Desperate times call for Desperate measures

>>63827671 (OP)

>Flak is back
Uhhh based?

>>63827671 (OP)
Cool archival footage of Baghdad '91, OP.

>>63827671 (OP)
What a retard. It's clearly against drones. No point in wasting $1 million Iron Dome missiles on a $20k drone.

>>63827805
That's the skies over Tehran kek. American jets intercept all the iranian drones before they can reach Israel

>>63827805
Lmao, this guy believes they have a choice besides the flak anymore.

>>63827832
They have aks they can fire upwards!

>Iran’s air defenses are repeatedly firing in Tehran’s Pastour neighborhood, where Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei and President Masoud Pezeshkian live, residents tell The New York Times.

>>63827961
Fuck yes. Decapitation strikes are the best!

>>63827971
Israel said they were only hitting military targets and not political targets, so the flak guns are just for show so the Iranian government doesn't embarrass itself.

>>63828046
Though by showing that they've resorted to flak and apparently have no other AD active & working, in the capital no less, is an embarrassment itself.

>>63827971
everyone outside Iran wants the people to rise up and do the decapitation, thereby maintaining the legitimacy of any successor government. in theory.

>>63828066
It's not about embarrassment towards a competent group, it's the loss of honor through perceived inactivity. Which means the fireworks are targeted at other arabs.

>American jets could be here, he thought...

>>63828084
Ok, kill absolutely everyone in leadership *except* the elderly Khamenei. Then let the mob Gaddafi him. Like letting the Kuwatis "take" Kuwait City.

>>63827671 (OP)
Wish we could turn back time
to the good old days
When Baghdad flak filled quiet nights
but now we're stressed out

>>63827671 (OP)
are you sure this is real?
from earlier footage iranian flak self-destructs but the rounds have no tracers

>>63827961
If they get killed will Iran nook?

>>63828220
Iran doesn't have nook.

Flak is routinely used in Ukraine, even in Kyiv, with great success, so what's the issue here?

>all modern air defense destroyed within a day
>air force complete wiped out
>command structure fucked
>drones flying overhead freely

just fuck my shit up

>>63827671 (OP)
That must have been at least 30 hits. Does Israel even have any F-35s left anymore?

>>63828224
With no nooks they're pretty much fucked then, should have built them instead of twiddling their thumbs

If Norks can build one so can they

>>63828230
Have we gotten Iran's version of Baghdad Bob yet?

>>63828226
It's the fact that it seems to be their only AD, there's been no videos of any SAMs working the whole day. (Except 1 Tor, maybe)

>>63827971
>Decapitation strikes are the best!
Agreed, but Khamenei is probably not in the air, they should aim lower.

>>63828226
flak is use as part of a network of sensors and effectors. they don't just blast the sky and hope shit sticks.

>>63828226
Because it's quite effective for drones

>>63827671 (OP)
meanwhile, Israeli missile defense

>>63827671 (OP)
We use the same agains ziggers Shaheed drones.

>>63827671 (OP)
Honestly I wouldn't be overly shocked if AAA does more for the Iranians than SAMs. This primitive shit is often underestimated while not having the same EW weaknesses as the modern stuff.

I mean, the heaviest blow the Iraqis were able to inflict during March – May 2003 was with AAA at Karbala,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_attack_on_Karbala

Iran's now claiming it downed two Israeli jets. Guess we'll just have to see,
https://news.sky.com/story/iran-claims-it-has-shot-down-four-israeli-jets-as-it-fires-missiles-in-response-to-fridays-attacks-13383379

inb4 "cope"; I like AAA.

>>63828338
Honestly the Iron Dome seems pretty ghoulish and callous.
It stops ballistic missiles from hitting their intended military targets at the cost of causing debris to reign from the sky on civilians.

>>63827814
Not even American jets. The US Navy is using AEGIS destroyers and SM3 missiles to intercept the Iranian ballistic missiles and large drones.

>shaheed vs apache

what's the range on these? no way they're being launched from inside iran, right?

>>63828405
If the warhead is 50 kg, then the range is 1500 km.
As far as I remember.
Ziggers launch 90 kg warheads at us, sacrificing fuel for range.

>>63827671 (OP)
I'm pro AAA use for shitty aliexpress drones. Frankly shit like Patriots, and even David's Sling, are overkill. Hell put a dude in a Super Tucano and let him just wing slap the things into a tree.

