Explain to me how this is fucking possible. Why is Iran having a hard time keeping its skies clear, at least from drones. Or Is their AAA having a hard time taking out MALE drones?

>>63830662 (OP)
>Explain to me how this is fucking possible.
Because Iran is a dirt poor, third world, shithole with no money, no modern military capability, and no competence. Hope that helps.

>>63830662 (OP)
why di tird world people think that shitholes like Iran or Russa are actually rivals to westren military methods and technologies and econonomies wehen we know cruel totalitarian dicatorships and police states without freedom of expression and no free press breed corruption ,incompetence and graft. The fact that this one is headed by a fundementalist apocalypse cult does not change that.

>>63830725
>Because Iran is a dirt poor, third world, shithole with no money
They have more of everything than BestKorea but even the Norks would manage to rustle up some 4x4 mounted MANPADs to shoot down a UAV.

>>63830755
The only reaspn Best Korea exists is because they have thousands of arty tubed sighted in on Seoul and nuclear weapons. Iran does not have those luxuries. In fact their opponent is the one with the nukes which makes them even more retarded.

>>63830662 (OP)
Israel is flying them out from desert bases in Iraq. They can slip in and out quite easily.

>>63830662 (OP)
>top of the line western equipment vs russhit and knockoffs of russhit and nork shit

gee i wonder who'll win

>>63830766
If Israel nuked Iran hundreds of thousands of Israels most loyal supporters would die

>>63830742
Even Russia could at least shoot down recon drones flying over Moscow and critical strategic sites. Where’s Iran’s early warning and air patrol at least? Something has seriously broken down OR Iran is even more comically inept then once believed and Russia has given us a false image of what true 3rd world helplessness looks like.

>>63830777
why are the iraqis allowing this?

>>63830662 (OP)
>2005 thermals
ugh

>>63830662 (OP)
>They crowd their missile launchers into downtown urban areas.
Holy shit, weren't they supposed to be the "real power." They are falling back on the same shitty human shield tactics. It should be obvious that if you're strategy relies heavily on your enemies' mercy and sticking to strict principles then it's retarded.

It's just another day where the curse of islam is visible to all

>>63830800
Bold of you to assume they have a choice. The Iraqi government is the 3rd most powerful group in Iraq after the US and the Kurds.

>>63830800
>why are the iraqis allowing this?
You'd have to specify which Iraqis are allowing it before we could answer why they're allowing it.
Middle Eastern politics off many reasons to fuck over a neighbour.

>>63830662 (OP)
They're drones, they're hard to keep out of your territory. That's why you've been seeing news about drones buzzing US military bases in the states for the past four months.

>>63830800
The Iraqis have no say. Just because Iranian money has bought of the Iraqi government doesn’t mean the Iraqi government has any ability to tell the U.S. "no".

>>63830794
Russia was the king and queen of corrupt failed state ideological dictatorships though, stalin was the inspiationn for derranged mass murderibg paranoics everywhere

"In 1967, Joseph Stalin's daughter braved her way over the Iron Curtain, secret memoir in tow, and landed in America as the Cold War's most famous defector. At 40 years old, Svetlana had left everything behind for a new life in the West."

This is Stalins all American granddaughter

Svetlana Alliluyeva, Stalin’s only daughter, defected from the Soviet Union in 1966 and married Evans’ future father, architect William Wesley Peters.

“Stalin for me was one of the three people who won the Second World War — Churchill, Roosevelt and him,” she told the Express of the UK. “Then my mother asked me to listen to her. This is when I found out about his crimes.”

>>63830804
lol no. the idf is extremely secretive. they lower the quality and resolution before publication. it's funny because you can simply go online and look at what's (publicly) available out there for militaries

>>63830794
Anon, something has broken down. Their entire air force and AD network got clapped and a very large number of their senior leadership, like 200+, are dead. They got hit with a huge strike to their assets that was absolutely crippling and a successful decapitation strike. They are as fucked as Hezbollah was.

>>63830837
sure
LMAO
Same script as russian thermals...

>>63830662 (OP)
>Why is Iran having a hard time keeping its skies clear, at least from drones
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that a significant amount of Iran's military leadership are actually Israeli double agents.

>>63830847
>t.

consider this everyone over 45 in Iran wishes the shah would come back

>>63830853
Sigh. Mossad isn't some all powerful boogeyman. There's like a few hundred people in Mossad and they're mostly busy dealing with terrorists. There's no way we can infiltrate all major governments.

>>63830662 (OP)

>>63830800
Anon Iraq spent 25 years straight being absolutely shitstomped by the Americans, who still have a military presence in their country. Do you really think they have any ability to tell the Americans "no?" The US probably didn't even bother asking and, if they did, the fuck is Iraq going to do about it when the US does it anyway?

>>63830835
Yeah, she looks like a 2nd gen Russian.
It takes a while to breed civilisation into them.

>>63830865
Oh, well that's a relie-

>we

...wait a minute....

>>63830840
>a very large number of their senior leadership, like 200+, are dead
Source?
I only heard about five or so.

>>63830847
my brother in christ, they've released multiple videos of drones and cruise missiles getting intercepted using F35s and the footage on quality on those looks like shit. do you think the EOTS footage looks like grainy footage?

>>63830835
would
and it would be nasty

>>63830938
Is this accurate? I could have sworn the head of the army got got on the first day.

>>63830892
>drone's thermal camera is so incredible we had to censor it!
meanwhile an IDF helicopter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Jt_Vy4Mj0 (OSD blurred)

>>63830800
Mossad runs Erbil Anon. Runs every part of it and as a for-profit operation too.

>>63830962
Tbf the Kurds would allow anyone to do anything on their territory if it fucked over Iran or Turkey. And that's why Kurds are based.

>>63830755
>>63830766
Iran has a tiny fraction of everything the DPRK has especially AAA. Just low level 14.5mm alone the Norks have something like 1000 batteries and they are are much, much more concentrated and have greatly superior fire control. Iran just sucks.

