How hard is it to spot a camouflaged person from the air without using thermals?

>>63871752 (OP)
Camouflage works horizontaly but not vertically

Like how do you get rid of a shadow?

>>63871810
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countershading

>>63871840

>>63871752 (OP)
Depends on the terrain. On a mostly flat field or a salt pan there's no hiding. Innawoods even with thermals a guy that knows what he's doing can hide from you. I'd wager the trick is to spot movement or that something changed when it shouldn't have. If you notice a bush isn't where it was an hour ago that's probably your man, but with so much to keep track of as long as the target is slow and methodical about it there's just too much to keep track of for your average normie.

>>63871810
Upright you don't. You change it to not be human shaped and stay still or move slowly enough the recon plane might not notice that one bush moved 100 yards or just wait for the plane to fuck off while continuing to pretend to be a rock or bush.
Laying prone and not moving it's insanely easy provided you have something to cover yourself with, once again, to change the shape.

>>63871844
Say its a predator drone from 7km up, and its a guy in a desert lying flat with a tarp over himself.
Is it going to spot it without using thermals?

>>63872034
meant for>>63871912

>>63871844
This doesn't work at all. The deer is immediately drawing your attention because of how dark it is. Nowhere near to >>63871753

>>63872040
>This doesn't work at all.
You should write nature and let it know it's been doing a billion years of natural selection wrong.

>>63871753
Where is it?

>>63872053
>You should write nature and let it know it's been doing a billion years of natural selection wrong.
Dumb nigger, I AM a product of natural selection. In the first fucking split-second before I could even understand what I was looking at, my eyes were drawn into that deer. Before my conscious mind could comprehend what I was looking at, my eyes were focused predatorily on the beast in that picture; with zero comprehension of what it actually was, yet my gaze locked onto it through sheer natural disposition.
This is the exact opposite purpose of camouflage.

>>63872054

>>63872067
Its supposed to work at a distance,
And it does that well past set number of meters, predators need to get closers to animal that have earing much sharper than yours.

>>63872081
>Its supposed to work at a distance,
It doesn't. If you can immediately spot it in a photo, it does not work at distance either.
You can literally look at the thumbnail, and the first place your gaze will be attracted to is the deer itself.
It is obviously not a functional camo.

>>63872090
>itself
I take it you didn't notice the other two?

>>63872090
My guess is that it works like Tigers stripes,
The animal it supposed to work against cant see bichromic,
Tetrachromatic reindeer can see wolf better than thermals would in daylight for example

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>>63872067
Lol

>>63872163
That's a dogshit picture for whatever point you were trying to make, since the first thing your eyes latch onto is the person in the image.
With actual, properly done camo images, you can't spot the guy in them from the thumbnail.

>>63871844
Also
having features such as flanges or a flattened body to reduce or hide the shadow

>>63872089
Hiding in trees is cheating because humans, as descendants of apes, don't generally view "up" as containing threats if it's not open sky.
>nature can't cheat
Yes she can and she's very, very good at it.

>>63872040
>>63872067
>>63872090
>the deer
>that deer
>the beast
>it
That's a lot of singulars for a picture with multiple animals in it. Your super duper evolved apex predator brain 100% got its ass kicked by countershadowing
> with zero comprehension of what it actually was
Yeah, no shit. Ibexes aren't deer, dude.

>>63872237
*Countershading
It's early. Sue me.

>>63872237
>the deer
Is plural, you benchod bitch.

>>63872447
>it's plural
Yeah just like that deer

>>63872054
Too late, you're already dead.

>>63872489
>that deer
Was written in the context of the singular most eye-catching deer, i.e. the one that's most visible even in the thumbnail.
If that deer wasn't there, then the one at the bottom would take it's place as "that deer."

>>63872034
Probably not if the tarp's the right colors, not laid square, and not reflective. Hard edges and angles are explicitly something humans are good at spotting. We're good at spotting that because that's a sign of other humans. Also not exactly hard to spot ye olde blue tarp in a sea of tan and brown. In the end it's going to mostly depend on how focused in the operator is or if it's got an AI assisting in spotting anomalies. Is the drone specifically hunting tarp man or is he just in the area the drone happens to be flying over at the moment?

Nail that sticks out gets hammered. Don't be a nail.

>>63872447
>The deer are
is plural
>The deer is
is singular

Which one did you write?

In winter and dim lighting modern snow camo can be absolutely frighteningly good. I have seen it a lot with my own eyes. Picrel is not even fully camouflaged, but trust me, when standing still, you can stay next to your tent's door and people only notice you if you are having a cigarette.

>>63873244
aaand forgot the picture.

>>63872090

>>63871752 (OP)
depends on how much spraypaint i have access to.

>>63872447
Then you should have conjugated the verb to reflect that

>>63871752 (OP)
The first time i went playing airsoft inawoods i had the craziest eyeopening experience
>uphill
>move up toward structure to engage red team in the "valley" below me
>get smoked
>tired as absolute dogshit and just take a breather laying there
>the bush next to me starts fucking talking "yo bro are you hit"
>i was looking in his direction for a solid 20 seconds and this motherfucker just materializes infront of my eyes as he steps out of his cover
yo i dont think you'll spot somebody who knows what he is doing, at least not deliberatly, maybe if the stress of having to move isnt there yeah maybe. On a side note, airshit is fun and will bring a smile on your face if you play with a similar interests having bro

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>>63871752 (OP)
Have you ever been in an airplane and used mk1 eyeballs? Anyone making an attempt not to be seen is going to be very difficult to see.

>>63871752 (OP)
Mate of mine is a blackhawk pilot. Said it's basically impossible to spot someone standing still under a tree.

>>63872237
>>63871844
oh shit there's THREE of them (or more)
gotta admit I only saw the one on the right the first time before closing the image

>>63873439
based grammar policer. we need more people like you

>>63874572
>the bush next to me starts fucking talking "yo bro are you hit"
Did it then burst into flames and start calling you Moses?

>>63872089
>Jimbo, get the Blackhawk

>>63871844
is this more than the 3 deer?
there has to be something else because the deer were too easy to spot
the cats took forever for me to find in the others

>>63872081
>>63872089
googar :DDD

>>63871753
>looking for a guy in camouflage
>sees the doomkitty
Fuck me, I had a visceral reaction to that jumpscare. Evolution is wild shit.

>>63871752 (OP)
If it's Carl Car Windows you just leave him alone, he's harmless.

>>63878555
that's how I know I would die, my first instinct was to say kitty and wanting to pet it.

>>63872176
the tail gives it away.

>>63878854
Had to cheat and look up the answer on this one.

>>63878854
KITTY!

>>63871753
This one tripped me up because I sincerely thought that it was taken much closer than it was. Once I got an idea of the scale involved, scanning >>63878854 and seeing the loping kitty was easy.