Why is Israel the only Western country that has successfully adapted into the drone era of warfare? All the other ones are slagging behind. Russia/Ukraine were both forced into it through trial and error.

>>63824445 (OP)
>Jews pretend they did something first and steal credit
Many such cases.

>>63824445 (OP)
because they are and have always been a relatively small, low population country surrounded by hostile neighbours with large populations, they'll throw resources at any asymmetric form of warfare and anything that might give them an edge

what other western country is in that position?

>>63824445 (OP)
The US did like 20000 drone strikes starting in the early 2000s

>>63824445 (OP)
>Western

>>63824445 (OP)
israel was flying RC planes with live RF footage broadcast over the egyptians in 1972. israel literally invented military drones.

to make the predetor drone for the US they hired an experienced israeli

>>63824445 (OP)
Because Israel is evil

>>63824535
>The US did like 20000 drone strikes starting in the early 2000s
You're talking about Predator drone strikes and the likes, using commercial grade suicide drones are a very new thing.

>>63824576
guess where they got the idea for predetor from

>>63824535
using Predators and Reapers to toss Hellfires only works when your target doesn't have AA

>All the other ones are slagging behind

based on what metrics? im sure your reply will be insightful.

>>63824576
also military drones were always an offshoot of commercial grade tech

IDF drones in the 70s (the very first ones) were improvised RC planes from an RC club. predetor was born out of the tadiran mastiff which was based on rc planes.

the first FPV drones came in the 80s and very soon had militarized spinoffs

>>63824445 (OP)
>Russia/Ukraine were both forced into it through trial and error.
Of course, if stupid goyim does something, it doesn't count for some reason.

>>63824576
>using commercial grade suicide drones are a very new thing
ISIS did it first.

>>63824597
So either way the IDF are the pioneers in this thing, why are people surprised when they're utilizing it to the fullest?

>>63824569
>making warfare fun again
How is that evil?

>>63824445 (OP)
Did you know Israel is good and smart and defiantly not a genocidal apartheid state?

>>63824604
im nor surprised
a country that invested a lot into robotics for half a century is good at robotics is what you'd expect.

>>63824603
i think isis were droping grenades from regular mavic style camera drones

IDF were the first army to use commercial FPV drones IIRC in 2018 (at the time to counter arson attacks)

>>63824445 (OP)
Constant experience and unlimited financial support for R&D.

>>63824445 (OP)
>Ukraine pulls a drone masterclass out of their ass
>israel has to immediately go "W-WE HAD THE SAME IDEA FOR AGES"
Be contempt with the pager attack, you greedy fuckers.

>>63824609
No I had no idea.

>>63824559
>israel literally invented military drones
why do you lie, nazis had this way before

https://palmspringsairmuseum.org/argus-as-292-reconnaissance-drone-warbird-wednesday-episode-165/

Israel is the most impressive part of the west since WW2, Not sure if it says something about them or the state of the west

>>63824707
>the west
>Israel
What?

>>63824707
What has Israel done that's more impressive than the micro-processor or landing on the moon?

>>63824707
>Israel
>West
The kikes are working on that propaganda for 70 years now and it just doesnt seem to catch on.

>>63824733
They made people believe that the Nazis *were not* the single best thing that ever happened to the jews in the last 2,000 years.

>>63824684
THE IDEA WAS PROMISED TO US 3000 YEARS AGO UKRAINE STOLE IT FROM US PURE ANTYSEMITISM.

Because Sneedsrael is the only (not third world) country that wants to be at war.
Every other (not third world) nation knows that it is better for the domestic market, international relations and general stability to not be at war.
For Israel, a peaceful and prospering middle east is the biggest enemy they could get

>>63824733
Both had the jew engineers behind them tho. Still, Israel’s survival in its position is impressive, not just surviving, but building a diversified economy from scratch, including a weapons industry. They even have free healthcare, which is quite an achievement, especially considering how some other countries still struggle with it.

>>63824770
>They even have free healthcare, which is quite an achievement
The US is the only 1st world country without socialised healthcare, lots of tiny nations have no problem with it.

>>63824770
Nothing impressive in the entire planet pooling its money to a tiny desert shithole to defend itself againt a bunch of starving third world countries.

>>63824445 (OP)
Israel is Middle Eastern, not Western.

>>63824830
Nothing impressive in the fact that the whole world is pooling resources for someone they don't even like? Lmao, when was the last time anyone in the world did anything for you?

>>63824581
Not entirely true. Both Predator and Reaper drones have a service ceiling above the range of many low altitude air defense systems.

>>63824581
>airplanes don't work if the enemy has AA or fighters or blah blah
SEAD. fuck off with your elementary arguments. war is contested

>>63824969
Yup, nothing impressive in getting free money and bombing thirdies with it.
Its maybe impressive to the jews, but global antisemitism being on 1920's levels is even more impressive.

Carpet bombing Iran will only increase it more.

Good.
Good.

