What did Israel use to hit the centrifuges if they didn't have the capability to deploy the big bunker buster bombs?

>>63823632 (OP)
multiple gbu-28 if lebanon is anything to go by

>>63823632 (OP)
Israel supposedly bought one of these things from the US, but they have no way to deliver it so... your guess is as good as mine.
Guess there's a few options.
1. US delivered the bought bomb to the address Israel specified. It was purely a delivery service, so no US participation
2. Israel somehow figured out how to strap it on a missile
3. Something even more insane

>>63823632 (OP)
“We’re sorry about your centerfuges unexpected accident”

they've been using albm

iskander for example, can hit bunkers underground with a delayed fuze

israel likely has the same feature on one of theirs (they have two)

>>63823632 (OP)
Could an airliner yeet one?

>>63823706
I don't think an airliner can make it that deep into Iran, especially since the IRGC has a sixth sense for detecting civilian aircraft and their air defenses are trained against airliners.

>>63823669
>Israel somehow figured out how to strap it on a missile
Just turn it into giant cruise missile. Strap wings and engine to it.

>>63823706
Too risky with Iran using russian SAMS.

>>63823632 (OP)
They must of used the "Next Generation Penetrator munition".

>>63824053
Na probably "penetrating extreme energy nuke"

>>63824053
>must of

>>63823632 (OP)
aren't the iranian centrifuges half a mile below ground?

>>63824486
Cool it with the anti-Semitism.

>>63824486
80meters I believe

They need to drop Tom Cruise or a proton torpedo on the vents.

This. The tiny wings on top are part of the glide-bomb kit.

>>63823632 (OP)
Iranians have different facilities at different depths, they hit the easiest, they need the US to go after the others

Will the jews get this bomber from the americans?

>>63823690
That's cute, but delayed fuzes have been around since the Crimean war. That's very much not the same thing as a bunker buster.

>>63823632 (OP)
>>63823636
I like the look of the old laser-guided bombs. Dunno why they please me, but they do.

>>63823669
>1. US delivered the bought bomb to the address Israel specified. It was purely a delivery service, so no US participation
If they actually pulled of legalistic fuckery of this magnitude, I may just die of laughter.

>>63823669
Can't you maybe build a costume f-15i rack for the moab?

>>63823632 (OP)
You can use normal penetrators. They are accurate enough that you can hit the same hole over and over thus pile driving deeper.

>>63823632 (OP)
Alternatively, iran lied about how deep they dug the bunker

>>63825459
maybe
>>63823632 (OP)
reminder that the mossad snuck in explosives in a table to natanz before
they might've done something like that again and struck the outside infrastructure to prevent any damage control while everything disintegrates inside

>>63823632 (OP)
ALBMs. Golden Horizon, ROCKS, Lora...

did they actually hit their centrifuges?

>>63826198
no, they just hit commanders & surface level shit

>>63825459
Why would Iran even admit to making a bunker underground?

>>63823669
F-15 center pylon?

>>63823632 (OP)
No radiation level spike, they didn't hit them.

I never realized how small the B2 is

The USAF struck it, plain and simple, the Trump admin simply lied about it. The DoD doesn’t do wars anymore, but they can at least do light bombing.

>>63823669
>Something even more insane
Israel sells the bomb to Iran and rigs it to blow when they put it in munitions storage

>>63823632 (OP)
>60m of 5k concrete
>8m of 10k concrete
Can a concrete doctor explain to me why there's such a huge difference?

>>63829771
Inverse square, if I had to guess.

>>63823632 (OP)
>>63823632 (OP)
Does the MOP use a rocket to reach supersonic speed, or does it just use its terminal velocity?

>>63823632 (OP)
>8m of 10000 psi concrete
lol. why don't everybody build bunkers with 10k psi concrete ? btw what is psi ?

>>63823632 (OP)
>hardened ferro cobalt alloy
what if the enemy puts an hardened ferro cobalt alloy layer on top of concrete to protect their bunkers ?

