Thread 63907002

why do AK's rarely have mag funnels?
this one is actually airshit, but there a few other huge ass milled aluminium ones for comp, though no actual "tactical" use ones however
why?

No real need. Like ARs sometimes have funnels because the motion of loading is just shoving it into the port. With AKs, your hooking it on the lip of the receiver, then you pull it back until it clicks. In that sense, the front of the magwell is the funnel.

>>63907010
it can still be a bitch under pressure though, theres been times where i've had the mag catch on the sides when not really looking

>>63907002 (OP)
Russian generals/weapon designer dont care if the soldiers get killed, or can reload easy or not. Its about what is cheapest to produce

>>63907037
more countries than russia use/used the AK, look at the fins & jews

>>63907002 (OP)
Because rock and lock mags.

>>63907037
>smug Zelensky buys another Ferrari after he pockets the mag funnel budget, knowing that hes condemning thousands to death but doesn't care.
Or maybe it doesn't actually matter at all.

>>63907103
That takes AR mags.

>>63907129
>that's the joke

>>63907037
Or because it proves a very solid lock

>>63907024
skill issue

>>63907002 (OP)
I used one for a minute, it's fine I mean I don't really notice much of a difference to be honest.

>>63907647
I love you

>>63907647
"There has to be a better way!"

>>63907002 (OP)
Because mag funnels are a competition thing meant to shave off a second or so in a stage with several reloads where each shooter buys their own gun, meanwhile outside of competition in the context of arming a military it's an added step in manufacturing that isn't likely to have any tangible benefit in an appreciable amount of combat situations.

>>63907037
or perhaps because it was developed in a time where reloading with clips was the standard and they didnt really understand our 2025 low speed high drag meta

>>63907849
The AK is piss easy to reload under pressure if you train even a little bit

>>63907955
do it in the dark while walking on uneven terrain you can't see
if you would have said AR, i would have agreed, because even in the dark without looking it's piss easy, but the ak? no no

>>63907805
Even more magwel is detrimental to development of drum mags.
AR-15 magwel and magazines were mistake.

>>63907805
Even more magwel is detrimental to development of drum mags.
AR-15 magwel and magazines were mistake.

>>63907982
>*inserts magazine hig speed low drag way*
>*after taps it for half of a minute to be sure*
>* it falls out anyway*

>>63907982
nigger if you can find an AR magwell in the dark, you can find an AK magwell too. fucking invented problems on this retarded nerd board

Have you niggers never shot an AK? It has rocker magazines you are hooking the lip with and rocking back, not jamming up the well.

>>63907805
Magwel in AR-15 is byproduct of the initial 20 rounders that were supposed to be single use. AR-15 mags are lightweight and kinds fragile. Magwel was supposed to surround magazine and protect it from bumps. Also magazine's locking side notch is much easier to manufacture (compare colt magazine with AK-47 magazine made from multiply parts), remember AR-15 magazine were supposed to be single use!
But then single use was abandoned, straight 20 rounders replaced by curved 30 rounders that somehow are supposed to fit into straight well. And magwel is grandfathered. Huge mess.

>>63908042
The mag well was there for the AR-10 which decidedly did not have disposable cheap mags, its a feature of the AR having a two piece receiver with the trigger being behind and below the magazine.

>>63908018
i dont even shoot ars and it's piss easy, i shoot aks, and it's not that easy without lights and heads up

>>63907002 (OP)
>funnel magazine perfectly into magwell
>still have to hit the perfect angle on the internal edge to rock it back
kek there's no point

>>63907647
Swiss AK technically so point still stands

>>63907993
speaking of
what went wrong with rpk-16?

>>63907103
The SR1 is such a weird firearm, it has the balanced recoil system from the AEK series and the A 545/762, but it's a civilian gun, semi auto only, what's the point?
if you're a russian gun owner, and want to shoot 5,56, why not just get an ADAR?

>>63909252
Nothing with the gun itself, it works just fine, th problem is the 95 round drum mags that have trouble feeding realibly, put a normal 5,45 third rounder or 45 rounder there and you are good to go.

>>63908042
>initial 20 rounders that were supposed to be single use
Explain the indents for the fucking stripper clip guide and the bandoliers having ammo in stripper clips for resupply if the magazines were supposed to be tossed out.

>>63907002 (OP)
Because AK's are old ass pieces of shit designed in the 1940's. These things are contemporaries of the M1 Garand for god's sake.

>>63907048
why is it that every single effort to improve the AK just makes it more similar to the AR?

>>63909328
The SR1 isn't really a domestic gun, its aimed at the euro IPSC market. Hence why most of the user feedback comes from poles and czechs.

>>63911596
Form follows function. Stoner was a genius and the AR's ergonomic proportions are impossible to avoid if you're designing a modern weapon.

>>63911596
Other than the buffer tube to make use of AR stock aftermarket, I don't think it does. Its more like convergence, everyone agrees free floated barrels and rigid receivers are nice, and there's only so many ways to do that.

>>63907024
It's a failure of the design. AKs will always be Russian trash meant for shitskins.

>>63908008
ak does the same lol

>>63911625
>there's only so many ways to do that
Korobov disagreed
>We have such sights to show you

>>63911694
Korobov was an Atlantean scientist from an alternate future in which Atlantis never sank, reincarnated into a Russian's body. We can't take his work as indicative of something in the realm of human understanding or experience.

>>63907010
this regards RK95 enjoyer
>>63907037
also true

>>63911673
If you insert it wrong but that's pretty hard with a regular 7.62 banana
I'm pretty uncoordinated and can make a short 10rd mag jam in the magwell with some regularity but a 30rd mag, rarely