>>63824830
This is false and you know it. I won't bust you for using hyperbole, because even if every non-Western country was pouring money into the other Middle East states, it would be a fraction of what the West can bring to bear, since it's orders of magnitude richer than everywhere else. Thus, a unified Western front in support of Israel would effectively be the whole world.

The thing is, that's not what's happening. In case you only read the news that makes its way onto /k/, the entire Commonwealth just sanctioned several Israeli lawmakers. France is pushing for the recognition of a Palestinian state. The International Criminal Court, a very European institution, is still (for the moment) carrying out its investigation of Israeli war crimes. The notion that the West uniformly supports Israel is not, has not been, and likely never will be true. But you already knew that, didn't you?

>>63824445 (OP)
The majority of standing armies exist to siphon money from tax payers, the MIC is very slow to adapt to real threats.

>>63824770
I am personally impressed by the size and scale of Tel Aviv, considering it was all desert in 1918.

>>63824770
>Moon landing
>had the jew engineers behind them
Von Braun would like a word with you

>>63824707
>>63824770
I had a Jewish boss once (writing for a magazine that covered military technology) and he was a combination of things I haven't seen much elsewhere. I'm from the south where there's a lot of politeness and niceties, so it was a bit of a culture shock at first. His attitude was relentless with a lot of pressure and "cut the bullshit," and I seethed a lot but it was ultimately good for me. Israeli culture also emphasizes practical accomplishments. Israelis are constantly busy doing something, and always sort of on a background state of alert, because the rocket attacks are a normal part of their life. War is something that can happen there in 30 minutes. It also ranks among the highest nations in reported happiness.

>>63824766
We here in the U.S. can live like the Hobbits in LotR. We're protected by oceans and this big thing called the United States of America. We have lived under someone else's protection for so long that we forget that we are protected. The Israelis don't have that mentality. Iran is led by incompetent killer clowns who say all the time that their mission, a religious mission, is to destroy Israel (and the U.S. btw) and they've not only launched ballistic missiles at Israel but also armed up other groups to wage war with Israel. I'm just saying it's not a big surprise this is happening. The Israelis are going to say, if depending on fundamentally kind and decent people like you for their safety makes them respectable, and taking on Iran's nukes themselves makes them a rogue state, then hell yeah they're a rogue state. Sorry, but they're just going to do this thing.

>>63824445 (OP)
>Western

>>63824445 (OP)
masterrace.
sandnigger shitholes should not exist btw.

>>63824514
The US increasingly

>>63827598
No it isnt, but nice shilling

>the west when it comes time for the UN to condemn them for trying to defend themselves instead of just dying to the savages like good liberals
>not the west when it comes time to count their achievements
ok then, the west does not deserve israel anyway

>>63824445 (OP)
They're one of the least successful, given their AI has them wanted by the Hague.

>>63824445 (OP)
>Israel
>Western
??

>>63824604
>>63824707
>>63824770
>>63825219
>>63825299
Bravo Israel. Goys are lucky to get to live on the same planet as Jews.

>>63824445 (OP)
>Israel
>Western
Ah yes that's why they fire shots at western diplomats

>>63827731
The "west" at this point is only the US and Israel, With very few European countries.

>>63827731
the west doesn't want Israel

Israel has not nor will they ever be a western nation. They try to latch onto western nations so they keep getting gibs. “Middle East’s only democracy” and whatnot. Also that fucking “judeo-Christian” phrase.

>>63824445 (OP)
>warfare
this is terrorism

>>63824445 (OP)
Because they are constantly starting wars while other countries just want to live in peace.

>>63824770
Ignore the 90iq /pol/ crowd here, the short bus will arrive to pick them up shortly and take them back to X for their daily reruns of nick fuentes.

To get to an honest unbiased answer that isnt based on just hate for da jooz, a lot of it is just the fact that jews have a ultra high trust society and insane in group cohesion. Also the fact they constantly get genocided, persecuted, hunted, etc for the past 3000 years has led to genetic and social pressures which forces the jews to watch out for each other or else they die. The result of that is you get a people who trust rather than distrust each other (in contrast to arabs and all other nonwhites outside asians). high trust societies and having the ability to trust your neighbor is also prevelant in white christian societies and basically the main metric of if a state/society will be successful. Its why Israel can have such an effective military compared to their neighbors because the civilian government trusts the military not to coup them while arab leaders intentionally weaken their armies to avoid a coup.

>>63828930
>high trust society
>huge surveillance state
>litigious people

HIS NAME IS CATCH THE RAINBOW ON KIWIFARMS!

>>63828501
get fucked

>>63828930
>Also the fact they constantly get genocided, persecuted, hunted, etc for the past 3000 years has led to genetic and social pressures which forces the jews to watch out for each other or else they die.
Yeah everyone hates them for no reason at all

>>63824559
>literally
Back to plebbit

>"invented military drones"
Wrong. United States (mostly contracted with pioneering firm Ryan Aeronautical during this era) used them extensively throughout the 1960s in southeast Asia.
and one of the 1973 war drones used by Israel was the Model 124I, a special "export" version of the USAF's Model 147SC/SD (AQM-34L/M) Lightning Bug