Let's give a round of applause for 2nd army of the world.
Over 1 million KIA and WIA!

Always knew they could do it!
Congrats on all the dead and crippled Russia

>>63818521 (OP)
This is why Russia will not end the war. If they do and haven't achieved total victory, it will be worse than the aftermath of the Soviet-Afghan war, which BTW the USSR collapsed 2 years afterwards.

>>63818521 (OP)
We'll also be reaching 11k tanks and 30k arty rather soon as well which is all sorts of neat

>>63818521 (OP)
Good job monke, you did it!

>>63818521 (OP)
>>63818559
I know the "fake and gay" kneejerk reaction to these info graphics is a dead giveaway for vatniks but now I have to agree there is no way these numbers are real simply because my brain can't believe that any nation in this century, let alone an impoverished one like Russia, can lose this much and still be in the fight
Maybe these will end up looking like peanuts when eventually india and Pakistan have an actual go at it, but this has to be unprecedented for a self-reported superpower

>>63818582
Their disabled men between ages 30-57 have jumped 500 000 in 2022, then the data was classified. Their birthrates plummeted to 200 year low, then the data was classified. Their life expectancy dropped by 7 months in 2024, then the data was classified. Taking population census of Russia has been banned until 2035. I actually think those numbers are conservative at best.

>>63818582
Those numbers all sync up with the realities on the front though. Russian troops are driving civilian vehicles into assaults and all fire support is rarer, Ukraine has fire superiority in some place's

>>63818521 (OP)
Holy based

>>63818607
Aren't we seeing new troops concentration at the borders with nato? They are probably saving the new stuff to take a bite out of the balts
>Ukraine has fire superiority in some place's
How the fuck are they not pushing them back then? Now more than ever they need to show they are capable of taking clay back, or they'll lose the meme oblasts when the Nth round of peace talks roll around

>>63818628
There is a difference between fire superiority and enough fire superiority. There are bits and bobs along the line where Ukraine is making small local advances every couple days, but the overall grind isn't going to change until either something big snaps or Putin forgets to staff the border again.
>Aren't we seeing new troops concentration at the borders with nato?
Sorta. They have declared the creation of a ton of units and basing infrastructure for them, and that's about it. They are trying to build up, but the level of success is difficult to ascertain. At the rate they're paying for sign-up, manpower still shouldn't be an issue, but heavy equipment going to be a pain in the ass.

>>63818628
Ukraine prefers to maximize casualties than attacking. It has been their strategy since the beginning. They push back some, but they do not fully go on the offensive. The more they kill the attacker, the less the attacker has to mount offensives into their territory.

>>63818521 (OP)
last time i checked the war had 350k fatalities from both sides, how many is it now?

>>63818582
Plus there's just some huge holes filled with many semi-trailer loads of deaduns

>>63818607
I'm way behind in my Russians getting BTFO mp4/webm collection, please sir, could you spare some more?

>>63818667
Depends on when was that last time, but I would estimate that number has gone up by around 100-150k
>>63818674
IIRC the ones from Donetsk and Lugansk aren't even tallied up, neither by russkies nor by stuff like OSINT. I don't know how many have died in meatwaves exactly, but official reports from there claim that both of these places have essentialy no native male population left.

>>63818700
>IIRC the ones from Donetsk and Lugansk aren't even tallied up, neither by russkies nor by stuff like OSINT. I don't know how many have died in meatwaves exactly, but official reports from there claim that both of these places have essentialy no native male population left.

>>63818702
"We're invading Ukraine because of the genocide in Donetsk and Lugansk"
>"What genocide? The Ukrainians aren't killing the Donetsk"
"Ukrainians?"

This is what happens with anyone preaching about maudlin racial solidarity. They will sacrifice you and yours for their sub-faction.

>>63818702
>I'll listen to these russian glowies telling me to build a new commie republic
>it'll work out this time for sure!

>>63818700
>>63818702
That's textbook genocide. How come the UN is staying silent about it while condemning the Gaza one

Even khohol propaganda must admit they are barely destroying any tanks anymore. What happened khohol sissy )))

>>63818722
I know that you are joking, but running out of tanks and then boasting that the enemy isn't destroying your tanks is something Russia would do. You are on point.

>>63818722
Or maybe there's not that many of them going into assaults anymore?

