Thread 63824403 - /k/ [Archived: 1044 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:17:21 AM No.63824403
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It is said that drones cause 60% of Russian casualties. And from publicly available source of drone footage people managed to count up 35000 dead Russians in last 280 days
Would 150000 dead and further 75000 wounded(2 KIA: 1 WIA) be appropriate number of assumed Russian casualties in a single year?
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:21:38 AM No.63824417
>>63824403 (OP)
This may help: https://200.zona.media/
https://en.zona.media/article/2025/06/06/casualties_eng-trl
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:24:02 AM No.63824424
>>63824417
mediazona counts only CONFIRMED DEAD, they get it from publicly available sources. Mind you, another 100k families contacted Ukrainian side about looking for their missing(not dead) family members
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:24:53 AM No.63824428
>>63824403 (OP)
That's nowhere near enough to achieve TZD.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:26:14 AM No.63824434
>>63824403 (OP)
>And here's Andrew. What's your job?
>I count dead Russians on the drone footage.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:27:46 AM No.63824440
>>63824403 (OP)
That estimate (150,000 dead a year, 75,000 wounded a year) which comes out to 900,000 casualties; which is probably the median between the floor and the maximum dead and wounded. I wouldn't call it accurate however; because it's not accounting for casualties from exposure, disease, friendly fire, blocking troops, zigger "punishments", drone accidents and the like.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:29:48 AM No.63824447
>>63824424
I know, but if you're trying to estimate casualties it's good to have multiple data points. Corroborating evidence leads to a better approximation of the real number.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:31:32 AM No.63824452
>>63824440
>which comes out to 900,000 casualties
I think it's unfair to extrapolate 2025 death rate to 2023 and 2022 when less Russians died per day. Mediazona believes more Russians died in 2024 than in 2023 and 2022 combined(ignoring Donbabweans lmao) and 2025 is further trending upwards
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:37:51 AM No.63824470
>>63824452
That's fair, but then we cut it to say 600,000 or 700,000 (Which were basically the minimum claims even the ziggers admitted to last year) there's still a good chunk of people that are dying "off camera" as it were. Especially since the ziggers are very keen on keeping quiet about their dead to avoid having to pay out death benefits. Like, if we look at the US in Vietnam; a good 11,000 men out 58,000 died as a result of non-combat actions and even the 60s US is a far more competent and advanced warfighting force. I wouldn't be surprised between any infighting, poor medical and living conditions, the lack of communication between units, whatever racial tensions they have, as well as the usual casual brutality of their punishments haven't contributed a significant amount of losses to their fighting force.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:42:19 AM No.63824476
>>63824470
I believe you would be correct, likely 700k casualties to combat actions, probably another 200k from non-combat related things
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:00:15 PM No.63824512
>>63824403 (OP)
>2:1 KIA:WIA
How do you even let things get that bad? WW2 US had 1:3
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:04:11 PM No.63824521
>>63824512
1. drones weren't a thing back then;
2. US actually had working casevac and medevac;
3. it's russia, what did you expect;
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:05:57 PM No.63824524
>>63824512
In ww2 Americans had medics and evac. Current war is far more lethal.
Also ww2 bandages were more modern than tourniquets used by vast majority of Russian army
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:06:52 PM No.63824525
>>63824512
>send platoon to rush B
>get droned or shelled in no man's land
>flee in disarray, leave casualties behind
>beat survivors for cowardice
>repeat
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:20:37 PM No.63824543
>>63824403 (OP)
For fairness you need to evaluate both sides by the same criteria and methodology.

RU:
https://en.zona.media/article/2025/06/06/casualties_eng-trl
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-minister-says-48000-relatives-trying-trace-soldiers-via-dna-2024-12-04/

UA:
https://ualosses.org/en/soldiers/
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/more-than-70-000-ukrainians-missing-since-1749749865.html
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:25:05 PM No.63824551
>>63824543
48k MIA is outdated because Russian military filed further 26000 MIA cases since start of the war.
70000 missing Ukrainians also counts missing civilians
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:26:06 PM No.63824555
>>63824551
Since start of a year*
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:38:58 PM No.63824593
>>63824512
grandfathers sacrificed and died for freedom))) we can sacrifice and die too))) it is honor))) degenerate westerners do not understand))))
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:43:04 PM No.63824601
how do you guys manage to care this much about this shit?
I could not give a single fuck about Russia or Ukraine or who wins.
Why is this half of all threads on /k/ and has been for the last few years?
there wasn't even this much talk about Iraq or Afghanistan wars back in the mid to late 00's.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:46:06 PM No.63824612
>the biggest war in yurop since ww2
>WhY dO yOu CaRe???????
Silence, pidor.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:47:37 PM No.63824617
>>63824551
But 65000 MIA on Ualosses are not civilians though.

https://en.zona.media/article/2025/06/05/mia

"This means that nearly 23,500 claims are definitely related to military dead. Two-thirds of the “hidden” claims in 2024-2025 are clearly excessive compared to previous years: this gives another 12-13 thousand “extra” claims that are related to the war."

