i keep hearing government people and the media say that the strikes in iran were 'very impressive' and 'successful' and lauded other ways. what about the mission are they so happy with? is it because they got in and out without any opposition and the whole thing had no set backs?

>>63902469 (OP)
to clarify and add more: they are making it sound like this was the greatest military operation in the history of the US. why? are they just hawkish people?

>>63902480
I'd encourage you to listen to General Caine's remarks from yesterday. I think he made a case from a technical and personal perspective that this was very well executed

Beyond they, obviously you have an administration looking to take a victory lap. If the decison to strike Iran winds up delaying the nuclear program, ending the fighting, keeping oil prices low, reestablishing credible deterrence, and bring Iran to the table for zero American casualties it would be well deserved.

Even if we assume that the strikes were 100% successful the admin has to do everything in it's power to talk it up because it is one of the extremely few foreign policy successes so far.

>Tariff shenanigans were / are an absolute failure
>The admin basically had to bow down to China because they overplayed their hand
>Ceasefires have all failed so far
>The Pakistan India thing had nothing to do with the admin and even if it did the average American knows nothing about it and cares even less

So beyond these strikes (if we assume they were a success) the only other success has been the UK trade deal and even that was barely anything if you read what it was actually about. The UK trade deal was one of the few rare times were Starmer and Trump were both in extremely dire need of any type of a success at all so they made a hasty trade agreement and talked about how it was the coolest shit ever in public whilst in reality it achieved nothing. I'm also like 98% certain that the only reason Trump even went for the strikes was that the whole TACO Trump narrative was starting to gain traction so he went for a kind of action where he can posture as a strong leader.

>>63902469 (OP)
>what about the mission are they so happy with?
they dropped 12 bombs on Fordow specifically designed for the target, tested over 100 times separately and God knows how many engineers and experts took part in planning of the strike

>>63902658
>tariffs are a disaster, but oil is down, markets are up, inflation is steady, tariffs revenue is up and factories are being opened
>china tariffs to 35% or 50% in some cases
>ceasefire have failed, except for Rwanda, India, Kosovo
>NATO goes to 3.5% from 2%
What a fucking retard you are

>>63902480
America just finished a 3 day special military operation 2 days early

>>63902469 (OP)
>what about the mission are they so happy with?
Because no matter what cope you use it's an undeniable fact that the west ran up on them and blew their shit up with no complications. Iran is bragging that yeah, they might have gotten their teeth kicked in and knees broken, but they saw some blood on the nose of the guys beating them to death while everyone else in the room pulled them away before they could rightfully finish said beating.

>>63902469 (OP)
Because Trump is a shallow egotist and talking up this operation as some sort of massive success (instead of the foreign policy failure it was) is a good way to keep your job.
Yes, it was a military success but I should fucking hope a B2 can cut through Iran's air defense.

>>63902717
He's shallow and pedantic

>>63902741
lol

>>63902469 (OP)
If any other admin claimed all the centrifuges were destroyed it would be maybe 80/20 chance of being true but given the Trump admins track record it's more like 20/80.
The strike worked fine, if it failed it would be an intelligence failure.

>>63902480
>they are making it sound like this was the greatest military operation in the history of the US
I don't think anyone is saying that. It was a reasonably impressive operation due the speed/accuracy it was carried out and the "complex" logistics (not really that complex however nobody else in the world can do it but for the US).
You're seeing a lot of push back from the Dems and libtards who are pretending its a failed operation because "orange man bad" and are pretty retarded generally speaking.

>>63902480
Because the president is an egotistical moron that runs his fat fucking mouth about how great he, and by extension, everything he does is. The president has also surrounded himself with a bunch of lickspittle lackeys that parrot whatever he says and were chosen for their ability and willingness to kiss his ass and make him feel important over competence.
>hurr libtard
I voted for the cocksucker and knew this going in because fuck Harris and the even bigger retards that thought that was a good idea.

>>63902770
well-said

>>63902757
>You're seeing a lot of push back from the Dems and libtards who are pretending its a failed operation because "orange man bad"
Or, you know, not bombing a country that we had already gotten to stop diplomatically.
Or not doing Israel's bidding.

>>63902770
Did you know how tariffs work? I can't understand how anyone that isn't super rich and rent-seeking would think replacing income tax with tariffs is anything other than economic suicide.

