Best Way To Spend Money - /k/ (#63866833) [Archived: 925 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:04:06 PM No.63866833
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My wife and I have a cabin in a relatively safe area from potential nuclear strikes or hazard.

I've always planned on putting a shit load of money into survival shit and food storage up there, but lately it's among like it's a better and better idea. My wife is a med student, so I have a pretty good idea of medical supplies to grab.

As far as other shit, what would you recommend that I'm missing?

So far I'm thinking...
2-3 AR's, one 14"-16", one 10.5"

1 AR-10 in .308

Optics for all 3, red dots and magnifiers for the first two, red dot and mid range for AR 10
Lights for all 3

Precision rifle in .338 Norma Mag or .338 Lapua
Leupold optic
Range finder

Quad band radios (would learning mesh shit be more useful?) What other things would you recommend here?

Level 4 ceramics and carriers

I want a ghillie suit, I still have all my OCP's, glasses, gloves and boots from the Army.

Shit loads of REI freeze dried and canned food, etc. several types of water purification.
CBRN stuff like masks, duct tape, chemical and geiger, tarp, potassium iodide.

We have a generator, books, movies, board games, cards, thousands of rounds of 5.56, .308, 30-06, 9mm, .45. About 12 other guns (mostly boomer shit I got from my dad but an LWRC piston AR, Beretta 92x, a few other more useful pistols and carbines, ropes, knives.

I've got a pretty decent machine shop up there, a tractor, shit for welding.

Anything else I'm too retarded to remember? What would you recommend?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:33:17 PM No.63866929
Nothing is going to happen. Your "bug out" fantasy of surviving a nuclear war is and always will remain a fantasy.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:35:06 PM No.63866935
>>63866929
Nothing ever happens faggot, that's not the point. The fuck are you doing on a board specific designated for this kind of shit if not to be a massive faggot? Know your place.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:39:45 PM No.63866947
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>>63866935
> What other things would you recommend here?
friends and shitloads of them, also the skill to make friends wherever you go.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:25:20 PM No.63867199
>>63866833 (OP)
I would recommend looking into fallout shelter designs and requirements. Archive.org has a lot of resources. Especially studying things like protection factors and skyshine and geometric shielding, etc. Then look at a year of food storage and start gardening to justify keeping a large seed bank every year. Why one year? Because depending on the time of year of the attack, crops for that year may fail or be dangerous to eat. Water storage is also a primary concern - at least 6 months worth would be prudent. Simple filtration systems can remove most of the remaining dangerous particles, if necessary. The more you understand about fallout, the easier it is to spot bad information. For example, many shelters both DIY and commercial have straight ladder tubes for entrances. These will create dangerous hot zones in your shelter. Read books written by people who know what they're talking about, and watch every old civil defense film on fallout from the US, UK and Canada.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:26:23 PM No.63867206
>>63866833 (OP)
You may think that your location is safe from substantial fallout. There's no guarantee. Fallout travels on the wind, and in a large exchange multiple groundbursts can create fallout plumes in the 1000rad range for hundreds of miles. Go plugin the current Chinese weapons at nukemap, set to groundburst, and turn on the fallout option. Look at the real US government fallout maps from the cold war - if you live 900 miles downwind from an ICBM installation you're cooked unless you have a minimum 3-4ft of concrete between you and the outside world.

The Chinese have some 600 warheads, many in the 3 to 5 megaton range - and their arsenal is growing. There are 346 cities in the United States with a population of 100,000 or more. Hundreds of nuclear explosions and the resulting firestorms are likely to alter or strengthen normal weather patterns. You're not guaranteed to be safe from fallout regardless of where you live.

Lastly, if you live in the woods you should already have cut in large fire breaks to protect your property. Without anyone to control them and depending on the time of year, fires could rage unchecked for thousands of miles. Yes, thousands. Just some things to consider.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:45:54 PM No.63867288
>>63866833 (OP)
The fallout threat we face today is similar to the threat faced in the early 1960s. People laugh at civil defense instructions from the early 1950s, but fail to understand that the number of bombs and the power of most of those bombs were both smaller. As arsenals grew, the threat in the 60s grew but for most prepared people was still survivable. Arsenals expanded to stupidly high numbers of warheads in the 70s and 80s - when the anti-nuke movement peaked in the early 80s, surviving a total nuclear exchange would have been very difficult - shelters would still work, but the resulting ecological nightmare following an exchange would have been nearly impossible even for relatively well-prepared civilians. After the Cold War as stockpiles decreased, the survivability of an exchange increased. Civil defense has become relevant again, but because of the rhetoric of the 1980s most people think doing anything to protect themselves is pointless. This sentiment is objectively untrue.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:08:51 PM No.63867370
>>63866833 (OP)
Remember that all these things have a limited shelf life and need proper storage to protect against moisture, oxygen and pests.

