What do you think of the "new" stg77 that AUG currently makes? Also does anyone know if those two slots are M-LOK ?

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>>63900499 (OP)
They aren’t M-LOK. They’re vents for the barrel.

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>>63901155
why didnt they put a picatinny on it like on M1 or was it M2?

>>63900499 (OP)
Is it .308? No? FO.

>>63900499 (OP)
I mean, .338ARC would have at least been interesting.

>>63900499 (OP)
is that the "green" or "mud" color?

>>63900499 (OP)
I want it in white and 6mm ARC for the space laser games.

>>63900499 (OP)
It's an old-as-fuck design that they should've upgraded over 20 years ago with better ergonomics, proper handguard coverage and accessory rails (mlok now). They should shamelessly copy Thales Australia's homework.

>>63901247
Because it’s a recreation of the old version. If you want a rail there then get the M2.

>>63901283
They stopped making M2 its out of stock everywhere

They would probably be more popular if steyr usa wasnt ran by retards for the last 20 years. Every country that uses them has multiple upgrade packages that steyr gmbh has provided, why are none of them sold here?
The nato magazine witb bolt release has been available since like 2012 for euro agencies. They just now bring it over and dont even include it by default but as a $500 upgrade? What about all the various rail systems that have been made? Nope cant sell those either.
The aug could have been the AR of the bullpup world but its like they fucked it up at every chance.

Why does nobody in America make the f-90 variant?

>>63901478
looks waaaay worse than the original

>>63901478
Because Lithgow are a bunch of aussie fags

>>63900499 (OP)
ahh aug my beloved

>>63900499 (OP)
Speaking about Aug

>>63901478
A major Australian political party (specifically the QLD LNP, so sort of two parties) was engaged in corruption with an Australian firearms imported called NIOA. A condition of donations from NIOA to a member of that party and the support of two senators in a minor party who were related to the director of NIOA, was the Australian government giving military contracts to NIOA and trying to put their domestic manufacturing competitor (Lithgow) out of business.

Thales was geared up to sell the rifles into the US market and even had a US domestic manufacturer (Daewoo) already producing them (to get around AWB shit), but got told by the government that they'd use IP export controls to kill it if they pushed on, so they'd better get the fuck in line and issue a press release making an excuse for pulling it.

Petee Dutton and the entire Katter family should get in the bin.

>>63901391
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/688218826584

>>63901691
I don't see how any of those paragraphs relate to each other, but the middle one at least answers the question.

>>63901478
If the British are looking to replace the L85, they really should take a good look at this.

>>63901720
My man click the links first, none of them are M1, which means you can't put an original scope on them because Styer is dumb-retarded.

wait where the fucking front sling swivel on that hting?

>>63901808

>>63901767
Petter Dutton (LNP - the man who got MASHED by Anthony "Big Cock" Albanese in the Federal Election) is QLD LNP. The Katter family is infamous in Australia and especially QLD. Bob Katter is the Federal MP for Kennedy in QLD while many of his family have a small but politically noisy base in QLD state parliament under "Katter's Australia Party". Rob Nioa; Bob Katter's son-in-law, is the CEO of Nioa. So anon is basically highlighting the immensly corrupt conflict of interest. NIOA has been trying to scab ammunition and weapons contracts by the Australian Government for over a decade now. This was done especially when Peter Dutton was the defence minister, but was consistent throughout the entire Federal Liberal government of the last 10-ish years. Dutton used his political pressure to thundercunt Lithgow (Thales) thereby giving NIOA breathing room to out-compete Lithgow.

Lithgow however already has a significant civilian market, with their bolt actions but especially ADI powders (the best powder on the market desu - I use 2208 religiously). But it meant Lithgow couldn't expand their operations into the US.

>t. ex-Aus Army tanker who actually had Peter Dutton ride in his tank in '21, who was so scared shitless of being in the tank it was embarrassing. Needless to say I voted Labor just off that alone.

