Thread 63865373

Wouldn't that mean we can start shipping guns to our door if the Triple B passes? \
FFLs OBSOLETE?

>eewww boi I can't get my $55 kittcher table fee no more than means i gotta sell my boat, my craighawf, and liquidart my grandkids' gerber grew up life insurrence plan that's no good no sireee

-sent from my fuddphone using tapatalk

>>63865373 (OP)
Not if they require a simple 4473. I don't know why they can do it now, maybe because getting a stamp is considered an exhaustive enough check to bypass regulations requiring an FFL performing a transfer.

>>63865373 (OP)
Fuck ya
mudda

>>63865373 (OP)
No. It would be removing suppressors from the NFA making them unregulated, nothing to do with how firearms are handled.

>>63865373 (OP)
>maybe because getting a stamp is considered an exhaustive enough check to bypass regulations requiring an FFL performing a transfer
Getting the stamp means the background check cleared. When you go pick up a can, they don't run another NICS before disposition.

Some states allow for direct shipping at that point.

You guys are gonna hate me for this, but I really don't want to give up our public land for NFA deregulation. I want the NFA tax stamp abolished, but not for this.

https://www.wilderness.org/articles/media-resources/250-million-acres-public-lands-eligible-sale-senr-bill

>>63865540
Okay then just talk about that, support good things and stuff.

>>63865483
The would still be regulated as firearms under the GCA

>>63865540
i hate blm so fuck their land

>>63865540
Less than 1% of federal lands btw

>>63865373 (OP)
>if the Triple B passes
it won't

>>63865540
>according to that map, neither the Pawnee nor Comanche national grasslands
>all the Mojave Wasteland
I’m ok with this if this is indeed the reality

>>63865540
>Forcing the sale of the American birthright
That is so fucking gay.

>>63865880
wrong blm anon

>>63865373 (OP)
FFL is still required, they just ship it to you instead of you going to pick it up.

>>63865448
Having used CA before, you still have to fill out a 4473 for a suppressor.

>>63866145
Maybe he's a rancher

>>63866041
It's the 1% of lands that's worth a fuck tho, not just radioactive scrubland in Nevada.

>>63865540
>>63866084
>selling any land at all to companies in c*lifornia
if you think this land is ugly then you dont understand how kino it is to haul your ass into the middle of the desert with nobody around for dozens of miles to do basically whatever you fucking want
>long distance shooting (500m+)
>hunting
>camping
>shooting cannons
>setting off massive amounts of tannerite
>shooting machine guns with tracers into the air
>doing shrooms

>>63866409
>California desert
>long distance shooting
>camping
>doing shrooms
I'm not even american
traveled to the west coast a few years ago
and this was one of my all time favorite /trv/ experiences

this alongside doing shrooms in the Redwood National Park
10/10

>>63865540
Good news, we're going to give up public land whether we like it or not because the Republicans control the government and Trump and his allies control the Republicans so this shit is getting rammed through no matter what. We'll take any win we can get out of it.

>>63865540
Not an exclusive choice.

>>63865540
>50%
Fuck future generations

>>63866342
>3rd party paid for the illegal grazing and the govt stepped away
Fggets

>>63865540
This. I don't want to lose my place to shoot. I called my reps about this.

yall broke bitches need to pay 100$ per month to a gun range. If you ain't got a membership to a gun range you ain't shiiiiiiiii

>>63865373 (OP)
Couriers will just refuse transporting them.

>>63865373 (OP)
Are burgers really not able to get guns and supressors shipped to their door? Here in germany you can receive them by courier no problem. Next thing you tell me that they have to pay ridiculous taxes on supressors aswell? Lmaoing at their freedoms

>>63868123
I pay 600 a year for a full membership to a range in nyc. AMA.

>>63868156
Hans didn't one of sand nigger wrangler get stabbed in the neck? Why are you here?

