Will this reliably kill someone? Like if a junkie charges me at a gas station and I shoot him 8 times will he drop?

>>63896791 (OP)
Yuh man

>>63896791 (OP)
Depends on shot placement and bullet tech. A gut shot isn't going to stop them. You would have to hit vitals. If you can't carry expanding or fragmenting hollow points because of legality, get some of the fluted defender rounds from lehigh or underwood.

>>63896791 (OP)
Nah the fent makes them immune, you have to use 50cal+.

>>63896791 (OP)
No actually, it's basically not even a gun at all. The bullets will simply bounce off of the junkie's skin and harmlessly fall to the floor.

>>63896791 (OP)
approximately half of the time that will work, the other half of the time no.
>mousegun calibers, not even once

>>63896791 (OP)
>Will this reliably kill someone?
Just Germans mostly, most Europeans haven't really developed the immunity to smaller caliber rounds that Americans have.

>>63896791 (OP)
you can shoot him 8 times with a 9mm & he won't drop
hit your shot, and even a .22lr will end them in an instant
.32 acp works perfectly fine for defense if you're not dogshit, and winging them in the arm

>>63896791 (OP)
If you someone with .32 ACP it will just make them horny

>>63896791 (OP)
Fuck ya
mudda

>>63896791 (OP)
Yes, there's a reason it's been around for well over 100 years and still available. Is it the best? No. But it is certainly adequate. Shot placement is more important with the smaller calibers, and the HP ammo is not as good, but it still works. If you're dealing with a junkie, dump the whole mag to make sure get the full dose of pain. Headshots are best but you can miss, so pump it in their chest. Hopefully you hit them in the heart and drop them, but 8 shots in the chest will get the majority of people in just a few seconds.

>>63897069
Man I fucking love old ammo packages, when I win the lottery and start my own little ammo factory, im gonna pack it just like the old days
>Dicks Premium Non Corrosion Cartridges
>Copper Dissolving
>Pleasant recoil with moderate report
>New Asbestos less bullet with HardLead® Construction
>Made in USA

>>63897098
I'm possibly wrong, but I think part of it is they have to meet package listing requirements now. That being said, they can still have nice old style packaging and just have the legally required information on one side of the box. I like the stuff the Russians were importing up until the sanctions from the Ukraine war kicked in, they were nice.

>>63897112
Golden Tiger not being imported is easily the most tragic casualty of this war. I don’t give an iota of a fuck about the slavic bumfight, I just want $189 golden cases again.

>>63897118
You and me both... Plus these were memeable.

>>63897112
>>63897118
>>63897123
I have about 2K rounds left of Golden Tiger and I dont want to shoot it but damn it groups nice in all my slavshit.

>>63897146
Just a few boxes left for me, I've got a lot of old Tula and Wolf stuff though, and of course a boatload of Yugo M67.

>>63897162
I thank whomever liquidated their 400 some rds of 7.62x54r in 2020

I was born a decade too late to fully enjoy mosins at their greatest
Boxes are cool though

>>63897193
Ooooh, you got the old school Barnaul hunter box, those are really cool to me. Nice. I rarely see those anymore except for occasionally in shotgun ammo. Old school ammo was really nice. Either way, to get back on topic, .32 ACP is good, John Browning's excellent gift for concealed carry. .45 for open carry, .32 for concealed.

>>63896791 (OP)
I understand the move to lightweight polymer guns for small rounds but damn I wish they still made the old single stack steels like the Pocket Hammerless

Seriously, i'm surprised that the turks or Brazilians haven't made some cheaper clone, I definitely think there is a market for guns like this.

>>63897220
Colt really should do them still at a reasonable price, like 6-700 MSRP for a new made in USA production one would sell well.

>>63897229
I would imagine the Turks could do a great job with it, considering how well the Tisas 1911 is, almost 100% accurate clone. Turks are also making the Browning Hi-Power clones now too. Maybe we'll see it eventually.