>>63902681
>markets are up
Markets are up because the dollar has lost value faster than ever before in US history. You can verify that by simply looking at a chart for DXY vs any other currency.
>inflation is steady
Inflation is steady because the federal reserve refuses thus far to bow to our retard presidents insults and insistence that interest rates be lowered. In 2026 when the head is replaced it will almost assuredly be with a puppet, interest rates will be lowered, and inflation will explode.
>tariffs revenue is up
There is no alternative for critical items but to import, at least for the moment. This is simply a ploy to get "big beautiful bill" passed and make tax cuts permanent. Tarrifs on goods are being presented as an alternative source of federal funding revenue. Should imports collapse and tariffs dry up if the bill is passed, the government will not have funding.
>factories are being opened
Not any new factories. Interest rates are high, so funding loans for new buildings and businesses are rough to secure.
Also, all this tarrif shit is likely to be overturned should a new government come in to power in the next few years, so why would anyone put down serious coin now only to obviously lose that investment within half a decade?
Shuttered business buildings can be put into service short term, but finding staff to produce widgets for bottom dollar is going to be impossible, especially since your illegal slave labor immigrants are now persona non grata.

In short in six months the Republican party has managed to accomplish something I once thought infeasible, and put the US on the path to widespread governmental failure.

You all should be stocking up on bullets, like the head of JP Morgan Chase has publicly recommended.
Shit is going to get rough in a little while.
I am personally filing to certify German bloodline citizenship for myself and my family later this month.
If you've got immigrant ancestry you can trace I recommend that too.

>>63902583
>reestablishing credible deterrence
Lol do people actually believe State Department diplomatic jargon?
>bringing Iran to the negotiating table
They were in 2015, the US abandoned it and wants harsher terms than other countries, Iran refused. They will never come back for anything less

>>63902796
>You all should be stocking up on bullets, like the head of JP Morgan Chase has publicly recommended.
So I can dismiss everything you wrote because Dimon said this in reference to government expenditures with respect to bitcoin vs military preparedness, not domestic economic conditions; specifically, a possible war in the South China Sea.

>>63902780
pound sand towel head, you got dunked on

>>63902839
It's sound advice period, which is why I mentioned it in the first place.
Look, I'm not saying the past six months haven't been extremely good for me personally.
I bought $10k in 1DTE put options the day before tarrifs went in to place and made $150k overnight.
Since that day I'm up 1.5M - the problem I have immediately is that within a year that could have 1M in purchasing power.
Things are extremely delicate, and the future looks bleak.
Everything I wrote is valid - make argument against it so I can refute.
In addition to reclaiming DE citizenship I'm also looking at purchasing property in Spain for their citizenship programs and purchasing permanent residency in Thailand.
You should be doing similar, find a way to get out, if for no other reason than to have your options open. Right now the doors are still open, but they will be slammed shut at a moments notice and you will be stuck if you are not prepared.

>>63902838
>Lol do people actually believe State Department diplomatic jargon?
t. guy who trusts a sui-homocidal Islamic Fundamentalist regime with a lil' bit of uranium enrichment, as a treat

>>63902757
I don't get where the complexity and difficulty arise to make this a "reasonably impressive" operation: the bombs guide themselves, the targets were basically public knowledge, Israel already wiped whatever air defense Iran might had left, and even then S300 wasn't probably gonna cut it against B-2 anyways. The bombers had just to take off, fly a route, maybe refuel in flight, drop the payload, and fly back. If this was a vidya, the US bombing Iran at this point would amount to sealclubbing. Even from a logistics perspective I bet DHL and UPS manage more impressive feats of air freight missions.
>>63902784
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT EGEMONY

>>63902658
3.5 more years

>>63902770
>Hello fellow Republicans

>>63902912
>He's larping now

>>63903077
>all of your opinions must follow the party lines exactly
brainless drone behavior
nta but I only vote for republicans because they're less retarded than democrats. that doesnt mean that republicans aren't retarded.

>>63902469 (OP)
Because that is the brand of the admin, big boastful statements and get angry when questioned.

>>63903082
>Larping
Sure. BTW you've got two more weeks to open foreign bank accounts and transfer funds out of the US.
Treasury recently ordered all domestic financial institutions to adopt ISO 20022 standards by July 14th (Google it, you peasant).
All the wealthly people in the country already have made arrangements with regard to this, if you have any funds you don't want the govt to potentially freeze/seize/isolate in the event there's domestic unrest you should probably get on that too lol.

>>63903486
Can I have some money king? Keen two replicate this

>>63902469 (OP)
>the whole thing had no set backs?
one b-2 was lost
https://www.twz.com/air/b-2-used-as-decoy-for-iran-strike-mission-is-stuck-in-hawaii

>>63904539

>>63902469 (OP)
>is it because they got in and out without any opposition
to me yes, there is nothing iran supplied with shit from russia etc could have done to stop it.

>plan operation under Obama 15 years ago
>republicans come into office
>republicans instantly leak the data to the media
>iranians move the material, operation half glass empty is a half failure after 15 years and hundreds of thousands of man hours spent into the project
Hegseth is personally responsible. I’m not saying the strike was a complete “failure”, but it failed to achieve the important part of the mission, to destroy the nuclear material, because republicans just can’t help but pillow talk to the media and leak.