>>63868156
>to their door
Guns no, suppressors yes.
>Lmaoing at their freedoms
The variety and selection of guns you can own is complete shit compared to what we can buy in the U.S.
Tell Mohammad I said "hello," after he is done banging your mother and sister.

It ain't gonna pass.
Nothing ever happens.

>>63865540
I agree with this anon. You dumb fucking niggers are missing the forest for the trees on this bill

>>63865540
Most of us in the east live in states where there's little to no BLM. What am I going to do, go shoot in the fucking everglads? Fuck you buddy, I care about abolishing unconstitutional laws that turn people into felons where they're shot in the face by the ATF during no knock warrants more than I care about you losing a few acres of desert.

>>63865540
100%.

Fuck anyone in favor of selling our birthright.

>>63868204
you won't be able to get suppressors delivered to your door anymore if the senate bill passes
it does remove the wait times but you do need to go in to the FFL to do a 4473

>>63865540
I personally agree. I rather keep all of the NFA ATF regulations and stop 98% of this public land sale.

>>63868820
>I don't get to experience the splendor of nature so why should anyone else?
A true American, looking after your fellow man and never selling out

>>63866167
>>63866299
I feel like you are missing the point. Even after filling out a 4473 you cannot just get a firearm shipped to your door unless you have your tabletop license.

>>63865373 (OP)
>Wait.... If you can ship cans to your door...
The "If" here depends 100% on the exact, specific letter of law that ultimate gets through (if it does, right now afaik the outlook is not good). If suppressors were simply removed as "firearms" entirely (which makes sense, they aren't firearms they're muzzle devices), then they could be shipped to your door the same way a muzzle brake or VFG or any other accessory could be. But it'd have absolutely zero implication for guns, it just wouldn't legally be one anymore.

If they instead changed it so it's still a "firearm" but no longer title 2, now you have to buy it via FFL and 4473 same as a gun, but no more NFA process. In that case no, you couldn't get them shipped to your door.

CA has some sort of special thing setup under the current system. It might be that they lose that ability under a new one, or that everyone gains it under the new one. It's still up in the air.

>>63868820
Said by the 300 pound landless cuck.

>>63868820
>falling for the land grabber's false dichotomy
You absolute stupid faggot. Even if the deal was real it's a shitty deal vs what we could and should be achieving. But it probably isn't real, instead what will happen is
>parliamentarian: no bueno
>gop senators: oh geeze welp that's the ruling nothing we can do!
>/shoves through the rest of the bullshit/
Getting even this far represents enormous progress. There will be more chances. If all tons of our public land gets sold off we're not getting it back ever except at exorbitant markup.

>>63865373 (OP)
Doesn't matter. This shit is going nowhere and you're getting a Democrat supermajority for decades after Trump drags the country into yet another Middle East sandpeople war.

>>63868820
Die in a hole then you east coast faggot

>>63865540
Yeah it sucks and frankly I'd rather the bill die. Especially since it also supposedly has a bunch of anti-EV stuff that'll fuck over that Slate pickup that I was somewhat excited for. Really, for as much as I want over the counter suppressors, this is a bad deal and honestly supporters are doing gun rights a disservice by restricting the spots where you can shoot. Hurts to say but it's true

>>63868936
>if the senate bill passes
>if
It's not going to pass.
People on /k/ (and other single issue voters) are deluding themselves into a false sense of hope and infecting others with their optimism and idiocy.
The bill's going to be shot down, it's already obvious.

>>63865540
kill the fucking bill, if these retards can't get it done without burning down my fucking woods then they can go fuck themselves. just evidence that they're trying to pad their fucking pockets while throwing the fucking scraps to people hoping they don't notice.

they need to just sit down and rip up the NFA on it's fucking own, the laws a piece of shit in every possible fucking way anyways, pretty sure everyone can agree on that.

