Is the AR-15 and AR-15 platform rifles really the divine gift from gun god that AR guys act like it is. It almost feels like a new generation of fudds, "all I'll ever need is muh AR and muh Glock, theirs no gun better and their never will be." I understand that their good but I feel like we should be over them by now.

It just works

>>63919405 (OP)
Honestly, my question is what counts as an AR-15 at this point. Does being piston discount it? Especially long stroke. There's also enough 3rd part ways to pimp it out that hardly any o the original remains.

>>63919405 (OP)
>glock
>ar
it just fuckin works, cunt. take your nigger47s and $3000 custom 1911s back to the gunsafe, adults prefer function over form.

>>63919405 (OP)
Nah, but it is really good, more important its really good while being extremely ubiquitous. that has a massive value of its own.

>>63919405 (OP)
>a new generation of fudds
I told them Sun Tsu said, "The longer you hate your enemy, the more you become like them,", but did they listen? No. NOW they are the FUDs, HOWZAT FOR INRONICALLY INRONICAL? I am laughing in BOOMER NOW! HAHAHAHHAHHAAHHA!

>>63919447
PoV: you are a new-and-improved leather jacket skin, porkchop pectorals, baby-back ribcage, orange lung tissue meat target and high-speed fleece bulletstop.

>>63919447
>adults prefer function over form.
>waaaah, waaah!
>no tactical advantage!
>reeee!
Faggot based fag.

It has a superfluous buffer tube system, a design choice unnecessarily borrowed from the AR-10, which makes folding stocks awkward. Additionally, the gas system is less suitable for suppression than a piston system.
5.56 is a meme chambering for recreational shooting. It doesn't suppress well and it isn't "fun" when shooting steel like 45 ACP is.

Other than that, they're fine.

>>63919405 (OP)
This seems nice, except for the cheese grater foreskin.

>>63919405 (OP)
It's a highly accessible platform with cheap and high quality offers, sometimes both, thanks to the wide range of companies manufacturing them. Design is proven in many conflicts. I say it's a very good entry level at minimum and far more cost efficient than most others.

>>63919462
>less suitable for suppression
>doesn't suppress well

This was arguably true 30 years ago, but things have improved since then. If you're actually speaking based on your own observations and not some bullshit that you read on Reddit, it's my regretful duty to inform you that your can is a piece of outdated trash and/or your AR is configured improperly.
>you probably don't actually own a gun, but someone here that does may learn something

This has been talked about to death, but here goes.

It's not that there aren't better firearms, but it has so much aftermarket support that it's endlessly customizable to fit the user, and very easily at that. You don't need to be a gunsmith or have specialized tools, so it's accessible to even the most retarded people. And it can fit nearly any budget. You can even make it a project gun and do incremental upgrades on a cheapo until you've gone full Ship of Theseus and have parts from 10 different brands in it. The ergonomics and control layout are also still so good that other guns copy them as best they can for comfort and familiarity.

Their appeal is broad and includes damn near every type of shooter, parts are common and as cheap or expensive as you want to invest in, mags and ammo are relatively inexpensive, it's able to accomplish probably 80% of shooters' goals on its own, and it's fairly lightweight for a rifle.

All that said, I like short-stroke piston 5.56s like the HK416 and Sikh Saar MCX more, but that's my opinion, and I have to accept that it's more expensive and harder to get the more specialized parts if something breaks

>>63919462
thats one of the major, if not primary flaw of AR's is the stupid buffer tube, it's supposed to be the military's ultimate do everything gun/cartridge but its got a huge unmovable tube, and with shorter barrels it has massive fireballs, it just seems like a horrible cqc weapon.

>>63919503
>>63919509
No, b3cause PSA is trash.

>>63919511
>primary flaw
More like primary feature. I've seen guys shoot them of thier chins!

>>63919462
Folding stocks are a meme and only good for storage.

>>63919405 (OP)
People love then because they are gun legos. Any caliber, any style, folding stock, collapsible stock, fixed stock, carry handle, flat rail, FSP, folding FSP, or no FSP with a low-pro gas block, etc.

You can build one at home for under $1,000 usd, and the parts are more than plentiful, or you can spend $10k on a GWOT clone.

AK's, and all other semi-auto rifles are awesome, but none of them compare to the AR15 aftermarket selection. Look at any gun parts website. You'll find a decent handful of AK parts, but thousands of options for an AR. On top of all that, they are reliable, accurate, and the base ammo (223/556) is extremely plentiful.

>>63919511
The tube is fine because it allows for a shorter receiver than folding stock guns, which results in the overall dimensions of the gun being only slightly bigger when collapsed and even comes with the benefit of a lightweight and rock solid stock out of the box, which is rarely the case for the folders.

The main reason for popularity of piston conversions is that they run cooler and cleaner with a suppressor.

>>63919602
It's a gun Lego for the cost of a stock rifle of other model. Of course it'll be popular with poorfags and kitted out competition shooters alike.

>>63919581
Unless you're The A-Team and your "workspace" is a bitchin' van.

>>63919405 (OP)
It would take something absolutely innovative to fully replace. I'm talking bullpup electronic ignition system with telescoped/caseless ammo that takes P90 style high capacity mags and pisses flaming hot loads while still offering similar customizability and computerized aiming modules or autocorrecting smart rounds. As it is the AR15 and Glock are just the peak of good enough and no one wants to invest in a radical shift away from that when we have something that already does just about everything. Maybe if we get into an actual peer to peer war between superpowers or aliens we can see some semblance of actual arms race, but even then the trend is going to be shifting away from small arms and more towards drones and electronic warfare. Best case scenario for evolution we go into space ship wars or Alien invasion or both.

>>63919447
>glock
>ak
ftfy

>>63919409
>bzzz
Now it don't

>>63919581
>only good for storage
You mean that thing that you do with your gun for the 99% of time when you aren't shooting it or actively walking/hunting with it?

>>63919405 (OP)
Name a better plinking device. You can't.

Its the budget option for poors

>>63919405 (OP)
Dafault rife, poor man's rifle, small man's rifle.
Ol' Reliable.

>>63919869
id rip that little faggot out of there with my painters tool so fast its not even funny

>>63919974
kek

>>63919405 (OP)
They are great because they are lightweight. If anything the defining feature of the AR-15 design is that it can weigh 6.2 oz naked without a mag and still be durable enough for military use. Comparable designs all weigh about 16 oz more for the same or worse capability.

>>63919405 (OP)
A $300 PSA blem carbine will out perform basically every unobtanium yuro milsurp rifle, AK, modern bullpup or any other meme rifle in an intermediate caliber

It's that simple. They're basically perfect for most things where you'd need to shoot a human (in defense of for a job) and many game animals as well

If 5.56 isn't your thing they now have them in many other useful calibers and now days even 9mm ARs are becoming popular, available and decent

Hipsters hate this but the AR15 is here to stay

>>63919405 (OP)
My main rifle was Chinese SKS until I recently bought M&P 15 Sport II, I must say it's my new favorite rifle for shooting, home defense, and SHTF rifle. The 5.56/.223 ammo is much more cheaper than 7.62x39 nowadays, the amount of AR15 parts/accessories you can buy is staggering. No longer will I fear running out of spare parts unlike my SKS rifle which I still own.

>Is the AR-15 and AR-15 platform rifles really the divine gift from gun god that AR guys act like it is
Not sure if its divine, however I do have more options for the AR15, if my barrel is worn out, I can just buy complete new upper to replace it or get new parts to replace old components in lower receiver.