extremely comfy/top. It's a travesty that it will not get the followup it was set up for as, when compared to the other two, and post-apoc games as a whole, it creates a narrative of growth through struggle rather than simply struggle to survive. To see the fledgling community at the end grow up, and the 'final battle' as set up at the end carried out, would be great. Exodus has soul in spite of the AAA pressures levied against it, perhaps my favorite fps of all time - certainly tied with the later modded iterations of STALKER, albeit for different reasons.

>>63821504
I would rank it differently than the two as it’s both linear and open world gameplay. I would rate it as its own thing and a solid 8.8/10

>>63813246 (OP)
>Stalker on steam has all been replaced by the "enhanced" versions

>>63823063
you get the originals when you buy the enhanced version

>>63821504
worst of the 3
story is shit except for like the first 30 minutes and last hour near the end.
the open world ruined it. cause the ai was retarded if you just hung back and sniped. you never had any moments like the bridge. the ai was just really bad. no pathing or patrols. weapon selection was crap compared to the other games. the whole economy of ammo = money and should i use real bullets or not is gone.
it was so dumbed down.
it was the worst of the trilogy but still worth playing just so you know how it ended.

>>63813367
the exploration is great
I recently found a few areas I'd never been too despite having played it multiple times over the years
I would say that aside from point lookout all the dlc's drag it down
the rest feel like excuses to hand you overpowered shit like
>9xbeam and 9x crit chance laser rifle
>bugged and unbreakable power armor
>100% invisibility armor
>alien blaster 3 but its a shotgun this time
>tribeam laser rifle 3x crit chance

>>63823642
I really liked the Pitt, visiting a city that was even more fucked up by the apocalypse than DC was really cool, honestly wish we could see more of pittsburg. By F3 standards the moral choice was interesting too. And you get my favorite weapons and armor from the dlc, the Perforator and Iconoclast armor.

>>63823642
>>63825119
I have to say all the DLC for 3 is great. I don’t dig that far into the perks and power you get from them. Just the fun of the story and how cool some of the new gear looks.
>The Pitt
Easily my favorite. Great atmosphere, top notch loot(Perforator my beloved), and a great morale dilemma with no easy way out. It’s refreshing from the rest of 3 being very good guy oriented. It was nice to be in a position where you aren’t shoved into being an angel, you have to get your hands dirty and make a judgement call. And if you’re wondering, Ashur is the correct answer.

>>63825392
>Ashur is the correct answer.
He's not, neither he nor his Pitt Raider of wife have any idea on what they're doing to find a cure to some super radioactive powered disease

>>63825400
Wrong. They have the best chance. It’s not guaranteed to succeed, and the game makes it very clear either side is not guaranteed. But Ashur has the best resources. He also has the best chance at maintaining a functioning society while it’s being worked on. Once the slaves rebel, most of their fighters and resources are wiped out. Leaving them at the mercy of the Troggs.

>>63825392
>>63825119
I do like the pitt the 2nd most
the silenced scoped assault rifle variant was a nice addition to the paltry weapon selection

I don't really care for NV. For all the hyping of how great the story is, the whole game is designed to just scream at you that Independent is correct.
I can't take getting hammered with "everything old world is bad!" over and over and over without getting annoyed and would rather play hero in 3.

I was told that Radiophobia 3 would be ball busting hard but no

>>63825408
I bet you sided with the Brain

>>63823393
it says nothing in the store page about it.

>>63813246 (OP)
Anyone have a decent Undderrail build? or at least can tell me what not to bother with?

>>63825408
>the game makes it very clear either side is not guaranteed.
Not really. It's near certain that if you kill the baby, you will save many lives.

>>63829974
Where is all of this stalker art from? From all of those bootleg stalker novels?