>>63869557
>>63869560
>>63869611
this is all completely (depressingly) true except I fear reality is even worse and like >>63869496 says we will end up with worst of all worlds where even the scraps get removed via totally-not-our-fault obtuse rule procedure at the last minute and the shitty bulk does end up passing and raping us

>>63865523
>they don't run another NICS before disposition.
You still fill out the 4473, they just skip the NICS. The 4473 acts as a record of transfer from the FFL's A&D logs, at the very least.

If they become entirely unregulated just order solvent traps from china, or stick a wix filter on the end of your gun. Rubber wipes are insanely effective and cost nothing also. There's no actual reason for suppressors to be super durable devices that last for thousands of rounds or have super competitive signature reduction, the NFA has just morphed them into that because people dont want to pay a tax stamp and wait out the period for a disposable device.

If they become 4473 items same thing, you'll probably just fill out of a form for a thread adapter/hub and then screw on a disposable chinese solvent trap/filter

>>63869672
Addendum*: no 4473 is required if it is a private sale of a NFA item, but a Form 4 is still required (as of now, before the HPA passes).
t. has legally bought several full autos from private sellers in the same state. You have to paper file the form 4 though, which sucks.

>>63866602
>let's just accept the rotting scraps our masters throw us guise

>>63866420
>>63866409
Can psychedelics and firearms mix?

>>63866849
What? You're too poor to afford your own private land?

>>63869706
>What are you a fag? Demand Everything! Make it so there's no possibility of compromise and it will be rejected
leftist gun grabbing faggot. elon musk faggot ass anon

>>63868176
>AMA

Sure. Fuckin' why?

>>63869723
>They can do me up the ass as long as they kiss me after

>>63868820
>florida
>doesn't care about
Go suck some ((( ))) cocks in boca raton and enjoy huffing lead fumes in your shitty indoor ranges, floritard.

>>63869719
>implying you can afford miles of land with varying terrains to shoot and train on
Post most expensive gun

>>63869729
Different Anon, but my range is $500
>25 different private 50yd private lanes/pits
>2 dedicated .22/rimfire ranges out to 100/200yds
>4 rifle ranges from 200/300/300/500/1300yds
>steel swinging trees/poppers/animal and human silhouettes are abundant on most every range
>shotgun/clay range
>archery range
>all ranges have concrete slips at fixed distances, no need for target stands
>well maintained benches, rests, etc. and just generally clean and organized
>competition/meet ups every weekend, IPSC, 3 gun, IDPA, cowboy, CMP, machine gun matches, etc.
>weekend clean up events with free BBQ + chance to make frenz and learn diff shooting
It's worth it, plus I never have to see poor people blowing up their old TV or pumpkins after Halloween.

>>63870030
Don't have photo but some plinker I got for fiddy bucks

>>63870030
Also, I was being facetious. It's a bullshit bill

>>63870055
Invite only or anyone can join? Can you go hiking on it?

>>63869706
That's all we're going to get from now on. The republic is dead. The oligarchs have won.

>>63870055
not either previous anon, but yeah that sounds totally worth it. Pricey but actually justified. Unless you just got super lucky though it also sounds like you're in a place with a decent amount of competition (not necessarily just from ranges but also outdoors). While sometimes you simply win the lottery with a range that really has developed a good culture and cares, ime in shitty states ranges average worse because they know they can be lazier since people have nowhere else to go. I think even for range enjoyers it's helpful to have competition.

>>63868820
>hehehe... I already got mine, poorfag. w-wait, you care more about everyone's constitutional rights more than <1% of land in the desert? Reeeeeeee

I don't know why you guys are so worried about the gov selling federal land. Surely some nice /k/ friendly folk with purchase it and let you shoot on it per normal

>>63865373 (OP)
I like how this thread quickly ignored OP's retard question and focused on the real potential issues

>>63870071
Membership is capped and they only open up for new applicants when previous members don't renew, once or twice a year.
Members can bring friends, but it's $10 per person for non-members.
>>63870102
I remember thinking it was a bit pricey, but having your own 50yd private pit any time is worth it.
The rifle ranges are often empty, rarely overcrowded.
I even killed a 4x4 post holding up a steel silhouette at 200yds and the TSO just gave picked on me a little.
>Well, at least you hit somethin'.
Based boomer RSO.

