The youtuber Benelli shill (with a vendetta against Turkey) bothered me with his plain dismissal of ("gamer") shotgun speed loaders, so I bought one as part of my home defense setup.
How the fuck do you use these? I can't even get them into the tube reliably. They made it look so simple in the demo videos...

Muck ya fuddah

>>63931425 (OP)
please tell me the scenario you envision where you need 10 (or whatever it is) rounds of 00 buck to solve an HD event and then tell me why you are using a shotgun and not an AR

>>63931425 (OP)
I’m not answering a turkshit shill.

>>63931425 (OP)
>low brass for home defense
>question that should be in /qtddtot/
>enjoys turkroach shotguns unironically
this is horrible

>>63931425 (OP)
fuck ya
mudda

>>63931595
Not the turk anon but brass height has no effect on modern shotgun pressures. High brass is mostly used as a way to visually distinguish types, but higher pressure ammo can still be loaded in low brass ammo.

>>63931425 (OP)
>How do I-
You don't need to leave youtube to figure this one out
You're a big boy, anon
You can do it

>>63931589
I dunno. The same one where a shotgun card would be used? This is just supposed to be faster.
And shotguns fire either .73 bullets or a bunch of .33s together. You get more fuckery per trigger pull/magdump, shells are easier to manage than rifle mags, and custom loads are fun in the meantime.
>>63931594
>>63931595
>shotgun can't cycle with trap rounds
>worst thing ever
Please.
>>63931614
No matter how many times I watch the demo, I can't recreate whatever hand motion is allowing him to cleanly jam that thing up through there so smoothly.
I would never trust this thing to save me in an emergency.

>>63931628
>I dunno. The same one where a shotgun card would be used? This is just supposed to be faster.
>And shotguns fire either .73 bullets or a bunch of .33s together. You get more fuckery per trigger pull/magdump, shells are easier to manage than rifle mags, and custom loads are fun in the meantime.
I just don't think you should use a shotgun if you are imagining a scenario where you need to reload. most HD shootings are solved with 0 to 2 rounds, especially from a shotgun. if you think there is a riot of peace outside or a lynch mob wants you dead I'd grab the AR

>>63931638
>I just don't think you should use a shotgun if you are imagining a scenario where you need to reload.
Yeah, I suppose the HD thing was pretty dumb. Just any reasonably-intimate and poorly-defined skirmish, then.
I guess it's really just a tool for gang warfare.
>if you think there is a riot of peace outside or a lynch mob wants you dead I'd grab the AR
In the case of a lynch mob, wouldn't they be at the perfect distance for a shotgun to be used? And that's a scenario in which magazine logistics could actually cause problems for ARs.

>>63931656
kyle used an AR on a lynch mob just fine

>>63931665
Only one guy there was really going for him. The others just mistook him for a shooter aiming for their event.

>>63931589
>tell me the scenario you envision where you need 10 (or whatever it is) rounds of 00 buck
To fight off the SAT.
>then tell me why you are using a shotgun and not an AR
To style on the SAT.

>>63931787
like the test you take to send to colleges?

>>63931656
>And that's a scenario in which magazine logistics could actually cause problems for ARs.
Magazine logistics?

>>63931425 (OP)
>Turkshit enjoyer
>Is retarded
Checks out

>>63931859
You're talking to a noguns and probably underage as well

>>63931842
>like the test you take to send to colleges?
Kinda like that yeah.

>>63931589
>tell me why you are using a shotgun and not an AR
I want to take down the invaders not my neighbors obviously

>>63931425 (OP)
I'd say your missing a piece and that's why it doesn't work but you stole a stock photo from Google. Just starting shit to start shit.

>>63931628
>I would never trust this thing to save me in an emergency.
So are you now the Benelli shill?

