Thread 63914923

Desert Eagle thread. I used to own an IWI one in 357, it was awesome. I regret selling it... I want to buy a new one.
1. are the USA-Kahr made ones better or worse than IWI made?
2. Is it just me, or is there no SKU for 357 stainless? I only see the two brushed chrome SKUs. Does the chrome hold up?
3. Who makes the best shoulder holsters?

post your deagles if you have one. also, the manual lies about having to shoot the right ammo out of it and use a certain stance for proper function. at least for my old 357 one, I couldn't find any ammo it didn't like, and I could shoot it sloppily with one hand & it wouldn't jam either. Maybe the 44/50 ones are more picky?

why would I buy this shit when a round is like $2

>>63914937
that's why you get the 357, the little secret of the deagle world. cheaper to shoot, higher capacity, easier to shoot. Plus you can shoot 38s if you don't care about it not cycling and possibly lead in the gas system lol

… I have a BFR, a Jericho, and a fucking lone eagle.. man I really need to get a deagle…

>>63915369
I found mine for $800 in 2018. Seems the prices for used IWI ones has gone up recently. oh well.

>>63915380
One of these days I’d like to get the three barrel set.. but I have a bunch of other stuff I’d like to get first. I did finally get to shoot a friends deagle in exchange for letting him try the BFR in 500 (indoor range so no bushwacker rounds). It was fun to shoot, weird feel compared to the revolvers I’m used to, but I do think having the experience with other big bore stuff made shooting a deagle less of an “oh my god this thing is huge compared to what I’m used to” experience…

>>63915439
personally I want the dedicated laser that was designed for it

>>63915752
That would be cool

>>63915439
Based handcannon enjoyer.

I would love to have one in 50AE.

>>63914956
>the little secret of the deagle world is to not get a deagle
lmao

>>63917028
Literally designed around .357 Magnum to begin with.

>>63914956
>Plus you can shoot 38s if you don't care about it not cycling and possibly lead in the gas system lol
Wait...if I get a threaded 357 barrel for one, put on a highly restrictive suppressor, and shoot super heavy 38's (or handload 357's) out of it, could I close in on 300blk performance?
IE heavy subs with a suppressor, pull suppressor off and run lighter, high-power supers?

...could I actually even hunt deer in "straight-wall only" states with a suppressed gold tiger stripe deagle, and it'd be legal?

Here's a dumb question for owners of the older MK VII models. Mine runs perfectly with the one magazine that I got for it. Tried ProMag and they don't even go in/out. Tried a new factory one and it inserts fine, but consistently fails to go into battery for the first 4-5 shots. It only reliably cycles the last 3.
Has there been a design change from the MK VII to the MK XIX pattern of magazines? If not, is there a recommended break-in procedure for new magazines? I tried leaving mine loaded for a few weeks and it made no difference.

>>63918587
As long as they don't have a prohibition on using a pistol I guess you could.
Also 44 Magnum is straight walled, so there's that.

>>63918621
>Also 44 Magnum is straight walled, so there's that.
I could run heavy subsonic through a 45 can too I suppose.
That's a super fucking interesting proposition.

>>63918587
You're not going to get close to the external ballistics of 300 BLK or any rifle caliber with pistol bullets like 180- or 200gr .357s, and even if you can push them "fast enough" (~1000 fps) the relative lack of sectional density will be holding you back, plus your local hunting laws might not like handguns in general.
Also, as >>63918621 pointed out, .44 Mag and .50 AE are already straight-walled and have way more ass than you could ever hope to get out of a .38/.357

>>63915439
I'd want to be the size of an 80s action movie star to get away with having one of these. I'd just look ridiculous unless I dressed up like the Joker or something but that could be funny.

>>63918658
>You're not going to get close to the external ballistics of 300 BLK or any rifle caliber with pistol bullets like 180- or 200gr .357s,

https://corbon.com/product/357-mag-200gr-hc
"With a velocity of 1150 fps and 587 foot-pounds of energy (from a 6-inch barrel), this round delivers heavy momentum in a classic magnum platform."

>>63918669
https://underwoodammo.com/357-mag-125gr-full-metal-jacket-flat-nose-hunting-ammo/
Underwood also pops out 125gr FMJ that does 1700 in a 6" barrel, actually pretty close to equivalent weight 300blk in same barrel length lol.

>>63918669
"External ballistics" refers to the flight of the bullet between the muzzle and the target, which is going to suffer from your 200 grain .357 bullet being flat-nosed and flat-based instead of looking like pic related, a 220gr .308 bullet with a ballistic tip and boat tail. Your .357 will have the trajectory of a brick in comparison, bleeding velocity by the yard and getting pushed all over the place by the gentlest breeze.