>>63870170
I mean, people should be informed. What's the fucking point of owning all this cool shit if the only place to shoot is either a fucking gun range or your buddies ranch? Plus a decent number of us like to go and hike/hunt/fish/shoot/offroad in really beautiful parts of the country for free! The exact parts that some rich asshole in New York or Texas wants to buy and charge you for.

>>63870288
And they aren't going to sell the shitty parts that nobody uses, they're going to sell the prime land, the stuff we'll miss the most when it becomes some fucking billionaire genxer's ranch, a fucking subdivision covered in mcmansions, or another piece of (((investment))) for foreigners or just evil boomers like bill gates.

>>63870288
>>63870302
Reminds me of all the richfags that bought a bunch of prime mountains for hiking, hunting, fishing, etc. in Wyoming, Idaho, Colorado, etc. and turned them into private helicopter skiing resorts for richfags.
They also aggressively harass and prosecute anybody that comes on the land, winter or not.
I hope the bill fails.

>>63870172
So I'll become your friend and sponge off you so I only have to pay $10 per sesh and you wear the five-hundy per month

>>63870438
>Reminds me of all the richfags that bought a bunch of prime mountains for hiking, hunting, fishing, etc. in Wyoming, Idaho, Colorado, etc. and turned them into private helicopter skiing resorts for richfags.
>They also aggressively harass and prosecute anybody that comes on the land, winter or not.
What pisses me off even more is how they ALSO have long been trying already to section off public land as their own private fiefs too. Lots of the western land is a tile grid, with alternating squares of private and public land. A richfag buys up the private squares surrounding a prime public one, then they try to keep anyone from actually accessing the public one, claiming you have to cross their land to do it and thus it's trespassing. Then they use the public land, even though it's still legally public, just for themselves and their friends.

There's been some legal setbacks on that though last few years, judges starting to be willing to stand up and say "yeah people can corner cross". I guess this fucking bill would "fix" that issue for them though by just formally letting them annex it all for pennies on the dollar.

>>63870288
That map's really opened my eyes. How come West Coast has so much but it's sparse everywhere else? (though I suppose I'm not accounting for state owned land).

Absolute sweet fuck all on the coast too. Don't they want coastal reserve land? (I suppose they still have eminent domain though).

>>63865540
>cries about housing cost
ok lets sell some BLM land that isnt used
>NOOOOO thats le bad
mkay, well here's your $2,800 900sq ft rental unit in a hustle and bustle meth town

they're not selling national park land, its land thats not in use. we have zero on the east coast and its fine. pussies

>>63870450
>You WILL pay to use roadways through privately owned land
>You WILL pay taxes to maintain privately owned land
>You WILL pay just to go hiking or enjoy the outdoors
>You WILL stay in the shitty little outdoor areas we permit you to be in, unless you pay more
>You WILL be litigated against endlessly until you are broke if you disagree with the above
The land grab by Vail Resorts is the exact kind of corporate dystopia that this bill will bring to so many other places.
>>63870458
Because West Coast is best coast. And also because much of the Eastern seaboard was already privately owned beforehand.

>>63870288
who the fuck care just give me a 1000m indoor range that prevents me from walking or hell make it outdoor and have some ATVs at the ready so people can be drove to their targets.
Hell, pay people to put up my targets KEK

They're taking the land whether this passes or not. All public land will go away in your life time and it will be destroyed, eventually including national park land. You cant vote your way out of overpopulation and over expansion. Next few generations are gonna have fun with Coruscant city hellworld.

>>63870625
Birth rates are plummeting worldwide, even shitholes like India and Africa.

