Reminder that Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill (Act)puts a fuckload of federal land up for sale.

Land you are currently allowed to go fishing, hiking, hunting and shooting your guns on.

It had been previously discussed in this thread: >>63865373

"The Senate Energy & Natural Resources Committee budget reconciliation bill text released June 11, and updated June 14, includes a range of extraordinary giveaways aimed at privatizing public lands and advancing energy dominance at the expense of public lands and resources".

A source: https://www.wilderness.org/articles/media-resources/250-million-acres-public-lands-eligible-sale-senr-bill

Also, https://www.reddit.com/r/climbing/comments/1lelf70/senr_bill/ (oh look, I posted a reddit thread)

>>63872016 (OP)
You get what you fuckin' deserve.

>>63872018
In what way?

>>63872016 (OP)
Yeah trump is retarded. That land is in the middle of nowhere and if partitioned for sale 90% of it will be landlocked for a century since the state would have to fight and eminent domain access via roads to the sold parcels. They won't do that since it's all in bunfuck anyway btw.

It's nothing but a humiliation ritual where foreigners buy up a significant portion of our country to deny us access.

Fantastic now I can watch smug leftoids and spics on the coastal states lose the one thing they had going for them. Don't worry though anon, you can still get your dick chopped off

>>63872016 (OP)
Watch as the Chinese buy that land.

Trump's master plan is to burn through every bit of accumulated big of US credibility, and mortgage the country's future recklessly, for tiny tactical victories and internet updoots because he doesn't give a fuck what happens after he's gone.

Peak self-interested cynicism.

>>63872046
They absolutely will. It's unacceptable. The land isn't even usable for the American people in it's sold state even for private enterprise.

It's a pure humiliation ritual.

>>63872057
Just looks at him on whatever twitter variant he uses, he's a doddering old man who only cares about his ego and would gladly sell the entire country out for his own benefit.

>>63872016 (OP)
I can't wait to MAGA to show up itt and tell us why selling your children's birthright for a bowl of porridge is good actually.

>>63872045
this retard thinks only coastal states gonna lose land
lel le maos

>>63872024
America voted for this. Suck it up and get on with your life.

>>63872045
>now I can watch smug leftoids and spics on the coastal states lose the one thing they had going for them

Which was?

>>63872064
Won't American Billionaires buy it?

>>63872016 (OP)
>extraordinary giveaways
Sounds like honest traditional right-wing capitalism to me :^)

>>63872045
>Coastal states
>Nevada

>>63872080
Lol, that's a bit of a fatalist sentiment, is it not?

Weapons?

>>63872080
Kamala would have done better?

>>63872074
Oh sorry, I meant all of the shit holes west of the Mississippi. Enjoy no access :)

>>63872106
Hard for her to have done worse.

>>63872104
Shootan land that you shoot your guns on. Is that not /k/ related?

>>63872097
Whoops, who could forget a crap state like Nevada. Hopefully the chinks make it hard to access BLM land with their buys.

>>63872026
>foreigners
realistically it will be american farms, corporations, rich people, but they will deny you access just the same.

in my home country (austria) most land is privately owned, which is indeed a big problem when you want to go inawoods to do stuff there. we have huge problems with land owners blocking hiking trails, bike trails, parking, camping etc. and hunting is pretty much a rich people hobby here, because the land owners do not let other people hunt freely on their land.

>>63872106
Pretty sure she wouldn't be trying to unban asbestos for no reason.

>>63872094
No it's being sold to open it up for exploitation via mining, oil, and resource extraction. It's not going to be parceled up into little house on the prairie homesteads it's going to be large acreages.

Only foreign governments have the kind of resources necessary to access and exploit these areas on the short timescale they want to property sold at. It's sub 1 year for millions of acres sold. The deal is honestly probably already done but I'm still going to write my congressman to oppose it (fat chance as a Texan).

Hate this scumbag shit.

>>63872057
So what you're saying is that Trump is a manifestation of all things Boomer?

>>63872111
Would Bernie have done better?

>now I can buy land and have it all to myself
whats the problem?

>>63872129
They're not going to be selling it off in 50 acre chunks.