>>63818700
I don't think there's any male Lugandans or Donbabwe boys left about 2 years ago. A huge amount of them died in Mariupol and quite a lot of them got fed into Bakhmut as well.
Really big hits to them when the northern frontage folded out of Kharkiv that got the 1st Tank and 4th Guard got rolled up back whenever that happened. Lot of Lugandan's got what they fucking deserved then

But yeah, I do remember the line about them not being counted, the good old "not russ, so its not us!" along with the odd Syrian, actual African's, Asian and Poo mercs that flooded in at the same time for some rubucks

>>63818716
That and the fact Russia only launches missiles and drones into civilian sectors at homes and hospitals

>>63818722
There's a really good reason for that, there's not enough tanks

Yeah. Imagine how impressive it would have been if it was even remotely close to reality

>>63818628
>>63818637
>new troops concentration at the borders with nato
At least near the border with Finland, they emptied most of their bases in 2022-2023. Probably needed the men and armor elsewhere. There were some reports that even training personnel were sent to Ukraine. They may have had contracts that allowed them to be quickly deployed like that.
So if anything, they're just re-occupying the nearly deserted sites. I wouldn't call a few thousand troops at a training camp a "concentration", though the camp conditions may indeed resemble a concentration camp.

Some of the movements may also be related to last year's re-organization of Russia's military districts. They re-established the Cold War era Leningrad Military District in 2024, and transferred most of the Northern Fleet's administration there under the command of colonel-general Alexandr Lapin.
Lapin was previously known for commanding the army group "Center" when it caved in during the 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive. Kadyrov threatened to send him to the trenches for that.
Maybe they just kicked Lapin upstairs and he's trying to look busy?

>>63818716
The UN General Assembly is run by thirdies.

>>63818536
What would a total victory even look like? Getting Zaporizhzhia and Kherson seems extremely remote.
Would capturing Kramatorsk be enough?

>>63818759
Are you retarded or just pretending to be?

>>63818716
Antisemitism takes priority for the UN.

>>63818582

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/03/us/politics/russia-ukraine-troop-casualties.html

CSIS recently estimated 950k total Russian casualties, including 250k deaths. I don't know if they included wagnerites, norks, lugandans and donbabweans, and other foreign mercenaries.

They also estimated 400k total Ukrainian casualties, including 60-100k deaths.

>>63818521 (OP)
oh sweet more inflated ukropidor numbers

>63818790
this is how you know the numbers are true and honest

>>63818599
Any sauce on these classifications?

>>63818582
The war has been going for over three years (1206 days to be exact) and they take 1k in casualties per day on average. I'd say those estimates are conservative.

>>63818802
Mostly Rosstat

>>63818796
Basically

>>63818759
>>63818790
>Day 1200 (+3) of the 3 Day Special Military Operation

I wonder what's it liek to live in some rural town named Shitholegrad in Russia and see your town's men go to Ukraine and either disappear to the front or return with grievous disabilities. Three years running.

>>63818716
Because the UN is comprised of spineless cucks on top of actual sellouts. And Donbass IS the russki Gaza AKA they can simply deny access for any international orgs on excuse of it being a warzone, bribe the sellouts to ignore it/tone down the severity, and those independent reporters who still make it there have a good chance to either end up in some Siberian penal colony, be sent alongside the next meatwave or be killed in a very conveniently timed "ukronazi carpet bombing"

>>63818823
>AXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA DUMB PIDORASHKA PETUKH)))))) Only idiot trust government)))))))) good thing its not me))))
this is how they think, with probably some thought given on how they could steal the disappeared people's social security or army payments.

>>63818823
I think it lines up perfectly with the Russian national motto-
>AND THEN IT GOT WORSE

>>63818782
>lugandans and donbabweans
Do those even exist anymore?

>>63818521 (OP)
Seems like a small price to pay for the complete annihilation of an existential enemy. The EUroid cuckolds begged Putin to stop and were told to fuck off. Russia won't settle for anything less than the total eradication of the Urinian ''culture'',''people'' and ''country''. And all you can do is seethe and cope, while Urine is wiped out for good

>>63818740
I can see some russian general giving a report to Putin and ending with "But on the positive note, Ukraine has failed to destroy any more tanks this month"

>>63818782
Sounds like a credible source. I'm sure a DC think tank on MIC payroll would have no reason to peddle the most outlandish propaganda copypasted directly from the ukrainian government

>chimpouts ITT
>chimpouts in the catalog
Do jeets ever learn that doing this equals openly confirming any suspicions about whatever happened to zigros?