I wish the CDF's adjutant didn't ask for his cap that he left behind, I was going to jerk off into it.

god i love the aug

>>63901801
The post I replied to mentioned the M2.

>>63901808
>>63901810
You have to put one on it. They include a UTG one in the box but I got a Magpul one because I’m not putting an airsoft tier part on a gun that’s almost $2k.

>>63901822
Bleak. They literally had a reciever with a built in sling swiwel

>>63901829
They still make the M1. I don’t even think there are plans to discontinue it, this thread seems to be full of people unfamiliar with the Steyr catalog and google. The M2 is better overall as long as you don’t get hung up on the swing swivel.

>>63901838
Source? Theyy've replaced every M1 listing with M2 and I coulodn't find one in stock for months, I think it's over.

>>63901812
>ADI 2208 powder
Dangerously based. Luv me 2206H/2208 in .303

>>63901849
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/688218739464

>>63901853
I wish those fucks would make some black powder so I don't have to rely on WANO.
>PPU brass, 40gr 2208 w/ 174 Sierra HPBT for my .303s
100% of the time it works everytime.

Also, I hated the EF-88C as a tank crewman because my carbine-squared had all the disadvantages of a carbine with the weight and fucking size of a full length rifle inside an armoured vehicle, but as a dismount I actually do enjoy using it. If I could, I'd buy an F-90 so you can use STANAG magazines.

I got 4 30 bullet magazines because I was made aware of the """""""""""""""high capacity magazine ban"""""""""""""""", but I don't have the actual fucking rifle, because I learned too late about the """""""""""""""asssault""""""""""""""""""" weapons ban in this homo state

>>63901812
>t.
Lol. In 2014... I think (could be a year either side), I did PT with Tony Abbott at 1AR is and he flogged me and pretty much everyone else there, in the buildup with no acclimatisation. Not surprised that the liberals went soft and limp as a wet noodle after they elbowed him out and ended up with those slobs ScoMo and Dutton running the show.

>>63901964
>Based Tones
Tony Abbott was actually a good PM, gaff's aside. He wasn't a total faggot, or at least did a very good job cultivating that image. But when you got a bunch of backstabbing rats in a party, it's no suprised the wormiest of them all ended up on top.

>1AR
Ah yes, the "Old Guard". I wish 2CAV C SQN didn't go to shit the way it has, but once the key go-getters left it was the fucking scum who unfortunately stayed around long enough to become NCO's/OCs. Taught me well that career progression in Army is a race to not touch the bottom.

>>63901838
>>63901829
>>63901822

Does anyone here use the Aug Flex Swivel? I have a 2024 date on my stock but it still seems dumb to install a sling mount in the exact area where the cracks form.

>>63901810
What a fucking rifle. Slap an ACOG on that and give the stock a nice camo paintjob, and you've really got something.

>>63901812
So let me get this straight. You're saying that a company called NIOA wanted Australian market share, and to get that, they leaned on the AUS government to stop Lithgow from expanding to the US market?

>>63902060
More or less, yes. NIOA wanted to kneecap Lithgow, domestically and internationally. They already had military contracts refurbishing and manufacturing ammunition (120mm to 12.7mm). I've been told by those who are far more in the loop than I that they want to become the dominant arms and munition manufacturer in Australia - which is currently Lithgow.

NIOA bought out Barrett earlier this decard as part of that plan. I think they tried to get their rifles accepted as part of the Infantry's plan to buy new equipment, but AI won the sniper bid so I don't know what happened there.

>>63901992
>there could be 2-3 man groups of Musorians staying in creeklines by day here, he thought...

>>63902060
They don't want market share, they want a monopoly. Ultimately I think they want to run Lithgow into the ground then buy it.

>>63902012
Nah, I just put my sling mount on the front of the top rail.

>>63901691
I don’t know anything about Australian politics outside of what Friendlyjordies posts, man.
Break that down for an American.

Anyone know of any well tested FRT/SS's for the Steyr AUG? I want to convert my A3M1 into a LSSG "Light Super Safe Gun" (I can't think of anything less gayer, give me recs if you have any).