>>63830938
oh yeah qaani was not killed

>>63831007
>Iran just sucks
Well yeah, say what you will about Best Korea but they aren't brown. Iran was at a disadvantage from the start.

>>63830955
yeah that still looks like dogshit

IAF are saying they have full air superiority over Tehran now.
Can just bomb the shit out of everything all day and night.
Russian air defence cuckolds can only dream

>>63831061
So can we confidently assess that Russia would lose to Israel at this point? I feel like we can.

>>63830865
>we

>>63831072
russia would get decimated by israel. i am assuming you're imagining a scenario where russia invades. and

>>63830662 (OP)
iran IS keeping the skies clear, other than IAF there is no aviation in the air this way friendly fire can be prevented

>>63831085
It's genius. Why haven't we thought of this?

>>63831089
its a fairly standard procedure done in wars

i heckin love precision strikes

>>63831072
if you ever thought russia was as strong as israel you havent been paying attention

>>63831102
I didn't, but I always enjoy finding new tiny countries that Russia can lose a war too.

>>63830755
Best Korea is poorer but has spent like 50% of their fucking GDP on the military since the 50's so they have a Soviet amount of stockpiled bullshit, if their airspace was threatened it would look the skies above Berlin in 1945.
But I think maybe the more important diference is that in Best Korea the soldiers on that AA would be ideologically indoctrinated enough that it wouldn't occur to them they're manning a AA platform while a fun sized American military is conducting a SEAD mission. We saw norks in Ukraine and they proved they will follow orders to their deaths. In Iran the soldiers are pretending to their superiors that the UAV doesn't exist and checking under their bedsheets for Mossad agents. >>63831027 Racistanon is basically correct.

>>63831107
israel isnt tiny it's huge i drove from eilat to the hermon one time its gigantic

>>63830662 (OP)
Because Iran spent all the money on their police apparatus to prevent revolts.

>>63830800
Iran-Iraq war? Iraquis fucking hate Khamenei and his funding of islamist militias

>>63831115
Okay Liechtensteinanon, whatever you say.

>>63831027
>>63831007
The pathetic thing is Iran has plenty of things that could swat those drones with ease if they had just applied themselves.

They possess significant numbers of KS-19s and Chinese copies, the Chinese ones (and older ones if they used PRC/DPRK upgrades) have thermals, radar, proximity fuses and electro optical FCS that should be blasting those drones to bit. Iran threw away the FCS mounted them on trucks and used them as light artillery.

Iran made the ZU-23-8, the octo cannon. Electrically driven, networked radar and electro optical controlled with computerized FCS for the express purpose of defending sensitive sites from drones and cruise missiles. Instead of producing those they decided to waste money on fake fighters.

They can turn out Yono class midget subs in vast numbers, flooding the gulf with them. Instead they made a fake carrier.

They are stupid, all procurement goes through the IRRG instead of the actual military. It is no different than if Germany had delegated all equipment decisions to the Gestapo.

Iran has spent a lot of time and money prioritizing their proxy groups to do their fighting and let their actual military wither on the vine. Those proxy groups have been castrated over the last couple of years, so now you get Israel casual flying over their capital. Oops.

>>63831115
It's very tiny in the sense that they have no depth to retreat to or hide their strategically important shit in.

>Israel achieved air superiority in regions of Iran in a day
>Russia still can't almost four years later 50 miles from their national borders

>>63831179
the purpose of operation am kelavi is destruction of iranian nuclear and balistic missile capabilities. the purpose of the russian war is trench warfare,attrition.

both have achieved their goals

>>63831195
i thought the purpose of the special manlet's operation was demilitrization, denazification, liberating the donbas

>>63831216
stated goals vs revealed goals

>>63830662 (OP)
The Iranian people HATE the Iranian govt.
Iran is not a nation of 90million people. ITs a nation of (1million?) holding the rest at gunpoint.

>>63831140
>It is no different than if Germany had delegated all equipment decisions to the Gestapo.
The one difference is that if Germany did that it would be have been conquered faster and almost certainly conquered by the Soviets even if they hadn't started WW2, and Hitler would have had to shoot himself sooner.
The Iranian government's only actual existential enemy is its own 2 militaries and its people. They lob missiles at Jews who don't even border them as basically just a distraction to keep their actual enemy busy. The supreme leader dies in his bed if and only if the 2 militaries carefully balanced against each other don't get him first, and if they don't provoke something like an Isreali first nuclear strike or American invasion. Why not let those idiots do vanity procurement if it makes them happy?
Authoritarian shitholes operate on naked self interest of the ruling class, that's why Isreal has such a boner for assassinating leadership. "But why aren't they trying to actually win" is why you make more than Iran's GDP per capita in a month.
>>63831222
this

>>63831195
>both have achieved their goals
No. The SMO was never supposed to be a slow war of attrition. Russian strategy only shifted to that following the Izyum rout and the Fall of Kherson. The Russian effort in Ukraine didn't even have an overall commander until April 2022 since the assumption was the campaign would be so swift it won't need a centralized command.

>>63831195
>the purpose of the russian war is trench warfare,attrition
Is this the official narrative?

>>63831195
>the purpose of the russian war is trench warfare,attrition.

there's no way they won't lose any aicraft right? right? this seems risky as fuck

>>63831296
>there's no way they won't lose any aicraft right?
Wait, you think Iran has any air defense left?

>>63831195
>lets just recreate the losing of ww1
>thatll own the ukes/jews/etc
Are thirdies really this fucking stupid?

>>63831300
like surely they have something. maybe they might get lucky hits (allah willing) from AAA or hidden TORS.

>>63831300
They have flak i guess lol

>>63831296
Well, they've been doing bombing runs almost unopposed over western Iran for 48 hours now with no reported loses. They literally have surveillance drones just loitering lmao. War is inherently risky, but they're managing it well so far.