>>63825400
>>63831805
>Kill the only scientist in the pitt, who also has miraculously given birth to the only healthy baby since the bombs fell
>kill Ashur, the only person who has any semblance of controll in the biggest shithole in post apocalyptic america
>kill off all of the raiders and flood half of your already small livable space with trogs
>give the miracle baby to a raider lieutenant with no medical experience or clean equipment
>the same raider lieutenant whose only reason to start the whole revolt in the first place is because he lost a power struggle and got kicked out by Ashur
>let a infant be tortured to death for no reason or cure by said raider
>let the malnurished slaves either be ripped apart by trogs flooding in from the rest of the city now that there are no one to stop them, or try to leave the pitt across a mined bridge
>the best option

Ashur is full of shit and will probably never stop using slaves but there is a tiny chance they may actually come up with a cure, and a tiny chance he might be speaking the truth. Better that than to murder a infant for no reason and doom the rest of the slaves, if they do not get put back to work again by Wernher

>>63831033
Honestly I don’t remember.

>>63833759
Well said. Again, both options lead to more suffering, but Ashur is the ONLY chance to bring the Pitt back from hell and make it into the next Hoover Dam.

>>63813246 (OP)

>>63813246 (OP)
Outside of the incredibly weird scaling of the bullets and the pretty shitty melee combat, what's everyone's thoughts on Atomfall? I've heard people say its a British Stalker but honestly it felt more similar to Chernobylite.

>>63818266
Yes. The aliens simultaneously visited at least six different, seemingly random, spots all over the world during their brief 2 day picnic.
No one knows why. All everyone knows is that the aliens seemingly broke the laws of physics there permanently, and left behind a shitload of dangerous and mysterious artifacts.
The trash left behind by the aliens is beyond our understanding despite scientists all over the world working to study them, but there's a market for these artifacts, and some are even used commercially, for example as batteries for electric cars.
Does that mean the artifacts being used as batteries are meant to be used as such? We have no idea. Using these "battery artifacts" as such might be equivalent to tribal savages using a laptop computer as a cutting board, while the actual purpose of the computer is beyond their understanding.

>>63813367
I prefered FNV overall, but I like the themes of FO3.

>>63813246 (OP)
Thots for season 2?

Will Mr House be alive?
Will Max get bleached by Lucy?
Will we see cool power armor shit???

>>63837461
>Will Max get bleached by Lucy?
Could you shut the fuck up schlom

>>63837471
That scene in season 1 where they kiss and a jewish man looks on and smiles was so on the nose.

>>63837398

Thats pretty much how i remembered it, so i dont see the harm in Anon writing his own little zone with its own stories its not like that isnt how we got Stalker to befin with.

>>63813772
Doing nothing at the cement factory. The writers ghosted Duty in Stalker 2. You'd think the Ward would use them as guides or something. Duty would be all in with the Ward ending.

>>63815277
>hehe im so tacticool and epic nothing will stop me
>Platoon size convoy gets raped by controllers instead
https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Shadow_of_Chernobyl_PDA_entries#The_chronicles_of_egghead_globalists

>>63837361
It was good on game pass. Don't know how I'd feel if I paid. Good waste of ~40 hours. Better story than Avowed at least.

>>63837361
Didn't feel like a stalker, more a Bioshock cross with Fallout because of all the twee Britainnia in it and sci-fi with a weak social commentary.

>>63813246 (OP)
Anyone ever play this?

>>63838800
She cute

>>63813246 (OP)
Bump

>>63813246 (OP)
what about Wasteland?

>>63842775
Decent, but did not have the running appeal of Fallout. The same can be said of 2 and 3.

>>63820732
Far Cry 3 is fun and good.