>>63872119
It'll be the Chinese. American companies imo can't raise the capital needed that quickly. It's supposed to be sold off a year after the bill is signed which is insane. That'd have to be near same day or same week they get surveyed on these properties.

>>63872124
Yeah that stupid piece of shit selling off dirt to float for another year.

>>63872119
Damn. Sorry to hear that Österreicher bro.

Is it Sweden or Finland that have laws that let people have the right to camp (not necessarily hunt) on privately owned (rural) land within conditions?

>>63872129
You can't buy it. China will be using your money to buy up everything they used your tax dollars to survey and mark as valuable before the sale though.

Disgusting.

>>63872122
Its literally selling off the country's future to foreign exploiters, just like siding with foreign countries abroad against American interests.

>>63872125
yes. he is a leftist without the leftist bullshit.

>>63872129
>oligarchs can buy land and have it all to themselves
You are not a factor. Trumpy did this for his financial backers. Also, your national parks will be bulldozed and strip mined for all they're worth.

>>63872121
It's really bloody good at insulating heat and not starting fires.

>>63872140
B...but Trump called him a commie!?

>>63872106
You get what you deserve.
If both choice suck, it's because you don't deserve a good choice.

>>63872098
The people voted for this. If you disagree, get more people to vote the other way the next time and get these actions reversed. That's what you do in a democracy. Blubbing about it on a pot making forum won't change anything.

>>63872016 (OP)
Posting map from the other thread

>>63872106
She would not be selling federal land straight up. Republican dipshits would've opposed it as hard as they suck Trump's cock for selling it. Plus on the West Coast touching fed land is a politically suicidal issue none of the Dems there would support it.

This bill never would have happened.

>>63872136
i know it from norway.

>>63872156
Oh wait it hurts those that I hate more? Can we sell more?

>>63872150
>The way democracy works is that the president can do whatever they want without dissent and if you don't agree you have to wait silently until the next four year election cycle comes up

>>63872166
Contrarians need to hang. Literally just a blight on the human race.

>>63872166
It hurts you as an American. Leftists wanting public land isn't a bad thing. Leftists breath air, you going to stop doing that too?

They're 100% right about this being a retarded decision. This is the Louisiana Purchase in reverse. Only a moron would support the Chinese strip mining our country.

Plus didn't that stupid fuck just try and buy Greenland anyway? Now he's selling land? It's retarded.

>>63872177
It's okay, you can still smoke pot kiddo

>>63872166
>By selling the bounty providence has bestowed upon our people to BlackRock for pennies on the dollar we will be owning the libs

>>63872156
Have Democrats ever sold fed land?

>>63872180
Well hopefully Trump can roll back EPA protections and bully the states own environmental laws to snatch the clean air from them as well

>>63872136
Well here in Finland you can harvest berries, fruits, mushrooms and such everywhere except house yards. Killing animals with guns in private lands requires the permission of the owner while paying a small sum of money and invitation to the meat party.

>>63872180
the land is useless. Greenland is an important as it offers an arctic base to counter china

>>63872166
Are you even from the west? Have you seen it? I still remember seeing the open prairie for the first time as an inner DC kid. It's a life-changing experience.

>>63872189
Probably? I know tribal land has changed hands a few times.

I will say leftists are super spergs about limiting access but that's a separate issue. I've never met one that's opposed to public land though.

>>63872180
>Plus didn't that stupid fuck just try and buy Greenland anyway? Now he's selling land? It's retarded.
He's a senile flipflopper, he'll say/do something completly retarded then turn around and do something the opposite of it (but still retarded).

>>63872180
>Plus didn't that stupid fuck just try and buy Greenland anyway?

Not the guy you're replying to, but the Greenland thing issue 'slightly' different and wasn't such a bad idea even if he presented it in a bad way, (tactically at least, we are /k/ after all)

>>63872016 (OP)
This is the most blatant shilling I have seen in a looong time.

>>63872198
Well, at least the 1/6th natives and lobbyists get all the big bucks from their casinos; while the actual natives get drunk and beat their wives on their rezzes

When did this place become faggot liberal land? Are you all you NAFO war tourists slurping up NGO agitprop?