>>63831305
>>63831309
but then to be fair i've seen footage from Lebanon in the late '80s. israelis jets used to fly low and there would be multiple attempts to target them with FLAK. they had no success. this was before the proliferation of PGMs which allowed planes to fly higher and toss up glide bombs

>>63831305
>like surely they have something.
They don't. They have AAA but the radars have been gone for awhile now and AAA doesn't do you any good when your opponent is flying at 30,000 feet.

>>63831335
explain yemen

>>63831335
>AAA doesn't do you any good when your opponent is flying at 30,000 feet.
?

>>63831296
>>63831309
Remember Libya in 2011?
They also failed to score even a single hit.

>>63831321
They recently did a low slow flyover performance at Nasrallah's funeral which surprised me because there's always MANPADS and shit and at least a couple arabs bold enough to use them no matter how much you bomb them and that was even a predictable occasion to be prepared for.
Apparently sometimes you just got to whip it out and wave it, what else can you do.

>>63831376
did bibi purge iaf that far already that no one would refuse such a retarded sortie?

>>63831363
>arabs
>>63831368
Yeah good luck hitting a lone F-35 at night with a dozen unguided barrels. Have you forgotten every single war since 1990?

>>63831386
CNN reports that elements of the ruling coalition asked for a volunteer to do a VTOL landing in front of the coffin, take the nearest woman's hijab off and rub his nuts in her face and Bibi was the moderating force actually
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVZhpABcacM

>>63831368
>16k shells per bomber hit

>>63831394
>whataboutism
Don't get mad. You're the one who made the demonstrably wrong assertion

>>63831376
the coldwar era MANPADS will just get defeated by countermeasures including drcim

>>63831409
shells are cheaper than bomber

>>63831394
>>arabs
??
US air forces are not arab-tier
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-has-lost-7-multi-million-dollar-drones-in-yemen-area-since-march-official/

>>63831411
How many stealth aircraft has AAA managed to down since the introduction of the F-117?

>>63831424
Irrelevant

>>63831421
Nigger do you think a fucking drone is the same as an F-35? Iran isn't being hit with fucking hellfires from an ancient Predator they're getting 1 and 2000 lb JDAMs dropped on them from 4th and 5th gen fighters.

>>63831394
Anon there are modern (or modernized) 'guided' high altitude AAA guns that can reach nearly 50,000 feet. As mentioned already in this thread Iran decided to reject the modern FCS for them and use them as field artillery.

>>63831424
None, that doesn't mean a competent nation couldn't use them against drones.

Iran is not a competent nation.

>>63831195
>the purpose of the russian war is trench warfare,attrition.
hahahahahaha
>GUYS IT WAS OUR PLAN TO TURN THIS INTO THE BIGGEST MILITARY DISASTER IN THE LAST 100 YEARS

Iranian 3D VHF radar goes up in smoke. it's supposed to detect low-RCS targets

>>63831449
>supposed to
Let's be honest, it never could in the first place. Good pic though.

>>63831415
A B-17 cost around $238k.
A single 88mm shell cost 80RM. $1 was around 2.5RM in 1938. Which is the last value available until 1949. That means it cost Germany $512k to down a single B-17.
Basically it cost Germany the price of two brand new B-17s to down a single one.

>>63831466
>>63831415
...that's not the point of war you nerds

>>63831421
>Muh drones
The drones are older than a good portion of the people on this board. No shit a 20 year old, propeller driven MALE drone flying into an area with air defense is getting shot down. That's the whole point of it's mission, to find AD with minimal risk to pilots and strike craft

>>63830788
God bless Israel.

kino

>>63831486
The point would be to not get into a war of attrition with an enemy with a much bigger economy while also spending more to counter their attacks.

>>63831487
It's literally
>well if israel was using completely different equipment and tactics things would be different
It's at least 4 layers deep on thirdy cope.

>>63831511

>>63831409
>>63831466
Anon should have said shells are cheaper than the bomber *and what the bomber would blow up if it wasn't shelled*.
Before WW2 the US invested heavily in the idea of precision bombing, but in reality it didn't work because precision evaporates under live fire and there wasn't a bean counter who said "nein, ze shells cost more than ze airplaine does". In the end we had to use a completely outrageous amount of war production compensating for the lack of accuracy with overwhelming quantity. In war you attack the enemy with whatever you have however you can because it fucks with them and if something you throw at the wall sticks with a mere 2 to 1 cost ratio you invest more into it because it's working better than most shit does.

it's weird that iran only attacks at night. like it makes no sense from a tactical perspective,

>>63831622
Yes it does. They actually don't want to kill that many Israelis because it will encourage Israel to push that dick in deeper and possibly bring the US into the war. They want to save face, not to actually do any damage.

>>63831630
why would shooting at night not kill as many israelis as doing similar strikes in a day?

>>63830662 (OP)
>Why is Iran having a hard time keeping its skies clear, at least from drones.
Same reason Hezbollah was able to fly drones above Israel and spying on them. Except, Hezbollah didn't have anything to strike what they saw....Israel does....for now.
I have a feeling their stockpile of standoff weapons will run out in a few days tops...Especially if Iran keeps sending in missiles that could hit ammo dumps inside Israel.

>>63831643
Because people are out and about during the day. Harder to find a shelter when you're in a multi hour long traffic jam.

>>63831647
>I have a feeling their stockpile of standoff weapons will run out in a few days tops...Especially if Iran keeps sending in missiles that could hit ammo dumps inside Israel.
Is this your final cope?

>>63831658
israel gives fairly early warnings. they can detect when an attack is immininet hours prio. i doubt anyone would be struck in traffic jam and also why would iran aim for highways?

>>63831622
Actually makes sense from their perspective. considering the majority of their BM arsenal is liquid fueled and those missiles take a long time to fuel, prepare and move to their launch positions.
>>63831647
>I have a feeling their stockpile of standoff weapons will run out in a few days tops...Especially if Iran keeps sending in missiles that could hit ammo dumps inside Israel
not any time soon. there was a massive air train from the US before the whole thing started and considering there are MALE drones flying around, theres more than enough JDAMs to fuck shit up without worrying

>>63831696
First of all the flight time from Iran to Israel for most ballistic missiles is about 10-15 minutes, not hours. Second of all
>iran
>aim
The CEP on their dogshit missiles is measured in kilometers.