>>63828381
I too like flak guns. I also think Iran can say whatever the fuck it wants, it appears they finally pissed Israel off enough they're going to kick their teeth in and not stop until they won't be a threat for at least a generation if not longer. If they actually did get a couple jets AAA now becomes a priority target and gets blown up beyond its engagement range.
>>63828395
As opposed to what, ballistic missiles slamming into civilian centers because they have a CEP measured in km? Israel has shelters everywhere and an effective and detailed civil defense warning system in place.
>>63828401
Yet. Not American jets yet. The Don will get the US directly involved in this, mark my words.

>>63828435
We need to bring back piston engine fighters with nose radars and thermal gunsights. Imagine the kino of P-38s and F8Fs slapping drones out of the sky.

>>63828440
You're cheering on the ziggers of the Middle East, you know.

>>63828405
M320's not the best choice for this job. Very slow shells- 800 m/s against a 20mm Vulcan's 1020 m/s. You can see the gunner struggle to lead the Shahed

>>63828444
This guy gets it

>>63828381
Karbala I feel is a battle that's so overblown as far as it's implications, it was a matter of nearly every element of the operation being so poorly handled that the losses were amazingly low.
>intel is awful
>SEAD and attack not synced
>Iraqi's are given a heads up of your approach
>helicopters meander into your killzone oblivious
>still only shoot down one

>>63828231
you can trust the dprk will only use nukes defensively
you cannot trust this about iran

>>63828500
Sure thing, Bibi.

>>63828500
And more importantly Beat Korea is just harmless fun (as long as you don't live there.) Iran does random shit like blow up night clubs in places like Argentina for...reasons? Big Kim just wants to be left the fuck alone with his coke, women, and basketball game on tv.

>>63828454
man that shockwave is sick, the exo interceptions are fucking cool too.

>>63828454
Is this from Iran or Israel?

>>63828514
Uhh... anon...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Korean_Air_Lines_YS-11_hijacking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangoon_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimpo_International_Airport_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_858
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_Japanese_citizens

>>63827671 (OP)
Replace all air defenses with C-RAMs (or similar).
>b-but they're expensive!
>b-b-but they don't work on missiles!
>b-b-b-but their maximum range i-
Don't care nigga, that shit looks hella cool at night.

>>63828532
Well fair enough but they mostly stopped that shit after they ran out of food.

>>63828510
>country that says 'we want nukes to protect ourselves from the imperialists'
vs
>country that openly says they intend to nuke israel and america the first moment they can
what flavor of retardation causes people not to just take people at their word if they say they want to kill you?

>>63828536
>not quad linking C-rams and installing 10,000 round ammo bunkers with feed mechanisms
It's like you're not even trying.

>>63828524
Tel Aviv, latest barrage. It was the only good hit it seems, hit a military installation.

>>63828532
No a single one of those was under Un's reign, he just wants to chill, make bank and be the world's coolest dad.

>>63828564
what military installation?

>>63828654
>Video of a direct hit to an Israeli military base near Azrieli Towers in Tel Aviv City center

https://x.com/LocalFocus1/status/1933660028923187681

>>63828395
intercept debris hitting the unfortunate random is still a lot more preferable than missiles with live warheads hitting their intended targets

>>63828560
>oy vey they are going to nuke us goy
they would be doing the world a favour

>>63828671
how is this proof?

>>63828685
>>63828395
>>63828440
I have long thought that if Hamas were smart they would load at least 1/3rd of their rockets with Lazydogs, that way Israel has to risk dispersing thousands of them over population centers. Just the random impacts alone would be far better than anything their current rockets accomplish.

>>63828726
Nta but that's what the reporting is. Even if it did hit knowing the Israeli's the walls were probably 10 foot thick reinforced concrete anyway.

>>63828743
ngl i don't see military bases here. unless they're reffering to the command hq and such. or maybe this pic is old

>>63828770
>command hq and such
It's this. Israel's military HQ is right in the middle of that pic.

>>63828770
>unless they're reffering to the command hq and such
They are. Unironically. That's why I'm saying the walls were probably 10 feet thick.

>A military communication and radar site near Qods, to the west of the Iranian capital of Tehran, was targeted within the last hour by the Israeli Air Force.

