>No canards
>No control surfaces

>>63904313 (OP)
according to chinkshills on this board, yes.

birds are 9th gen

>>63904313 (OP)
>>No control surfaces
Yeah

>>63904313 (OP)
>>No control surfaces

>>63904313 (OP)
Better build quality than modern Russia aircraft.

>>63904491
>birds are 9th gen
nice

>>63904313 (OP)
kill all wehraboos

>>63904313 (OP)
Show me the RCS of it

>>63904734
weeeeeeeeeee

>>63904805
absolutely gorgeous plane, not going to lie.
CAPTCHA: S0X0H
sexo indeed

>>63904313 (OP)
It was "early access" or vaporware

>>63904313 (OP)
6th gen is heavy on computer processing and data links. It has none of that. It does have a better RCS than an F-15 and equal to an F-16.
If you used RCS paint and electric engines it still wouldn't be as stealthy as an F-35.

>>63904313 (OP)
>Was this 6th gen?
>No canards
>No control surfaces

>>63906149
>no thermal emissions

>>63904734
Reminder that Northrop Grumman made one of these in the modern day, covered it in ZEE ZUPER SEKRIT coal dust that was totally going to block the RAF radar then accidentally put wooden struts instead of metal ones inside it and it still had the cross section of a BF-109

>>63904313 (OP)
if they painted it in RAM and used S ducts I wonder how stealthy it could actually be

>>63904313 (OP)
The US was the greatest copycat in the world until the Chinese woke up from their slumber

>>63904313 (OP)
too soon
has no auto pilot to help avoid flat spins and yaw oscillations
cant super cruse
no s ducts on intake
lacks radar

>>63907297
Northrop was designing powered flying wings while the Horten brothers were still playing with scale model gliders.

>>63907297
China 2030never

>>63907297

>>63908210
>>63908220
>Turbo prop toy plane vs jet powered flying wing

>>63908220

>>63908234
thats not what were talking about here

>>63908234
>vroomvrooom

>>63906409
I like that Reimar Horten only remembered he had invented RAM after the USAF publicly announced they had developed stealth technology.

>>63904313 (OP)
>non-S-ducted intakes
>shit engines
>unintentional and marginal RCS reducing geometry
>no avionics (literally nothing)
>zero evidence of the claim of RAM coating, which was only made post-war
>>63907297
Northrop had produced several fully functional powered flying wing prototypes before the Ho 229 was ever envisioned, at a time when the Horten brothers were still making gliders.
The YB-35/49 came closer to actual adoption and use than the Horten, and along with the previous aircraft were the actual developmental ancestors of the B-2.
>>63908234
Being jet powered apparently didn't work so well considering that the first and only flying prototype crashed and killed its pilot, with little work on the project following that. Since Northrop's planes were actually intended for further development and use instead of being a crackpipe dream meant to spare the designer from the Eastern Front, they moved on to jet engines when they became viable.

>>63908220
>>63908236
There were also a few proposed tailless flying wing bombers from Consolidated in 1941-44 but they never got past mockup state.

>>63908294
>The YB-35/49 came closer to actual adoption
The YB-35 wasn't practical or easy to maintain, mechanically was a dead end.
The YB-49 replaced a problem (counter-rotating propellers) for another one (early axial turbojets, mediocre range-payload) and yet it couldn't compete with a normal bomber.

>>63904313 (OP)
I dont care if anyone calls me a wehraboo I think the HO 9 looks cool and I would like to see one IRL

>>63908366
It's a very interesting aircraft, the topic is just plagued by the more delusional "what-if" obsessed wehraboos that always seem to come out of the woodwork whenever the topic comes up.

>>63908234
So, why can't Germany make modern fighter jet engines anymore? Surely as an export economy they'd want to have their own Rolls Royce.

>>63908691
NTA but they have only been a country for the last 35 years and are adverse to rearmament (still are despite very recent pledges to do just so) and an avionics industry, specially a military one requires long term investment and comitment and the Luftwaffe is still beating around the bush about replacing the Panavia Tornado.

>>63908691
Politics.
Siemens makes gas turbines capable of operating at 1700ºC, but they don't make smaller gas turbines.
MTU is involved in multiple supply chains of advanced aeroengines.
They can but they aren't (or weren't) interested. Japan is similar, MHI is far larger and more capable than IHI but they aren't interested in that (and they can't profit without exporting).

>>63908731
>they have only been a country for the last 35 years
A bit more than that but not much more than one hundred.

>>63908788
Unified Germany is way younger, and the unification was a pretty big effort which arguably set germany back again a few years

>>63904626
Pigeon quantum magnetic navigation

>>63907297
Ayykshuyally the jet Horten was made only in 1944. In 1942, they built Ho V which was propeller powered .
Here's the proper picture .

>>63904313 (OP)
Yes.

>>63904491
Birds aren't real.

>>63906149
What's the radar cross section of that bad boy?

>>63910760
Hey, I recognize that pic. It was one of the first ones that I downloaded and posted here on my new laptop last year.
>>63908888
Check em.

>>63908569
This. If they could just discuss the plane rationally, there's a lot to praise about it. It wasn't the first flying wing, but it was innovative and very futuristic for its time. It wasn't a war-winning design by any means, but it had potential as a long-range, high-speed light bomber ala the Mosquito. The design would have suffered from stability issues like all flying wings, but like the YB-35 and YB-49 had it continued development they might have found a workable solution using 1940s technology.
But no. The Wehraboos have to say it was a stealth aircraft and that the B-2 is a copy.