>>63870625
Funny statement because the land I looked at that's being poached locally is all highly mountainous shit that cannot be widely developed, maybe at best a single cabin in the pocket of a canyon but that's it. This shit is purely for oligarchs to buy, use in winter or larp in for 2 days in spring, then collect dough from former national park goers who get fined for "trespassing"

>>63870625
>Next few generations are gonna have fun with Coruscant city hellworld
>OMG! Just like my Star Wars/Marvel/comics/vidya!
What is it with faggots and the constant need to compare everything to their favorite fantasy universe?
Literally as pathetic as the femcels "muh handmaid's tale!"

>>63870838
>This shit is purely for oligarchs to buy, use in winter
>They don't know that's when the wendigos are the hungriest

>>63870625
I see them asians and latinos building them weed farms on public land and shiii. shiii ain't been safe since open borders. they drag a nigga's girl into them underground cargo containers some real fuuuh shiii and that's on hood

>>63870850
Oh NOOO, all those fat billionaires alone in their little cabins will be so scared of the heckin boogeyman! Imagine how funny that will be to them as they fatten themselves up, how could such a silly thing exist? We would never eat someone like that, I promise.

>>63865373 (OP)
>Anti trump thread
What blew up this time?

>>63870945
>we

>>63870843
Because, you fucking niggroid shit stain, relating one thing to another thing as a way of exaggerated comparison is exceedingly human and the number one example of a planet covered entirely by a city is in Shartwars you fuckass puddle of cuntslop. Your utter rejection of millennium long language traditions because it's 'DUHRRR CRINGE' isn't going to stop a single person from comparing things to popular other things. You're probably one of the slimy tumors that bitched about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. memes for the last 15 fucking years too you joyless shit skin who's so cool because he has never once referenced popular culture. I'd tell you to kill yourself but you probably don't even own a gun.

>>63870998
>Anti Trump
Oh fuck off, This is beyond who's in the office, I don't want one of the last few things that are worth a fuck in this country to get bought up by tech millionaires and China mining companies. I can hike for free or pay like ten bucks and get to fuck around innawoods with my M1 carbine for weeks and no one will fucking bother me. Truly one of the last freedoms a man can enjoy in this place.

>>63871116
Kys grabber faggot

>>63871116
Palestine lost
Iran lost
Israel won
Trump won

>>63869352
That's literally what the Capitol Armory process does. They process the Form 4 and 4473 through a local dealer in your state and ship the firearm to your door. Everything is done remotely.

I do not actually understand how or why ATF considers this acceptable to allow a 4473 to be filled out remotely for a silencer, but not a firearm or if they would also allow it for firearms, but no one has really tried it yet. It appears to require a local CLEO notification and waiting period for the 4473 transfer in addition to the actual NFA notification.

Hope I didn't jump the gun, lads, but I made a specific thread on the pertinent topic to discuss:

>>63872016
>>63872016
>>63872016

>>63872020
Whoops, never mind thread got deleted by Mods.. Somebody should start it again BUT of course within /k/'s allowed rules. It is actually an important topic that is /k/ related for reasons I shouldn't have to explain.

>>63870091
They're still mortal.

>>63872416
reminder that /k/ mods are antigun and will delete any thread discussing gun laws

>>63870459
Hey faggot. We just want the illegals and mudskins deported. Send the blacks and browns to Africa and we won’t have housing issues anymore.

>>63869659
i'm starting to see that the indians had a point

>>63871160
>>63871172
>be demoooralized my fellow amerikanskis who are very white just like I am, who am not brown
Post hand, timestamp, and gun.

>>63870459
>>cries about housing cost
>ok lets sell some BLM land that isnt used

Anon if you think a federal land not being on the private market is at all effecting the housing market then you are without a doubt the dumbest nigger to ever post on this board

>>63869710
I don't think I'd enjoy doing them simultaneously because the sensory overload would be too much but you can do them consecutively.