>>63818823
>Now that Vanya is gone to die in the Ukraine I can of rape his wife and steal his chickens xaxaxa

>>63818854
But I thought ukrainians are russians?
But I guess russians indeed are the existential enemy of russia.

>>63818861
The catalog ones are just your daily dose spam, he usually starts around this time or a little later. And today seems a little anemic compared to normal so I'm assuming he's not feeling quite 100%

>>63818867
>Ukraine invades Kursk
>Me Joking
>Better loot it all before Ukraine gets there, don't take the 1000 roubles relocation gibs Ivan, just loot your neighbours shit!
>footage emerges of Checheniggers stealing fucking everything
>,...
>fugg

>>63818861
>>63818877
It's kind of fun watching him get more and more unhinged as it becomes more and more obvious that Russia will lose this war.

>>63818854
>Ukraine is an existential enemy to Russia
kek

>>63818854
>The year is 2021
>Somebody tells you that in 4 years, Ukrainians will be "an existential enemy" of Russians

>>63818868
Like any proper agent of Chaos, they are first and foremost self-destructive in their schemes.

>never ending stream of footage of russians meat-waving entrenched position in civilian cars and on scooters
>somehow people are still skeptical of the casualty numbers
I really don't see why it's so hard to believe.

>>63818702
>>63818674
>>63818712

>>63818918
>Genoside
Nice Esl there Ivan

>>63818888
Russians see it that way. The idea that Ukraine is or would want to be independent is deeply threatening to them.

>>63818628
>They are probably saving the new stuff to take a bite out of the balts
What a brilliant strategy. After 1200 days of full scale war they cant even get Donbass secured. When up against a corrupt east-european post soviet nation that has been practically abandoned by their neighbours. But yeah I'm sure ziggers are preparing to expand the war against fucking nato.

Holy shit where does this retardation come from? Puccia is such a fucking shithole that after expending their entire soviet legacy of infinite AFVs and artillery, all they have to show for it is that the fighting is now happening 20km from Donetsk airport.

>>63818877
I think he had a little grippy sock vacation and his lack of effort is due to medication side effects

>>63818752
>That and the fact Russia only launches missiles and drones into civilian sectors at homes and hospitals
It's not that they only hit civilian targets but that those hits on civilian targets get the most attention. Obviously the Ukranians are not gonna give out free intel if the strike was successful or if there really was a military target at that location.

>>63818759
Ah yes because one of these is more trustworthy
>tovarich from dallas oblast on the platform notorious for bot misinformation
>the ukie gov

>>63818628
>saving the new stuff to take a bite out of the balts
>meanwhile the new stuff:

>>63818943
Putin's daily briefings keep telling him that things are manageable and they're going to win eventually. I'm sure that it has nothing with Putin's complaints department using an 8th-story window for a door. Are they actually stupid enough to do it now? I don't think so, but there's a lot of things we used to say Russia wasn't stupid enough to do. I think it's more that even in a scenario where they somehow win in Ukraine, they're not seeing a lot of timelines that don't involve a war with NATO down the line.

But, then again, they're fucking retarded, and for all we know, Monke really might get it into his head that all he has to do to get Europe to stop supplying Ukraine is to make a big show of force by kicking the Baltics in the balls.

>>63818943
>against fucking nato
Keep in mind it would be a NATO without the US
Totally doable, especially since no one in western Europe would want to die over the baltics

>>63818958
Samovar friendly. Actually brilliant

>>63818965

>>63818958
Even as kettle they can still serve the glorious Puccia.

>>63818759
>make a deal about exchanging the dead but don't tell a day exchange is supposed to happen
>on random date dump corpses on border, which you have because all your units have been told to prioritize stealing ukrainian corpses over your own people
>start yet another bullshit social media campaign about "how there has been no russian losses because ukrainians have no russian corpses" when Ukrainians learn about you dumping corpses on border from social media posts and had no corpses prepaired for dumping because ukrainian actually keep the corpses in various cold storages around instead of letting the bloat
Why is it that every russian action has some underhanded bullshit attached to it?

Something isn't adding up

>>63818759
>>63818952
Actually it's Mick O'Blast as a source
https://x.com/BowesChay

>>63818983
Because they pioneered the "outrageous headline for disinterested skimmers" format.