>>63872026
>Trump
You're not American or if you are you should be stripped of your citizenship and deported. Reason: idiocy.

>>63872213
Shilling for whom?

>>63872197
>It's useless
Correct. Why is that? Because we passed laws preventing the exploitation of the natural resources contained therein to protect its natural beauty for future generations. It IS arbitrarily useless due to past generations putting aside their greed and gifting it to us. That doesn't mean the land has no value.

>>63872204
I'd love a Greenland purchase. It should be a big ass park up north. This doesn't change the fact that it's retarded to say this land is worthless while wanting to buy frozen tundra to dick measure with.

>>63872220
>Nooo dont pass BBB and get a right-wing wishlist passed a Senator has a proposed amendment that hasn't been voted on

Much like trannies, you will never pass.

>>63872213
What do you mean, this is a totally organic and natural Trump Hate General with people openly pining for Kamala Harris on the gun board.

>>63872216
They’re faggot liberal but also really gung ho quasi interventionist , I suspect many of them are unironically glowies

>>63872216
Oh, the times, they are a changin'

>>63872216
>Don't want Chinese govt owned megacorps stripmining land your ancestors set aside for recreation a century ago
>What are you sum kind of libtard?!
No but you are lmao.

>>63872226
Good it should be shilled so people email their reps and oppose this retarded bill.

>>63872219
>Anyone who says a negative word about the Great Leader should be deported
Tell me this is sarcasm.

>>63872216
Environmentalism (which isn't the whole issue) isn't exclusivity limited to 'faggot liberals'...

>>63872229
>should be shilled so people email their reps and oppose this retarded bill
It's not in the bill. It's a proposed amendment. Curious you oppose the bill and not the amendment.

>>63872225
Why wouldn't the bill pass?

>>63872016 (OP)
Isn’t this more of and /out/ thing?

>>63872236
>Anyone who says a negative word about the Great Leader
I've seen you clowns make this argument a thousand times almost exactly verbatum.

>>63872238
You're right, but if a few million acres need to be sacrificed so more redditors kill themselves, then so be it

>>63872243
You won't pass as an organic /k/commando.

>>63872244
You mean as in it has nothing whatsoever to do with weapons?

>>63872245
Maybe its because you keep saying to people we should treat a president like he's the leader of Norkland or other 2nd/3rd world shithole

>>63872238
Environmentalism is liberal coded. Conservation is based coded. Two very different concepts.

>>63872257
Never said that, what i said is
>You're not American
And the response you made was the classic shill response.

>>63872225
>noo you're supposed to like seeing the natural splendor of this nation raped by fags like Bill Gates to set up more Amazon warehouses. Be happy you're losing more land to shoot, camp, and hunt on. Aren't cans the greatest?
The cans are a really delicious cherry atop a shit sandwich, the carrot they dangle in the face of people like you so they can fuck you over. People like you and I shouldn't have to accept such a raw deal, we ought to have over the counter suppressors AND public land to shoot it on

>>63872244
No you're not allowed to talk about shooting on public land there.
>>63872248
>I'm going to get fucked in the ass by China to own the libs!
>We need to drill a hole in a polar bears skull so my Uber jeets order gets delivered ASAP!
>Hunting and long range shooting in America's wide open prairies that my ancestors gifted to me? What kinda gay shit is that?!
Just say you hate America and don't care about anything but getting yours. It's ok this isn't Facebook noone will know.

>>63872261
Okay, idiot, maybe read my post again.

>>63872222
>giving a shit about future generations

Nogunz detected. Post hand.

To add some needed context to the bill. The Government holds about 640 million acres, mostly administered by 5 agencies, BLM, Forestry Service, Fish and Wildlife, and DoD. BLM and Forestry administer most land and already allow resource extraction, but with limited input from the locals, since these decisions are made in D.C.

The Senate proposal is to identify 240 acres that are the most ripe for sale, and authorizes up to 3 million acres to be sold. State governments have the right of first refusal on sales.

Shilling against this cropped up inorganically in the last few days. Im assuming in an effort by the DNC torpedo the opposition's signature legislative accomplishment. You can see the shills buzzing in thks thread with canned lines and dogshit takes that seem air-dropped a reddit or bluesky.