>>63914923 (OP)
I bought mine in .44 Mag originally in 2008. I got a .50AE barrel for it in 2012, then a .357 Mag and bolt around 2016. I've since gotten a 10" 357 barrel. The original gun is IWI. The additional barrels are US production. All of mine are in "black nitride." I had to do some minor filing with a round jeweler file on the locking lug of the .50 barrel for the barrel latch to fully lock in.

>>63918788
checked and based

>>63918773
Yeah great, who the fuck is going for 200+ yards with a 6" 300blk?
Or shit, even 100+ yards?
I hunt in PA primarily, I can't remember the last time I took a whitetail at more than 100, because our woods are so thick here.
Honestly it's really not an outlandish proposition so long as you're using an optic of some kind to make sure your shot placement is good, because I can't imagine I'd be comfortable that the deagle sight radius going to be enough to be certain and ethical every time.

>>63918963
Okay.
I'm not saying that heavy-for-caliber .357 Mag is inadequate for durr at <100 yards; I'm just clarifying that, depending on your interpretation of >>63918587's nebulous goal of "300blk performance", a .357 load with similar bullet weight and muzzle velocity may not meet those expectations, particularly in terms of its trajectory, which >>63918669 didn't seem to grasp, and its penetration, which is going to be worse—all else being equal—than a similar-weight .308 bullet due to relatively less sectional density.

>>63919007
Okay, that's fair. I really didn't consider how non-specific my original post was.
Frankly I'm just looking for bizarre use cases or reasons to justify purchasing a gold tiger stripe 357 desert eagle, beyond "just because".

>>63919136
"Just because" is the actual reason for owning anything besides a CCW pistol, HD shotgun, durr rahful, and maybe a .22LR backyard varmint exterminator. It's a free country, have fun.

>>63914923 (OP)
I bought my brushed chrome .50AE Deagle about 5 or 6 years ago. I've put about 150rds through it, maybe a little more and the finish is holding up just fine. The only issue I had is with the barrel locking lug area. The barrels are no longer 2 pieces held together with a pin but two pieces held together with a friction fit. This still leaves a small hole under the chamber that Magnum Research fits with a very small set screw.

Well that set screw backed out after awhile and actually jammed the action together with a round in the chamber. In hindsight this is a actually a good thing because firing that round on a empty mag freed it up and I would have almost no chance of doing it by hand without some serious tools and probably doing damage as a result. Anyways, I put some loctite on that set screw and it hasn't backed out since.

Blew through probably $200 worth of rounds in my .44 this past week. Has anyone had trouble with the safety getting knocked loose and engaging in between shots? This is a brand-new problem for me. I deliberately tightened the screw on my safety so that it wouldn't wiggle, but it still is. I'm honestly thinking about just doing something to permanently fix it in place.
>>63914923 (OP)
>manual lies about having to shoot the right ammo
This much isn't a lie, at least with my .44 diggle. Actually, I've found that lighter cowboy action loads run smoother than the Sgt. Thunderfuck's Buffalo Taint Vaporizer rounds. I'm surprised to hear that your .357 didn't have problems, since my understanding was that the entire gas system relies on a shitload of force to cycle rounds.
>>63914937
They work fine, and mine is my (fractious incendiary phrase incoming) dedicated bear handgun.
>inb4 300-post long off-topic argument about (((bears)))
>>63915380
>$800
jesus god, lucky. Cheapest used one I've seen was $1750, and I paid $2500 for my brand-new one.
>>63918788
That wooden grip is fucking sexy

>>63919184
An amazing amount of firearm cope could be avoided if people could just admit sometimes we buy shit we like…

>>63914937
>get it in .357
>reload for it
>get to shoot DEAGLE brand DEAGLE for less than new 9mm
or you could go with one of the cooler calibers and reload for it too.

>>63919365
I even shot some steel case 357, no issue.

No issues with the safety. I did have an issue with shooting it left-handed; my index finger would bump the slide release up

haven't posted this pic in a while. my two big boys.

>>63919136
Well, here's what i can tell you. Some of the hottest commercially available
357 mag is the PPU 158 grain semi jacketed hollow point. It's advertised velocity out of a "ten inch test barrel" is 1600 fps. I can say from experience It's actually that fast. That's right at 900 ftlbs of muzzle energy. Out of a six inch barrel it's right at 1500 fps, for right at 800 ftlbs. bullet drop out of a six inch barrel pistol sighted in for 25 yards is right at one inch at 100 yards. The factory irons on the ten inch Deagle barrel are dead on at 100 yards. I guess the folks at MRI expect you to use the ten inch barrel for hunting or silhouette shooting.