>>63818973
>Samovar friendly
Put two back to back and arm one with an RPG-7 and you have an all-rounder.

>>63818582
We can extrapolate the confirmed vehicles losses and numbers are more or less matching.
I personally think it's understatement and there are way more dead vatniks.

>>63818582
>impoverished one like Russia
that's exactly the reason why they can afford to lose that many men. russians have no reason to live.

>>63818965
>totally doable
>when you cant even capture donbass in over 3 years
???

>>63818770
>Belarus is gray
Just so you know - people hate Russia here as well.

>>63818582
They'll continue. Monke isn't racist. He's replacing them with kidnapped Ukrainian children and all kinds of poor people from countries with names ending in -stan. Russia's future is brown.

>>63818965
Why hasn't mighty Rossiya taken Baltics or fucked with Finland then? Surely they can't be scared of puny baltics and a bunch of tzuhnas?

>>63818993
>lives in Moscow and works for RT
>reposts Facebook misinfo memes like an 80yr old geezer
>Irish

kek

>>63818965
>no, the British aren't going to die for Danzig

>>63818952
A magic 8 ball is more trustworthy than the zelensky regime lmao
>ghost of kiev is totes real
>the snake island martyrs totally died
>we absolutely knocked out russian drones with a can of tomatoes
>we definitely shot down a su-34 with a hunting shotgun
>our glorious AD downed 600 of 400 shaheds launched
>Russia definitely kidnapped 200k, wait no 20k, wait no 400 ukrainian kids
>operation web totally destroyed *40* bombers

>>63818716
Because unfortunately, in an attempt to keep the Cold War from going hot, we gave the Soviet Union a seat on the Security Council, and then Russia Federation as the legal and universally agreed successor of the Soviet Union, inherited.
Unfortunately for us, the Russian Federation, is very, very, very stupid and ridiculously brazen than the Soviet Union. Not to imply the Union was nothing but 5D chess players in comparison to the chucklefucks running the show in the RF? They come off as that in comparison.

>>63818740
In line with "no working A-50s were destroyed by Ukraine's attack, xaxaxa!".

>>63819014
I think Nordics and Poland combined with Baltics could organize a very credible defense of the Baltics and Fennoscandia which is why ziggers have not attempted any incursion yet.

>>63819020
>RT bad
>queef independent good

>>63819022
Why so upset?

>>63819014
They had to get the potus on their side first. Now that they have him sucking them off we re already seeing movements on the border with nato

>>63819031
It´s your side that is flying communist flags and worshipping Stalin

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/05/09/pro-russian-communists-unveil-first-stalin-monument-in-occupied-ukraine-a89030

>>63819034
>if you call out my bullshit you’re upset

>>63819031
Love it how mindlessly they keep reposting these NPC memes without a hint of irony.

It's gonna be a rough day in dolbilnya.

>>63819022
>you see, losing a third of our bombers is but a scratch
What a cheeky pidor, lmao.

>>63819035
With what army? With what air force? Both are either mauled to hell, in Ukraine, or both.

>>63819030
As long as poland handles kaliningrad nordics and balts are probably enough for the actual defence

>>63819036
>communism bad waaah
I didn’t know they had wifi in the retirement home.
>russia is communist
I wish it was

>>63819047
Wow, a real commie. How's the things going, cumrag? Revolution soon?

I unironically can't think of anything sadder than being a commie slovak (likely pidorussian diaspora hiding from all the russian greatness in a European country) subhuman

>>63819031
Lol why is that all the russia supporters are fucking communists.

Bowes Chay here with George Galloway, George Galloway is self identified communist, he was simping for the soviets invading afghanistan in 1979

>>63819045
They lost a lot, but they still also have a lot and have an industry capable of producing more contrary to europe, which is scrambling to get their shir together with very little results
Keep in mind that back in avdiivka days they were losing willy nilly in a single day the equivalent of the entire tank fleet of a mid country like Italy
Can they roll over Berlin? Probably not, even Warsaw would be questionable at this point, bat the balts can't do shit
And I must stress, nobody west of them give enough of a fuck to sacrifice their own men to defend them

Those arty numbers are starting to smell pretty bad, they are now 3k above highest estimates of Russian total stocks (and should not include unrestorable pieces, or those worn out from overuse), and there's no sign of them declining. The only way it could make sense is if Russia was either manufacturing or buying thousands of new guns, but there's no credible reports of either (besides a couple hundred cock-sans).