>>63901626
Your gae

>>63901789
Sadly, they'll probably replace it with a Diemaco rifle.

>>63900499 (OP)
The two things I don't like about the AUG is the progressive trigger and the lack of handguard around the pencil barrel. With all the free floated AR15s adding an extruded handguard would be simple. Also VFG are silly

>>63905223
>Also VFG are silly
Shut up, Hop.

>>63902012
I have a flex swivel, but I also have an older AUG that predates the cracking issue. It works really well

>>63907047
>predates the cracking issue
the new ones dont have it either

>>63900499 (OP)
I have one, its only worth it if you intend on getting the "classic" look. It cost me about 1800. If you wanted to buy the A1 plus the OG scope it would around 2300 im pretty sure.

>>63900499 (OP)
MOGGED

>>63908440
Someone should make some AUG that has MLOK all the way out to the muzzle, like a URGI.

>>63900499 (OP)
The scope isn't part of the receiver forging and the trigger shoe isn't color-matched to the stock, so it's not clone correct; it's probably a better deal than paying collectors' prices for a real A1, though.
The slots aren't MLOK, they're just for ventilation. MLOK didn't exist in 1977. There's an untapped market for some entrepreneur looking to lose a lot of money for retro-inspired handguards for platforms like the FAL that have ventilation holes that happen to be MLOK-compatible.

>>63901258
A 6mm ARC AUG would be a very compelling package—with a 16" barrel you'd be looking at a gun the size of an MP5 or DPMS Kitty Kat that could reach out to 800m no problem.

>>63901259
It's a promotional photo of a retro repro, so it's almost certainly "green". Depending on the lighting, "mud" can look very close, but context can guide you in the right direction in most cases.

>>63901691
What is it with Australians and their predisposition to tyranny? This can't be from the prison colony heritage.

>>63900499 (OP)
I was thinking of grabbing a milsup A1 one actually. $750 is cheap as shit.

hop already went over why the AUG sucks

https://youtu.be/0PwCyjhm0V4?si=fAvhTa1supKw2nzM&t=986

The one with the rail is better. Put a 14” barrel on it and weld a muzzle break on it and it’s such a sweet, accurate, and maneuverable rifle.

>>63909950
Form your own opinion.

>>63909950
>my youtuber sai-
Shut the fuck up retard

>>63905223
>Also VFG are silly
What's silly is unironically thinking you are going to get a good c-clamp on your rifle after dumping five+ mags through it in an intense fire fight.

>>63901411
>why are none of them sold here?
Steyr USA doesn't want you to know this but it's literally a handful of guys in a shed getting parts Steyr Austria sends over when they have time. If they feel like it.

>>63909950
The AUG is fine. The trigger is no worse than a Glock's and doesn't get in the way of making your hits, and (he doesn't mention this, but if he tried to set up an AUG it'd come up) you can get an extendo rail for all your night vision shit.
The VFG is fun but you don't have to use it, and it's still functional as a barricade stop and to keep your support hand from banging into the rock or something you're shooting off of.
You'd think that someone who loves direct-thread cans but also sees suppressors as something that mostly makes your gun worse would see a use case for the QC barrel here: have one barrel set up with a direct-thread can and the appropriate gas system tuning, and a second that you can swap in in seconds when you don't want to deal with that shit.
It's funny that he complains about AUG simps that've never seen one in person, owned, or shot one—IME most people who try the AUG like it, and the people who complain loudest about its perceived failings are the ones with no trigger time on the platform.

>>63901691
So why did they say it was because of ethical concerns then?

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/04/10/thales-cancels-plans-to-sell-atrax-bullpup-rifle-on-us-civilian-market/

>The Atrax bullpup rifle was developed as a semi-automatic version of the Australian Defense Force’s F90. Lithgow Arms has been planning to sell the Atrax on the civilian market in the United States since 2016. However, a spokesman for Thales, the company that developed the upgrades for the Steyr AUG variant, announced that they were canceling plans for the civilian version based on “ethical grounds”.