>>63919530
>I guess the folks at MRI expect you to use the ten inch barrel for hunting or silhouette shooting.
Odd, considering how poorly-supported the 10" barrel is by the manufacturer—e.g., despite selling their proprietary cartridge on its velocity, to my knowledge Magnum Research has never made a 10" .429 DE barrel

>>63914923 (OP)
i got an old IWI in .50AE, no regrets
the new ones won't cause you any issues, on the other hand it will be better for you since if a part break you will be able to order a new one and change it.
i wouldn't recommend anything but the .50AE deagle purely because you are stuck with only spicy ammo for the two others, i heard many people saying their gun kept jamming and everytime i look at theirs it's in .44mag and then i have to point them out the issue being the ammo not being hot enough to cycle the slide, at least with the .50AE you'll never have trouble like that and the recoil is not that bad.
But if you know what to use in yours then go for it, the US made won't let you down

>>63919549
Believe it or not, I've seena 10inch
429 barrel in the wild. As far as the ten inch barrels in general, I think they do an annual run of spare barrels every year and when they're gone, you have to wait for next year's run. As far as support, I think what keeps the Deagle alive is it's image. It's kind of a contradiction to me. The Desert Eagle is unique piece of engineering, but what sells it is the Hollywood mystique built up around it. Which is why it's available in all the crazy finishes. I think it also helps that you can get it chambered it bog standard revolver cartridges available at any gun store and don't have to reload or wait for the bi-annual run of Uncle Wildman's Super Special .478 Magnum by Remchester to shoot it. But all the hype, ironically, means what the Desert Eagle is actually good at gets neglected.

>>63919549
I have seen .429 10" barrels.

>>63919579
I can only speak for mine, but it will run less spicy .357 and .44, but only of you don't limp wrist it. If it's tossing empties ten feet over your right shoulder, you're fine. If expended cartridges are bouncing off your forehead, you're limp wristing.

>>63919664
empties on forehead is part of the fun of .357 deagle

>>63919643
>keeps the Deagle alive is it's image
>featured in more movies
>AK47
>1911
>Deagle
Pretty sure it's the Deagle BY FAR.

alright time to get serious about buying another .357. shit, I would get a .50 IWI deag & convert it, but I would worry about finding a .357 barrel that matches that old finish exactly

>>63919579
>>63919664
It's not even a matter of the ammo being "hot enough"—the ammo needs the right pressure curve to make the deagle's gas system work, which basically all .50 AE ammo will by default since 99% of .50 AE guns are Desert Eagles and the ammo is loaded accordingly, whereas most .357 and .44 Mag guns are revolvers or lever/bolt action rifles that don't care what the ammo's internal ballistics look like, they'll cycle the same regardless

>>63919672
How many different headstamps do you have faintly indented into the skin of your forehead?

>>63919549
just checked the website. there are 10" barrels in stock for .44 and .429. Looks like .50AE is sold out and .357 is no longer listed in 10".

>>63919687
I kind of want to find a MkI or MkVII .357 Magnum. The upper is substantially slimmer than a modern MkXIX and it weighs more than a pound less.

>>63919744
aw FUCK I just looked at old pics and I actually owned a VII! why the hell did I sell it. I had an aimpoint mount for it too. Only got $1200 for it.

so are the USA ones bad or no?

>>63919813
That sounds like maybe just his one was fucked up and heat treated incorrectly (bad heat treats can also soften metals). I have not heard of this before.

>>63919694
The bond arms cyclops in 50AE does not care what kind of 50ae you put in it lol

>>63919872
Looks like it would actually be painful to shoot.

>>63919872
"Look at me, I'm the 1%"
t. Bond Arms Cyclops, apparently

>>63919872
If I'm gonna put .50AE in a non-automatic, I'd want something like a Freedom Arms or BFR revolver.

>>63919530
Do you have experience with Magnum Research, I want the 357 but I've seen videos of the gas piston breaking

Wtf is all this pussy ass .357 talk? This only gets fun at ..44 and up. Get a Smith for 357, fuck!

>>63919925
nah

>>63919881
I really wanna try comparing the 50 ae bond arms with the 45-70.. 50 ae is less powder, but set up for a much shorter barrel than your gonna find 45-70 loaded for…. I feel like balistically speaking it would be close..

>>63919906
I wish man. I have freedom arms taste with a ruger budget.

this is a VII? or IXI? my VII did not have the two rail cutouts https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/5015/510/iwimagnum-research-desert-eagle-semiautomatic-pistol-with-case

>>63919936
Well, I can't argue with powerful logic.like that.

>>63919953
This is why I own Rugers.