"So, by mid-2025, between 30 and 40 thousand Russian servicemen were filed in courts as missing or dead."

That's a different methodology (with a lot of speculation made) from the 48000 DNA tests mentioned by Putin's cousin.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:47:47 PM No.63824618
>everyone that is tired of the incessant posting of off topic shit is Russian
christ this board has fucking nosedived.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:51:12 PM No.63824628
>>63824403 (OP)
No, it's spring and Russia is on the offensive again, casualties are going to be higher right now.
I'm a moderate but that's reality.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:53:17 PM No.63824633
>>63824601
post guns with timestamp
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:54:05 PM No.63824635
>>63824618
>Discussing war and equipment used in them
>Off-topic because it exposes how retarded russia is
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:54:15 PM No.63824637
>>63824601
>there wasn't even this much talk about Iraq or Afghanistan wars back in the mid to late 00's.

yeah because troops overseas barely had internet, twitter wasn't a thing so finding their posts was way harder and our only news was TV news.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:54:27 PM No.63824639
>zigger is reminded of confirmed zigger casualties
>ummmmm why do you care, everyone is tired of this, just stop making these off-topic threads
Be less obvious.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:56:35 PM No.63824643
>>63824618
Plenty of thread about ARs and glocks up man, this is an interesting thread with no shitflinging until you showed up
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:58:50 PM No.63824650
>>63824635
>thread clearly asking about projected Russian casualties in a war
>ItS aBoUt WeApOnS
be less of a fucking retard
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:59:38 PM No.63824651
>>63824617
> But 65000 MIA on Ualosses are not civilians though
They have taken all adult men from that 70000 and called them soldiers. Mediazona complained about Ualosses “metrology”
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:00:39 PM No.63824653
>>63824637
This conflict might be a bit more interesting to look at and analyze, too.
If we had smartphone videos from Iraq or Afghanistan, most of them would probably consist of a bunch of crayon eaters yelling and magdumping a house for two hours, after which it gets leveled by an air strike, after which it turns out there were actually no combatants in there to begin with.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:01:29 PM No.63824654
>>63824650
This board has had countless threads about wars and soldier experiences with no specific focus on equipment you can dig up in the archives but it just so happens that this one pisses you off. Figures kek
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:04:41 PM No.63824657
>>63824639
>everyone that doesn't like the weapons board being shitted up by /pol/ is russian
you are completely fucking retarded lol
/k/ has turned into a fucking echo chamber for retarded faggots, exactly like liberals have done to their places of congregation. If you aren't part of the hivemind for /pol/shit spillover than all the spastics come out of the woodwork seething about MuH RuSsIaNs

>>63824654
I'm not pissed off, quit projecting. I am tired of you fucking faggots making thinly veiled /pol/ threads under the auspices of them being weapon related.
I don't give a fuck if its a pro ukranian thread or pro-russian, the funny thing is there ARENT any pro-russian threads because of everything I said above.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:05:37 PM No.63824659
>>63824543
Since RU is at 112,000 KIA + 48,000 MIA = 160000 KIA + MIA
and UA is at 142,000 KIA + MIA
I interpret this as meaning the yearly casualties of each side are around 200,000 KIA/MIA/WIA. I would say it's premature to say the Russian casualties are at 1,000,000, probably more like 650,000.

I think we're at the halfway point of this war and in 2 or 3 years we'll definitely surpass 300,000 deaths and 1 million casualties on each side.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:06:54 PM No.63824660
>>63824659
>I would say it's premature to say the Russian casualties are at 1,000,000, probably more like 650,000.
That's some severe cope. Even last year the Russians admitted to at least 600,000 on their side.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:07:00 PM No.63824661
>>63824657
>discussing weapons of war on the weapons board is bad!!
post guns with timestamp?
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:07:01 PM No.63824662
>>63824657
You can just close the thread nigger, go bother someone else
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:07:44 PM No.63824668
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>>63824512
2/3s of seriously wounded die in treatment to preventable shit like infections. If you're not capable of returning to the fight, you get left to die.
Even if your ability to return to the fight is to hobble forward on crutches, you get sent to die anyway.