Video included.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1933694303374639561

>>63828792
This is all well and good but when do we get B-2 collapsing Isfahar with bunker busters?

>>63828776
sure but that missile clearly didn't hit the HQ

>>63828792
Well that's not so good if you're Iran.

>>63828792
oh wow. multiple impacts. it was already smoking when they hit it again

>>63828798
3-5 days. Once round the clock bombing begins then the heavy ordnance will show up.

>>63828792
>>63828811
Does it really matter all that much anymore? What does radar help if all your jets and air defense have already gotten got? Even for communication, who are you going to communicate to? It's the typical dune coon military where it's all top down micromanagement and all the head niggas in charge are already dead.

>>63828813
target: it's an early warning radar. i

>>63828813
Kind of looks like a qt 3.14 vulcano.

>>63828823
Not really no, and there's nothing they could have done to prevent it, but it just means they're a little bit closer to round the clock bombings of anything remotely relevant.

>>63828800
>>63828770
Vid related, it's the video claiming hits on the base. The video shows smoke coming from somewhere in the complex. Note the distinctive round and triangle buildings in the background (across the highway when the cameraman turns to it) and the cubic building with a grid pattern in the right side of the the foreground.

>>63828881
so it's actually infront of the cubicish building. they missed the hq. or at least it's not a direct hit depending on what you define as hit

Notices going out of missile launches from Iran, time to tune in to the Tel Aviv skyline again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iokwjw6WiXg

>>63828910
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1933700882392363050

>Reports of additional missile launches now from Iran.

>>63828905
The base is a multi-building complex, but yes, it definitely missed the big cubic building and it's unclear from that video if it hit anything more than grass or if it was even an intact warhead.

>>63828910
funny that the same impact from tel aviv is being posted over and over from different angles and shots

>>63828046
Didn't they blow up Khameni's advisor?

>>63828914
one exoatmospheric intercept. maybe the rest of the missiles are to arrive soon

Live footage from the front

>>63828942
military advisors

>>63828950
>>63828914
STEVE HAS FINISHED EATING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKtZbdLRJk8

>>63828950
Sirens already sounded in northern israel, maybe Tel Aviv doesn't get a taste this time. Shame.

>>63828957
everything is going to shit because of the guy at the bottom right corner

>>63828910
>>63828914
This is so stupid. All they're going to do is shoot what remains of their wad and piss Trump off even further. Like what are they going to do if he decides to start bombing them? Run away to Russia? Without something to threaten Israel and US bases in the region there is nothing keeping them alive or in power.

this is a very limited target area compared to the last, whats even there?
maybe these are missiles from further away in iran and they can only reach this far?

>>63828969
even the attacks on tel aviv are symbolic. they don't achieve anything in the way of military outcome

>>63828950
that's it? holy. iran is really pathetic. like hezbollah, it seems their actions are going to be reduced to mostly symbolic attacks. while israel deals significant blows to them.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1933704489942352199

>The IDF Homefront Command states that civilians can now leave their shelters.

Laaame, didn't even provide any kino except for that exo shot.

>>63827745
Ahh, memories.

>>63828973
they never had the ability to seriously threaten anyone apart from potential mass casualties, but nothing actually crippling. they exist entirely due to politics. just going in and shutting them up directly is highly anti-liberal values, and muslim brotherhood funds a lot of things

i pray it was filled with iranian soldiers

i would like to apologize to israel

i assumed "what if we just fucking killed them" would have consequences

my bad

>>63828990
Duh. Are you fucking retarded? How many missile attacks on Israel has this been? They've always been a nothingburger because dune coons are incompetent.

I don't know why everyone pretends it's some big deal every time Israel attacks Iran, and Iran throws a fit. It keeps happening, and yet for all the happening, nothing happens.

>>63829036
Someone never watched the first Godfather film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iokwjw6WiXg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iokwjw6WiXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iokwjw6WiXg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iokwjw6WiXg

SIRENS!!!!

Missiles inbound, lookner has multiple live feeds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKtZbdLRJk8

These attacks seem to keep getting smaller and smaller, but I suppose that's to be expected. Whole attack again.

>https://files.catbox.moe/kn12yi.mp4

>>63828395
>intended military targets
You don't know the first thing about the rockets.