>>63920115
Blew my budget on brass…. What do you like for a 44 mag load? I ran about 200 240gn swc on 25gns of h110. And some 300 gn sierra jsp’s on 21.1 gn of h110…. Got a box of 50 400 gn gas checked wlfn bullets, but I wouldn’t be able to get more, so I’m probably saving those for 444 marlin

>>63920256
Forgot my pic.

>>63919881
Kentucky Ballistics has video on the Bond Arms.50AE Cyclops.

https://youtu.be/qRf3z4cAwf8?si=1VQslWlZyQnGWyO9

>>63915439
Did you post that fuckhuge revolver in the /k/ollection thread?

Will they make a railless 50 if you ask them? Pic gay

>>63921100
they offer 3/8" dovetail versions of the XIX actually

>>63920945
Yeah. 500 magnum BFR converted to 500 bushwacker.

I guess technically that ended up being close to what a 3 barrel deagle set goes for, but it was spread out, bought the gun, paid for the conversion which was just as expensive. And then got the reloading gear so it’s about .90-1.20$ per round reloaded vs currently TII sells them for about 7$ per round. Luckily it’s not something you’d go out and shoot 200 rounds through in one sitting…. Gotta check and tighten the cylinder pin and grip screws every 3-4 cylinders or they’ll back themselves out…. Pick related is 44 mag, 50AE brass, 500 mag, and 500 bushwacker.

A deagle in 50AE, something in 460 XVR, and either a 10mm Magnum conversion or a 41 magnum are the last of what I consider the “common commercial” big bore calibers… really want to grab those when I get the chance.

>>63921678
How come it’s chambered in 500SW when the cylinder is long enough to accomodate the 500 bushwacker? And if that’s what the conversion changes, isn’t that just a whole new revolver with a new frame and everything?

>5000ft*lb revolver cartridge

Did you buy it for its meme value?

>>63921806
Magnum research doesn’t do the conversion, the entire idea was worked out by a company called TII armory. The BFR revolvers come in an absurd amount of calibers from magnum research and the cylinder was sized long enough to do things like a 45/410 setup, 45/70, 444 marlin, and 30-30. But it still comes in shorter calibers with the same length of cylinder (with the correct barrel for whatever caliber you get it in of course). Since TII converts a revolver you send them I got the 500 magnum version because it wouldn’t need rebarrelled.. on the fun side it’ll still chamber and fire 500 magnum and 500 special (if you can find it) since they’re all the same diameter bullet and the case dimensions are the same for that section…. Works just like a 357 shooting 38 special.


I’d gotten hooked on big bore stuff with my 454 Alaskan, wanted to get a 500 magnum, and the conversion for this was a lot cheaper when I got it done vs now. I got it purely for the fun meme value and because it’s technically the largest handgun cartridge you can shoot.. there are a few oddball guns that have a handgun format and are chambered in stuff like 500 Alaskan or some of the safari rounds, but those are intended to be rifle rounds and they lose a lot in the short barrel.. 500 bushwacker runs medium rifle powder like CFE BLk and gets really good performance out of the 10 inch barrel. For bullets of the same weight it’s only 100-200 fps slower than some of the 500 nitro express rounds when those are getting shot out of a 26 inch safari rifle….

I got it because it looked awesome and I like explosions, and the timing was right.

It’s probably the cheapest way to get into safari rifle performance in something that holds 5 shots..

>>63921856
>It’s probably the cheapest way to get into safari rifle performance in something that holds 5 shots..
Not a .500, but CZ 550 in .375 H&H, back before they deleted 80% of their catalog

>>63923596
>CZ 550 in .375 H&H, back before they deleted 80% of their catalog
Agreed, but thes command a premium now.

>>63921856
Magnum Research came up with .500 Bushwacker, which is a 500 S&W Magnum lengthened to the full length of the long frame BFR cylinder.

>>63921856
Apologies, I didn't read your entire post before I posted.>>63925755

>>63925765
To be fair it’s a wall of text. But I do kinda wonder even though magnum research didn’t come up with the 500 bushwacker round itself… between the 50ae deagle and the BFR in 45-70 or other rifle calibers… what exactly is in the water at magnum research?

>>63921856
How is the recoil? Do the gun’s weight and massive brake tame it at all? Shooterscalculator’s recoil calc produces picrel. I estimated charge weight.

Reading about it just now, I learned that padded shooting gloves are recommended, kek.

>>63919813
No.

>>63925920
I think the company philosophy is "how bog and fast can we make a handgun bullet go? You just know if the NFA is ever properly repealed they'll come out with something like a solid frame Bland-Pryse .577 Boxer.

