You think if pic related wad made as a new 9mm, would it be popular? I mean, would you buy it and try it?

Of course pic related data is from a 5 inch barrel, and the recoil is non existent due to barrel porting.

No, and your 6.5BMG idea is still stupid.

>>63898136 (OP)
> the recoil is non existent due to barrel porting
lol this guy doesn't know about bolt thrust.

>>63898204

Picrel is the recoil of a 2.5lb gun with a perfect muzzle brake that redirects 100% of the gas laterally so their net effect on recoil is zero.

I recognize OP by his particular brand of autism/retardation. Among his many retarded proposals that violate physical laws and whose feasibility he takes on faith, is a batshit insane idea of equipping everyone with a “6.5 creedmoor” rifle - more aptly called 6.5BMG - that fires a 200gr bullet at 3300fps, yielding ~5,000ft*lbs at the muzzle kek. I worked out the minimum case volume x pressure for him. Minimum 338 lapua case at 100kpsi, lol. He also wants to equip everyone with a p90 in 10mm and >150rds of ammo as a SIDEARM.

OP here, it would be the exact same porting as the aimsurplus porting, so basically... zero noticeable muzzle flip and recoil.
>>63898221
Retard alert

>>63898230
Alright then, explain how you plan to delete that very noticeable 11ftlbf recoil that is still left over even with use of a hypothetical perfectly efficient brake.

>>63898230
Also explain how you plan to produce 1300ft*lbs from the very diminutive 9mm case. That’s 3x as energetic as a 9mm+p. Are you just taking on faith that this can be done? Or, do you mean to transform a 9mm case into that of a 50AE and call it 9mm because “bruh, they’re both metallic case cartridges.”

>retard alert
Kek, won’t even deny he’s 6.5BMG guy

I am dubbing this most recent, insane, autistic physics violation of yours the “9mm Action Express”.

>>63898282
>>63898290
Retard, every heard of barrel ports.

>>63898325
Yes, I accounted for that when I inputted “0.1gr” for the powder charge. Learn to read.

In your mind, barrel ports and constant recoil delete all quantities of recoil, no matter how high, for no penalties paid elsewhere. It’s a wonder why all the world’s fiearm manufacturers don’t just incorporate your brilliant ideas into their designs. We could have 50AE machine pistols and shoulder fired 50BMG machineguns if everyone would simply adopt your infinite wisdom. Everyone else must just be retarded, right?

>>63898339
You are pretty stupid. I got a degree in physics, i know its possible and can be done.

>>63898339
Fucking crazy

>>63898347
Kek. Answer this: Why do you want a muzzle velocity of 2000fps? Why stop there? 3000fps is better. 4000fps better still. explain why the velocity of this new 9mm is 2000fps.

>>63898350
Figure it out yourself smart ass.

>>63898362
Well, I’m nowhere near as smart as you, Einstein. And it is your design/idea, so you tell me.

It propels the bullet to the maximum velocity it can get to I assume due to the foot pounds in energy being equivalent to a 50ae, right?

>>63899059
Bro OP is suggesting a magic wand be waved over a 9x19mm cartridge to increase its energy threefold. If you ask him how he intends to accomplish this without increasing case volume or pressure, he will tell you he has a degree in physics and knows that it can be done, but will never reveal the machinations of his brilliant mind. He has similarly delusional aspirations of creating a 5,000ft*lb 6.5 creedmoor (the 6.5BMG I refer to)

Also he thinks you can poke some holes in the barrel and delete any and all recoil entirely. As if that’s all it takes to violate basic physical laws.

But I’m just a retarded hater, not a man apart cognitive powerhouse wizard like OP.

>>63899179
OP is alright, it is possible, the foot lbs is equal to .429 de

can't wait to see it on the shelves, OP.

>>63899982
>OP is right

Hi OP. Pretending to be other people again ITT?

>energy equal to 429DE
Well, yeah, but only if you use the very same case. At which point it ceases to be a 9mm. Not even in the same universe. The ballistics you’re proposing are what is expected from a 350 legend out of a 5” barrel. You want to feed this through the grip of an autoloader? Double stacked? And you think this won’t have recoil?

>>63900016
it's either op or someone agreeing with the retard just to gas him up for giggles.

>>63900016
OP here, you'll barely feel it. Also your critique is noted, noted as being unnecessarily over exaggerated.

Speak more normally and I'm sure you'll get more responses.

>>63900063
>it’s either OP or…

Oh it’s him alright. He did this in his last thread when every other anon bullied him for his arrogance and unworkable, stupid ideas.

>>63900099
Kek, what the fuck does that mean “your critique is noted and exaggerated”? I did not offer a critique. I pointed out that your cartridge is basically 350 legend and the ballistics are impossible to achieve from a 9mm case. 147gr@2000fps will never happen from a 9mm case. Nonstarter. The Closest you’ll get is a high pressure (55kpsi+) 9x25 Dillon. Totally doable, but definitely not the same thing as 9x19mm, and absolutley not without recoil.

For the record, I totally would buy a high pressure 9x25 with a pistol rated for the extreme pressure. Sounds really cool.

>>63900134
>For the record, I totally would buy a high pressure 9x25 with a pistol rated for the extreme pressure. Sounds really cool.
Then you should now about this project.

>>63900259
>project

Interesting. I remember some years ago some guy kept upping the pressure in his NAS3 9mm loads and shooting them through his Glock to see when the cases give out, and he went up to 70k no problem. That’s twice the pressure of normal 9mm, so should have about 700ft*lbs.

I’m so happy though to see the high pressure revolution, and tons of people engaging with it. I fucking called it back in like 2021, that we are on the cusp of a small arms revolution that’s gonna shake things up and resettle around ~80kpsi cartridges. Any day now someone’s gonna make the mag-in-grip 5.56 (analog) I’ve been cooming over for years, but do not possess the education or engineering aptitude to do anything about.

>>63900259
Got any links to reading material?

>>63900339
https://www.atlasarms.org/9mm-atlas/