>>63828395
Rockets fired by HAMAS and Iran are specifically (as in, designed intentionally) be completely arbitrary and random. That's the point. You're not trying to destroy military targets or infrastructure, but to cause civilian deaths and financial damage with buildings being hit. Again, if Iran actually cared, was going to raise the flag and everybody will know everything then they would do a mass strike on military only targets, command and control centres, air bases, air defences and then launch a ground invasion along with their air force. But they won't because they know they will get stomped unless every single other Muslim state that hates Israel joins in and even then I am sure Israel will put up a good account of itself before the US gets involved to protect itself.

>>63829091
>These attacks seem to keep getting smaller and smaller
Of course they are. Iran is broke as fuck. There's no way they've been able to stockpile missiles sufficient for a prolonged conflict. They literally would have been better off doing nothing and just crying to the UN.

>>63829118
Oh snap I forgot about the flags. Did they do one this time? The chartreuse flag of consternation maybe?

>>63829139
They raised the Quantum Flag. It is raised at all times, but also not, fluctuating between colours.

>>63829139
The chartreuse flag of artisanal missile production, just like the liqueur

>>63828700

Remind me when was the last time Jews murdered white people for ideological reasons, Ahmed?

>>63828395
The odds of a random piece of shit landing on someone walking around on the street in the middle of an air raid are so astronomically low that it has happened exactly once.

>>63829228
>an Iranian ballistic missile piece
>In this neighborhood
>at this time of night
>crushing one Palestinian
>caught on camera
>May I see it?
Yes.

I now understand kikes when they do proxy wars.
It's nice watching your enemies die while not having to do shit or suffer any consequences.

>>63829139
The argent flag of aggrievement.

>>63829241
>yes
>*falling pipe.mp3*

>>63829139
The khaki flag of kneeling.

>>63829200
James Miller and Rachel Corrie in 2003.

>>63828395
>Uh, actually we don't want air defense anyway, it's immoral.

>>63828561
It's cooler to have them as single mounts because then you get tracers coming from more directions.

>>63828510
>1015 KB
He is right tho. The Iranians would absolutely try to smuggle a nuke into Gaza so that the Palestinians could bring it to Tel Aviv and blow it up. Remember that the Iranian branch of Shia Islam is a doomsday cult.

>>63829118
>Rockets fired by HAMAS and Iran are specifically (as in, designed intentionally) be completely arbitrary and random.
It'd only be "intentional" if they were capable of building rockets with a decent CEP (spoiler: they aren't).

>>63828381
They can be effective, when guided by radar or other electronic assistance. If they are fired using the MK1 eyeball though they are not

>>63829480
>go into a warfare zone
>noooo how could this happen!?

>>63829480
>protest in front of a giant bulldozer with a blade taller than you that's in front of an even taller engine block in front of a cab with tiny ass blast-resistant windows that are half obscured by slat armor
>get run over
Pro tip: if the driver can't even see the top of your head, then a high visibility vest definitely isn't going to protect you

>>63829844

>>63829844
>white women are invincible

>>63827671 (OP)
What are they shooting at?

>>63827671 (OP)
Who cares about this bullshit war Netanyahu obviously is only interested in his political survival, he doesn't even give a shit about the Israeli hostages

>>63829480
So the current score is 2 for Israel and at least a few hundred thousand for Muslims if we include all of the attacks by all branches and the fratricide that keeps them from achieving anything of note.

>>63829200
Today.

>>63828970
It's kind of amazing how badly the Oct 7th attack backfired for all of them. I'm struggling of thinking how this could have possibly gone worse for them.

>>63830526
Yeah, crazy, right?
Its almost as if someone let it happen to have political ammo to stay in power and do some Imperialism.

>>63828233
The shills have been insisting everything is fine when the post directly above them shows the complete opposite, so we kind of have a Bob Gestalt at the moment.

>Rolling for the bot farms to be blown up next.