>>63909888
Where do you live where you can get $750 milsurp AUGs? I thought that receiver+parts kits were a little bit more than that. Cheapest I've ever seen were brand new AUGs somewhere between $1100-$1200 IIRC, which I thought was a good deal and almost pulled the trigger on.
Also saw a Microtech for $850 about a month ago but that hardly counts.

>>63910412
>and issue a press release making an excuse for pulling it.
The excuse being "We don't want to enable mass shootings in America [with our weird foreign rifle that would've probably retailed for at least $2200]"

>>63910414
>Cheapest I've ever seen were brand new AUGs somewhere between $1100-$1200 IIRC
Jesus, you missed out. That's a steal—even if you didn't end up liking it, you could've flipped it for $1500 all day.

>>63910370
They way they act i would 100% believe that. They could also import a bunch of the accessories for the aug they only sell in europe. Literally with a bit more effort i feel like they couldve made the aug at least as popular as the g3 in america.

>>63910431
>i feel like they couldve made the aug at least as popular as the g3 in america.
Nothing they could do for the AUG could compete with a $1000 PTR-91 and a case of $2/ea magazines.

>>63910431
It's like saying that Savage or whoever could've made a entry-level bolt gun 15–20 years ago at least as popular as the Mosin-Nagant; the quality of the gun isn't the issue

>>63910370
>it's literally a handful of guys in a shed
Just like Accuracy International when they were good.

>>63911157
Are you bullshitting, or did Accuracy International actually go to shit?

>>63911181
Their new guns produced under the new management aren't bad, per se, but there's no compelling reason at this point to buy an AI over any other chassis-based precision rifle, especially not aesthetics.

>>63904689
Step one is to ignore anything FJ says, hes an entertainer not a political analyst
Australian politics is coloured in many ways by the relative novelty of the system we've built here, in particular the use of a ranked choice preference voting system and compulsory voting. The end result is that it is very difficult for a small group of radicals or extremists to have significant influence over our government as there is always massive pool of relatively disinterested centrist votes that are mathematically incapable of exhausting without influencing the makeup of the government in some way - Compare this to the USA in which a majority of the voting age population doesnt even participate in elections and of those who do, only those living in "swing states" have any influence over the result and they MUST choose between one of the two major parties or see their vote exhaust without influencing the government
As a result, while Australian politics is still centered around two major parties those parties are naturally forced toward more moderate positions by the need to appeal to this big centrist blob while at the same time fending off constant threats from an endless stream of minor parties, which tend to hold more radical positions
In our last election, we saw a collapse of the old political order in very much the same way you Americans saw one with trumps second election, however the structural differences between our democracies meant that this manifested as an outright collapse of our major conservative party as voters simply voted for other parties (or even labor) instead on the justified assumption that these alternatives would either deliver on whatever the LNP had failed to provide them or force it to reform into something more capable of meeting their political needs.

>>63904689
When it comes to actual policy and values and shit, an often overlooked factor is that Australia was founded as a prison colony in a time where capital punishment was still commonplace throughout the empire. As a result, the criminals that were sent here were not rapists and muderers (who were simply hung) but instead consisted of impoverished commoners convicted of petty crimes like theft, and political prisoners - which at the time included large numbers of Irish republicans, early suffragettes and unionists
Many of these dissidents went on to play key roles in the formation of Australian politics and can be considered an important factor in the emergence of stuff like our strong labour movement and early adoption of universal suffrage, and their influence is still felt today in the more left wing (at least by American standards) values common to most Australian voters such as support for public healthcare

>>63911286
Neat. Thanks anon.

>>63911300
i.e., Australia was woke before woke was a thing—"what if we sent all the losers who want to seize by force or guile the produce of the useful members of society to an island where they'd have nobody to steal from except each other"

>>63901255
Who cares about .308 anymore, especially in a platform like the AUG where barrel-burners like 6.5 CM are a non-issue since you can pop in a new one without tools in a matter of seconds?