Is it because so many people from seeing all those American YouTubers with cool semi autos but because they live in a country where semi autos are banned the closest thing they could get is lever actions

meds

>>63901483 (OP)
I don't think so, countrys with semi bans tend to also have strict mag size limits. IMO tactical lever guns are marketed to coping boomers, who lust for the lever guns from cowboy serials of their youth, but have to justify it to themselves as a practical tool, so they cover it with rails and handstops and other modern accoutrements. Its akin to the whole millenial/zoomer hairsplitting over whether a gun is "viable", as if the differences between reliable semi 5.56s even matters.

>>63901483 (OP)
I dunno but it is unbelievably gay lol

i think these are so fucking stupid, be normal and enjoy wood and steel lever guns, not every single gun you own has to be your tactical operator go to war rifle for muh shtf

There is a certain segment, like 20% of gun owners, who will not buy a gun unless it is covered in TACTICAL RAILS and own like 23 TACTICAL FORCE MULTIPLIER PLATFORMS. If they don't have skeletonized stocks handguards and rails they do not buy because it wouldn't be "sheepdawg"

>>63901483 (OP)
That one is over the top but I do like the look of modern brushed stainless lever guns with laminate stocks, pic rails, and threaded barrels.

>>63901506
I’m about to strip the wood off grandpa fudd’s model 94 and replace it with polymer

>>63901538
let me guess, single parent household

>>63901483 (OP)
>Why are they pushing tactical lever actions

Because the Gunsoomer market has maxed other gun types, and gunsoomers must GUNSOOM.

But the real question is, why does anyone else care what some people do with their money?

>>63901918

tactical lever actions are extremely gay
wood (the dogshit full spectrum laminated plywood does not count) and skinner sights or castrate yourself

>>63901483 (OP)
It's just cycles in the market. The modern gun market relies on finding new ways to sell people guns they already own, so it's just going to be a new gimmick every few years. We've had
>tactical lever actions
>9mm 2011s
>10mm suddenly being the greatest cartridge ever
>.12-inch thinner carry pistols just to end up back at the G19 size anyways
>Tactical shotguns with multiple magazines like the KSG, M&P12, and TS12
I know I'm forgetting some, but I hope we get to tactical revolvers soon.

>>63901483 (OP)
>Be me (AMERICAN!)
>Watch Yellowstone
>Uh, they got some sweet lever gats in there
>My brain: ANON GRUGG WANT LEVER GAT
>Grab Henry Big Boy X in .45-70 Grugg and install stock and handguard from Ranger Point Precision
>Own tacticool lever boomstick like in OP's pic
It's just like that. I wanted one because I wanted one. I don't have to tell me shit like >>63901497 or make up pseudo reasons why I NEEEEEED it.
I like the look that's it.

>>63901975
>>10mm suddenly being the greatest cartridge ever
Always has been, dick-nose

>>63901483 (OP)
I wish people would do this shit more tastefully, I like adding functionality to old designs but you need to add functionality that makes sense. A dot and a can on a lever action is really fun, but it doesn't need full length mlok, keep some wood and make it look good. If its a range gun or even hunting gun then you really only need an optic and a can.

If you live somewhere where a levergun is the most viable defensive gun you're allowed to own then by all means, put a light on it and a bunch of extra ammo, but if you don't, you're just consoooming.

>>63901483 (OP)
Nah, lever guns aren't popular in Europe. That said, as a Eurofag I would definitely buy a tactical lever action if I had too much money

>>63901918
The best part of any hobby is shitting on other people in the same hobby retard lmao

>>63901483 (OP)
idk, i want to get one and if i do itd be a marlin dark series in 30-30 or 45-70 govt. the rail is cool and the tactical niggerswag is minimal compared to most ive seen. i personally would just add a good scope with an iron option and call it dandy. if they all went away tomorrow though im perfectly fine with the rest of marlins products and overall most cowboy/classic style levers.

>>63901483 (OP)
They're almost exclusively marketed at American dudebros, retard.
Lever actions barely even exist outside of the US aside from people who do western shooting.