Have Brit and French jets been involved in shooting down Iranian drones over Syria?

>>63831696
yeah naw, ive seen the live cams the alarms give them like 5 minutes before you can visually see the missiles coming down
>>63831658
and if youre in your high rise apartment asleep its much easier to get to a shelter right?

>>63831763
>and if youre in your high rise apartment asleep its much easier to get to a shelter right?
There's a shelter on every block and people know where the nearest one is by their homes. When they're an hour away from their homes it's less likely to know where to go for safety.

>>63831774
harder than if youre sleeping? doesnt make sense

>>63831790
Yes, retard. They have alarms and sirens in every building, every street corner, and on their phones.

>>63831622
Most strategic attacks in Ukraine are at night, it seems like common sense to me.
We evolved to sleep at night because it's hard to do shit in the dark. It's still kind of hard to do shit in the dark especially if an enemy nation blowing shit up disturbs the electrical wires. People are more likely to be asleep, undressed, wasted, or fucking at night, and are more likely to be sleepy at night than day even if they're supposed to be on a night shift and even if there's an ongoing war. So the response to the attack is marginally slower. Although only marginally, >>63831790 people are capable of waking up and getting their asses in gear when there are alarms and explosions.

>>63830662 (OP)
>buy western gear
>win the air war
It's easy when you think about it.

Sixty-five years ago the USSR and USA were peers, but diverged paths when the US started down the computer tech tree and the USSR lagged. The power gap grew ever since.

China, Korea and Europe joined the computerized tech tree but Russia decided to worship a dead end of mass warfare instead of catching up.

israel is not only hunting and striking TELs, but it's also striking operatives as well. holy shit. iran is absolutely getting dogwalked. what a humiliation

>>63831802
>>63831795
the whole point is that its HARDER to do at night. jesus christ talking to you people is like pulling teeth

>>63830800
>why are the Iraqis allowing Israel to launch drones into their century-long enemy from their territory?
The world may never know.

Reminder than when 4chins source leaked, it has shown that 80% of posts come from israelis IPs.

>>63831928
It's easier because you can just get up and walk down the stairs to the shelter. The Israelis pulling their cars to the side of the road and crawling under them in all the rocket attack videos aren't thinking "good thing I wasn't at home with my family surrounded by walls and 50 feet from the basement I've gone to dozens of times before".
The disadvantage of having to wake up to the emergency alert on the phone is nothing compared to the advantages of already being in a familiar shelter.

>>63831511
why are there only males in this picture?

>>63832017
bluecollar workers, clearly. females are not likely to work these jobs, especially in iran

>>63832004
what are you talking about retard
the posts count by flag is public information

>>63832004
That screenshot was faked.

>>63832004
>brownoid cocksucker asspull number 3969
The 4chan leaked proved there were no glowie mods and that most traffic came from the US. Sorry that the average person just hates you :)

>Iran has little-to-no functional AA left
Yes, HOWEVER—!!!
Our ground forces can't accidentally shoot us down now. Take that HATO Zionists!

>>63832111
Future F to whatever dune coon on that flight ends up eating an AAMRAM.

>>63831564
>Before WW2 the US invested heavily in the idea of precision bombing, but in reality it didn't work because
It didn't work because in reality they were still just fucking eyeballing it. Precision high altitude bombing is just not possible without guided munitions.

>>63832138
>high altitude bombing
Mein Führer...Hans did ze retard math and procured no AA...zey bomb us from 300 feet.

>>63830662 (OP)
>how this is fucking possible
because arabs and browns suck at war?

>>63830788
The tits to waist ratio is insane.

Did Iran really shoot down an F-35? Asking earnestly. The only pic I've seen looks like AI, as 'copey' as it sounds.

>>63832197
Iran doesn't even have air defense. Of course they didn't shoot down an F-35, you fucking retard.

>>63831296
I'd imagine the aircrews have suicide capsules on them in case they get downed.
I sure as fuck wouldn't want to be captured alive. The torture would be legendary.

>>63832205
Well how was I supposed to know about Iran's air defense capabilities...

I don't know what to tell you...

>>63832242
Oof.
What can I say? Arabs (and Persians) suck at war.

>>63832235
nta but Iran posted some emotional support flak during the night.

>>63832242
Humiliation ritual.

>>63832242
dis some ace combat shit

HE'S ALIVE AND IN TEL AVIV

>>63830800
Because Iraq isn't a real country. They have no say in anything. The lines on the map aren't worth the ink they are made from. The government might be Iran's bitch, but the whole area is the U.S.'s bitch. The U.S. and coalition forces and their bases there don't answer to Baghdad, they never have, and never will.

>>63830794
>Where’s Iran’s early warning and air patrol at least?
Israelis bombed all that back in October.

>>63830800
The US has controlled Iraqi airspace for over 30 years.

>>63832274
>Bibi! Where are the foreskins?!

>>63832274
TRUMPU! HEGSETHOV!
where is the fucking THAAD ammo?

So Isreal can do whatever they want to Iran at this point. How much longer until Iran isn't a country?

>>63832389
hopefully the iranians are capable of going back to the type of society and leadership they had in the 70s before everything got ruined

>>63832197
>posts on imageboard
>about an image
>no image
This? Confirmed fake, a real f-35 butt would give me an erection and I'm flaccid.
Israel is a real country with a free press and transparent enough government that we're not going to have to endlessly speculate like with the bloody bitch bastard war, they'll tell us exactly what they lost or didn't and any scrap of wreckage will be paraded around a lot more than one shitty image. Just wait a day and check wikipedia.