>>63829771
Different concrete has different properties and can tolerate different pressures. Last I heard Iran universities research concrete a lot and they were adding shit to the concrete mixtures with tons of steel fibers to reinforce it to high hell. Maybe it can defeat the bunker buster, but it probably be too annoying and expensive to implement. Not to mention Israel can just target the weak point and bury the entrance

They didn't hit the centrifuge hall, its like 50 meters underground, they hit the power station instead and that probably damaged a lot of the centrifuges

>>63830494
I don’t know much about centrifuges, why would cutting off their power supply damage them?

>>63823632 (OP)
Bibi will now tell Trump in for a penny, the Iranians are clearly going for a bomb, if you don't want that then you need to finish the job (or I suppose gift Israel some B2s and bunker busters)

>>63829360

>>63830802
Power surge is a bitch, heavy machinery also doesnt like sudden stops

>>63830956
who cares?
bibi himself said iran already has enough material for 10 bombs. making new material isn't a priority nor is the existing material at natanz anymore.

>>63823632 (OP)
I don't think they've managed to directly hit the centrifuges yet but for sure they've collapsed many of the tunnels/entrances and, without maintenance, those centrifuges will eventually fail on their own. That said, the way this shit is going, I don't see any way Iran gets out of this without the US going full B-2 facerape mode so those centrifufes getting MOP'd is probably just a matter of time.

>>63831009
centrifuges are dirt cheap and easy to hide somewhere else -- not that israel even tried to attack iran's other known enrichment plant

>>63831057
There is a slim chance the Islamic Republic is going to get out of this intact the way this has been going. Sure, you can build more centrifuges, but that's going to difficult when your people hang you in the streets.

>>63829360
u dense on purpose?

>>63831067
>regime change fantasies
non-credible, see the rest of mena

>>63831100
>see the rest of mena
Like Syria? Or Libya? Or Egypt? Or Iraq? Or Yemen? The last 25 years in the middle east has been replete with regime change.

>>63824625
Well done

>>63831112
most of those were worse for israel.
persia giving up its nuclear program is not in her national interest. everyone knows about ukraine.

>>63831191
>most of those were worse for israel.
Must be why Bibi and the Shah both called for the Iranian people to instigate an uprising and for the Iranian Army to defect yesterday.

>>63823632 (OP)
They didn't hit them, and actually Iran's nuclear program isn't an important objective in this campaign. Weapons grade uranium is 90% U-235, but the latest IAEA report says Iran hasn't enriched any Uranium past 60%. As you point out, Iran's most important nuclear program equipment is deep underground and not reachable with Israeli weapons. So the nukes excuse doesn't make sense. What makes more sense is Bibi wants to 1. topple the Iranian government and get a friendlier regime in its place and 2. keep the war status going for his own survival. Ironically, when this regime change strategy fails as it probably will, Iran will definitely resume its weapons program and become the nuclear threat that hawks like Netanyahu always pretended they were.

>>63831217
>Weapons grade uranium is 90% U-235, but the latest IAEA report says Iran hasn't enriched any Uranium past 60%.
This and I never understood why people think Iran would consider it in their interests to lie about NOT having nuclear weapons. Lying about having them makes a lot more sense. Nuclear weapons are a deterrent, if you could convince the rest of the world that you have nukes, they'd be less likely to fuck with you because nobody wants to open pandora's box. If they want to destroy you, they can destroy you nukes or no nukes, but there's a lot less motive to destroy you when you might be able to annihilate one of their cities before they manage to complete your destruction

>>63831248
there's no civilian use for 60% enriched uranium. mess with me and we actually go for breakout.

>>63831276
>there's no civilian use for 60% enriched uranium.

Not true but I agree with the overall point you're implying. But of course Iran did not dismantle the weapons program, it was paused. And the fact they were cooperating with the IAEA, and weren't enriching to actual weapons grade material, shows the suspension of the program was genuine.

>>63831393
>And the fact they were cooperating with the IAEA,
Is that why the IAEA just censured Iran at the UN over their nuclear program, because they were cooperating?