If russia was actually leftist then America wouldn’t be sending congratulations for russia day. For example, china being sort of socialist is enough to make the usa piss and shit its pants nonstop. (Even though the usa should be a leftist country, we created labor day for fucks sake) China is several times stronger and more relevant than russia but the point stands)

>>63819062
>they are now 3k above highest estimates of Russian total stocks
Almost like those numbers are bullshit

>>63819063
>Why would the current administration be sucking off Russia

>>63819047
> Commies raising statues of stalin and flying communist flags in current year
> Why are you whining about the past ?

Great logic there

>>63819060
> Lol why is that all the russia supporters are fucking communists.
communists are based but chuds support russia too
>Bowes Chay here with George Galloway, George Galloway is self identified communist, he was simping for the soviets invading afghanistan in 1979
The USSR were the good guys in that war lmao. The CIA-backed durkadurkas would go on to orchestrate 9/11

>>63819061
>And I must stress, nobody west of them give enough of a fuck to sacrifice their own men to defend them
You're actually a fucking retard.

>>63819060
Yeah, that's our Slovak schizo. Near as we can tell, his family were Russians that got shipped over to take up something approximating a position of power. He's basically the commie equivalent of a trust fund kiddie mad that dad's money ran out.

>>63819070
>Commies raising statues of stalin and flying communist flags in current year
None of this is bad though. Stalin’s USSR defeated the nazis and saved ukraine from actual genocide at the hands of nazis.

>>63819072
I have empirical proof of that. I live there and nobody gives a fuck, though I met a hot Lithuanian pole dancer and I plan to ask her out
She got the right idea and fled the sinking ship. Hope more of her peers do the same as long as they are that hot

>>63819062
>and there's no sign of them declining.
This is a lie

>>63819061
The Norwegian air force could single-handedly wipe out any invasion of baltics at this point, with zero casualties.

>>63818993
>Facts should define the Narrative, the Narrative shouldn’t define the facts
wew

>>63819031
Happy Pride Month

>>63819079
>I am totes a WECTOID living in the WECT and my girlfriend is a DIRTY BALTIC WHORE who fled before the MIGHTY POCCNR invaded their shitholes
Been a while since I've last seen this type of demoralization propaganda

>>63819084

>>63818843
No

>>63819087
I didn't claim her as my gf. I don't think I have much of a chance tbdesu but you miss every shot you don't take so wish me luck

>>63819071
The muhjadeen came into existance due to soviet union invading the country.

Funny how it´s the usa that gets the blame and not Russia for invading afghanistan and firebombing cities and towns

>>63819089
>Actual russian soldiers sucking each others dicks
try to counter with
>Patch that kind of looks like dudes jerking each other off if you have the mindset to see it that way
That's some weak shit.

>>63819079
>I have empirical proof
the proof:
>Just trust me bro as I tell you this unprovable anecdote
like the other anon said, you're actually a fucking retard if you think that no one in the EU/European NATO would give a fuck if baltics were invaded by ziggers.
also you don't live in western europe and you've never met a lithuanian pole dancer

>>63819076
Saved them by doing a genocide on the ukranians ?

Oh right your a holodomor dening communist of course.

You know, it's telling that just 10 or so years ago if you were to admit to being a commie on 4chan of all places, you'd receive dozens of posts that largely amount to different variations of "fucking kill yourself".
And now these fags are welcome on /pol/.
Kinda says a lot.

>>63819080
Care to substantiate your claim.
According to those numbers, Russians have lost on average more than 40 pieces per day over the past month. The average for the whole war is about 24.

>>63819087
The baltics had africa-tier emigration rates until very recently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_net_migration_rate
>>63819099
Ukraine had a tranny propagandist and at least one officer who was caught on camera fucking a tranny
>>63819095
> Funny how it´s the usa that gets the blame and not Russia for invading afghanistan and firebombing cities and towns
That’s because the CIA was backing the fundamentalist durkadurkas while the USSR was busy defending the actual government of afghanistan from them

We broke 1M?
Congratulations Putin!
Hope it was worth it!