>>63832389
Depends on if the theoretical successor Iranian government shits the bed or not.
Syria is currently avoiding a US/EU constructed partition because it is wisely pantomiming western sensibilities. Julani keeps doing that, holding elections, etc for a decade or two and he may even get the Israelis forced out of the Golan Heights.

>>63832389
Depends on their magazine depth and how many generals/majors/etc they have. The moment they run out of both and can't even pretend they are fighting back or have a cohesive head-honcho, they'll collapse like a house of cards in a gentle summer breeze. If the Ayatollah is killed, it's over. They don't have popular support and their population is kept in check by the revolutionary guard and the morality police (no this is not a joke, it is a real thing) which they despise after the murder of Mahsa Amini back in 2022 (which led to mass protests {which led to a few protesters getting murdered too}). Same as their neighbor Iraq (and all Arab shitholes) the moment the iron-fisted leader gets fisted or shown as weak, the illusion of power slips and with it the illusion of control which inevitably leads to Arabs revolting, because it is in their nature as revolting sandniggers.

I give them 2-3 weeks before they collapse utterly into Syria 2.0 electric buttglue.

>>63832456
>he may even get the Israelis forced out of the Golan Heights
lol
lmao
The Golan Heights are officially recognized Israeli territory. They are never getting them back. Ever.

>>63832516
It would be in everyone's interest for Israel to bomb the loving shit out of every morality police building in the country. Maybe after Israel runs out of Iranian military hardware to destroy they'll do that.

>>63832389
It all boils down to the Ayatollah's response. If its too weak than the guy is at serious risk of a coup/popular revolt. Too strong and Iran gets hit even harder. If they start hitting US bases than I think there's going to be US involvement in thie current humiliation ritual.

>>63831696
>>63831705
Already at 3AM in the time of the attack we got an alarm on our phones saying we attacked Iran and to be “ready. We now get an early warning 30 minutes before they think a launch will take place, then 10 minute warning, then 1:30 minute in which I go with my gf to the bomb shelter in the basement of our building
t. Israeli in Tel Aviv

>>63832534
Golan Heights are not internationally recognized as part of Israel. Stop lying.

>>63832594
The were recognized by the U.S. of fucking A on March 25, 2019. The rest of the world literally does not matter, never has and never will. Whoever doesn't like it can take it to the oval office. Mullahs are never getting them back. If anything they'll be lucky if they don't loose more ground.

>>63832111
>can't accidentally shoot us down
I wouldn't underestimate Russian AAs ability to down civilian airliners. Especially with radars down, network damaged some uninformed ad-hoc stand-alone units might get lucky.

>>63830823
By the time Stalin was a dictator, his ideology had warped into one of petty revenge, but that was at least something which he was willing to put his neck on the line for.
Modern dictators have no principals beyond getting fat off the exploitation of their peons.

>>63832594
They are by the US. Literally no on else matters.

>>63831195
How one could be so blatantly wrong with such confidence, I can't exactly describe how this makes me feel - somewhere between secondhand embarrassment and morbid fascination.

>>63830800
in the 80s Israel gave Iran weapons for oil in the range of 2 billions a year. Because they were a enemy of Iraq.

now its the same deal just in reverse.

>>63830865
>we
Are the Jannies Mossad?

>>63833057
>now its the same deal just in reverse.
Not really, nom israel is alloed with the Kurds but not the Iraqi government. The only issue here is that the Kurds are orders of magnitude more powerful within Iraq than the Iraqi government is.

>>63830788
Captain here:
Millie Tanaman

what seems to be a long range iranian rada site was bombed to shit

>>63830755
>They have more of everything than BestKorea

that's not saying much

Yeah no competent nation would ever have a problem with random mystery drones in the sky.
https://news.sky.com/story/mysterious-drone-sightings-dont-pose-threat-to-public-or-national-security-us-federal-agencies-say-13275381

>>63833581
forgot image

>>63830725
But I've been told they were a threat to an empire and that empire needs American tax dollars to defend itself

>>63833324

>>63830662 (OP)
What?

>>63831222
They really ought to take the opportunity to go for broke. The IRGC is getting crippled, they won't get a better chance than this.

>>63832222
Suicide is HEAVILY frowned upon in Jewish culture.

>>63830662 (OP)
i think iran should have nukes
because then we would finally be able to see one used in modern day.

>>63830755
How much exactly did Russia "borrow" in terms of percentage? Have you been gelded Mullah?

>>63836331
>They really ought to take the opportunity to go for broke.
why would they though? What are the goals; install a friendly regime?

The current govt. of Iran is as weak as a govt. can be. If their planis to weaken Iran, let the govt. stay.
This is analogous to Russia WW1/WW2. In ww1 Germany topplied a cripple, and in ww2 they faced a reformed monster.

>>63830812
This but jews
109 countries can't be wrong

>>63831622
Think it's just plain harder to detect at night. At the very least by human eyes, whether military or civilians.

>>63831630
On the contrary they attack when they're all asleep at home and unable to run, unlike in the day when they're scattered for work

>>63831665
>t. Speechless
America sez no more handouts, bibi

>>63832079
Doubtful considering you don't need to use federal email domains to sign up for jannying. Nor do you need to be from Yidsrael instead of jewmerica to post Mossad Hasbara.

>Sorry that the average person just hates you :)
But I'm not a Jew. Sorry not sorry you all got kicked out of 109 countries

>>63832453
>Israel is a real country with a free press and transparent enough government
>they'll tell us exactly what they lost or didn't
This hasbara has convinced me that jews would never lie, especially in wartime

I doubt Iran shot down a f35 either but come the fuck on moishe, this is too on the hooknose

>>63832621
>>63832723
>null
>and
>void
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_ES-10/19

Any attempt by Israel to change the makeup of the area will be considered illegal let alone invalid. How you handling that warrant, Bibi?