>>63872483
>reminder that /k/ mods are antigun and will delete any thread discussing gun laws
This definitely isn't strictly true, some threads stay up. And the rules are inconsistently enforced, probably somewhat down to what individual mod/janny sees a thread or not. Some of it has to do too though with nature of the thread, and whether it's getting spammed. Gun laws matter, but can also turn into really bad shit throwing fests even by /k/ standards. So if a thread stays more down to earth and decent tends to stay up more, same if it is more focused on direct effects on /k/ommando lives and direct actions we can take. Ie, tons of gun law threads that are about
>what specific guns can I buy that would be most interesting given my legal situation
are always fine. Stuff about
>this specific ruling or potential law change is ongoing right now and changes the situation of anons in xyz ways, and/or you can take abc action
has ok odds of not being baleeted. Threads that get spammed or turn into /pol/fests, it varies.

>>63872798
Who'd thought that we would be the ones who get their mile taken?

>>63869706
I mean, the BBB is almost assuredly going to pass, with all of its hidden bullshit, and considering all but 1 or 2 of our congressmen are foreign-owned, there's likely fuckall we can do to stop its passage. Might as well insert a silver lining to this massive legislative rectal suppository.

I'm trying real hard not to succumb to depression and despair but holy shit then I see yet another map of places I absolutely love that puts it in perspective yet again:
>https://www.fieldandstream.com/stories/conservation/public-lands-and-waters/map-of-public-lands-for-sale-budget-bill
I hope every blood sucker who proposed and voted for this gets the rope.
>>63877745
It's in no way assured. But also a sad, sardonic lol@u if you think any of the "silver linings" are making it past the Byrd bath.

>>63878284
>The Wilderness Society's map shows that world-class hunting and fishing grounds could be sold under Lee's plan. In Colorado, for example, the organization highlights vast swaths of the Roosevelt National Forest, the Arapaho National Forest, and the Pike National Forest—just to name few. In New Mexico, it shows a massive chunk of the Carson National Forest south of Taos. In Idaho, the Clearwater National Forest, the Coeur d'Alene National Forest, the Payette National Forest, and the Boise National Forest are all on the chopping block, per the Wilderness Society Map.

>In Wyoming the maps feautures a huge section of the Teton National Forest, and there are big tracts of USFS land throughout the Pacific Northwest and in California. In Alaska, it includes large tracts within the Chugach and Tongass National Forests along with sprawling blocks of BLM further north.
What the fuck is all this? Look all the land they can sell in Idaho! This isn't shit land, this primo good Forest with awesome hunting and fishing.

>>63868960
We'll just steal back land from the indians. Most of them don't know how to develop the land anyway. It takes Italians to show them how to build casinos and Mexica s to show them how to run the kitchens. They are really just clueless, drunks, wife beaters and gangrapers.

>>63878284
Great tits national park is gonna be surrounded by richfags from Jackson kek

>>63865540
The only people who are in favor of this are east coasters. Backwards retards who think patchwork forgettable towns and farmland is better than pristine wilderness (which they have never seen before)

So the grabbers successfully found a way to get everyone who pressured for passage of the bill in the House to instantly become pro-NFA and all it took was Congress considering MAYBE selling 1% of federal land. Fuck all of you. You don't deserve any rights. You fall for every single fucking anti-gun trap they lay.

>>63882378
Thats fucking disgusting

>>63882403
this poster has never been west of the Mississippi River, except perhaps to LA via airline

>>63882403
Seething cityfag, hope you enjoy your suppressor at the shooting range, remember no rapid fire faggot.

>>63882424
>>63882428
>these retards want to pass up the once in a lifetime opportunity to gut the NFA because it involves selling off literal barren shithole land
The American spirit is about expanding and building. Your anscestors would hate you.

>>63877745
>the BBB is almost assuredly going to pass
lol

>>63882474
>You will live in the cookie cutter cuck blocks
>you will rent forever
>you will shop at Walmart, and eat McDonald's, and go shooting at your shooting range for $40 a lane an hour.
>No, you will not go camping for free, that will be $100, and no open fires, also pay the forest road toll, and discharging a firearm is a $1000 fine.
I hope the ghost of Teddy Roosevelt rapes your face hole soi enjoyer.