>>63926239
With any of the 400 gn or lighter rounds it really isn’t too bad in my opinion, the brake does an amazing amount of work.. it’s a night and day difference comparing it to how it shot with 500 mag before I converted it. This video was my attempt at a side by side comparison, both shots are a 600 gn +p 500 magnum round in slow motion, you can really get a feel for how much the brake tames it down. For 500 bushwacker even though it’s got more force than 500 mag, it’s got a lot more gas for the brake to affect.. however as you get into heavier bullets the brake is less effective.

I don’t use gloves, but I’m also pretty used to the shock from big bore stuff, if your not then they’ll help with some of the sting..

>>63926239
Your way under for charge weight btw. To give the TII guys credit, they’ll sell you the dies and send you their load data with it.. it’s a LOT powder…. I use GRT for reloading which calculates recoil impulse, but I’m not savvy enough to figure out how to accurately enter the brake into it… so it’s not very accurate with the real world feel.

>>63927206
Hah. I extrapolated from the case capacity of a 500SW and got ~110gr and was like “nah, there’s no way, that’s stupid” but desu yeah it’s basically a 338 lapua in 50 cal.

>>63927193
>”recoil is not bad”
>*Gun rotates 90 degrees*

You have any videos shooting the 500 bushwacker?

>>63914923 (OP)
Haters don't want you to know this, but a Ruger Blackhawk convertible comes in either 9mm/38/357 or .40/10mm. I personally love mine and shoot 9 out of it most of the time, but it's great to have the 357 cylinder for when I want a pissing hot load

It have one in .44 and CC it daily

>>63927694
Only 3 shots and of course the first went low and only zipped through 2 jugs.. but it was fun.

>>63927694
Fwiw without the brake even the TII guys say that the BFR is the worst of the 500 mag guns for recoil.

In 500 bushwacker with the brake it’s not to bad.


In the deagles, how much of a difference does the compensator cut barrels make?

>>63929413
Not a great indoor range gun with the brake

>>63926783
I want a desert eagle in 454 casull…. Or I want to win the lottery and get a mateba…

>>63918621
>If not, is there a recommended break-in procedure for new magazines?

Yeah the same as for every other sticky by mag, take it apart and de-burr the follower or just load and unload, or just use a dowel to work it up and down. I had the same issue with a couple .44mag magazines I had, its just shitty plastic overflash impeding travel. Promag sucks btw mine won’t even feed properly no matter how much tweaking you do.

>>63919245
Good to know that can actually happen, that’s pretty wild.

>>63919910
I was paranoid and bought an additional gas piston that lives in the ammo case for the day this would happen and it still hasn’t in a like 2,500 rounds of mostly .357 mag, it’s pitted and worn but still going strong.

>>63929437
Quite a bit, makes .357 mag feel like 9mm but it also peels the jacket off rounds like an apple peel and sprays them out of the vents, so shoot outside. Also depending on if there’s a structure overhead, may make your ears hurt a bit if the sound is reflected back down at you, even through muffs and plugs. It’s fine outside though.

>>63929457
>POV: you're a normie gun owner and I show up with my 16" FAL in the next bay

>>63929413
How weird. the bushwacker’s recoil seems tamer than the 500 magnum’s.

>>63929546
Unless it has an aggressive muzzle brake .308 indoors isn’t so bad I used to take mine all the before the indoor range closed and I moved.

>>63929771
That brake does a lot of work, also that’s one of the lighter 310 gn bushwacker rounds, vs 600 gn 500 mag rounds in the other clip.

does any anon know if it is possible to fit a picatinny rail cover over the Mark XIX models and beyond that have the rails? Has anyone tried and does it not look cringe

>>63930715
>fit a picatinny rail cover over the Mark XIX models and beyond that have the rails?
did you just have a stroke anon

>>63930715
If they slide on they'd only go on the bottom. The front sight blocks sliding stuff on to the rails

>>63926783
I kinda want to mix 85% of magnum researches development team, with 15% of Kel-Tec’s…. So you get “it’s gotta be an actual metal gun” mixed with something like the cocain fueled “let’s make a stripper clip fed handgun that shoots 30-06”

>>63919744
they made ultra light 357's

>>63931591
I remember reading about those. They used aluminum for the frame. Using the .44/.41 upper was not recommended.

>>63927978
There is also the .45 convertible Blackhawk that comes with a .45acp cylinder and a .45 Colt cylinder.

>>63929497
The problem with.454 in a Deagle is that it's too long to fit in the existing mag well.

>>63919910
The main wear part I've trouble with is the little rubber extractor spring. I've had one of these little bastards disintegrate on me after a thousand or so .44 and
50 rounds through it. Luckily I had the
357 bolt and cannibalized the spring out of it and kept shooting after swapping it out. I keep s spare in the case now.

>>63928020
What ammo do you feed it?