>>63902480
trump ball suckers
the fact is it was a strike of questionable utility and nothing special for B-2 missions in the middle east

>>63904655
>>63904663
You are so, so, so desperate for this clear and unambiguous victory to be a failure.

>>63904783
this is cope, but sure I’ll pretend im stupid to make you feel better
yes we spent 15 years planning an operation to blow up some concrete and computers, not the horde of nuclear material that they have been building for years. Job well done mission accomplished MAGA etc etc
They fucked it up big time and you know it.

>>63904816
so what's the timeline for tel aviv getting nuked that's all i really care about

>>63903038
It's impressive because nobody else in the world can do it, like I already said.

>>63904816
and centrifuges
>b-but the stockpile
stockpiling low quality nuclear material is the really easy part.

>>63904816
There is not even a single shred of evidence to suggest that Iran somehow spirited away all the uranium from one of the most heavily monitored and spied-upon facilities on the fucking planet beyond your pathological need to denigrate Trump/The Jews, you unbelievable dipshit.

>>63904896
>somehow spirited away all the uranium
Nobody said that.
>one of the most heavily monitored and spied-upon facilities
Correct, we saw them either bring stuff to or taking stuff away from the facility days before the strike.
https://nypost.com/2025/06/23/world-news/satellite-images-show-trucks-lined-up-at-irans-fordo-nuclear-facility-before-us-air-strikes/
>beyond your pathological need to denigrate Trump/The Jews
Im Jewish, voted for Trump 3 times, and have been talking about the need to bomb Fordow since before you graduated high school, boy. The mission was a partial success and that doesn’t cut it. Someone with knowledge of the strike was pillow talking too much and there should be consequences.
Dont me fucking mad at me be mad at whoever ran their mouth so much the Iranians found out after 15 YEARs of OPSEC.

steatlh bombers are cool and only trannies and brownoid muzzies would hate it but honestly we should have used some BONES on the mission as well.

>>63904966
lmao what a retard post.

>>63902469 (OP)
>>63902480

Trump’s approval ratings are in the gutter right now so he needs a big win.

>>63904966
so what's the timeline for tel aviv getting nuked by iran now

>>63904987
336 hours

>>63904896
>there isn’t a single shred of evidence they evacuated anything from the target
>except the trucks moving to and from the facility for 24 hours straight while the package was on its way to the target

>>63904996
nice. nice.

>>63904841
Yeah, but it's a technological advantage. The technology in itself is impressive, sure, but the operation in itself is not. As I said, the overmatch is so great that Iran only chance was only to dig deeper. As for the US, they just had to fly a plane on a friendly airspace for Idk half a day, fly in enemy airspace, but one where nothing could detect them, let alone engage, click on a target, and go back.

>>63905140
welcome to chairforce.
being able to sit for 37h in a chair is elite.

>>63905140

An attack package of 125 aircraft bombing a target on the other side of the planet seems like an impressive operation.

>>63902796
>Markets are up because the dollar has lost value faster than ever before in US history.
All my life I've been lectured about how inflation is ACTUALLY GOOD FOR YOU, PEASANT because it weakens your currency which makes your exports more competitive, now I'm told SUDDENLY INFLATION LE BAD.

>>63902480
>people
>>63902796
>dollar has lost value faster than ever before in US history.
>Inflation is steady
You are unbelivably fucking stupid to pick select one as bad and the other good without realizing they connected.

>>63906242
marketing fluff.

118 out of those 125 aircraft were on theater.

>>63902861
the worlds on the table, and you want another war in the desert. What a culture of fucking idiots.

>>63902469 (OP)
If I'm not mistaken it was the longest range bombing operation in history. A major accomplishment for the pilots, mechanics, flight operations staff, refueling tankers, and controllers. From the perspective of a military man, a once in a lifetime event that they train their whole career for. In that respect it's cool.

The obvious problem with the strike though is that it was carried out on behalf of a hostile foreign power instead of being conducted for our own national interest. We bombed a third party on behalf of a country who has corrupted and controls our country. This is one of the biggest problems with working for our government or being in the military. The risk and we incur is overwhelmingly for Israel, which is absolutely not worth risking your life for.

If Trump wants to get his base excited about bombing runs, use the B2's to flatten cartel superlabs. Use our military to conduct operations that are in our National Interest. I'm not against war at all. Lets go to war for ourselves.

>>63906367
>war
Pest control.

>>63904840
No Jewish state lives on intact after 80 years, we're close.

I'm gonna ask here. Much as when /k/ gets flooded with low effort zigger spam, you know something went wrong for Russia, when /pol/ gets flooded with low effort interracial spam, you know something went wrong for Israel. When something went wrong for Russia I usually check /uhg/ to find out what. I figure since /k/ has a pretty big Eglin-Mossad presence, you guys would know - what happened to Israel to get their shills so riled up? Did Trump dump them or something?