>>63824618
War has always been entirely on-topic for the board, and any pretense of that not being the case is an obvious tourist or malicious shill trying to drive the discussion away from the subject.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:07:49 PM No.63824669
>>63824601
It's a war
A peer war
A war in which myriad different weapons are used
A war that has forced the belligerents to adapt and innovate
A war that has exposed slavshit as slavshit
A war that has exposed Russoids as subhuman and not worthy of the worship they got in the years preceding this war
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:10:08 PM No.63824675
>>63824403 (OP)
One of the most interesting things about drone warfare is not necesarily how it turns war into a remote operator thing or how it allows for automatization or having pervasive surveillance in your entire front.

But rather how much data it allows to be analyzed. In the past, to analize combat data you had to go through combat accounts(subjective, and people under stress easily over or under stimate) and after effects. So, you had good information before battle and after battle, but not during the battle, which was this mysterious place where things just happened. Now, this could be solved issuing a camera to at least one squad member, but viewing angles are not the same, not everyone can have one and there are risks of leaks(like the SOF operators wrecked in Central Africa some years ago).

Drone warfare instead, requires a camera, you can save the recording locally and you have information of exactly what the operators sees and does and even more(speed, position, drone attitude, signal, bands under EW...) you can analyze data finally bridging that gap, to the point that yet again, the problem is not the collection of data but how fast you can analyze all of it in a way that produces actionable intel and useful procedures in real time.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:10:28 PM No.63824676
>>63824657
>there ARENT any pro-russian threads because of everything I said above
Because they keep clogging every discussion with nonstop lies kek just like every discussion about the Armata and Su-57 and so on
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:17:39 PM No.63824687
>>63824601
iraq and afghanistan didn't have footage of almost every single person dying in the conflict
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:18:39 PM No.63824688
>>63824687
It also wasn't right next to Europe nor concerning a huge thrat to European security.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:34:52 PM No.63824730
>Thread about massive Russian losses
>Uh, guys why do you even care about this? I, for example don't care about this at all. At all. And you shouldn't either. All the cool people I know don't care about it. Just stop talking about it, OK?
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:50:10 PM No.63824776
>>63824512
Have you seen all the suicide compilations?
I don't think Russians want to live
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:53:48 PM No.63824789
>>63824403 (OP)
>It is said that drones cause 60% of Russian casualties
The remaining 40% is probably other Russians.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:55:23 PM No.63824793
>>63824601
>how do you guys manage to care this much about this shit?
Ukies are europeans being invaded by subhuman (zubhuman, if you will) horde. Simple as.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 1:56:24 PM No.63824796
>>63824601
>there wasn't even this much talk about Iraq or Afghanistan wars back in the mid to late 00's.
because both of those weren't actual wars, martinez
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 2:15:51 PM No.63824849
>>63824512
1. the battlefield and the fields that lead up to the battlefield are saturated with drones = the golden hour? more like the golden 24 hours. teach your soldiers proper first aid, give them proper tq's, what they do in the first hours matter a lot for survival when they sometime get out of the front.
2. russian fatalism
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:15:38 PM No.63825519
>>63824849
>teach your soldiers proper first aid, give them proper tq's, what they do in the first hours matter a lot for survival when they sometime get out of the front.
Get them radio contact with a medic or a doctor and walk them through it.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:26:37 PM No.63825565
>>63825519
A mine or grenade can lead to you bleeding out in 60 sec, worst case scenario. Also, jamming.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:35:16 PM No.63825622
>>63824601
>why are people on /k/ interested in an ongoing land war in Europe
Play in traffic, you disingenuous concern-trolling fuckwit.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:36:19 PM No.63825630
>>63825565
Could also get got in a place that a traditional TQ can't get, like the pelvis, shoulder or god forbid the neck.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:38:37 PM No.63825644
>>63825565
I'm not talking about cABC
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:40:35 PM No.63825656
>>63825630
>or god forbid the neck.
Yeah shit's fucked. All i know is apply big bandage to it while getting pressure on it by attaching the other end by the shoulder, so you don't end up doing a noose haha.
>>63825644
Oh. Still, cABC is of the essence here with drones and shrapnel galore.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 5:45:12 PM No.63825679
>>63825656
>Oh. Still, cABC is of the essence here with drones and shrapnel galore.
Sure, but a lot of medevacs are severely delayed, up to entire days, so further stabilization is often needed.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:31:10 PM No.63825939
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>>63824601
Go back to Pol brown.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 6:33:16 PM No.63825948
>>63824601
There wasn't footage of a drone flying up someones ass back then
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 8:17:20 PM No.63826569
>>63824657
"I'm not pissed off" he cried as he proceeded to transparently have a melty over people posting about an ongoing peer war on the weapons board.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 8:53:54 PM No.63826715
>>63824403 (OP)
Why is he SO FUCKING AUTISTIC? I'd understand if it was his job to regularly count dead Russians and destroyed equipment for an analytic centre or agency, but AFAIK he's just an OSINTer, basically an e-celeb. Why the hell is he doing it? And the way he replies to people makes it seem like he's on the far end of the spectrum. No normal person would spend THAT much time watching dead bodies and destroyed BMPs and Buhankas. Doesn't he have a gf, or bf, whatever, I'm not homophobic? Doesn't he have anything else to do with his life, like reading books, or going to the gym, or whatever normal people usually do in their free time?
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:00:22 PM No.63826748
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>>63824601
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:11:10 PM No.63826798
>>63824657
>Still won't post guns
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:18:37 PM No.63826849
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>>63824512
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:22:18 PM No.63826873
>>63824659
there is literally no way in hell that someone actually believes that russia somehow lost 1mil

