For me it's caffeine, but I hear there's a secret super energy program akin to MK-Ultra being conducted by American scientists to make the ultimate stimulant that only special forces have access to.
>>63834980 (OP)>ultimate stimulant that only special forces have access to.literally just amphetamine
>>63834980 (OP)Yes, it's concentrated cheer leader pussy juice
>>63834980 (OP)they don't want you to know about caffeine + l-theanine
Just take pre-workout if you need to move it. For cognitive alertness, Dex is useful short term (a few days), but there is a drawback. After being overclocked, your brain will need time to recover. Rebounding from stims is an irritable process.
>>63834980 (OP)Amphetamines.
Sure they pussied out and use modafinil now but the death squads are 100% just using meth.
>>63836207>modafinilShit sucks and is overated. Makes me sleepy and makes my brain feel slower.
>>63834980 (OP)Truthfully we still haven't surpassed meth. We have slow drip and better delivery for it, and different stuff mixed in, but ultimately meth is still the only combat drug that matters
There's a heap used, issued, un-issued, mission specific.
Gets take concerta, a slow release Ritalin off label for periods of increased combat focus, it's pretty harmess and doesn't pose much rick of abuse.
There's straight Amines but these are only for emergency use in extended engagements,where alertness matters more than fine motor controls, because you don't need to be very jittery before you start making critical mistakes, usually always paired with synergistic stimulants.
there's meth, which is basically never issued or used, but non state forces use it because they cant get anything better. while strong, unless you are on the run from enemy force on foot there's not much point, troops would suffer huge attrition.
There's what the media calls captagon, but is really just a synergetic Amine/ Theophylline, very similar to taking amphetamine and red bull together, but synergistic and less likely to give you a heart attack...at least in relative terms. What people refer to as captagon however is often no captagon, that name became street slang. On the upside you can make it in a bathtub.
Shit isn't magic, it's the same stuff sold in US pharmacies and just as widely misused by US troops
>>63836207>>63836634Agreed, modafinil (and adrafinil by extension) is not good for focus. It's really only good for staying awake. I used to take that but now take adderall since getting my ADHD diagnosed. Caffeine is good too though like many ADHD types I'm caffeine insensitive
Why is it ok for the military to have vending machines full of redbull and servicemen who NEED a coffee to get through the day but DQ someone with Adhd from enlisting cause they took Adderall.
How the fuck can a (at least until recently) tranny needing HRT and all sorts of accommodation be allowed to enlist over said adhd person?
>>63838852>How the fuck can a tranny needing HRT and all sorts of accommodation be allowed to enlist over said adhd person?They can't? Trannies aren't allowed in anymore. They never really were allowed in the first place, thru DEI faggotry a couple snuck in during the biden administration
>>63834980 (OP)nicotine & caffeine, sometimes taurine
just works
>>63838737>>63834980 (OP)Isn't the thing with stimulants is that the come down makes you super lethargic and tired? All that boost of energy comes at a cost and I always found myself sleeping 24hours the next day after cramming 2 days worth of getting shit done into 1. So wouldn't that make it a bad thing for the military to use where there arent enough men to cover for you and at any moments notice your day off is another work day?
In fact im VERY surprised the top powers of the world haven't invested Aircraft Carrier money into researching a stimulant that has no comedown.
Like yeah it will probably take 20 years off your life since you have to take that energy from somewhere and a heavy toll/debt accumulates on your body BUT that just means they dont have to pay as much for pensions and benefits. Squeezing 8 years of service from 4 years of enlistment seems like a great way to save costs and at the same time always have your military at its peak in perparedness and gear with all that drug fueled RnD.
>>63836634Modafinil works great for me. Both for focus and wakefulness. I used it a bit when writing my masters thesis, but I had problem keeping focus on the right thing.
I'd be writing really well, then stumble over something, and then spend a couple of hours reading wiki articles on completely unrelated stuff.
>>63839307But I couldn't really get used to the dark/blackish pee. That was absolutely weird to see.
i wonder if it would work if you add l-theanine to an energy drink that's caffeine + taurine. would three of them work well together while also preserving that monster ultra smoothness?
the hardest stim i took was ritalin. but i actually have adhd so it's difficult to compare effect with a normal person. i get the feeling everything other than the good ol' aderall is a cope in some way. even the harder stuff like meth. maybe there is new stuff though.
>>63835023Is it really that powerful? I've known a few cheerleaders, and they didn't seem like anything special.
>>63836207>>63838761>>63839148i was given armodafinil but it made me anxious, and the few times i took too much I was awake for 50+ hours with a short nap in there. there was no come down
crazy stuff
>>63834980 (OP)They turn white women into super soldiers by airdropping a BBC into their designated attack point. They turn into a cross between bane from batman when he's juiced up, hulk, and the alien from predator
It's fucking wild to me that we send people into intense combat high on drugs, like it isn't already a life-altering intense experience. Imagine winding up in mortal hand to hand with a guy completely zooted on meth; imagine being a civilian, maybe a woman, left in the splash zone of victorious enemy soldiers who haven't had any in months, hate your country, and just dropped a fresh dose of fucking meth. Obviously if full on combat is occurring things already aren't exactly ideal, but it's still fucked up.