>not a single person in this thread blaming the real scumbag from Utah Mike Lee who proposed it
>multiple "people" blaming trump

>>63872260
I'm not the original anon you were talking to, you said something so fucked couldn't believe it was a legit post which drew my comment

>>63872264
The proposed sale is 1% of federal land you collosal faggot. The sale is dumb, but the middle-aged-woman-tier theatrics is fucking cringe.

>>63872258
Treating everything as if its "Us or Them" is retardation and why things are so fucked these days.

>>63872274
>you said something so fucked
No, you're the original anon and you dropped your canned "No Kings!" line.

>>63872269
Bingo

>>63872277
Not when you've seen what "they" do.

>>63872275
>It's only 1% goy
No thanks. I'll take 100% of my birthright containing the largest gun range in the entire world, bigger than most people's countries, and not give a single dirt clump to Chinese "investors."

>>63872269
So state governments can refuse to allow the sale?
Okay this whole thing is a nothingburger then

>>63872277
For them, it is us or them. Either play or get played. Simple as.

>>63872229
I already emailed my reps (Rand Paul, Thomas Massie, 2/5 in either chamber that aren't already completely on board) and told them both that the deficit doesn't matter in the face of removing suppressors, SBRs, and SBSs from the NFA. The uniparty is going to spend the country into a complete fiscal meltdown whether their votes hold it up for a little bit or not, so I told them that getting in the way of the biggest federal legislative gun victory ever would be terrible.

>>63872269
Lying faggot it's 3 million in the first YEAR as a stated sold go and up to 250million authorized.

You know it's shit so you won't even be honest about it fuckin over Americans.

>>63872269
Up to 3? That's a lot less awful, I'll give you that. I just hope this doesn't open the door for that whole 240 to get sold off because that'd suck

>>63872281
>>It's only 1%
It's actually 0.75%

>>63872287
>Oh no 0.75%

>>63872282
>So state governments can refuse to allow the sale?
No. It means they have the right to buy the land first before its sold to other parties. If they choose not to, it can be sold to whoever.

>>63872278
Or maybe people are naturally programmed to see everything as a pattern and look for reasons to dismiss anything they disagree with.

>>63872292
>We're partioning off this land for sale but totally won't sell it even though we're identifying based on saleability and authorizing its sale
LMAO delusional there nfw you believe this. You're probably a RNC bot.

>>63872292
>It's only a pound of flesh

>>63872264
Uber eats is for poors and retards. Gay ass sex with the Chinks is more of a libtard thing. Hunting on prairies is cool. I hate the brown masses that people like you have invited in with open arms. At this point it's better to literally poison the land so that leftist dont inherit shit

>>63872292
You are literally just a shill trying to downplay selling off american land to foreigners so wannabe-oligarchs can cash in at the common mans expense.

>>63872300
Your thread is off topic and if the jannies here weren't more worried about ensuring /meg/ pulls as many impressionable young kids to fight for Israel this thread would've been nuked in minutes. Fuck off.

>>63872287
No it doesn't. It authorizes 2 million acres over 5 years and 3 million total, you disingenuous faggot.

The federal government is a dogshit steward of the land, and can do whatever they want to it regardless of local opinion. They nuked nevada 87 times and there wasn't a fucking thing you could do about if you lived there. Giving land back to state sovereignty is a good thing not bad thing.

>>63872300
>>63872306
>No ur a shill
Okay, post guns.

>>63872195
>invitation to the meat party
Go on

>>63872300
>You're probably a RNC bot.
What a very odd and specific thing to say.

>>63872326
They also have lemon parties. Google it.

>>63872318
You next.
>>63872305
>I want to burn down the country to own the libs
>Youre my enemy because you oppose the guy I voted for
I voted for trump 3 times but he's a fucking clown. Red flag laws, suppressors, strip mining our nation for the Chinese. Everything he does is just a NPD humiliation ritual on a national scale. You're blind.
>>63872309
>You're not getting fucked that bad!
Link is in OP. Not fooling anyone.

>>63872342
>No timestamp