i have said this before ukraine hasnt posted a single day since 2023 with KIA below 1000
if we take at face value what ukraine says
then they have only lost 51k vs 1 million
they should be marching to moscow since early 2024
for comparison alexander the great army at its peak managed a 49:1 ratio and is considered the greatest army to this date
and ukraine managed 51:1
i mean....anyways

the real number is between 1:2 to 1:3 and all inbetween
naturally russia will lose more since its advancing but no way in hell its above that
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:26:18 PM No.63826901
>>63826873
Russia itself admitted to 600k by the end of last year with their most conservative estimates. You go by Putin and they've lost a million even before today.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:34:30 PM No.63826965
>>63826873
>then they have only lost 51k vs 1 million
bro your critical thinking skills? you're comparing kia to total casualties. you even saw the numbers didn't pass the sniff test and instead of double checking them you dug in deeper.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:44:17 PM No.63827017
>>63826901
>russia itself admitted

no literally never did this was ukraine again
https://kyivindependent.com/general-staff-russia-has-lost-600-470-troops-in-ukraine-since-feb-24-2022/

>>63826965
thats why i said at face value
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:49:00 PM No.63827048
>>63824512
Back then you were safe the moment you left the very front of the front lines. The only risk was blind artillery fire against assembly areas during mass offensives.

WW2 was weirder than you might think. 81mm mortars for example. Motorized supply. Even the web gear was premised around soldiers who fight on foot but get resupplied by unarmored vehicles three times a day a few hundred meters back.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:49:32 PM No.63827054
>>63827017
https://youtu.be/Ja6-espHVSE?t=2650

Do a bit of critical thinking. Russia says it's only able to recruit 1.5 million people legally. Yet, according to putler and various military brass; they've been getting between 30,000 and 50,000 soldiers signing up every month; yet the Russian military never seems to grow nor hit their target. Now why would that be Ivan?
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:53:56 PM No.63827082
>>63827017
>thats why i said at face value
jesus christ you're stupid. do you not know what a casualty is?
ukraine's "face value" numbers are 50k kia and 400k wia. that is that roughly 1:2 ratio against russia
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 9:57:07 PM No.63827094
>>63827082
Is Ukraine keeping a separate tracker for Norks? because that's another thing that the ukes are gonna count towards their kill count the Russians won't. Along with the Russians not counting wagnerites, lugandans, donbabweans and probably the various mercenaries from China, India or Africa they have.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 10:12:00 PM No.63827188
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>>63827082
>you dont know what casualty is?

type what the retards claims
type the word bitch
type it
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:02:04 AM No.63829646
>>63824650
Were the countless “voting” and “house bill” from sandy hook and 2016 on topic? Because that shit was inescapable for like 3 years
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:21:18 AM No.63829706
>>63827188
you expect people here to admit that they are wrong?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:57:49 AM No.63829812
>>63824403 (OP)
>It is said that drones cause 60% of Russian casualties
You're not getting the kiddos you sent into designated arty firing zones back. Maybe you wanted to maim and disfigure the mongols?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:29:34 PM No.63832264
>>63824601
if you dont care about it why are you in this thread
literally shift click and go post about whether you need 10mm to kill a bear or if 9mm is enough
the I DON'T CARE ABOUT THIS SO MUCH THAT I'M GOING TO CLICK ON THE THREAD AND POST TELLING EVERYONE I DON'T CARE cope wore out 2 years ago
we're watching the crucible of WAR develop and redefine how WEAPONS are used
if you're not paying attention you're going to lose your gunfight to the guy with his AI targeted self defense kamikaze droneswarm
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:31:40 PM No.63832270
>>63824512
Do Russians even have combat medics?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:34:03 PM No.63832284
>>63824601
Yeah because very little of note actually ended up happening in Iraq and Afghanistan compared to ukraine, those conflicts also weren't being basically live streamed
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:35:16 PM No.63832288
>>63824650
Anon what do you think causes casualties
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:45:31 PM No.63832317
>>63832270
They do, but they're not getting used because of zigger "punishments" and the fact they refuse to put themselves under fire to get their wounded.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:19:07 AM No.63835787
>>63824403 (OP)