There's 3 tiers of leverguns: Classic, Modern and Tactical
Classic/Modern look almost the same outside of finish and a potentially removable picatinny rail on top that is oriented around some basic red dot. Wood on Modern guns may be anything from traditional finish to truck liner on hardwood. The ones everyone hates are the tactical abominations with 800 dollars of hypebeast aluminum on them. Traditional leverguns are great heirloom pieces, modern leverguns with good durable finishes and a 1X red dot are great tools, tactical leverguns are consumerist trash.

>>63901921
>The end of civilization
>People buying unsightly guns for fun
Totally comparable anon.

>>63902010
IMO, a light on a levergat is cumbersome.

The only thing I'd change on my Winchester levergat would be to change the stock into a polymer one, but I don't think those are aftermarket (or I haven't bothered to look). In any case, Henry Big Boys are synthetic stock, and come with rails and mounting points already.

>>63901975
/thread

>>63901975
Tactical revolvers was an early 2010s thing, remember how every movie and video game had a hand cannon (TM) with lasers and red dots and all that stuff? Smith and Wesson made an 8 shot .357 with rails, taurus had one too. Plus stuff like the BFR that people put scopes and red dots on. Same era when the fact that GIGN still issued Manurhin .357s was really prominent in discussions for some reason.

>>63901981
Nah, it was pretty obscure until fairly recently. I don't think anybody disliked the cartridge, but it didn't have much of a following. When I bought a G20 in the early 2000s as a hiking gun, I was reliably informed by boomer and forum poster alike that it was totally inadequate and I was an idiot and .44 mag was the absolute minimum for the woods.

>>63901483 (OP)
Because guns are durable goods and the economics of durable goods are schizophrenic. A gun, properly mantained, will last literally hundreds of years. You don't need to buy it again every few months. So for gun companies to keep making money they have to invent new stupid bullshit for you to buy that you don't already have. Right not that's tactical leversharts.

>>63901918
> Buying things you like is BAD and you're a bad person for liking things!
The poorfag cope is getting a little over the top. Everybody needs a job, which means companies have to sell shit. If you don't want the shit, you don't have to buy it. It does not make you morally superior.

>>63901483 (OP)
the only reason to have a tactical lever action is to put a silencer on it, because at least then it makes sense. otherwise it's just an expensive niche fad.

>>63901483 (OP)
Wood is expensive, plastic is cheap. Manual actions are easier to sell when the government regulates semi-autos.

They certainly look really cool, but it’s a bit silly to be making lever action guns (really, manual action anything) in the 21st century.

>>63903198
This is pretty much it. They don’t have any good ideas so they make something new and different for the sake of it being new and different, and they call this innovation. Same with 95% of new cartridge releases. A good example is the 25 creedmoor, when both 6mm (.243) and 6.5mm (.264) creedmoor exist, differing from 25 creed by 0.014” and 0.007”, respectively.

Hopefully this changes soon. And it might. 80kpsi is a fortuitous development that makes feasible new species of guns and interesting new cartridges. Beyond that, maybe companies ought to focus on useful accessories. Emphasis on the word “useful”.

Because a bunch of blue states with large populations keep violating the second amendment and gun companies have figured out you can sell the people living there these instead of "ar 15 flavor" whatever. Same reason for lever action 9 and 5.56 that take AR mags, it's not for people that can buy better. Also it's kind of fun to see what you can cram on there.

>>63904155
>Same reason for lever action 9 and 5.56 that take AR mags
Show me this.

>>63902302
This shit is the worst of both worlds. The dogshit aesthetics of polymer with the lack of functionality of wood.

>>63904264
>functionality of wood

>>63904278
try reading all of the words next time

>>63904285
>the lack of functionality of wood
Its a stock you moron not a tool.

>>63901483 (OP)
But the ultimate survival tool.
See you can put extra ammo into the butt stock, oh and look it has a tactical flashlight and a compensator on it and a slide stop so you know where to put your extra dickbeater.

>>63901483 (OP)
Tactical lever actions are so goddamn butt ugly it's unforgivable. Not everything needs mlok slots, skeletonized stocks, and miles of picatinny rail.