>>63831402
read the actual IAEA report
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-statement-to-the-board-of-governors-9-june-2025
>The Agency’s comprehensive assessment of what took place – based on our technical evaluation of all available safeguards-relevant information – has led us to conclude that these three locations, and other possible related locations, were part of an undeclared structured nuclear programme carried out by Iran until the early 2000s and that some activities used undeclared nuclear material.
an undeclared nuclear programme till the early 2000s isn't relevant to its current programme which is in compliance..

>>63831495
>an undeclared nuclear programme till the early 2000s isn't relevant
Yes it is because undeclared nuclear material is literally a violation of the non-proliferation treaty than Iran is a signatory to.

>>63831506
it's obviously scooping up dirt from decades ago to justify Bibi's military action. Look how the IAEA vote split by country, only pro-israel westoids voted to censure while the others voted against or abstained. FAR from a unanimous vote and obviously political.

>>63831535
Irrelevant. Having undeclared nuclear material in a violation of the NPT. Iran violated it.

>>63823863
or a IRBM like South Korea did

>>63831551
... in the opinion of pro-israel countries. In the opinion of anti-israel countries, no. And in the opinion of non-aligned countries? Also no.

>>63831572
Yes the famously pro-Israel UN.

>>63831577
https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-iaea-sanctions-728b811da537abe942682e13a82ff8bd

>The resolution was put forward by France, the United Kingdom, Germany and the U.S.
>Russia, China and Burkina Faso opposed it, while 11 abstained and two did not vote.

>>63831551
wrong, a violation was not declared. read the report.
>As a consequence of this, the Agency is not in a position to determine whether the related nuclear material is still outside of safeguards.

>>63831664
That just makes them seem incapable of doing their job.

>>63823632 (OP)
>Made out of ferro-cobalt alloy
>ferro-cobalt alloy

Fancy name for HSS, fucking journo.

>>63825039
B-2 has excellent shipping services I hear. Quiet and unobtrusive too. Your package just appears.

>>63832023
Like the Amazon drones?

>>63824673
>Will the jews get this bomber from the americans?
B-2, never in a million billion years.
B-21, maybe if they cook up an export variant.
>>63831606
Wow, Burkina Faso. Can't do anything without their support.

>>63823669
>1. US delivered the bought bomb to the address Israel specified. It was purely a delivery service, so no US participation
sigh...we know that israel directly controls all of the US's activities. there's no reason to be coy about this, hebe

>>63823632 (OP)
Would laminated steel reduce the bomb's penetration?

>>63823632 (OP)

>>63823632 (OP)
Maybe we gave them some massive ordnance penetrator, maybe not. Maybe they were dropped by B-2 Spirit, i didn't see anything.

>>63831217
He really needed US participation to realize a regime change. The IAF is good, but it’s too small to seriously dismantle the regime. They really tried to get the US onboard but they found out the US military doesn’t do war anymore and hasn’t for over a decade, so it didn’t matter what Trump wants or tries to do, it’s just the way things are now so Netanyahu had no choice but to rely on the IAF because the Israeli Navy is not a serious combat organization and the army is a peasant military with very poor force projection beyond short border hops. In reality the IDF is very weak, it’s just the IAF which maintains its legend. But, as you’ve mentioned, even if the IAF can’t bring him victory, just being in a war is good enough for Netenhatyhu. If he’s hoping that the US will join the war in the future he’s sadly misguided, though; the US is officially out of the war business for the foreseeable future.

>>63836090
>>63831217
I think they're just stirring shit to delay further American-Arab rapprochement. The Trump Qatar tour where he got patronized as an imperial figure happened at the same time he started snubbing Bibi.

I do think the days of the Zionist Lobby in the United States are coming to an end very soon. There are probably a few evangelical boomer Holden Bloodfests that are genuine jewish supremacists, but I think any American politician under 50 just doesn't like the Zionists, they're just forced to suck their cock. I can imagine Vance or Rubio continuing the Trump brand in five years time, and just telling Israel to get fucked.

>>63833608
>sigh
Fuck off back to your hole, but beffore you do don't forget to tongue my anus