>They turn white women into super soldiers by airdropping a BBC into their designated attack point. They turn into a cross between bane from batman when he's juiced up, hulk, and the alien from predator
>>63840683Nice Heat quote and all, but this doesn't bring me closer to enlightenment.
Maybe I'm just retarded?
>>63839484XYience does that. It's okay.
>>63840915>KratomI'm a filthy phoneposter today
>>63834980 (OP)A cocktail of caffeine, taurine, nicotine, l-theanine and lisdexmethamphetamine. If i can't feel the blood in my veins it's not enough.
>>63839035extremely rare reddit kino? What the fuck has the world come too???
>>63834980 (OP)I take Adderall, but I think I would prefer Vyvanse judging from the reviews I've heard. I would also be fine with taking Desoxyn (meth), but hardly anyone prescribes it.
>>63839148>sleeping 24hours the next day after cramming 2 days worth of getting shit done into 1damn nigga, the longest I've slept was 17 hours, and that was after binging Adderall and writing college papers for like 40 hours straight.
>>63840805It needs to be applied topically and direct from the source, it's extremely potent like spice from dune.
>>63841287>>63835089Doesn't L-theanine just debuff the energizing effects of caffeine, that's the only synergistic effect I learned about.
>>63834980 (OP)>secret super energy program akin to MK-Ultra being conducted by American scientistsYes, the old Four Loko formula, the government classified it and now we have crap.
>>63843016I see. Guess I'll need to track down a cheerleader to test this.
>>63834980 (OP)It's pretty good, not too trippy, makes time seem to slow down but with glitches like when you scrub through a video in Final Cut Pro or Adobe Premiere, like you can see what'll happen, makes you feel like you just woke up fully refreshed and are standing in a cool breeze, but the effects only last like 40 minutes, but you can keep taking more pills to add another 40 minutes, however the more pills you take the more cum dribbles out of your dick, like after 6 or 7 pills it's pouring out like a faucet, so weird.
>t. oper8or
Modafinil If I need to be awake for physical activity (driving, building, teaching)
Nicotine plus amphetamine for mental activity (reading, writing, coding).
Caffeine if I don’t get a full nights rest.
Crashing always gives me anxiety and sometimes panic so I keep benzodiazepines at hand for those various overnight shifts in lab.
I don’t use stimulants innafield. It makes me sweat and I’m naturally more alert than day to day life anyways. I took a four day survival course where I got 8 hours of sleep the entire time and not once did I feel like I needed caffeine. That being said, if I had to take something to stay awake it would either be ephedrine or a non-psychoactive dose of LSD (15-30ug)
>ultimate stimulant
yeah it's called amphetamine
>>63834980 (OP)It's literally nicotine, it gives you physical boost and it suppresses fear. It's much better in a non-smoking form though because smoke itself sedates you and neutralizes the effect.
>>63834980 (OP)>>63845179do lower end stimulants like caffeine and nicotine not really work for anyone else?
i can drink coffee all day or chug a monster and not feel anything
i smoke a cig and get nothing, i smoke a pipe or cigar and eventually it makes me feel a little light headed but theres no "buzz" or stimulation or anything, and a zyn just makes me feel so dizzy i throw up
>>63843871Check your local pharmacy
>>63834980 (OP)Halperidol will unlock your potential anon.
>>63845319Chances are that you don't even realize how stoned you constantly are. Like those guys who are so drunk that they can barely stand on their feet but they insist that they are absolutely sober. And you do build some drug resistance in time; that (and possibility of addiction) is the general downside of this all (mere alcohol used to be an encouraged drug of choice for common soldiers; but the nicotine is worlds better in this role as it doesn't impair your motor and cognitive functions like alcohol does).
I can't comment on "harder" drugs as I have no personal experience with them and I don't like to babble.
>>63839148>20 years off your life.DOD would call that the whole reason for the program.
>>63839148The navel post graduate school in Monterey has a decent sleep lab for the military but it’s run by SJWs. They shy away from pharmaceutical intervention for things like cold showed, blue morning light, flashing green light at night, sleep hygiene training. But at least they were supposed to get replica submarine bunks before Covid.
It’s mostly the flight surgeons that throw drugs at pilots using only binary sex differences as dosing parameters. Men get x mg of uppers and y mg of downed, women get x-h and y-h.
I’m a sleep scientist and go to the Aerospace Medical Association Meeting when I have time.
>>63850916Im skinny yet when I sleep on my back I get sleep paralysis and night terrors or my breathing jolts me awake right before I fall onto deep sleep, as if I was about to suffocate.
Is that sleep apnea? How do I avoid it? I thought it was only a fat people thing but I don't want to get a fucking cpap yet my favorite sleeping position is the mummy/dracula ever since RTC due to the fact id just sleep ontop of the rack with my sweats and not move an inch so id never have to make my bed again.
I had no problems then but now im 29 and this shit is coming up
Also sometimes I wake up and my ears hurt something fierce and usually are oozing some liquid. Idk if that's earwax or what but its specifically the antitragus area.
>>63838761Yea shit sucks I didn't even use it when studying for the bar exam because it made my thoughts all fuzzy by mid afternoon
>>63839965I was getting in to this heavy but its back to just kratom powder this week. Tolerance went through the rough and I was feeling like dog shit yesterday.
>>63843171It takes away the jittery edge of the caffeine. You still get the wakefullness and stimulation but it feels calmer.