>>63819107
/pol/ is literally just a bastion of anti-west agents promoting and encouraging braindead contrarians

>>63819109
>actual government
no communist goverment is legitimate

>>63819105
>you defeated the nazis? Yeah well i bet you don’t believe in my fairytale you commie

>>63819108
My claim of you lying is supported by ziggers chimping out about their lack of arty saturation along the whole front. However the onus is not on me to prove that you're lying. It's you who must prove your assertion that nothing has affected Russian tube stocks. Your claim of tube stocks not diminishing *at all* is a lie unless you can prove it.

>>63819109
> That’s because the CIA was backing the fundamentalist durkadurkas while the USSR was busy defending the actual government of afghanistan from them

Defending it? The first thing the soviets did was going straight to the parlement, killing the president of afghanistan and massacring's the entire government of afghanistan.

>>63819010
>people hate Russia here as well.
So maybe do something about it

>>63819115
The republic of afghanistan wasnt communist so your retarded neocon screeching isnt even relevant

>>63819113
I wonder how much they pay people to post propaganda on /pol/ these days.

>>63819124
Then USSR had no reason to be there and was in fact violent invaders

>>63819109
>here's random emigration numbers straight outta wikipedia to prove that I am totes a dirty degenerate wectoid
kek

>>63819126
> Then USSR had no reason to be there
Reasons that you don’t like (and maybe don’t understand) are still reasons.

>>63819118
You misunderstood what I meant by declining - I wasn't referring to the number of pieces available at the front, but to the rate of reported losses. If Russia was really as low on arty as it should be according to the numbers, the daily losses should be going down substantially, which they are not.

>>63819083
People who spread paid propaganda missinfo always have stuff like this on their profile

>>63819131
As USSR had no legitimate goverment due being commies, they had no legitimate reasons either.

>>63819137
>government isnt legitimate because my middle school teacher said commies bad

>>63819133
NTA, but do we know if they're tracking mortars in that? Most OSINT analysis leaves it out because its a clusterfuck, but maybe that could have something to do with it. Just an off-the-cuff thought, though.

>>63819141
Commies deserve only death so they have no legitimacy

>>63819102
Totally do and totally did tho
I'm sure everyone would feel sorry for them at first but then it would just phase out into the background like it happened for Ukraine. The average take here is "putin is crazy and won't ever give up, they should give up already" and "they did a referendum"
Can't imagine it would be much different for balts just because they formally insure nato

>>63819061
>have an industry capable of producing more contrary to europe
2300 Armatas by year 2020!! western pidors quake in face of mighty rassian vear!!

>>63819142
AFAIK mortars are included in both the reported losses and prewar reserve estimates (the highest ones are ~25k total in-service+storage towed+mortar).

At this point I have to conclude we have false-flagging ziggers in here, because surely no self-respecting TZD enthusiast would derail the thread by feeding trolls.

>>63819148
>Totally do and totally did tho
prove it if you want to be taken seriously, lying zigger

>>63819154
What kind of proof would you accept?

>>63819089

>>63819158
Post it.

>>63818582
I don't believe any numbers because both sides are poisoning the well. Sure call me a Vatnik all you fucking want but we're only ever going to get generalized numbers at best and that will be long after the conflict is over.

>>63819164
Post what

>>63819150
I mean, the Russians are using North Korean mortars now. We know for a fact they're in dire enough straits they have to buy nork mortars to bolster their own fire support.

>>63819167
Your "proof"

>>63819158
what are you willing to provide? or should I just blindly trust some faggot on the internet when he confidently claims how in this mystical unnamed westenr european nation the population is ready to just bend over as ziggers threaten European security? get real retard

also a million of your zigger friends have died or been grievously wounded in Ukraine, you ought to join them

>>63819165
We call you a vatnik because the Ukes have generally been accurate with their numbers. Operation spiderweb was probably their most extreme claim of 41 hit and "only" 33 or so planes visually confirmed by video and satellite imagery. The million mobiks thing has been confirmed by both independent sources and even ziggers themselves in their interviews, we have a floor for how many tanks are lost with Oryx visually confirmed (and the fact we don't see any big zigger armor pushes), we can tell they're out of APCs and IFVs because the infantry are now using motor bikes and civilian sedans to attack positions covered in concertina and the Russians are forced to buy North Korean artillery pieces just to keep up.

At this point, anybody going "Buh muh both sides" is being disingenuous, deflecting or is woefully misinformed.

>>63819170
They also bought a few hundred Koksans, as I said above. But how many mortars could they have possibly received? It would have to be many thousands to make the numbers work and surely we'd have got some reports.