>>63843609
Lmao

Is there any evidence Israeli jets (not drones) are actually flying OVER Tehran or are they still using standoff weapons from near the Iraqi border

>>63831102
soviet union was created and run by jews you stupid dumbfuck, this is horseshit

>>63843941
OPs video.
Aircrafts filming nice to fast for drones and first seconds aircraft filming is doing banking.
These clips were shot form F-35 EOTS.

>>63831296
where is israel getting all these expensive ordinance?

>>63843941
A lot of the videos and pictures of F-16s taking off shows them carrying SDBs and not standoff munitions. There's more then a couple of video recordings of things that are much more characteristic of a bomb airstrike then standoff munition, such as a vertical strike and punching through floors before detonating.

>>63843609
I think we've all seen that UN doesn't matter at all. And to be honest I wish it wouldn't be so

>>63832274
He can't keep getting away with it!

>>63832453
Check out this pathetic fake

>>63830662 (OP)
/k/ tried to convince themselves that iran got decent AA and the f35 is just a superb stealth jet, it turns out their AA is just shit instead and drones can fly over the capital without any problems.

>>63845039
>AA is just shit instead and drones can fly over the capital without any problems.
>>63844014

>>63843941
plenty of videos of JDAMS and what seem to be SPICE hit targets. those clearly can't be fired from standoff ranges.

>>63832593
gl kikeannon, dodge those rockets like your grandparents dodged the ovens

>>63844950
>300 foot long fighterbombers
USA USA USA

>>63844950
thats a big plane

>>63845039
>instead

>>63845384
>>63845384
>>63845384
>>63845384

>>63844377
It's not the UN per se that matters, it's the countries that are part of it. Can't do business with them if they don't see you as a state.

>63843745
And that's why you're wanted by the ICC, bibi habibi

>>63843609
>the U.N.
Literally nobody cares what that vile antisemitic forum spouts and whatever their non-binding resolutions say. They have always been, and always will be a farce and should they get uppity they can kiss a third of their funding goodbye.

You're brown.

>>63844950
A cockpit that could fit 15 Europeans in three ranks.
It must be the burger's training variant.

>>63830788
bogged

>>63845731
israel and jews are bad, 80iq rafida arab communists are bad. Both undermine American interests and harm White identity

>>63830662 (OP)
Russia can't stop them neither can Ukraine?
I mean, this was always going to happen, small surveillance drones are both nearly impossible to spot and also hard to shoot down.

>>63845941
>Russia can't stop them neither can Ukraine?
Russia and Israel are allies, they are trying to get America involved vs Iran to get them away from the suwalki gap

>>63830788
Boob job btw.

>>63845933
I'm sure they are for you, my brown friend. One's bad for your nefarious interests and the other is bad at warfare, because they were trained by yellow-bellied steppe monkeys, to predictable results.

>>63830868
This is spike isn't it? Are these hezbolla?

>>63845958
could also be harop or delilah
they have similar UI
>hezbollah
doesn't have spikes

>>63845943
>to get them away from the suwalki gap
lmao
Anon, Vatniks can't get 20 miles from Donetz airport, let alone whatever fanciful goals from making it to the Vistula, let alone the Rhine.

>>63845957
>I'm sure they are for you, my brown friend
Iran sends munitions to support ziggers and israel is a zigger partner that undermines the national security of the west and pushes for immigrants, ie.sending palestinians into the west
>>63845943

>>63831222
There's more than 1 million Muslims retard.
Plenty of people in Iran hate Israel, this "we are going to overthrow Iran" shit is online Israeli psyops to justify their attacks on Iran, to frame themselves as liberators.

>>63845970
I know, but that does not change my point. There is already a heaven buildup and ziggers know NATO will not do anything. Western intelligence is filled with communists/bolsheviks/zionists who undermine it everywhere

>>63845971
Can't read Taco, but I'm sure it all makes sense in your brown mind. Two more weeks, or something.

>>63845976
russia and mexico are ziggers and bolsheviks, israel is a friend to ziggers and aids them, ever since stalin and operation SIG

>>63845981
I mean half of Israels population comes from Zigjeria so it's not a surprise.

>>63845973
I see, I see and what do the voices say? Was it really aliens? Were they behind JFK?

>>63845986
its less, most are mizrahi and sefardi now

>>63845987
Ive posted sources and actual books, israel, russia, china, iran, saudi arabia are all enemies of america. Israel, russia and china are forming a new communist-bloc

>>63832017
It's not a kitchen.

>>63845996
You're utterly mental. Funny, but deranged.

>>63846011
FOIA from the FBI, the soviet-israeli connection is real and operation SIG proved this, israeli, china, ziggers are anti-West and israel is a friend to ziggers

>>63832836
>How one could be so blatantly wrong with such confidence
Vranyo.

>>63846016
And you think Mexico will invade the U.S. to retake Texas and California with joint Israeli-Vatnik-Chinese support? Really? You're a funny anon.

>>63846030
>And you think Mexico will invade the U.S. to retake Texas and California with joint Israeli-Vatnik-Chinese support?
Claudia sheinbaums top advisor is a zigger and yes they are, Scott A. Gulbransen "silent invaision" is a reality

>>63845976
>Can't read Taco,
Who's going to tell him?

>>63846045
you have high ranking soviet defectors talking about perestroika

>>63846045
katu arkonda This guy has met with Maduro and Lula , facilitated the fake election in Luhansk, visited Mariupol, attended the Russian anti fascist conference, has direct ties to President of Mexico and is currently shilling the anti ICE riots. He is also claudia sheinbaums AID and has the ear of all communists in latinx spere

>>63846045
So, you're saying that Israel would throw away decades of lobbying, bilateral relationships, goodwill, lucrative economic ties, aid packages, grants, loans, a shared history, military cooperation that is well and truly entrenched with the largest, most advanced economy on the planet and the world hegemon with the most advanced weapons bare none... To throw their lot with three failed post-soviet states (one of which is badly losing a war on its border), a drug manufacturing state (that's economically dependent on the U.S.) because... ?