>>63904334
Guns are tools
The ability to mount shit on your gun allows you to add functionality to said tool
If you're going to ruin the aesthetics with a polymer stock you might as well go whole hog with weight reduction and cover that shit in mounting hardware instead of aping the design of traditional wood stocks.

>>63904382
Yeah go look up how much one of those stocks costs and come back to me.

>>63901483 (OP)
It's the best option for a quick shooting, heavy subsonic projectile suppressor host that keeps the bolt locked until manually cycled.

Bolt actions are slower, there aren't as many available in subsonic chamberings, and they mostly have small magazines.

>>63901483 (OP)
Red dot on a lever gun is based
tacticool lever gun is gay
also it's because the gun industry is in a slump. Fewer hunters because young people don't hunt. See no one really replacing remingshit in the shotgun market and the fact james reeves said mossberg told him they sell my tacticool meme shit than hunting shotguns.
The tacticool market in general is in the shitter because we just got done with the double stack compact revolution and people have been buying the shit out of ARs since 2012/2016/2020 so no one is buying new ARs and a bunch of the AR companies have gone under or are going under.
Lever actions have seen a resurgence due to games like red dead bringing them to the nonboomer gen (boomers like them from their old tv shows and films). But there are only so many .22lr lever guns you can sell and people aren't really guying out to buy muh .30-30 and .45-70 and the .357s are kind of expensive for meme guns so they are trying to make lever guns gay and retarded so they can save money on the wood stocks while jacking up the price margin with gay rails and basically trying to go after the same market the semi auto 18/20 inch shotguns are going for

>>63901497
most lever guns still don't hold more than like 10 or so rounds. and in the US, like NJ for instance, mag limits only cover semi autos.
There is nothing stopping me in NJ from having a 100 round lever gun so long as the mag can't fit in a semi auto

>>63901506
it's gay and retarded, but according to TFBTV mossberg sells more of the gay retarded tacticool shit than they sell normal hunting shotguns

>>63901932
red dots on lever guns are based. The tacticool shit is gay, but red dots are just an update on the ramped bead and cuckhorn sights lever guns historically had

>>63901497
>>63901483 (OP)
yuros hate lever guns because they were invented in the US. other than like cap and ball and some eyetalians yuros would rather have bolts, straight pulls and some weird as fuck retarded nazi designs because they don't want American guns

>>63902302
>have all that fucking rail estate
>red dot is that far back instead of over the barrel

>>63904234
>>63904155
henry has .223 lever guns. pic related is 9mm. they aren't for cuck states, it's because AR sales are down

>>63901483 (OP)
ar15s are getting banned

>>63901483 (OP)
Everyone screeching about its appearance saying it looks gay is mad because it looks ugly but they can't deny that it is a more capable platform in this configuration. Being able to optionally add enablers and getting a threaded barrel by default is a major upgrade function wise.

>>63904762
it's a durr rifle

>>63901483 (OP)
Probably, but you can also get straight-pulls that are fun to shoot, such as in Australia.
Pump-action shotgun = illegal
Pump-action .308 rifle = legal

I just want a 22lr lever action I can play with at home to plink rats with
is that really too much to ask for?

Obviously the OP pic is gay and retarded, but modernized Marlin rifles and shit are cool as hell. Haven't seen the movie since it came out, but I remember Chris Pratt's .45-70 in Jurassic World being boss as hell

>>63901483 (OP)
faster cocking action

>>63901975
Once again, I am ahead of everyone else

>>63905098
Still useful to have a light and a can on your gun hunting. Also, the furniture wont or rot. I really like the look of wood guns but the performance is inferior.

>>63901488
This
>>63901483 (OP)
meds....... now OP

>>63902398
I hate the tactical stocks but like the mlok handguards and top rails
but i'm also a faggot zoomer who grew up on videogames and action movies so

what calibers for lever action would be popular in
>commonwealth
>italy
>mexico
>brasil

if they could have lever actions?