>>63829139
The none meme answer is that they have raised the Red Flag of Revenge yesterday.
Khamenei also said that the response would be unlimited and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

>>63830582
But what about the ring of total annihilation? And the secret hand shake of complete utterly destruction?

dont they both love god. use nukes alrdy pussies u wont

>>63828365
> Israel attacks Iran
> The US enters the war on Israel's side (muh 6 gorillion)
> Iranian war capacity is now geared towards self-defense
> Chinks supply all sides with drones.
> Chink telemetry on chips makes the CCP learn drone and counter-drone doctrine when they enter WW3 themselves
> If not - Shenzen would elevate itself to the equivalent of a small oil princedom.
> Z-ombies lose advanced drone capabilities and are back to cope cages

>>63830530
Even disregarding that, it's amazing that they sat down and went:

>We are surrounded by the enemy
>We are outnumbered by the enemy
>We are outgunned by the enemy
>All of our supply routes are controlled by the enemy
>Our only confirmed allies can not directly support us
>All of our potential allies are seeking warmer relations with our enemy and our previous actions have earned bad blood with most of them
>Outside support and sympathy is currently directed at a large scale conflict within their heartlands, so little care or attention will be given to us

And then they thought they'd have a go anyway.

It such a fucking unbelievably retarded move that one could almost say that Hamas wanted this to happen to bolster support for themselves whilst also culling the population to more manageable levels. They just failed to do a better job at surviving than the rest of the Gazans.

>>63827841
This only works with a shoulder thing that goes up attachment.

>>63829036
It helps when you take out a big chunk of their long-range arsenal in the opening move.

cant even follow the ten commandments. both heretics. God will leave them both in purgatory

>>63830628
Well, when planning festivals, the cost of the plot is to be considered.

>>63828435
>put a dude in a Super Tucano and let him just wing slap the things into a tree.
Now that's gotta be a fun job.

>>63828770
>>63828776
>military HQ is right in the middle
Is that why all the helipads?

>>63828825
>literal goat pen tier fencing

>>63828958
>no tie on
That's just crappy reporting.

>>63829228
>that it has happened exactly once.
>that I know of

>>63830628
arguably, this is more important long term. The trend is much worse when you look just at 18-49 year olds. This is part of why bibi is going all out, he thinks they won't have a better chance (on top of his own political survival)

>>63829854
Marvin would be proud. He was a trendsetter.

>>63830582
>and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I will wait for the tearing of clothes and pulling of hair to get excited.

>>63830695
It's wrong to have sympathy with either side, given that they're both bad.

>>63830711
I think it's funnier that only the western people feel sympathy for the Palestinians. A bunch of pro-palestine people showed up in Egypt and are getting whipped for their activism.

>>63828813
>>63828827
>Kind of looks like a qt 3.14 vulcano
I wonder if the local Zoroastrians appreciate the symbolism?

>>63830598
Can somebody explain the ring meme?

>>63827971
Decapitate kikes and leave their heads on an open copy of the talmud

>>63828395
Perfect jew victim strategy as usual.

>>63828926
also everything of value is deep underground there
widely known israeli "secret"

>>63830867
>turdie melty

>>63828700
Spon on fuck the kikes they are the common enemy of mankind they hide behind beauraucracy and tech because real humans can crush them.

>>63830862
Muslims collect the assholes of children they rape, but these rot fairly quickly so they started wearing rings as a way to display their virility. The more rings, the more children.

>>63828825
it's fucked

>>63828977
Dead jews = good news. Fuck these fucking pedophile gangsters. Shoot your draft officer when they send you die for jews.

>>63830896
>goes silent for almost 8 hours
>immediately starts spamming
I get this is all your thirdie brain has, but it looks like israel doesnt need the us to kick irans teeth in, because they just did.

>>63829844
akchually back then they didn't have slat armor
also you have to be incredibly stupid to get run over by something with a top speed of 6kph
>>63830896
>FB_IMG
fitting

It's kind of funny how ineffective Iran's defenses are. Trump pretty much told them Israel was going to bomb them a few days ago, and even with a warning like that, they still couldn't do shit.

>>63828220
Who’d give the order? That’s why decapitating strikes are so effective on paramilitary and dictatorship type organisations, they inherently centralise power

>>63830678
Don't dis steve, the guy gets more viewers from his living room than CNN at times.

>>63830713
Egyptians themselves are generally sympathetic but their government is zogged

>>63830701
being shia, the bar is much higher, it calls for self-flagellation

>>63830916
one rumor is that the iranians really thought that scheduling the next round of talks (in oman) prevented an israeli strike.

>>63827671 (OP)

>>63835984
stop bumping yesterday news kike