Overall plan for the hurricane Katrina natural disaster and other probable disasters for your area to include utility disruption flooding and mudslides. Also use your vaction cabin for vacations.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:20:57 PM No.63867406
>>63866833 (OP)
Remember whatever you decide, most shit needs maintenance and when you store food, you're supposed to be eating and rotating.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:37:57 PM No.63867465
>>63866833 (OP)
Break it into categories
>Water
Store as much as you can, obviously.
Can you drill a well or set up rainwater collection from the roof?
Regarding water purification, physical filters won't work against viruses and most chemicals don't do shit against giardia or crypto.
>Food
Rice, beans, oats, honey and other shelf-stable staples would be my priority over freeze-dried meals or MREs.
Stock hot sauce, onions sauce, herbs, spices (like fuck I want to spend weeks eating plain rice and approaching-rotten venison)
Whey protein powder is underrated (Multi-year shelf-life as far as nutrient quality goes, flavor degrades after a year or two past the use-by).
Cooking gear, obviously.
>Security
Guns etc you've covered
12g tripwire alarms
Trail cams, motion sensors or wired cctv over obvious approaches if you've got power for it.
>Medical
Sorted
>Navigation and Comms
Make sure you've got a good topo map of the area. And topo maps and road atlases of the approach. Go through the maps and add any useful additions (hospitals/clinics, gas stations, roads vulnerable to flooding, etc)
>Tools
Solar panels - Something small and cheap will be enough to keep your radio, phone and batteries charged without using the generator. Something larger but still affordable will let you run a small fridge for food, occasional fans or heaters for comfort and potentially cctv or small security system (one of my mates has set up meshtastic and a motion sensor to alert him whenever anyone turns onto the road to his hunting cabin).
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:21:53 PM No.63867646
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>>63866833 (OP)
Ditch the plastic guns and tactical costumes sonny. All you need is a shotgun, a rifle, and a 4 wheel drive.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:42:14 PM No.63867724
You are a loot crate
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:46:14 PM No.63867988
>>63867724
That's one of the cool things about living in a high fallout area - retards like you who are incapable of learning or listening become the walking dead. In a week or two you'd become physically helpless, and even with assistance and care you'd all be dead in 4 to 6 weeks. It's really hard to assault a bunker when your organ tissues are all failing to hold together.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:33:15 PM No.63868189
>>63866833 (OP)
About 5k rounds for every gun you get. Get a .22lr collapsible rifle for small game, or a 12ga with birdshot, or both. Unless you're going after elk or moose, I wouldn't worry about the 308. Get a deer rifle, much cheaper. Or just get good shooting 556 and forgo the deer rifle. Or just use 12ga slugs and buckshot, or cut your birdshot shells. You need to brush up on bushcrafting, that should be your priority. Cartridge casings can be used to start a fire quickly, but shotgun shells are easier to cut open.

If you haven't caught on, just get a shotgun
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:36:17 PM No.63868206
>>63866833 (OP)
For ceramics roll Hesco 4403s unless you can swing the scratch for 4601s, Highcom 4S16s, LTC 26605s, 26310s. Avoid RMA and anything not on the NIJ compliant product list for starters.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:25:14 PM No.63868792
>>63867206
I was stationed at a NORAD facility for awhile and got to learn a lot about dispersal rates and pretty advanced CBRN stuff fortunately. Ironically my dad bought this cabin and it is quite literally the safest location in the US. As far as sheltering, currently operational enemy warheads won't leave any extensive fallout so 3 weeks to 2 months in shelter do I believe most people over plan (just my opinion).
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:46:43 AM No.63869912
>>63867724
I was 11b and had almost finished my 18d course by the time I was medically discharged. I can promise that every faggot who says this doesn't understand combat and will likely end up being my twink sex slave.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:49:04 AM No.63869923
>>63866833 (OP)
308 is all you need
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:54:41 AM No.63869943
>>63869923
Honestly if I was going on pure necessity, I'd stick with my 30-06, but it's also a fun excuse to buy shit I've always wanted but couldn't justify.