>>63906736
some bong invented a 44 mag lever action bullpup belt fed

>>63905612
yeah idk why australia is so retarded
>>63905787
Henry, Browning, Winchester, savage and like rossi all make .22lr lever actions. just note that only the henry rifles are made in the US. Browning is made in japan and the rest are made in third world countries like turkey, canada and brazil

>>63906403
Skinner makes light mounts that don't require new furniture. again how much is the wood going to rot on a durr gun.
idk if every state allows lights when hunting. I know my state, NJ (which bans centerfire rifles from most game hunting, it's only ok for pests like woodchucks) doesn't allow any "sights that cast an artificial beam of light on the animal".
people were joking about if red dots would count since there is technically some spill, through the front lens though it's so small I think you can only see it with nods

>>63906713
I like the adjustable stock, but I don't like the rails. IMO the best is the optic plate that attaches to the rear sight dovetail. that is cool to me because it's actually functional without tacticooling out the rest of the shit
>>63906736
Winchester kept selling trapper guns in latin America until like the 1940s. like the 1892 wasn't discontinued until 1945 but I don't think any Americans were buying them in any real numbers after 1895ish when .30-30 came out so I'd assume .44-40 (and I guess .44 mag, but that came out much later) are pop lever gun calibers in mexico and brazil

>>63901483 (OP)
Playing cowboys is fun.
>>63908394
Return to tradition.

>>63901483 (OP)
AR market is pretty saturated and people are generally ready to try something new. Also, suppressed leverguns are great fun. >can be quickly cycled
>Manual action so no gas in your face
>can easily get subsonic rounds for pistol caliber ones
>very quiet
>pack a punch
You should try it sometime, I quite like mine.

>>63901483 (OP)
>why are they pushing
Why are people buying this retarded shit?

>>63901483 (OP)
I think some part of it is their use in Jurassic Park and John Wick.

>>63908394
thanks anon.

>>63909885
>>63905800
I'm assuming remington or marlin paid for that because .45-70 is a meme round and it doesn't make sense to use .45-70 for anything.
the 1886, 1895, savage 99 and browning blr are all stronger actions. he could get something in like .475 turnball meme

>>63901975
The era of double digit capacity .45 handguns was interesting The FNX getting shat on for having squishy grips was funny.

>>63909205
Questions for leveranons:

I want to get a levergun, I want to be able to hunt small and medium game but also plink suppressed, .357 mag/.38 spc seems like the best choice to do that and also where I live in South Africa most other levergun calibers are harder to find.

I know .357 mag from a rifle barrel is fine ballistically at close range for antelope sized animals, but what is the maximum range for ethical hunting?

I'm guessing the range is too short to be hunting plains game like springbok but it should be fine for impala and bushpig in bushveld?

>>63911467
50 meters for a confident hit on a vital area to make a kill. Any further and your drop in m/s might not kill immediately.

>>63911487
Thanks anon, so that limits me to bushveld hunting unless I have sneak at 100.

>>63911500
Note that i am being conservative and you have the energy trajectory to make a kill at 100, but I dont know how good you are with a rifle so I dial back a bit because id hate to see animals suffer before they die. Once you bush it a few times im sure you'll stretch your legs more.

>>63911522
Thanks anon, I realise that, I've seen people say you can stretch out to 100m but I'm a novice at rifle shooting, I only shoot pistol and shotgun regularly so I would have to git gud before trying anything further out

>>63901483 (OP)
That is the case in Ireland, semi-auto centerfire is strictly prohibited.

>>63901975
That revolver has been raped

>>63904674
I pray this never happens

>>63911594
>I only shoot pistol and shotgun regularly so I would have to git gud before trying anything further out
the thing is if it was a real rifle caliber(thats not 22lr) 100m is basically point blank.

>>63901483 (OP)
The recent state level AWBs particularly with IL's banned by name BS pushed them to the fore front for a short while so manufactures tried to flood the market

>>63906713
nice

>>63904509
>cuckhorn
he can't shootsneed

>>63901483 (OP)
>Boomer's Indian Summer
>2Abrogating jurisdictions
>little to none R&D

>>63901483 (OP)
i didnt think i liked these until i tried a tacticool lever shotgun and it was honestly fun as hell for clays

>>63901483 (OP)
I think it's more of the constant AR and wonder 9 fatigue

>>63911467
I hunt whitetail deer at ranges of 100m or under with my .357 lever action. You can kill with a vital shot at those distances no problem but the animal might walk a ways before bleeding out since its not quite as powerful as a rifle round, and bullet drop from .357 is fairly negligible at 100m. You might want to consider a scope, but a 1x works fine imo, and as always know your holds.