>>63931859
No clue what I was referring to. Makes less sense the more I think about it.
>>63932325
I have mine in my drawer. Uploading a stock photo was faster. You load the shells in just ahead of a small gap. The entryway's gap is perfectly thumb-width, and the two prongs at the top almost perfectly align with a shotgun's loading port, though it only ever seems to work if you push your way to the tube using the side of the top opening.
>>63932382
No, because I don't tell everyone to overspend for the sake of brand name.

>>63931628
>shells are easier to manage than rifle mags
What's this thread about, again?

>>63932864
Har-har. Good luck loading your rifle without a mag. The speedloader is an optional accessory. If you get even one good use out of it, it's perfectly fine. The second it presents even mild inconvenience, you just stop using it and life goes on as normal.

>>63932157
anything that meets the FBIs penetration guidelines is going to go through the wall of your home

>>63932612
I wouldn't buy turkshit. anything made in yurope is ass

>>63932953
And you wanted this optional accessory, why?
Because it makes shells almost as easy to manage as rifle mags, in theory.

>>63933429
Even 20 gauge bird shot?

>>63931589
>please tell me the scenario you envision where you need 10 (or whatever it is) rounds of 00 buck to solve an HD event
It was dark in them jungles, I was only 19 and you could hear them screaming in the dark. We could smell them and we wore barbed wire hats decorated with pictures of osama bin laden and saddam. USA USA USA.

>I'm an American who can't shoot and does not realize that shotguns point shoot better than ARs at 50 yards and less because that's what they are for.

>>63935760
birdshot won't reach the penetration guidelines
>>63935809
ARs are easier to shoot within 50 yards due to the lack of recoil compared to a shotgun shooting defensive loads

>>63935357
It makes them easier to manage than rifle mags.
Again, with shotguns, you just need to have the ammo with you. If you drop this in the middle of nowhere, it's no skin off your back. Your magazine is still there, underneath the barrel. You cannot use a typical rifle without bringing at least one box magazine with you. Shotguns don't have a failure condition like this unless your gun breaks or you run totally out of ammo.

>>63935887
If you're really worried about that "failure condition", you could just get a Cali-compliant lower with non-detachable mag. But nobody would do that because it's silly. You might as well argue that shotguns are riskier because if you dent the mag tube you can't just instantly pop on one of the dozen pre-loaded spares you have on your person like you would for an AR.

>>63931589
>muh AR bro gotta be an AR have you heard of the AR bro you should use an AR

>>63935915
If part of my gun breaks, obviously, I need to sort that out before attempting to use it.
Cali mags may be worse than just reloading an AR-15 by hand.

Okay, I've worked out the "trick" to it.
It's not just using the left hand like in the creator's video: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKNHfcc6RlE).
That doesn't really factor in.
You angle the thing against both the rear of the loading port and the front of the trigger guard, use your index or middle finger to keep the shell from popping out, then push.
I'm becoming more consistent with it. when it works, it really is fast. Much faster than doing 3 by hand, but still not faster than popping just 1 in.
Gonna see if I can't reach that point with it.
(I feel so genteel with this.)

>>63936505
Scratch that
Ring finger keeps the shells aligned, and you just push the syringe into the midsection. Keeps it clean. Might even be able to catch the thing before it falls.

>>63936580
Done. Card doesn't even get in the way anymore.

>>63935887
>You cannot use a typical rifle without bringing at least one box magazine with you. Shotguns don't have a failure condition like this unless your gun breaks or you run totally out of ammo.
That's like saying "you can't use a shotgun without bringing at least one shell with you. It's nonsensical.

My home defense gun is an AUG. It sits in a rack with one magazine loaded and a second jungle-taped to the first. The magazine is always there.
It's not like the magazine is suddenly going to drop free, that's not something that happens.

>>63935942
>comparing a military rifle to a hunting shotgun
for like any normal home invasion a shotgun would be fine

>>63936779
>That's like saying "you can't use a shotgun without bringing at least one shell with you. It's nonsensical.
No, and I shouldn't need to say (on /k/ of all boards) what separates ammunition from magazines.