>>63815086
>gucci gear
This is primarily a fanbase invention, canon mercs are certainly described as professionals in terms of skill and conduct, but their gear is total shit. Mercs only spawn at experienced or higher in SoC, there are no rookies, so in terms on equipment their peers all have way better armor (including every loner), including night vision; and mercs are left using the 3rd worst armor in the game right up until expert status where they start getting Sevas and exos; and those are probably private purchases. NODs are specifically described as a unique addition to the upgraded merc suit, so the vast majority of the mercs in the zone are seeing with headlamps. In terms on guns, they benefit from standardization with the LR300 and are the only faction that consistently use optics, but the LR300 is inappropriate for the zone and they're still using the same dogshit black market susats as everyone else. Plus their idea of a sniper is a scoped AK, granted that is probably a stand-in for an SVD that they didn't want players getting as early as the wild territory, but nonetheless it doesn't speak of a faction that spares no expense; nor does it indicate a faction that pays particularly well. I think the modern fan interpretation of the mercenaries is as an elite well-equipped post-GWOT PMC, but how they were really intended is as a more traditional 80/90s executive outcomes or dogs of war mercenary company; where they certainly know what theyre doing but their gear isn't anything special. Listening to their dialog, they all seem more unhinged and bitter than cool and collected.

Which is the best

>>63813246 (OP)
so why does the radiation in metro and fallout linger when the world was bombed 10 and 80 years before? Some places makes sense like the glow, but otherwise isn't the half-life of the elements used in weapons grade nukes pretty short?

>>63837461
>Will we see cool power armor shit???
There’s already been leaks of the NCR Ranger power armor

>>63846998
Radiation works completely differently in the Fallout universe than ours, most people think the divergence point from our timeline is after WW2 when in actuality it’s the beginning of the universe

>>63846998
Fallout took the 1950s/1960s pulp sci-fi version of radiation where it can do things like make Godzilla or mutate plants or what not instead of the radiation in real life which gives people cancer.

>>63813246 (OP)
what are they using as propellant in the methods cartridges. black powder seems like a safe bet, but there's nowhere near enough smoke.

>>63823518
Yeah but that's still a bunch of spearchuckers vs basic NCR grunts with what looks like semiauto ARs. Maybe if the Legion outnumbered them by a thousand to one or something and had judaic levels of subversion where even the commiefornie president tries to give them what they want because he likes to think he's best buttbuddies with Caesar or something
Ackshually it looks like the spearchucker grunts move faster than I do even with my weapon holstered, but is that enough

>>63847550
Legion recruits are generally better trained and more numerous than NCR soldiers. Have to also remember that the NCR are using conscripts as well as recruits none of which are trained to a high level, generally low morale, and have chronic manpower problems, the NCR elite soldiers are also beaten on numerous occassions. This is without considering the institutional problems of the NCR of corruption, poor leadership, spies, incompetence, under supplied, and Hanlon sending false reports wasting even more resources. The NCR also lost a prison to the prisoners somehow, said prisoners then took over a nearby town and the NCR garrison has to sit across a bridge and watch it, not to mention them losing to ants and having the road closed.

The Legion have their elite spy and subterfuge unit who have by the start of the game taken out quite a lot of NCR positions, infiltrated the NCR, are close to getting energy weapons for the Legion, have the Fiends to act as a nuisance to the NCR, the Khans, and the Omertas. There's no end to the Legion's allies or useful people for them. The people of Freeside are against the NCR as well, the sharecroppers aren't in favour of them too much either, very few outside of the NCR support the NCR and more hate it or simply don't want it around. Some in the NCR aren't in favour of it either but if its being invaded by the Legion they might take up arms against the Legion.

If the player didn't exist, the Legion was on its to winning the Mojave and then would eventually win the war with the NCR.

>>63840294
Yeah. Far better than it's got a right to be. Easter egg: Libertatem's town code in the game files is 556 and the general store there always has a supply of M16's. Also if you want to have a big town all your own you can modify the towns to add more available industries to start.