>>63901483 (OP)
It's just for fun. You do enjoy shooting and putting together guns, don't you?

CAPITALISM BREEDS INNOVATION HUH?

>>63901918
I don't wanna see that shit on my screen is all

>>63903202
No, you're a bad person because you have bad taste, all the money in the world can't buy you good judgment

>>63902010
It's lipstick on a pig. Putting practical features on an impractical gun is fruitless

>>63911467
what part of SA do you live in?

>>63918247
Western Cape, so the closest hunting is mainly in the Karoo, but I'm not averse to travelling to the northeastern parts of the country.

My idea is to have something relatively cheap to shoot that can be really quiet with the right loads when suppressed, that can also be used for certain kinds of hunting.

It's literally
>no one is hunting and we already saturated the market with AR sales, Mossberg says most of their guns they sell are meme guns since no one hunts so let's take off the shelf meme shit and put it on our guns and then market to those tacticool fags
It's like how a lot of the new guns are in .357, .45LC and .45-70 even though anyone actually hunting with a lever gun is using .30-30, .35 rem, .360 buckbreaker or .44 mag

>>63903202
Wasting money on retarded bullshit is the kind of thing that merits getting called a retard, whether it's niggers with gold grills and rims or boomers with boats and inground pools

>>63919309
I hunt whitetail with .357, it works fine. See >>63917265

>>63904762
/k/ has awful taste and like everywhere else on 4chan is overpopulated with gay retards. cyber+steampunk aesthetic is cool as shit and anyone who doesn't want to be a modern day ronin gunslinger can just go play with dildos or funkopops or some shit idfk

>>63908360
Because they let women and faggots vote there

>>63909885
would

>>63911467
>>63918247
>>63918491
What's the best gun for hunting kaffas

>>63919861
>/k/ has awful taste
and your post is exhibit A you autist

>>63919854
why not use .44 or .30-30 or .360 buckbreaker ?

>>63920080
Straight wall only state and I don't feel like buying a new lever action in a new caliber when I have a perfectly serviceable gun and cartridge for where I hunt. I would use my .30-30 if I could though.

>>63901483 (OP)
People are bored of ARs and they are going with the next American classic.

There is a bit of charm to a manual action. Especially considering levers are pretty much the fastest manual action.
Bar some pumps and straight pulls.

>>63904596
Lever guns are immensely popular in the UK. Lots of silhouette and cowboy action matches. They're the fastest-cycling center-fire rifles available. I think my old man had at least five Marlins in rotation at any given time, and a whole cabin dedicated to his reloading setup.
>Pic related
the only two we were able to save, just recently got done with re-import here to the US. Cost as much as buying one 1895 new but they're the only two of his I'll likely ever be able to inherit so worth it

>>63919845
Suck my cock

>>63901483 (OP)
You guys think we will see a reversal of the tacticool trend to more barebones rifles soon?

>>63920577
Honestly, no. Tacticool shit sells a lot more than basic rifles. At minimum you might see a rifle that only has rail on the top of the receiver, but that's it. Its been said a few times itt, people buy more Tactical style guns. TFB confirmed that as true from mossberg during their new mag fed 590 test.

>>63920577
>>63920602
To add though, I think the next trend will be built to order semi custom configured guns. Like a real idiot proof, click to add barrel, click to change length type visual gun builder.

>>63901483 (OP)
A lot of the new ban legislation that is going around written by the Bloomberg funded groups goes after semiautomatic or gas operated guns. These rifles are a way for cucked states still make some use out of all of those AR uppers and mags.
When Colorado’s gay “take a class and get a permission from your sheriff to buy an AR” bill begins next August, you could just go get a yeehaw rifle and not jump through all the hoops.

>>63911112
45-70 is for use on savages and buffalo, don't be obtuse. It's also awesome and cool looking, fun to load and shoot, and has decent projectile selection for the discerning handloader. Also since it was originally a blackpowder round, you could easily substitute blackpowder for smokeless in the rather unlikely situation you could source primers but not powder.