>>63896791 (OP)
Nah it'll just make his high better and he'll grow three inches in all dimensions

>>63897242
I wonder if the old boomer method of Emailing the manufacturer directly enough time would work as far as getting the idea in their head. A pocket hammerless and a non expensive 1911-22

>>63897209
I've got at least 7 of the hunter graphic boxes unopened, 2 of the red and yellow and 3 of the red and blue, most of the pile left is yellow tipped Bulgarian heavy ball still wrapped in brown paper and twine, it had a few odd loose rounds from albainia that had wrinkled brass from the forming process

>>63897267
Lets be honest they'd probably do it but without bluing the finish and itll look worse

>>63896791 (OP)
>>63895548
I bought a pistol from WW1 and had it skim a 71GR fmj across the thickest part of my knee, pic is entry, exit was middle left of my kneecap

>>63897069
man im pretty sure I posted that photo once like 3 years ago.

>>63897441
Absolutely sex.
I would model my entire life around the aura that pictures like these have if I could.

>>63896791 (OP)
You can get Euro 7.65 browning which is apparently a lot hotter than regular American .32 ACP

>>63897436
Yikes!
Got time to do the full story?

>>63897454
thanks bro

>>63897477

>>63897436
did it go off by itself or somethin, how was it? If you were a criminal would it stop you?

>>63896791 (OP)
Handgun rounds do sometimes instantly shut down a target. Some don't even if it's in the right spot. Killing someone with a handgun is typically a nightmarish event. Even point blank headshots can caused a few seconds of an unpleasant grunting noise. Actually that goes for any round that's not booking it past a velocity of around 2000 FPS, and 2500 PFS seem to be the sweet spot because the round visually explodes into bits when it hits a moist barrier. AK 7.62 x 39 for example are regarded as awful in terms of stopping power, but super excellent at barrier penetration. The 556NATO round typically has a velocity that's excess of that 2500 FPS velocity within 150 yards "battle range" and is extremely devastating if you look at the wounds they leave behind.

I don't like any pistol caliber round unless it is book at a minimum of 2000 FPS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghkO1Jidqc

>>63897457
My p32 is loaded with these

>>63896791 (OP)
Just buy a Glock 19 pussy fag, mogs your bussy hard

>>63896825
Most people are going to stop after a gun is presented, let alone after getting shot.

There are a few who might fight through it, but you're average mugger isn't that guy.

32 will solve the vast majority of the defense scenarios.

>>63897441
>>63897477
If you're the original anon that posted it, cool. I saved a bunch stuff over old /k/ through the years. Most of it totally useless, but I thought it was neat so I saved it. Been here since 06, hardly do much browsing in the past few years, but occasionally threads like this one pop up that are worth a post.

>>63897477
Nice. I have a 35 Remington Marlin. Wish the round was more popular.

I don’t know, but I want to say that 8 shots of anything more energetic than 22lr will drop anyone, unless they have like a 1 foot deep layer of fat to absorb the shots. If there are 8 holes in me and I’m miraculously still conscious and on my feet, I am not going to be doing anything other than seeking medical help.

>>63896791 (OP)

>>63898371
I meant yes.

>>63897460
Basically I was your typical Kommando super excited and incredibly sleep deprived working third shift, so I went and bought two pistols on my 21st birthday, a .357magnum and a 1916 ruby .32 because what the hell it's my birthday why not buy two. Cue me getting home and deciding since Ruby's have a history of not feeding well from factory differences, I'll use some snap caps.
I had no snap caps, I sent the slide home with the slide release and it ran away on me like a cosmoline soaked sks, I was sitting crosslegged on my bed at the time >>63897549
No, shock made me feel nothing. Recovery was far worse, Percocets were nice though

>>63896791 (OP)
All pistol bullets are basically the same. They don't go fast enough to cause hydrostatic shock so the damage is localized to the immediate wound channel. The larger bullets do better as hollow points, but you still must hit critical areas.

Yes .32 is sufficient, however do shoot multiple times to increase incapacitation

>>63898391
Damn lol that sucks

>>63898371
If you don’t zero your rifle the bullets won’t come out of the gun

>>63898391
>ran away
Well, at least you got to experience the beauty of a machine pistol for a very brief moment.

I might Fitz my p32. This trigger guard is fucking tiny for my long ass skeleton fingers.

>>63896791 (OP)
Shoot somebody in the head with just about anything and they are going to stop, anon.

>>63896791 (OP)
Only 8? Why not 30? Or are you saving some for his junkie friends?

>>63897588
>Killing someone with a handgun is typically a nightmarish event
I mean, still less so than stabbing/beating someone to death
>2,000 FPS pistol
WHAT SONNY? SPEAK UP