>>63848807
nice added to the summer sale list

>>63846923
>In Game?
Duty
>Innawoods challenge
Freedom
>what we’d all most likely be in real life
Loners

why aren't there weapon mod packs yet for stalker 2?
STOP PLAYING GAMMA AND MOVE ON ALREADY FFS

>>63847693
Welp, now I got to see the legion skirmishing with the NCR at last. 3 spearchuckers trying to ambush a patrol of 4 dudes with ARs. I think one of them didn't even have spears to chuck, just a machete. They couldn't even kill a single commiefornie, man, I needed another one of those service rifles kek
I can probably buy the legion having the advantage locally because of infiltration and sabotage, since I haven't come across most of that other shit. I remember the ants, and I think I helped with that demoooralization. I do remember someone mentioning how the NCR is stretched thin and just can't defend everywhere. But how badly are they undersupplied? All these grunts look like they have ARs and ammo, while the legion doesn't even have enough spears to chuck.
So was Primm part of the NCR before? It sounded like the powder gang took over because they had a total of 1 sheriff and 1 deputy, both locals. Looks like even a smaller town like Goodsprings had more armed townsfolk than those guys. That whole questline looked like it was about a choice between joining the NCR or remaining independent with that new Punisher sheriff.

>>63847693
>>63851041
Yo wtf
I thought it was just the legion's special thing, but now the NCRfags are also running faster than me. And they have their guns out while I don't. Is there an athletics skill I missed or something

>>63849225
Because Gaylife 2 sucks ass and the zone is centered around you.

>>63851041
>3 v 4
The Legion's strength is in numbers, subterfuge, and allies.
>Primm
Primm was independent, most of the Mojave is, the NCR control their bases and even those they don't really control nor the area around them which is why Bitter Springs is attacked, Boulder City has the Khans hiding inside it, and the Fiends are able to roam almost freely up to McCarran. The NCR never properly took over the Mojave because they never sent in enough men, they focused on some military sites, the Dam, and the Strip, everything else is secondary to the War with the Legion so they'll eventually get what they don't have.
>Supplies
A bunch of the ranger stations, McCarran, Bittersprings, Camp Forlorn Hope, and Camp Golf all have NPCs complain about or quests about missing or not enough supplies or lack of medical equipment, also why they need dogtags collected so they can better allocate resources. The NCR can't/won't allocate all the resources it needs to properly take the Mojave which is why it has conscripts and elites mixed together with few actual volunteers.
>>63851129
Iirc level, armor, and weight carried affect movement speed, might also be a perk or stat for it I can't remember, its never bothered me.

>>63813246 (OP)

>>63833759
>>63833791
You forgot the part that Ashur's retarded goal is to somehow rebuild all of Pittsburgh with said malnourished slaves. He doesn't need slaves to find a cure for Maria.

>>63849225
It's harder to mod for

>>63813246 (OP)
metro exodus is for sale. are the dlc worth playing?

>>63813246 (OP)
Does anyone play VR shooters? Into the radius is the stalker clone. FPS are kind of lame compared to doing the manual of arms in vr.

>>63837511
not a surprise, since duty is eastern Ukraine and freedom is western Ukraine

>>63855993
Apparently the Metro VR is pretty good

>>63837511
I don't really like any of the new factions, they all just seem like diluted versions of old ones. Like in 20 years time you're still going to have crusty boomers arguing freedom vs duty, but I doubt you'll have aged zoomers arguing ward vs spark or whatever. On top of that, the legacy factions were done dirty, with duty being completely irrelevant and freedom being not anarchist at all. Also the removal of the Ukrainian military seems distasteful, like it feels weird that they ceded cordon control to the perimeter force and contracted out patrolling to ward. I get its a delicate real world topic, but I think sci-fi should be insulated from that shit. Or alternatively they could have just portrayed the Ward as not incompetent and heavy-handed, and then the change would have been unnecessary.