>>63920397
man, what caliber is that marlin? that tube looks pretty fat.

last gun I bought was this 32-20 made in 1901

>>63901483 (OP)
I'm in sales, so yeah, challenge accepted.

You NEED a tactical lever action. Imagine it Anon. Jim Bowie defending the Alamo. Its just like that, the perfect home defense gun that libtards won't be able to crucify you for using like the LoAtHsOmE AR-15 they go nuts over. You can patrol your 10 acre property without worry. Fresh air, breeze in your hair, Kid Rock blasting from a boom box, ready to kick ass with an All American Classic they WISH they had at the Alamo. Remember the Alamo? They might not have lostif they had THIS BAD BOY. Woo wee!

>>63901483 (OP)
Semis are banned in my country and I'm not upset about it, I don't need a way to go through more ammo, shit is expensive. Cycling that between shots is probably more fun than being able to mag dump a semi auto

>>63920850
what we need is tactical lever guns but also box fed spitzer bullets in beasty calibers like 375 ruger

>>63920131
why buy .357 over .4 mag in the first place?

>>63920331
>some pumps
pumps are inherently faster, that's why thy sold better as shotguns and rimfire guns, the main types of sporting guns where speed actually matters (I guess dangerous game too, but pumps were mainly sold in the US and they didn't solve the jamming/weak action/weak primary extraction until after wwII

>>63920397
>Lever guns are immensely popular in the UK.
really? normally yuros just sneed on here over leverguns and say they hate them for being American.
also
>long octagonal barrel and globe front sight
>cuckhorn rear
what?

>>63920577
>>63920602
we already saw this with the retro AR trend

>>63920705
the gun in OP doesn't take AR mags. it's just a 336 with shit on it
>>63920720
.45-70 wasn't even that popular back when buffalos were a thing. the 1886 only sold like 160k rifles and even then you had guys like Teddy buying meme shit like .45-90 sharps
to put it in perspective, the 1873 sold like 750,000 rifles, the 1892 sold 1 million rifles, the 1894 sold 7.5 million rifles and the 1895 sold like 460k rifles (though a large number of those were russian contract guns and not sporting market guns) when it comes to buffalo hunting between the sharps, rolling block, 1876, 1885 and 1886 they all sold worse than the .44-40 and .30-30 lever guns and most of the buffalo hunters were using shit like .45-110 or .50-90 sharps.
the only thing .45-70 had going for it was that trapdoors were in .45-70 and then marlin brought the .45-70 back in 1972 even though no one had made a .45-70 gun since before WWI because boomers who watched cowboy and injun shows wanted one for silhouette shooting
It's literally always been a meme round and it's literally never been a popular round

>>63920946
so a BLR or an 1895?

>>63921756
whatever nerd, go jerk your floppy winchesters around somewhere else

>>63921924
why are you seething so hard over .45-70?

>>63921950
all I did was say I liked it and it was awesome, the other guy is the one who sperged out about teddy roosevelt and tom selleck and all their weird calibers nobody makes ammo for. I just don't like winchester lever guns, deal with it.

>>63921973
so you only like marlins?

>>63901488
o/

>>63901503
I’d love to get a lever action but for FFS it’s one gun that can be spared full tactical remixing.

>>63922377
what I want is more companies to make direct mount plates that mount to the rear sight dovetails of lever guns and closed emitter red dots to put on those plates because it gets the red dot farther out and lower than putting it on a rail bolted to the top of the receiver and that's the kind of tacticool that would make lever guns better

>>63921665
More pleasant to shoot, cheaper ammo, suppresses better, already had revolvers in .357 and thus ammo.

>>63922790
That seems reasonable, but if you put a buffer tube and AR stock on it, I’ll find you.

>>63925158
This looks way better than that rail shit

>>63901483 (OP)
Fallout: New Vegas

>>63920735
45-70, the only acceptable chambering for an underlever besides .22
>>63921701
he shot it with a scope. He had two of these and three other 1894s in 44/357 he was always frittering around with so it came to me in a transitional state. Since pic I took off the weaver rail and hope to put skinners on it soon. I drove in an adjustable semi-buck rear I got used but I hate it

>>63922015
pretty much, the action is smoother and sharper, the winchester's multi-link hinge makes it floppy and less responsive. I've never shot a henry, I know they're internally similar to marlins but externally bleh. I mean, just look at those silver big loops a couple posts up, they're gorgeous.