Anyone seen a 14 inch barrel IRL?

Also how come so few people have tried to make Deagle carbines, it feels like an obvious choice

>>63934814
I've seen a 14" .44 Mag MkVII. The slide had the .44/.41 Magnum Mark.

Quick and dirty Desert Eagle spotting guide. Doing this from memory, bear with me.
>.357 production prototype circa 1984
These are a 1000 unit production test run to tweak the design before mass production. Smallest or the Deagles. visually the same as later models, but 98% of final production size. Will not accept later caliber conversion kits or barrels. Spotting features, barrel has convention land and groove rifling, serial number is between 3000 and 3999.
>MkI production version, circa 1985.
The frame (lower) will type is finalized and will remain basically the same through subsequent models until the introduction of five inch models on the 2010s. initial version are in .357 Magnum. .44 Magnum version using a slightly larger slide and barrel combo introduced. Spotting features, caliber is on the slide, slide catch is single step, safety levers are "teardrop" style. trigger is non adjustable single stage.
>MkVII introduced circa 1987
.41 Magnum introduced using the same slide and barrel blanks as .44 Magnum. Slide now reads .41/.44 Magnum for .4X caliber guns. .50AE version introduced in 1989. The MkVII .50AE is mechanically identical to the later MkXIX except the MkVII .50AE guns have .50 on the slide instead of the barrel. MkVII spotting features, "hook" shaped safety levers, three step slide release lever, fully adjustable two stage trigger.
>MkXIX circa 1995
All calibers now use .50AE size slide and barrels. .41 Magnum dropped as a caliber. Caliber number (.357, .44, .50AE) moved to barrel gas block. Production moved to Sako Arms during IMI reorganization until 1999. New caliber, .440 Cor Bon, a .50AE case necked down to .44 introduced. Ammo quality control issues lead to .440 barrel production being cancelled with just a thousand or so guns out the door. Production returns to Israel under reorganized IWI and remains in Israel until production is moved to MRIs Pillager, MN plant.

>>63936776
If the bill passes with taxes removed from SBRs, I may try something like this.

>>63914956
I bet the 357 and 44 feel much better in terms of felt recoil.

>>63920445
It's too bad this guy thinks acting like a silly faggot is funny entertainment.

>>63936857
>stuff that has happened since 2008
The majority of production is now in the US. The "light" five inch barrel L5 Desert Eagle was introduced as well as the full size L6 "lightweight." A second shot at a necked down .50AE has also been introduced, .429DE. I'm sure there's more, but those are the high points.

>>63936885
I think it's a reaction to nearly dying. An exploding.50BMG rifle nearly took him out.

>>63936879
personally the weirdest thing about shooting the .357 MKXIX is recoil with standard .357 Magnum loads, like Federal American Eagle, is rearwards momentum of the slide is mild enough that the mass of the slide going back into battery can pull the gun down and forward.

>>63914937
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1110901816
Skill issue

>>63936879
I have the larger frame 50AE with a 10" 44 mag barrel, the 44 feels like you're shooting 45ACP. Hard to describe, slow recoil with a lot of weight out front so it's very soft but you can tell you're shooting something big-bore.

The 6" 50AE barrel is how I normally keep the gun but I the 10" 44 barrel with it whenever I go to the range. Lots of people don't know that the DE has multiple calibers that can be swapped so it's fun because usually they want to shoot a "real 50 AE" for the first time and after they shoot it, I'll do a caliber change in front of them. I think it really makes the average range-goers day.

>>63914923 (OP)
>Want the classy no-rails shiny chrome (?) look
>But also want it in .50
What model should I wind up getting? Should I just get a .44 instead? To be fair, it’d probably just sit on my computer desk as an alternative HD gun, but still.

>>63914937
>Laughs in .440 Cor-Bon

>>63919365
Imma bust your crust, buster.

>>63939984
they make a 3/8 dovetail version in chrome for 44. it's the cali model

>>63936905
Nah, he acted like that before. I chalk it up to being fat as a kid and using humor as a defense. He has Chris Farley vibes.

>>63940035
Can a .44 model be barrel swapped to .50, or is it only the other way?

>>63940050
the barrel has the rail so you'd still be SOL unless you find a dovetail .50 barrel for XIX

>>63919530
Neat, I've been shooting exclusively that out of my Chiappa 60DS and it does have quite the nice fireball. You just reminded me to order more ammo now.

I might try the flat point jacketed they offer as well, anybody have experience with it?

>>63939996
stay the fuck away from my crust, Crust Buster i'll fucking fuck you up don't ruin my fucking thanksgiving again

How do I clone this specfic spec of deagle?