>>63851041
in-universe (and in theory) legion has the innate advantages that come with being conquerors
>no need to be literate, just train
>no need to labor/housekeep, that's for slaves; even more time to dedicate to training
>might makes might ideology, even more rationale to train
>conquer and assimilate other savage tribes; they already know how to chuck spears (which is already very intuitive) so no need to introduce post-apoc humanoids to tech (bullet or laser), let alone train them how to use them = easier to achieve battle-ready recruits
>the role of conqueror =/= ruler; no need to establish overly complex trade lines, just take what you need. Also don't need to give a shit about inhabitant "happiness" (slaves are slaves, everyone else is a soldier -> preoccupy their minds with the next target/glory)
also their weapons being primitive, makes me imagine that in-lore they have the advantage of being able to make slaves manufacture them. IIRC ncr relies heavily on the gun runners
now gameplay-wise....yeah guns usually have the edge unless speccing specifically for melee

>>63852961
The game implies the steelyard is an incredibly valuable asset, almost on par with Hoover dam. They essentially have operational but are held back by disease and radiation. Once they find a cure, he can attempt to transition to a better society. All theoretical of course, but that’s the story, and in the context of fallout will probably work.

>>63847693
>would eventually win the war with the NCR
Unlikely. Setting aside Caesar's desire to reform the Legion into a real state after taking Vegas, the main issue with the NCR is that the Mojave conflict is seen as a political boondoggle and giant waste of time and resources. If the Legion wins the conflict suddenly becomes existential to the NCR and a lot of the issues plaguing the NCR stop happening because it's in everyone's best interest to stop fucking around. Plus we know from FO2 that the NCR core territories are highly developed and have a lot of tech in comparison to the Legion. We know the NCR has functional vehicles, we know they have a rail network, and we know the Legion does not which means that the Legion is going to be advancing on the NCR at the speed of foot while the NCR will be reinforcing at the speed of trains.

>>63856188
Making Clear Sky secret bitches of the C-Con the whole time just so the developers can wank off their pet faction (Monolith/noontide) really irked me

>>63856461
>Plus we know from FO2 that the NCR core territories are highly developed and have a lot of tech in comparison to the Legion
They did when they were small, but judging by the low quality of their standard equipment and mediocre quality of even their best troops gear (repurposed swat armor); it seems like the high baseline standard from fallout 2 has been spread too thin by expansion.
>We know the NCR has functional vehicles
Yes, but to what extent? A handful of functioning haulers and a single presidential vertibird wont make a difference.
>we know they have a rail network
Had. The Mojave is cut off from the rest of the republic by a bridge collapse at the south of the map, possibly caused by the legion; plus half the stations in their lines are sabotaged/derailed by powder gangers or overrun by deathclaws. The only functioning rails the NCR have at the time of the game is the monorail. Hence why choosing to nuke the Mojave outpost at the end of the dlc is stated to completely isolate the NCR.

>>63851041
One has to start pretending what hear in dialogue and read in notes is what is actually happening as opposed to what you see happen in-game. Scripted Legion skirmishes at Camp Forlorn Hope will always spawn at level with firearms and always get bodied in five seconds, Legion assassins can be kited into random NCR patrols and trade 1-1.

However, if you pay attention to the recent history of the Legion given in dialogue and notes its questionable how they even work. Because according to in-game sources the Legion lost most of its experienced troops, officers, and institutional knowledge at the first Battle of Hoover Dam alongside so many casualties it could no longer carry out offensive operations in the Mojave. So while holding positions in the Mojave it then launches a massive campaign in Colorado to press-gang more tribals into the Legion, a campaign that stretches all the way to Denver and very nearly collapses the Legion due to a lack of supplies. So not only is the Legion seen in Vegas primarily made up of people who have only been a part of it for five years or less, while all of this is happening it is still able control all of its territory which spans New Mexico, Arizona, and parts of Colorado and Utah despite it being clear that the Legion is not an actual government, has no bureaucracy, and is maintained by an ad-hoc logistic system based on independent traders. The Legion quests shouldn't have been "we're so great we already won before you showed up but if you tag along we'll give you a participation trophy when they go off without a hitch" and more "yes, we're exactly as powerful as everyone fears, can you give us some food? We haven't eaten in three days. And while you're at it, can you get me some NCR uniforms? Lanius is gonna nail my balls to the ground if I can't prove we've been hitting NCR patrols and fuck if I'm gonna charge a machine gun."