>>63925718
yeah cuckhorns suck, also .45-70 is a meme round
>>63925730
>big arthritic boomer hands
and yeah the centerfire henrys are 336s

>>63901483 (OP)
I just think they're neat

>>63911467
I hunt whitetail with mine and with a peep sight I would be comfortsble taking a deer out to 100 yds with my reloads. Im shooting 158 gr JSP between 1850-1920 fps and it drops them dead as a door nail.

>>63920080
>>63921665
not him, but I notice the deer dont run when shot woth 357 they just walk off and lay down within 10 steps and die. its nice bc the reportvis not as loud even unsupressed. i shot four deer in a single morning with it last fall.

>>63925876
>>63925843
Would hollopoints be useful or are the velocities too high to give good expansion?

>>63901483 (OP)
Stay with me now:

Lever gat with... Double stack loading tubes
Figure it out

>>63926311
Dual tube shotguns have been designed before, so its doable. Imagine loading one up with fast 124gr super .357 and the other with fat 200gr subs

>>63926215
I would stick with a solid soft point hunting bullet at least 158gr or higher. Hard cast will also work as do JSP or those Hornady FTX bullets. Hollow points I don't think are common as you want good penetration for hunting scenario.

>>63926311
Look up Remington 30 spiral magazine

>>63901503
This. Lever guns are cool and can be a fast firing “intermediate” caliber. But for fucks sake make them look the same. Add a threaded barrel because why not but the rest looks like ass.

In a similar vein, why has 10mm taken off so much lately? Is it just a fad that will fade out again?

>>63902010
> A dot and a can on a lever action is really fun,
This. .357 from a rifle barrel is fairly stout and can be reloaded cheap. Playing quiet cowboy is fun even if you only shoot steel with it.

>>63925841
eww

>>63926215
don't they specifically make hunting ammo for use with rifles?
>>63927176
double stack 9mm sales probably dipped and now companies need new meme guns to sell

>>63925198
YES

>>63903164
> Smith and Wesson made an 8 shot .357 with rails,
I still stand by the TRR8 being a good revolver and making sense.

>>63903198
This is it. Same with “PDW” pistol chassis, backpack guns, every new .224” AR length cartridge that’s just a little different and better in one specific way. Some of them have merits or a real small niche but 99.9% of it is looking for an excuse to get people to spend more money on guns.

Sidenote, I wonder what it’ll be like for my grandchildren when I’ll inherit some guns from my dad, my kids will inherit dozens and dozens from me, my kids will have their own guns, and so on. Eventually space becomes a major issue.

Auzzies love them because pumps are banned.

>>63903198
>"What is planned obsolesce?" for 500.

>>63930110
you can't really do that with guns

>>63928603
NTA but an R8 is on my "eventually" list. And when I get one, it will be painted like a CS GO skin.

>>63920735
Where do you get ammo for it?

>>63930905
starline and missouri bullet

>>63930905
isn't 38-55 like the same action size as 30-30? I didn't realize marlin used to use the 1894 action (though bigger I guess) for that over the 336 action
IMO the 1873 actions look the best, then the marlin 1894 actions then the winchester 1894 actions (though a lot of 92s look fugly imo), then the 336 action

>>63901980
>I like the look
Shit taste pleb

>>63901483 (OP)
This is enough tactical.
>Tritium sights
>threaded barrel
>rail
Add anything else and it's gay.

>>63931542
I still think those look like shit
>ugly furniture
>one of the ugliest actions for a lever action
>arthritic boomer hands lever loop
but again, I do specifically like the barrel mounted red dots, especially if they can mount to the dovetail slot for the rear sight. a red dot is basically like the platonic ideal of of the cuckhorn ramped bead sight

>>63931554
Don't get me wrong I like the classic lever action look too and the chrome/steel finish is nice - picrel. I meant it more like if you put more shit on the rifle it becomes too gay. I can understand you want silencer and a scope. Flashlight, those quiver things, fucking braided para cord around the lever loop, tactical buttstock. C'mon, that's just too much.