>>63846074
>To throw their lot with three failed post-soviet states (one of which is badly losing a war on its border), a drug manufacturing state (that's economically dependent on the U.S.) because... ?
because they have always been with them since the 1940s, the founders of israel were communists, you are saying why would a country infiltrate and try to subvert the USA? Because they're an enemy

israel sent tech to china, they also helped russia in this war against ukraine. They have also worked with CCCP general Chi Haotian, who said china is working on biological weapons against the west.

>>63845946
No fucking shit. Normal human flesh does now grow into perfectly spherical orbs.

>>63846088
This is some beautiful story. You made me chuckle, anon.

>>63846110
Its funny seeing jewish shills here because they can never refute anything except engage in sophistry and kvetch

>>63830662 (OP)
You fell for muslim posturing.
Frankly embarrassing, considering it's aimed at IQ ~85 brown third-worlders.
There's a reason Iran only manufactures literal knockoffs of everything and never designs anything worthwhile on their own: they're fucking dumb, even though they look positively genius when compared to their neighbors.

>>63831647
>I have a feeling their stockpile of standoff weapons will run out in a few days tops

And i have a feeling your mother got drunk most nights when she carried you. Israel has been bombing Gaza for 18 months. They can simply expend less bombs there. Also, they know how much they got, how much they have coming and how much they are expending. Why in the fuck would they launch a campaign they can only sustain for less than two weeks. They aren't Russia.

Secondly, do you think Iran's Ballistic missile stockpile will last any longer than Israel can sustain their bombardment?

>>63843609
>How you handling that warrant, Bibi?
He's still Head Kike, still not arrested, still making tankies and thirdies seethe.
Congratulations, you guys chasing a "WHO MUST GO?" dragon that has exponentially lower odds than Assad of actually getting gone lmao.

>>63830800
Sunni muslims in Iraq hates Shia muslims from Iran

>>63846115
no one could refute your article headline photo from 2016 that you cropped the name and content off of? jeez

>>63845971
uhuh, sure

What are the odds a thread on Israel ends up a derailed schizo shitfest?

>>63846893
1

No.... They did not deserve this!

>https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1934671873608143087

I was told by /pol/ that Iran is winning because it has 'strategic depth' and is 'a big country' and has achieved all its goals and Israel hasn't done anything.

>>63830865
>we
Everything I post in this site is satire and or memes.

>>63831072
Why would they ever fight? The second most common nationality in Israel after Israeli is Russian. Putin is Jewish by blood (his mother was a Jew). Putin's daughter married a Jew. He has awards for Zionism. Israel told Ukraine to surrender to Russia. Etc etc etc.

They'd never fight. Russia will play the neutral 'everybody be nice :(' card because they can't piss off Iran and lose equipment supply and can't piss off Israel or risk their tax haven getting annoyed. Again, not that Israel would send anything to Ukraine or help Ukraine - they wouldn't.

>>63846922
It achieved its goals of all of its puppet armies turning impotent, blind and testicleless

>>63846074
In a sense he’s right in that Israeli appears to be ready to pivot at any moment.
If the US or Europe turns on Israel, Israel then pivots to China, India, Russia, and others.
What would make it worth it to China to partner with Israel given the reputational
hit? Israel has decades of nuclear weapons research, practical experience with Western style attack subs, plus a huge amount of intelligence and info gathered from Western military R&D from documented spying cases as well as scientists leaving US firms for Israeli ones.

However, it’s pure fantasy that Israel is deeply motivated by communist influences in the current day. They have much more in common with Mormons in the 1800s, Sikhs today, or any number of ethno-religious groups with very strong in-group bonds and fear of existential threats that surround them.
All such nations engage in cynical, multiplicitous international and military relations for risk diversification.

>>63846922
>>63846980
pol is so funny
its absolutely filled to the brim with first gen muslims living in the west, seething

>>63847497
jif if you're interested

>>63847662
Here, take the webm

>>63847014
>However, it’s pure fantasy that Israel is deeply motivated by communist influences in the current day. They have much more in common with Mormons in the 1800s, Sikhs today, or any number of ethno-religious groups with very strong in-group bonds and fear of existential threats that surround them.
I think communism/socialism was really attractive during a certain time when Jews didn't have their own state, and many states were antisemitic, which made a revolutionary ideology derived from Marxism highly attractive. People don't usually like that shit when things are going well, but when things suck. And there was a strong element in this "Labor Zionism" of Jews becoming worker-farmer-soldiers (in contrast to traditional Jewish occupations, like merchants). If you ever see references to the Palmach (now an Israeli teen show!) those were communists, Stalinists even:
https://youtu.be/lVwpFn3yTrg

But I think the only real legacy of that today is Israel having universal healthcare and 40% of Israeli Jews being "hiloni" (completely non-religious). But beyond that, it's dead. And actually Jewish labor-Zionist nationalism really conflicted with Soviet communism and the alliance didn't survive past the first few years, and Israeli politics began noticeably shifting to the right in the 1970s.

BTW, another 30% of Israeli Jews are "masorti" (religious, but not as a lifestyle). Then there are the "dati leumi" (national religious, or religious Zionist) who are far right, and there are much of them in the IDF. Then you have the "haredi" or ultra-Orthodox who wear 1850s coats and hats, wear long beards, and scream at you if they see any part of a woman's leg. And they comprise 15% of Israel and have tons of kids.

>>63845946
And? I still want to see her nudes

>>63831234
Soviets were not going to conqer shit with UK and US bailing them out. Their campaign would have ended with them retreating behind the Volga befire the advancing germans

>>63839232
>reformed monster
Oh fuck off with this revisionist garbage turdie. Vatnik union was never and will never be cool

>>63846932
>>63830865
Crack open the file on the Epstein operation, moshe.

Pull the file on Black Cube while you're at it.

>>63831368
B-17s and B-24s flew at 17-19,000 feet, not 30,000 feet. They are unpressurized aircraft, you can’t fly in the death pressure zone for hours in something like that. The B-29 could and did, but not the B-17 or B-24.