>>63856509
>They did when they were small, but judging by the low quality of their standard equipment
Isn't humanity just starting to industrialize during fallout 2/new vegas? By the standards of the rest of the world their equipment quality isn't bad considering everyone else has to either scavenge their weapons or what they can create are just spears and shit. The fact that the NCR has a manufacturing capability at all puts them above other factions in the wasteland.

>>63856509
If the Legion wants to continue a conflict with the NCR it's going to have to enter NCR territory. And as far as armor goes, the NCR trooper armor has the same DT as the Legion Veteran armor, which means most of the Legion has worse armor.

Anyone know a good place to do a Stalker challenge in NW GA/SE TN?

>>63856461
The NCR does have those advantages but those become weaknesses the rail and logistics hubs would be targeted the same way Searchlight, Ranger Station Charlie, and Nelson were the NCR would have to advance and fight a guerrilla war in its own territory and as it moves forward if it advances into Legion territory. The Brahmin Barons may get onboard with the NCR and stop their bickering but equally as likely to try and make deals with the Legion or stay out of it entirely. New Reno, one of the more developed cities is still ran by criminal enterprises which as the Omertas prove could become friendly/loyal to the Legion until the Legion eventually destroys them all for their drug use and manufacture. The Legion would eventually win because of its willingness to accept casualites, create new allies, subterfuge, guerrilla warfare, and the NCRs diffuse nature and already weak state.
>>63856552
The Legion was unfinished because they spent too much time making content for all the companions because they were the OC doughnut steal from the tabletop games they played.
>>63856588
The NCR has some manufacturing but their economy is still scrap/scavenger based which requires constant expansion, the water and power provided by the dam is essential to the functioning of the state which is why House knows in the end he could charge whatever he likes for it with his army of robots.

>>63813745
>>63814368
The poster who mentioned doing a rerun of FO3 also mentioned FNV, you deranged fucking animals.

I've played the other stalker modpacks, i have my complaints with gamma but I'm gerally tired of (you) faggots shit talking it. its not peak sure, but the only reason why you shit talk it is being a contrarian or a follower of contrarians,

>>63813246 (OP)
How come everybody talks about the gay bethesda fanfiction fallout games and fallout 1 and 2? Hell fallout 2 had real licensed weapons in it. I started playing fallout tactics last weekend and I’m not really feeling it.

>>63847197
> NCR Ranger power armor
Not sure how I feel about that. I just hope we see at least one Ranger in their combat armor with a big iron on his hip.

>>63857733
What? What are you asking. the second sentence goes completely off in a different direction.
Fallout Tactics just felt more like a Wasteland fan game than anything. Not bad, just not what you'd expect and it does feel like a Fallout game.

>>63857733
>Why do people talk about the most accessible and best-selling Fallout games and the original 2
Beats me, we could talk about Tactics and Brotherhood if you want but they miss what makes Fallout Fallout and aren't the best games, also not many people played Tactics and even less played Brotherhood.

>>63846923
Freedom

>>63837461
None, could not care less about that garbage fire.

>>63857733
I have a soft spot for Tactics because I grew up with Commandos and JA. Fite me.
Dont care about elitism, let people enjoy things.

>>63858153
does not*

>>63857222
That assumes the Legion has zero issues ever when its spelled out the Legion's Mojave operations heavily require the people they're working with be in the dark about how the Legion functions or too short-sighted to care when everyone in the NCR knows exactly how the Legion operates. There is also the problem that the Legion replenishes itself through captured tribals, which are in short supply in the NCR.

>>63858153
>How come everybody talks about the gay bethesda fanfiction fallout games and never* about fallout 1 and 2?
Fixed.

>>63858153
>Fallout Tactics just felt more like a Wasteland fan game than anything.
i guess i finally realized why tactics is ny favorite one

>>63837461
fuck off to /tv/ with this golemgruel nigger

>>63860841
We do and having licensed guns in your game doesn't improve it, if anything it was jarring after 1 didn't have any.