>>63869706
If somebody offers you $1000 to kick you in the balls, but you know you’re going to get kicked in the balls regardless, you’re a retard not to take the $1000.

>>63882474
>literal barren shithole land
It's land like half of Grand Canyon National Park smoothbrain.
>>63882554
>we can't fight anyways man
>just take it in the ass
>we can't do anything
Literal cuck, I bet you'd complain about .223 recoil if you even owned a gun

>>63882188
>What the fuck is all this? Look all the land they can sell in Idaho! This isn't shit land, this primo good Forest with awesome hunting and fishing.
Anon, dead serious here: what the fuck do you think the super rich fags paying the bribes to the GOP for this shit are after? Like, dude, of COURSE they don't want shit land, they absolutely want the primo land, for pennies on the dollar. They're fine with the shit land being left to the plebs. I'm honestly startled people thought that there'd be a big public land porkfest sell off and somehow it'd be the worst bits, not the best bits. That's never ever how it works!

>>63882403
>the lying tourist cityfag resorts to calling people "pro-NFA" for being angry about having awesome public land stolen as if the two must be linked
No, fuck you. We'll have endless more chances to get cans and SBRs off the NFA. We'll never get this land back.

>>63868820
Florida can't sink into the ocean fast enough.

>>63882474
>once in a life time
only thing once in a life time is selling land
>he thinks the nfa reductions are making it into the final law
luving
every
(l)kek

>>63882378
>>63882411
It already is. Read Billionare Wilderness 2020. This is nothing new, just now you know about it.
https://www.amazon.com/Billionaire-Wilderness-Ultra-Wealthy-Princeton-Sociology/dp/0691176671

>>63870459
supply has nothing to do with housing costs, there are all sorts of newly constructed houses around here just sitting around and they are building even more, real estate prices are not going down at all. Its all a scam for banks.

>>63870302
My understanding is that *most* of the land being sold is for oil drilling and pipeline construction. Not that that makes it any better all the land their selling are still beautiful natural sites and important ecosystems.

Arizona anons are gonna get fucked

>>63882742
Yeah, they might lose less than one percent of that. Totally fucked.

>>63883193
more like 99%

>>63870829
Yes this is the justification they are using to import tens of millions of sub 90iq turdies to keep line going up

>>63865540
>trash pit shooters betraying everyone else because they're too cheap to buy their own land or get a private range

>>63882729
Tell me you live in an urban blue shithole without telling me.

>>63882683
You're incredibly self centered. You only care about your local sand pit be real. Bet youve never camped in a national park.

>>63865540
how about you yanks civilize yourself and institute freedom to roam so you wouldn't have to care about shit like this

>>63882683
If the Republicans want to sell off land, it will absolutely happen, even if this bill were to fail. Convincing the house to add the hpa and short act, BARELY getting it through the house, and getting it past the rhinos in congress is a once in a lifetime accomplishment. These unconstitutional laws have been around for almost 100 years and have led to countless raids and who knows how many deaths.

>>63869762
>faggot immediately thinks of gay shit instead of an actual argument
pottery

>>63882730
So dont shoot the pipes and oil rigs?
Fucking KEK'D

>>63884451
Because we can already freely roam you stupid eurocuck, just because you people destroyed all your forests doesnt mean we would be ok with it.

>>63885590
You have no idea what that term means do you

>not my heckn BLM land!
I've seen what you people do to federal land. Turning it into a Walmart is hardly a loss. It's the tragedy of the commons to a T.

>>63886013
Cherry picking. The BLM land I recreate on is kept clean.