>>63927176
What unholy combo is that?

>>63931603
idk I think even your pic related looks kind of ugly

>>63931630
Different strokes for different folks I guess.

>>63928603
I want an R8 with a 3 inch barrel. The 5" is too long and the 2" 327PC is too short, and toss a little rail on there too since compact lights have gotten so prevalent. I don't know why the big revolver manufacturers avoid making mid size revolvers with their fancy lightweight materials.

>>63905810
Does the laser sight just stick on like a magnet?

>>63931650
I like the 1894 style actions you posted, but the short barrel is kind of gross

>>63932162
No, it just clamps onto the trigger guard

>>63911594
Not sure how easy or expensive it is for you to go practice, but your vital zone on most animals is a 4-8” circle. It’s not hard to keep shots in that big of an area with a little practice with a rifle. Yes .357 will have a decent amount of drop at even 100m but it’s well within the capabilities of the round. Rifles are easier to shoot pretty well than handguns and shotguns

>>63917016
Would colonize

>>63911112
I use my 45-70 for deer, elk, and black bear. The 325 grain FTX I hit a ground squirrel with a few weeks back was one of the best dollars I've ever spent.

>>63901483 (OP)
They're cool. That's really all the justification needed. All the retarded coping ITT is just hipster retard shit.

>>63901975
>picrel
incredibly fucking based

>>63917265
>>63919854
>>63919309
>slaying whitetail with a .357 lever gun
Bros. It's perfect for Eastern US where the woods are thick and the shots are close

>>63901483 (OP)
>Why are they pushing tactical lever actions
Who is They OP?

>>63935348
>henry
I own an h004 and I'd rather get a winchester or marlin if I was taking the .357 pill. 336 receivers look so fucking gay

>>63935378
Yeah I'm with you on that. The Henry is just too damn heavy for hunting, and the brass is a bit gaudy. However it's a family gun so I' not inclined to replace it and it puts deer on the ground extremely efficiently

>>63935406
I think it's specifically a PCC problem. the marlin .357s are lighter because they use the lighter 1894 action and don't have the octagonal barrels, plus the potmetal receiver is super heavy. I think the steal receiver .30-30s are lighter than the marlin .30-30s

>>63931609
Fightlite MCR upper, Fightlite Herring lower.

>>63917016
>thighs thicker than waist

>>63920080
I’ve got better tools for breaking bucks than a rifle

>>63920946
I for one welcome the return of 1895 winchesters

>>63926311
Call up Kel-Tec

>>63920946
so the Winchester 1895, the Savage 99 or the Winchester 88/Sako Finnwolf/Browning BLR/Henry Long Ranger?

Here's your 9mm lever action bro
[spoiler]Taylor's and Co actually has a decent looking 1873 in 9mm but the guns are $2,000 and all sold out[/spoiler]

Legit, why are they making these fucking abortions

>>63938461
Immune to shitlib lawfare
Versatile mag options (short mag or bigass tommygun drum)
Super quiet suppressed
9mm PCC's are pretty versatile and they're awesome if you've never heard of AR pistols

Why it has a bigass stupid stock and full length rails when it's just a 9mm, I don't know

>>63938461
A 6" suppressed SBR one of these in .45 would be fun as hell.

>>63931542
I can get on board with this. It’s mostly tasteful modernization.

>>63931694
>I don't know why the big revolver manufacturers avoid making mid size revolvers with their fancy lightweight materials.
I think most people would argue the 5” is the midsize. The revolver market is relatively small anyhow and the number of people who are ok with the extra frame size AND want a shorter barrel is pretty small. Most people want a 4-6” .357 barrel if they’re going past snubnose size

>>63901564
Wrong, both my dads think its really cool.

>>63901538
>>63901564
>>63943284
the only way this is justified is if the gun is of a vintage where preserving the wood would be important and you can swap back without damaging the gun or the wood or if the wood on the gun is already beat to shit.
if it's like a ted williams or some shit I'd just get new wood

>add optic that are way higher than the stock sights
>don't change the comb height