>>63861817
deagle and mauser
>licensed guns
you just mean real guns, no mfer was paying for trademarks in 1998

>spend 2k on a new gpu
>still can't get 60 fps while walking around Rostok and Zalyssia
the sodomite that had the idea to make stalker 2 on the UE5 engine deserves a violent visit from Charon

>>63815520
Bogs my mind that bethesda never bothered to rig the character skeleton to change its posture when wearing a beefier armor. The arms clipping through the vest annoys me to no end.

>>63813246 (OP)
shouldn't you hate metro and stalker since they're ukraininan?

>>63862377
>How can I make yet another thread about Ukraine?

>>63862381
it's about vidya made in ukraine. also there was a lot of posts about how games were better when they were only made in america, so.....

>>63862359
Every single game on U5 has dogshit performance, it's a bane of modern gaming

>>63862390
I would take Bethesda's engine over UE5, shit's awful. I turned off frame gen thinking my game looked blurred whenever walking by trees but it turns out this shit is blurry regardless of fake frames being on or not. Everything has this hazy feel to it that makes me want to wipe my screen or my glasses.

>>63862377
Very weak bait kek

>>63863537
but it's true. /k/ hates anything european

>>63863618
Is this "/k/" in the room with us right now? Besides a few schizos, I see very little blind yuro-hatred on this board. It's just a coincidence that most nogunzposters are yuros, so they get called out the most.

>>63863828
>It's just a coincidence that most nogunzposters are yuros
I'm struggling to come up with a statement that is less true than this one.

>>63866589
Do you unironically believe that there are yuro pogroms on /k/ or something? Fuck off retardo.

>>63818123
I could have the best computer and I'dstill just play 20 year old games with it

>>63837361
I thought it was interesting but some things irked me
>5 round lee Enfield magazine
>40mm size 12 gauge shotgun shells
>meant to be replayable but if you do enough quests the fun of clues/leads is over

Seems like a game you would buy for $10 when the better sequel is released in a few years

>>63813246 (OP)
I could cure Veronica

>>63869796
I haven’t seen this yet.

>>63867170
>Euros aren't gay retards by nature, it's just a coincidence that all of them happen to be gay and retarded

>>63872162
no you can't

>>63849050
>what we’d all most likely be in real life
>Loners
Come on anon, half this board would hear about the wish granter and become Monolith zombies.

>>63877317
>b-but muh yuroooooooooooz
What a schizo fucking retard. We all know you'd prefer beaners since you're one of them, you don't have to announce it.

>>63878616
THE MONLITH PROVIDES WIVES! PRAISE THE MONOLITH, KILL THE UNBELIEVERS!

>>63880154
NO WOMEN ALLOWED IN THE ZONE!

>>63846923
Monolith, obviously.

>>63814589
It's sad going back to the Nexus mods page and seeing that mod devs have basically went "welp, we fixed what we could but shit's too fucked on a fundamental level."
We're gonna be coming up on a year soon and apparently not a soul has found a fix for the sub 100 meter NPC rendering radius
>Have an entire class of sniper weapons
>Basically all useless because the game is CQB central, even in the open world.
Why do we have to suffer game devs thinking "long range sniping" is like, 130 meters max.

>>63872162
You can have her, I want Christine

>>63869796
They seriously need to change the text color or background picture because I can’t read shit

YKWTD

>>63883032
fartclap

>>63883032

>>63881972
>Why do we have to suffer game devs thinking "long range sniping" is like, 130 meters max.
because it would be a nightmare to make a realistically sized world with 400m sightlines

the technical side has been solved now, but you still need to populate all that empty space with POIs which is not going to be solved by any technology other than cranial implants or having 10x the design staff
and the fundamental issue that close combat is more interesting, long range sniping is an option for people who like it, but the core gameplay of being up close and personal is generally more appealing

>>63883032
I have a lust for that thick red freedom bush

>>63883586
VICTORY