>>63906367
get bombed goat fucker

>>63902796
Go back to plebbut and leftypol, you half-wit, seething dysgenic troon. YWNBAW, You Will Never Have A Uterus; You Will Never Give Birth. Cope, seethe, and dial8 that festering front hole you call a pussy. You failed greasy 50 year old balding obese manchild.

>>63906754
>when /pol/ gets flooded with low effort interracial spam
That's shitskins, poos, chinks, and one obese micro dicked nigger doing the BBC spam. Shitskins and poos are the number one consumers of Blacked, the chinks BBCspam Discord good leaked, and the one obese mirco dicked nigger from /tv/ had his Discord, dox, and micro dick leaked.

>>63907449
>>63907424
Such raw seethe must be studied

>>63906754
>/k/, I demand you explain why my communist turd-world board is full of nigger dicks!
I'm sure you're shocked--shocked!--to find that gambling is going on in there.

>>63906473
>The obvious problem with the strike though is that it was carried out on behalf of a hostile foreign power instead of being conducted for our own national interest. We bombed a third party on behalf of a country who has corrupted and controls our country.
How to define "the national interest" is always up for debate, but there are bigger stakes here than just Israel but reordering the Middle East by cutting Iran down to size, destroying its proxies and nuclear program, and sealing the deal on the Abraham Accords (and you know Trump and MBS talked about taking out Iran's nuke program while he was there), while undercutting Russia and especially China in the region. American foreign policy elites DO see that in American national interests since it's also the thing that will build a regional system that will start to handle itself (while also buying hundreds of billions of dollars in U.S. weapons) so we can shift resources to the Pacific.

Both Trump and Bibi really want this and obviously the role of Israel is central to that, but the idea that the Israel Lobby singularly controls U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East isn't really the case and there are bigger, structural, and strategic interests involving American power involved here. And I'm saying this so you'll better be able to actually understand what is happening, and what's going to happen.

>>63905004
and I seriously doubt they'd turn off their transponders if they thought Iran knew they were coming

>>63906367
it's retarded arabs coming into europe that's the problem in the first place. just send them back and bomb em. Actually just glass the fucking place finally, what's the worst that can happen? The oil fields are fine, we just lose a bunch of retarded goat fuckers that will never contribute anything to mankind ever.

>>63907858
This but nuke Jews too

>>63907862
the jews are our number one ally. Without them it's going to be 10x harder to deal with that shit. they are harmless.

>>63904539
>one b-2 was lost
did anyone try looking for it in the airport it landed safely in?

>>63905004
hell yeah dude, give me another one of these retards >>63899606

>>63906260
It's good for you if you're a gigantic domestic producer of volume bullshit you can export, assuming you can continue to profit off your presumably increasing sales while raw material costs climb.

It's terrible for you if you're literally anyone else making less than a metric fuckton of money per year because your wages are stagnant while the price of milk, bread, and eggs goes through the roof.
You are reading this on an underwater basket weaving forum.
Inflation is bad for you.
>>63907424
Good Lord this is the fatty-fat-fat rabid eye popping rage I've been missing from my life, give me more.

>>63902469 (OP)
It was needed after that embarasing parade.

>>63902469 (OP)
Did the strikes actually penetrate the bunkers?

Even if they did penetrate, did Iran move their nuclear material before the strikes?

These are two questions will determine if the strikes were successful or not. No political dick waiving from either side of the aisle will change that. I don’t think there’s conclusive information being pushed right now anyway

>>63902955
Israel, pakistan, india and best korea have had nukes for ages without anything happening and they're all as crazy as they come. Adding iran to that list would literally do nothing

>>63902681
Under the last year of Biden the gdp growth was 3.1%
In 6 months under trump it is at a whopping -0.8.
Yes negative. Trump and the admin tried to lie about the first 100 days and claimed it was a 0.2 growth but it was an actual -.5 shrink
It's why they are trying to dump trillions into tech and hedge funds then claim the economy is fixed.

Create fake gdp by using federal funds by using the national credit card called the national debt

Watch the magapedes look up the gdp shrink
Hours after arguing the economy was good

Ahhh classic

>>63903077
>anyone that criticizes my orange man is a DNC shill
TDS

>>63902658
>absolute failure
Not true. Leverage was applied and trade partners are negotiating to US favor. NATO partners owning upntonpaying more is a separate, but linked, win. Looking at you next, UN deadbeats!

>>63909720
You are a DNC shill, filled with hate and lies! Probably gorged on sperm, too.

>>63909496
Iran is a terrorist state you dumb mother fucker. The others are not. Why do dumb mother fuckers like you even exist? Why would you have any opinion on foreign affairs at all when you're so fucking stupid?

>>63909779
>Iran is a terrorist state
No it isn't lol, it's just another country like any other

>Least blatant concern troll
+1 to post limit, no contribution