>>63886066
>le no true scotsman
Target shooters are right behind offroaders in how much they rape public land. It's a prime example of how people treat things they don't own.
>inb4 we all own it!
Then why do you treat it like a dump? Giving something to someone for free is a surefire way for that thing to be destroyed. The same is doubly true for land. They should charge to enter BLM land at a minimum. Ideally they would lease it out in chunks for exclusive use maybe in 5 or 10 year intervals. I bet you there wouldn't be any trash pits in National Forests if you have to pay a lease to use a chunk of acerage.

>>63886137
>>63886013
>imagine shilling against shooting on blm land
Im convinced trump has given the glowies scripts to further the gop agenda items

>>63886137
>Then why do you treat it like a dump?
I don't.

>>63886184
Its crazy how schizophrenic the narrative has to be to make your worldview not fall apart.

>>63886137
>>63886013
>some people are abusing it so nobody should be allowed to
faggot
Same exact logic as
>nigger ganbangers are constantly killing each other so you shouldn't have guns
Kill yourself, gungrabber

>>63885599
If im gonna roam around land I want to roam around ALL the land, i dont want to run into some assholes backyard or need his permission to shoot game animals, or even just shoot my guns. You I think I just walk around and pick berries and camp?

>>63886718
Then don't walk into someone's back yard, retard.

>>63887078
Wow, amazing anon, you've got some real smart ideas

ATTENTION BLACKPILL SHILLS
THE LAND SALE SECTION WAS STRUCK FROM THE BILL
YOU NOW HAVE NO REASON NOT TO SUPPORT IT UNLESS YOU ARE ANTI-GUN AND PRO-NFA
Carry on

When the fuck are they going to repeal the commiefornia suppressor ban bullshit

>>63890814
Bigly true
Pump my fucking bags

>>63890814
>UNLESS YOU ARE ANTI-GUN AND PRO-NFA
It was the (((I already got mine))) crowd, so they're still against the bill.

>>63890814
*sighs* I guess I will settle for a 500k starter house

>>63891612
>implying that selling half the grand canyon to Mark Zuckerberg would lower housing prices
lel
Might as well just save up to buy an AA12 now.

>>63890814
>>63890855
>>63891612
WRONG, it was limited to land within 5 miles of developed land, which is A HUGE FUCKING PORTION OF IT. I'm tired of you selfish little fucks shilling for the orange retard, kys kike

>>63893339
iran lost shitskin, that land belongs to the israeli global union and you know it

>>63893339
Orange man bad isn't the one putting pork in the bill, retard.

>>63893339
Nearly all federal land in the lower 48 is within 5 miles of some kind of development. I live two miles from national forest, and there are little towns pocketed into the forest all over the place. If you were to sell off all the forest within 5 miles of developed land, that would be literally the entire forest.

The federal land sales have already been removed from BBB, short and hpa are still holding on

We're all gunna make it bros

>>63886013
I lived next to a beautiful reservoir and people would just come and dump just mountains of trash when they went to swim and hike. Now they put up a giant ugly fence and that shit all ended. Sucks but I prefer it over the littering.

>>63865540
The gun regulation shit only applies to people who choose to comply with it, anyway.

>>63894285
>telling obvious lies
what blew up this time?

>>63882742
Are you fucking kidding me, they're going to sell off coconino national forest? That's one of the OG conservationist forests...

>>63894285
Why the hell are you just telling lies like that?

>>63882531
Incredibly based post

>>63894228
>Orange man’s bill isn’t orange man’s responsibility!
Is this like when Obama called Obamacare the ACA when he figured out it was an unpopular boondoggle?
Fucking hell. Blind eye to Russia, stupid Iranian adventures, unpopular pork filled shitbills, Trump’s second term really is just Obama’s greatest hits.

>>63865540
I’m with this anon.

>>63865540
We could just ask for Republicans to make a clean bill with NFA deregulation and fight for that as hard as they’re fighting for the orange man pork bill-pfffffthahahhahaha sorry I couldn’t hold it in anymore.

>>63897547
>and then i said "an AK-47 is not a sporting weapon nor needed for defense of a home."