Thread 63842007

Why wouldnt you use all the missiles at the same time saturating the target like the bombing of bagdag in 2003?
because the missiles has to share limited launchers?? i dont know, i seems not optimal because you expose the whole operation a longer period of time while in danger of being counter attacked in my limited opinion

>>63842007 (OP)
because they have more missiles than launchers. the launchers are the bottleneck

>>63842032
and fewer launchers every day

Missiles like shooting stars.

>>63842007 (OP)
>Why wouldnt you use all the missiles at the same time
Iran doesn't have enough TELs/launch systems for that.

Their missiles being liquid fueled also didn't help matters given there is a lot of standing around involved when loading compared to solid fuel systems.

>>63842032
>the launchers are the bottleneck
Also, they may have been wanting to evaluate the effects of earlier strikes before deciding to conduct additional ones. There's no point in launching 2X missiles if X would do the job.

>>63842194
>the job
the job blanket destruction of cities, they are launching as many as they can as fast as they can

>>63842007 (OP)
>seems suboptimal because you're exposed to counter strike longer
You're correct.
>but why
It is indeed limited launchers, and pulling missiles out of holes in the ground.
>but why not focus
Because not only do Iranian missiles have a CEP measured in Km, they're just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what they hit.
>so why not target airbases and the like
Because Israeli AD is going to be most heavily concentrated around places like that, the targets are much smaller and generally spread out in hardened shelters, and most importantly mostly mobile. Cities just sit there and a few missiles getting through can potentially cause disproportionate damage.
>that seems dumb
Yes. Now they've really pissed the Israelis off and they have video both of apartment buildings suffering direct hits AND Iranians celebrating because the Iranians are releasing videos of just that. Israel is going to cry to the US, the US is going to show up and rearrange the topography of Iran, and Khameni is going to end up with a bayonet in his ass.

>>63842007 (OP)
if iran lines up all their launchers outside to launch together they all get killed by IDF. thats why its in batches and at night to hide/escape from IDF.

theyre already losing dozens of launch teams daily

>>63842230
There's not enough Iranian missiles to do that job. If we're talking munitions competition Israel and the US would likely flatten Iran before they could do that, their cities would require similar numbers of sorties and those are far cheaper than ballistic missiles generally.

I'm generally for it, Iran has been freely supplying Russia with missiles and drones for years, I have little sympathy for them even if I generally dislike Israel.

>>63842512
>Iranian missiles have a CEP measured in Km,
That's a little much. We've seen them hit the center of an airbase, even if the distribution inside of it was all over the damn place. Don't get me wrong, the CEP is still going to be measured in hundreds of meters, but it's not V-2 tier.

The same stay-near-shelter warning is still active, where is my fucking kino Iran?!

>>63842042
Can we pretend that missiles in the night sky are like shooting stars? I could really use some dead kikes right now gas them now holocaust right now!

>>63842007 (OP)
The Iranian missile complex is large and variable. There is liquid fueled, solid fueled, IRGC, Air force. different bases. Its possible there isn't much coordination at the moment because damage taken, and subunits are on plan B and just doing their own barrages. Yes OP you're right.

Any missile other than cruise missiles or hypersonic missiles would use up rocket fuel during acceleration, so what is burning and raining down like meteors?

>>63845795
Nothing is burning, the casing just glows white-hot because of the air friction at high speeds

Dumb question: why fire at night?
I mean, it's not 1940 anymore, it's not like radars won't pick them up. if anything, that giant light flare in the sky is impossible to miss compared to daytime.
The only real reason I can see is to make the population alert at night, alongside the defending army, but it's not like night shifts aren't a thing anyway.

>>63846545
electro optical tracking still exists
background EM radiation stuff
it looks cooler

Should the US construct a giant conventional ICBM missile field populated with thousands of MOAB-warhead missiles? Someplace a long distance from the nuclear missile fields so that launches won't be mistaken for nukes. Imagine having the ability to hit Tehran with hundreds of MOABs almost simultaneously in 30 minutes.

>muh civilians

Fuck 'em. Giving a shit about civilians is how superpowers lose wars. Deleting civilians is how you solve a problem forever. The nuclear genie stays in the bottle, but you still benefit from the Hiroshima results.

>>63845795
Ballistic missiles of the MRBM range band generally enter the atmosphere around mach 10, at those speeds there is massive amounts of friction heating. Going mach 8 at 80,000 feet generates temperatures on the nose of a missile of about 3000 F. Mach 10 puts you closer to 4000 F. This is fast enough that you will see the heating cause plasma formation as well so you get quite a bit of glow on the front of the missiles as they enter terminal phase

>>63846545
>The only real reason I can see is to make the population alert at night
That's the reason. It applies to the general population more than anything.

>>63846572
ICBMs are expensive as fuck, you're talking at best in the high tens of millions range, or $160 million in the case of the new LGM-35. It makes more sense to just have carrier aircraft launch smaller hypersonic missiles like ARRW than to make conventional ICBMs

>>63846572
Sounds like a really good way to make Russian early warning systems shit themselves and launch a retaliatory strike.

>>63845795
see
>>63846602

Also, those could be 2nd stage boosters. When the warhead seperates from the booster after burnout, the booster obviously follows a similiar arc.

>>63846545
They may be concerned about evading optical surveillance from US satellites or drones. The optical surveillance gives more information than just a binary yes/know "launch here" from the IR, it can help with structure targeting and strike effectiveness.