I've been so on the fence of either a 357 deagle or try and hold out for a Grizzly LAR in 357 or 44

>>63918587
Some guy did this with one of the 10" barrels on a Mk7.
Smith cut the barrel for an MP5-SD suppressor.
Picrelated: without the can.

>>63940592
did you forget a pic

>>63918587
>>63940594
And with the can.

>>63940594
does .38 stay subsonic for that barrel length?

>>63940592
Forgot pic

>>63940608
Pretty sure it should, most 38 doesn't crack the barrier through my 16" Rossi lever gun.
Maybe ultralight FMJ or defensive stuff would, not sure.

>>63940609
just get a black .357 barrel, stainless rail'd frame, and a TLR w/ laser?

>>63940050
.44 Magnum, .429 Desert Eagle and .50 Action Express all use the same bolt. swapping calibers between those three is a barrel swap that takes just a few seconds and a mag change. Going from .44/.50 to .357 also involves field stripping the slide to change the bolt.

>>63940609
You could get the L5 shorty (left) with a stainless upper.

>>63940851
meant (right). I've had too much beer.

>>63919530
Defense Line or Blue Box?

alright fuck it I have a job, I can afford a deag. $2,309.99 down the drain

there was apparently a 25ACP conversion kit? what?

>>63940534
Watch out anon, Crust Buster ruined my Thanksgiving once! He really means it!

>>63942577
if Crust Buster tries to bust my crust, I'm gonna crust his bust (ejaculate on his chest and leave it there until it dries out and gets crusty)

>>63940851
You don’t want the L5, it breaks pistons all the time.

>>63940087
Surprisingly works well in the Desert Eagle, PPU flat point.

>>63941417
Blue Box.

>>63932530
they were a different size entirely
but they fuck ugly pic rail all over it

>>63943552
>You don’t want the L5, it breaks pistons all the time.
Good to know. The legislation making the tax on Short Barreled Rifles, Short Barrel Shotguns and Suppressors $0 passed and has been signed. I'm going to look into what the new rules are and think about building a dedicated Deagle Carbine. pic realated is apparently a prototype of a carbine model.

>>63944541
starting point might be finding a MkI with a 14" barrel.

>>63941572
For the Desert Eagle? Not that I know of. available calibers/ conversions that i know of over the years
>.357 Magnum (current production)
>.41 Magnum (out of production)
>.44 Magnum (current production)
>.429 Desert Eagle (current production)
>.440 Cor Bon (out of production)
>.50 Action Express (current production)

>>63944625
this dude claims to be selling 25acp mags for the deagle is why I'm confused https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1113198656

>>63944653
I've never heard of a .25acp conversion for the Desert Eagle. those look way to thin to work in a Deagle mag well.

>>63945361
yeah I assume he's misremembering what they're for

half of the deagle community is people with classy guns who shoot at 100 yards one-handed, and the other half is this shit. kinda funny

hol' up Kahr owns Magnum Research, but Kahr is owned by the son of the OG Moonie. If I buy a new deag am I supporting the Moonies?

oof

>>63918621
My mags are 90's and the extras I bought are oe from 2005ish.
All fine. Only time I ever had a jjjam was with light loaded ammo

I really like the idea of owning a Deagle but 2300 bucks for one that looks nice plus it can't run .38 unless you do a bunch of mad science gunsmithing to it plus it may be finnicky with some .357 magnum loads too sobers me up, I'll just buy another 4-6 speed loaders for my Python and call it a day. I wish there was a current production autoloading magnum that comes with a conversion kit to run special in its caliber, especially if its in .357 as that's my dream gun. I love reloading, so I guess if I still don't see anyone revive the concept I may just eventually get a Deagle and just buy some more .357 shell casings, but I really wish I had more than just my revolver and levergun to play with my current .38 loads.

>>63945640
>the other half is this shit
The first thing that comes to mind is "gross".

>>63944541
Oh, word? They're detaxing shortyguns too? Looking forward to seeing people put pistolgrips and folding stocks on Shockwaves next year when it comes into effect.
I'll want all that stuff off the registry as a whole, but now that they aren't even taxed, they could maybe be challenged.

>>63944549
Those would be such a cool SBR candidate. Especially not having to pay tax on one.

>>63946975
Yeah, the 'gold' ones look tacky, especially the tiger stripe one.
They did do a stainless tiger stripe too at some point, which I thought looked more alright.

>>63947018
>They did do a stainless tiger stripe too at some point, which I thought looked more alright.
Seen the gold, Tony Montana tier. The stainless TS was more subdued. But the green is pretty tacky, I say that knowing it appeals to some.people.

>>63947246
Imagine a stainless in tigerstripe but its two tones of polish. That would be classy.