>>63830865
>we
God fuckin dammit
This is arguably scarier than learning wendigoes post on this board

>>63831084
>mossad got him mid post
Grim

>>63845996
They don't seem to be doing a very good job of it.

Why does Iran keep trying to play tit-for-tat against a country that has an overwhelming advantage in military power, and a total lack of shame to give a fuck about how it makes them look? What's the end goal here? That's like me deciding twice a week I'm going to go find the biggest bouncer I can and pick a fight with him, because [???]. Do they really believe their own hype that much?

>>63832453
Looks more like an F16 than a 35,

>>63848887
theyre really stupid

>>63830662 (OP)
The reason is The Mossad made a drone base within Iran, and has been happily bombing them from within their own country. Thats hilarious

>>63846919
Why aren't they flying. I can understand Russian AD being completely impotent, but why not trying to do sortie? Or at least relocate? Better than just exploding on the tarmak

>>63830788
That's an attractive russian prostitute anon.

>>63848887
Try and roleplay from their point of view. Don't do so in a
>Herp a derp I'm dumb and this will validate my view of them as dumb
But rather get into their headspace. These being:
>"The Israelis are all bark and no bite. When they face actual casualties they'll wilt"
based off the LEbanese wars but mistaken given October 7th made them go giganationalist and to the hilt.
>"Our capabilities are sound and great, we'll do fine"
because the leadership gets shitty reports from their underlings based on what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear. They punish messengers of bad news. So it's rational on part of the leadership, just mistaken based on the truth they do not know."
>A war will help solidify the regime's control because we will be martyrs to the people
Quick short war to bolster support at home is a popular strategy (Netanyahu is doing it himself).
>They know the Israelis don't have bunker busters, and the US they assume is reluctant to engage.
This one is dubious because they probably don't know what the Israelis have. Iranian intelligence are for gangster-shit (and not very great at that, either), not intelligence shit.
>Air power is great but not decisive - ultimately you have to get boots on the ground and the Americans do not have the stomach for that. Look at Gaza where Hamas is still active despite the Israelis even having boots on the ground.
This one is dubious because they have to accept they'd be living like fucking molemen or hill-billies to survive.

I think they're retarded for going all show instead of being much more sneaky and conciliatory towards the US to quickly sprint and get a nuke, but you can think out their thought process to not just virgin dumbasses vs chad brainmaxxed.

>>63830938
>Hossein Salami
Heh

>>63845731
>vile antisemitic forum
>"It's antisemitic to criticize us!"
You're the second jew to say this to me today. The Israelis will have to do business with the rest of the world embassies outside the city because no one else is playing along.

>You're brown.
No I'm not a jew, I just hate their tricks. Every accusation really is a confession from you yids.

>>63850698
no one cares antisemite, stop wasting your life and peoples times on your mental illness

>>63850700
Die kike

>>63850576
I too would want to destroy the white race if I looked like this

Cursed.

>>63830662 (OP)
>mfw we're living in a time where a country that's been gassed up to be a major threat for decades is being bullied like some beta bitch boy
God, what a time to be alive, man!

>>63850700
Look you're doing it again! The absolute lack of self-awareness is astounding, can't see beyond your big fat hooknose. I like how you're using the same zionist talking points without ever explaining why the UN is supposedly antisemitic, then call me brown like your own ass isn't. Seriously, you're a jew calling others brown, you're only proving the notion that jewish accusations = confessions.

As I told the last hasbara shill who said the same to me, if you think criticism of behavior is antisemitic that means that very behavior is Semitic. And if everything is antisemitic... nothing is.

>>63846511
Even if he isn't arrested he's effectively trapped in Israel because he'll be blackbagged the moment he steps foot anywhere else. The entire country is now his prison, but the prisoners there don't have shanks, they have Shaheds. Long as he (and ideally every other jew) stays there that's good enough for me

>>63850780
>They have ineffectual mopeds
Huh?

>>63848764
lmao

>>63850773
tl;dr no one cares poltard

>>63850780
yet he travelled to the US recently.

>>63845384
For you...

>>63850576
And these are the unattractive russian prostitutes

>>63848887
What can they possibly do? Take the Lebanon route and just let Israel bomb them without retaliating in any way? I guess that would lead to slightly less bombing.

>>63848887
because they are religious. their calculation is not 'what will happen if i do x?', it is 'what does allah want me to do?'. The ilusion of causation such as 'weapons kill enemies', is only there to indicate what the correct course of action is, actually trying to calculate efficacy is not properly trusting god.
Therefore every time they launch they are sure that if god wants that volley of 15 missiles to finally cripple israel, it will, and either way it is not their concern as they merely need to make sure they are doing the correct thing, which is trying to kill their enemy.

>>63850758
How is it possible to be wrong about literally everything you have ever said?

>>63850700
>antisemite
ok, now what? do i support israel now that you said that?

>>63847677
webm is too long. it needs to be shorter to be more memetic

>>63830800
Nigga what the FUCK could Iraq do about any of this if they even wanted

>>63850700
Antisemitism isnt real.

>>63848887
Well they did have Hezbollah in Gaza and Southern Lebanon they could actually use for tit-for-tat attacks whilst keeping the conflict contained.

Honestly October 7 was such a colossal fuck up from Hamas as it literally solidified public opinion in Israel and silenced anyone believing that the status quo could go on. Before that there was very little appetite amongst the Israeli public to go balls to wall and actually deal with Iran beyond a couple of isolated strikes here and there.

>>63830662 (OP)
Did you miss the videos of Mossad agents inside Iran sabotaging their air defense network?
People also generally seem to overestimate the ability of ground-based air defenses. It's really difficult to shoot down hostile aircraft if you don't have an overwhelming volume of fire, even without Mossad inside your lines fucking everything up.

>>63830800
Iraq is a neutered puppet state with no real say in the matter.
Turkey occupies part of it in the north,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgVUnu9lXNA