>>63946952
Who said it can’t run .38? And I can point to several different anons in this thread alone, including myself that have said .357mag is the most reliable? Did you even read the thread or just come to your own conclusions to talk yourself out of a gun?

>>63943552
>>63936914
>>63929533
>>63919664

I mean all these posts talking about how reliable and how everyone can shoot whatever .357 through it and that’s what you gleaned?

>>63914923 (OP)
I love mine. Got the black tiger stripe .50 for 2500 of gunstroker when I was drunk. The IWI stainless frame for 1000 under similar circumstances. The stainless one is sick because it is the same one from Snatch. They just machined and remarked it .50 for the movie prop. I thought it was just the blueing being faded until I realized it was stainless. I shoot the .44 stainless one more obviously. Can make hits at 100 yards pretty easily. The .50 one I shoot less but it is always a good time. Except when the brass smacks you in the forehead 20% of the time.

>>63946790
I bought four .357 Mags when i got my .357 barrel and bolt a few years ago. officially they hold nine, but all four of mine will hold ten with no give. That is, you can't load 10+1, you have to load 9+1, but when reloading with the slide locked back, you can pull ten rounds in the magazine and it will feed when you close the action.

>>63947018
Everything except machine guns snd destructive devices apparently got detaxed.

>>63947734
>They just machined and remarked it .50 for the movie prop.
That's pretty neat. I remember thinking "that's a .44 MkVII" when I saw Snatch. they had .44 MkVIIs stand in for .50s in Boondock Saints as well.
>Except when the brass smacks you in the forehead 20% of the time.
That's just you getting tired and losing the ability to control recoil. If I decide to shoot .50AE, that's what I do that day. I've learned if I'm rested i have three, maybe four mags of .50AE before I'm basically done.

>>63947734
>>63948153
>They just machined and remarked it .50 for the movie prop
Considering the law says a gun must have caliber marked on it, what's the legality of this? Do they take it as seriously as a serial number, or does it not matter for private property and sales, and it's just a standard manufacturers need to adhere to?

Not that I'll tattle.

>>63948177
I'm thinking it's only something the manufacturer has to worry about. the big no-no is removing or altering the serial number.

I saw a used 44 for like $750 at a Scheels but I didn't have the money. Picked one up for sale on bass pro a couple weeks ago. I could only shoot it a few times before my fucked up arms gave up but it was hella fun mag dumping 44

>>63948228
>used 44 for like $750
something must've been wrong with it, no way a good Deagle is going to cost that much used or otherwise.

>>63948800
I've seen it once or twice. Some people may just be ignorant of its value.

>>63948800
The Desert Eagles you see for under $1000 are usually earlier MkI and MkVII models. They use smaller caliber specific slides and aren't considered as desirable as the MKXIX.

>>63940534
>>63942577
>>63943523
All your crust are bust by us.

>>63949988
CRUST BUSTER!!!!

Here is my 50 in size comparison with other things
Also just ordered a Mark 23 for the typical comparison pictures

>>63914923 (OP)
>>63914956
>that's why you get the 357
Isn't the main point of a Deagle to look cool and flex BIG BOOLET? Why compromise to make it practical (well maybe Shaq could CC it)? Getting it in anything but .50 AE would be like buying a Lambo and being like "I try to keep it under 70, gas mileage gets real bad above that." Or maybe getting the engine replaced with something with better mileage, I'm bad at analogies. But yeah, that seems like it's missing the point.

>>63928020
Shaq?

>>63951181
Swapping calibers in the Deagle is easy if you have the barrels. I got the the .357 Mag barrels to plink with relatively inexpensive ammo after i already had the .44 and .50 barrels. And while it's certainly not a daily carry gun, I have carried mine out in a pancake holster.

>>63951160
Holy shit. A MkVII .50AE. Sweet.

>>63951272
I never really understood how to tell the models apart
What makes mine a MKVII?

>>63951314
If I'm seeing it right, the caliber, .50AE, is marked on the slide and not the barrel. For the MkI and MkVII series, each caliber had its own slide and barrel. To change caliber, you had to swap the entire upper. The MkXIX is basically the MkVII . 50AE upper used for all calibers. Aside from the markings on the slide, there's no mechanical difference between your .50AE MkVII and a MKXIX. You could get a current production .44 Magnum barrel and magazine for it and it would work.

>>63951314
if it has a ribbed slide release, MkVII. if it has rails, XIX. If it has the two dovetail slots, .50 VII.

where are we with the holster situation?

>>63954996
I found a few examples of shoulder holsters online of dubious quality. idk

>>63954996
Cowbow style,.dual rig hip carry would be max gunslinger. Just don't fall.in the lake, because you will go straight down with those boat anchors!